When I started collecting I used existing German force that I used in bolt action, and just added special units like Totenkorps, nachtjager, nachtalben, shreckwhulfen, I didn't really bother with a mech until later on but obviously if you were starting from scratch a starter box is the best option 👍
Yes, I should have pointed out that if you already have a Bolt Action force, it is terribly easy to get playing Konflikt '47 with just a small handful of purchases. Nachtalben are a really interesting unit. One of only three or four Elite units in the game (the others being the US Paragons, IIRC).
Hmmm, not a bad idea there. I've been thinking about getting either Konflikt '47 or Gates of Antares line figures. I've heard that German plastic kits can be easily converted into Finns with Soviet weapon sprues, what in turn makes it very interesting for having an army built what can be used in both historical Bolt Action game and Konflikt '47 by adding a German mech or captured Soviet tank.
@@senint just personal preference but I'd go for konflikt 47 over Antares any day!! Most of the plastic kits from warlord games not just Germans are great and allows for a lot of customisation
@@andrewatherton4808 True. Alas, Warlord Games has made it easier for doing introduction demo games with GoA, as to that game they have released free quick start rule Pages (and army lists)… 😅 Gotta improvise with command dice and pins though…
@@attentionspanlabs I know this isn't related exactly, but I was curious if you'd heard about antimatter games and their game DeepWars? It's a 28mm mainly metal undersea steampunk-scifi game, and I bought a lot of their stuff just because I get models from any brand if I like the sculpts, but I was a bit curious about the game itself. I can't find ANYBODY talking about it or playing it, and wanted to know if it would interest you, and if so if you'd cover it?
I managed to win a Band of Brothers boxed set, but wasn't really into historical gaming. So, it just sat around until I found this video. I guess I found a use for it! Now, to get some books and convince friends they need to play something different...
That is a great starter set, and you can always sell or trade whichever faction you don't choose. Or you can be like me and start piling up German purchases but not painting them. :)
I'd love to see the Tiger II with the rail-gun, you don't see it much (because you don't see a lot of Konlikt 47 in the first place sadly) I also love that you can use regular bolt action stuff in your army
I can't use my walkers or my power armored infantry, but otherwise, I have use everything I have as a regular Bolt Action army. I even have swappable, 3D printed turrets I can slap on my Sherman Tesla. It's a great two-for-one deal.
@@attentionspanlabs I know one of the german mech let you choose between a rocket launcher and a 75mm gun if you're intersted, not sure if they're swappable but i don't see why they wouldn't be (And that also mean you can swap that tesla/105 with a 3D printed 76 mm !)
Was thinking about getting into this game but the recent announcement about Andy Chambers seems to indicate a new edition is coming somewhat soon. Bolt Action is also getting a 3rd edition later this year so i'd assume any new version of K47 will be based on that.
@@attentionspanlabs True, but the question is findng people willing to play older versions. Where i'm at K47 is niche at best, 40k and Horus Heresy reigns. I'm hoping a tidied up rebooted K47 could pull some interest. It's likely a lot of the current models will carry over so painting some of them up ahead of time might not hurt though.
@@DeathMortarion if they don't have any other version, then there's no difference to them. It's all new to them either way. This obsession with New Product is a disease. The cure starts when we personally choose to ignore it and play what we like.
Your videos inspired me to start a couple K47 armies. Love the setting and all the possibilities. I actually think that the rough outline of the "Rift" tech gives players freedom to take the narrative in any way they want. Thanks for making these videos and I look forward to seeing more.
Thank you for watching. I intend to post a few videos about taking the K47 canon in some different directions, using some already published Osprey Adventures books as ready-made sourcebooks. I hope you will find them interesting, too.
Can you do a tactics series on Konflikt ‘47? I’ve seen ones for Bolt Action but not k47. Love the lore for the game by the way and im thinking about building a joint US Army and USMC force with a few Soviet and German defectors (sort of a narrative-driven army). I hope warlord games expands on the lore with new factions (like allies for the Soviets) and new units for pre-existing factions. Perhaps maybe even novels.
I am working on some videos on military walker doctrine and practice, and will get into some combined arms tactics videos. There are some short stories or novelettes set in K47 as well as narrative special missions that can be purchased on the Warlord shop. Thanks for watching!
Yeggi.com is the premier stl search engine. I also check thingiverse directly, because all models on there are free, though Yeggi does search it. I generally have not kept track of which stl's I used, but I will look them up over the next few days and put upsome links. I'll have a new video up soon with that information.
Yes, I'm greatly abashed because I made these videos back when warlord games miniature line was relatively cheap. There have been at least two and I think three significant price increases since then. In my opinion totenkorps and shibito need to have at least 15 to twenty zombies to be effective, but when they are effective they are real pain in the ass.
A LGS didn't have the full size copy of the main rules; looked at Warlord and saw it was $45USD...ended up just going with the US starter set (just need a good set of reading glasses to read it!) for $150...save on the shipping and supporting a LGS.
I always search ebay or other second hand sites for rulebooks, as they are usually lots cheaper as long as they are still in print. I think I am continually apologizing for saying how affordable this game was, which it was at the time I made the video, but is really quite expensive now. In any case, I'm glad you got into it. Thanks for watching!
Can you possibly tell me what the third book along (with the infantry air assault o the cover) is? I am moving from GW 40k & really liked the Elysian range so want to continue with a focus on air assault units.
Worth saying machine gun teams are terrible in bolt action, generally worse value for point than standard infantry (50point MMG team is 5 infantry models, so the MMG has slightly longer range, but fewer wounds, can easily be taken out by a sniper and can't move an shoot for the same points and shots) don't put MMGs in your force unless you litterally have nothing else you can put in for 50 points. Also you can make officers from the standard infantry sprews, they're designed for that.
I agree that machine guns are nerfed. 3 shots for an HMG, even with a +1 PEN, isn't worth it. 4/5 shots for an LMG/MMG (or 5/6 if you're German) is better value, but even then it's not enough. The sample "suppression fire" rules they came up with are weak, too. First, they only work with MMGs or a squad with two(!) LMGs -- and most squads cannot take two LMGs in the first place -- next, they impose an additional 'to-hit-' penalty just to get the chance for one extra Pin. I just played against a Japanese army the other day and his 10 men with compression rifles (3 shots each, -1 PEN) wiped out half of my infantry squad with LMG *in hard cover* in one volley. That's almost like having a whole squad with LMGs. Actually, in K47 the German and Jap special weapons are way overpowered, or at least far superior to the Tesla, which has a much shorter range, less penetration against infantry, and is much less likely to hit. But that's another story.
So where are the rules for the individual units of factions found? I haven't played Bolt Action, but would like to start Konflikt. Are the carry over models from Bolt Action found in the faction books for Bolt Action? So do I need to get that to field those models? Where are the rules for the New models such as walkekrs? In the new core book that comes in an A5 form in the starter boxes?
The core book has the basic army lists for Germany, UK/Commonwealth, USA, and the Soviets. If you want the army lists for the Finns, Japanese, or Italians, they are in separate books. These include many "late war" standard Bolt Action units as well. Of course, you can always use the other Bolt Action units that are listed in the army books such as "Armies of the United States" etc...
@@attentionspanlabs Brillinat! Thank you very much. Any recommendations for a starting officer for a UK list? That's gonna be my faction of choice, so I'll need an officer as you said to go with the starter set.
If you get this set, you can get the starter set, plus an automated weapon platform, plus an Galahad-armored officer and his cadre. us.warlordgames.com/products/konflikt-47-british-supply-bundle?_pos=13&_sid=1429cd271&_ss=r
I’m just looking at the store and I’m trying to figure out how Italy is viable with only infantry from the konflict side, is there an ally system or are their normal units good enough?!
Remember you can use all the vehicles and arty from Bolt Action, too. Both Italian factions are further equipped by the Germans and Americans/British respectively. Also, unless you were playing a tank war game, you are generally not going to have too many vehicles or artillery pieces on the table.
Obviously, I prefer the Americans. This is mostly because I think they have the best mechs (I hate mechs with spade-shaped feet, which all of the Germans except for the Locust have). Germans have the best looking (and best equipped, since they have models with LMGs and Panzerschreck) powered armor heavy infantry, plus the Schreckwulfen and Nachtjaegers. They also have a King Tiger X with a rail gun that is almost guaranteed to knock down buildings in one shot. If you like painting camouflage, pick Germany. Japan has very characterful models and powerful exo-skeleton infantry (they are not Resilient, but Tough and Fast), but are weak in the tank/mech department. Compression rifles with their three shots are very effective against regular infantry, even with the -1 PEN, but useless against vehicles and Resilient infantry. Both Italian states have fantastic looking armored infantry. They are weak in terms of vehicles and their nation-specific rules are only ambiguously useful. There is no starter set for them, though. Finland has great Ski troops, plus you can have a lot of German equipment, including werewolves and vampires. They are always going to be a primarily infantry force, though. British Commonwealth can use a lot of American equipment, plus the Automatons which are really cool looking, but I'm not sure how effective they are in battle. They have big plusses and minues and are one of the more conceptually interesting units in the game. Australians and Gurkhas look very cool. Russia is the army whose look I like the least, except for the Cherno Alpha style heavy infantry and the Ursus werebears. If you like hordes of infantry, this is for you, since they get a free Inexperienced squad in every formation.
I will note that if I was painting a camouflage heavy army, like Germany or Finland, it would have taken me a lot longer to get my force ready. Take that into consideration.
@@attentionspanlabs I see, thank you. Don't know the rules, but can you combine armies? Like bring an american army and a detachment of loyalist italian power armour infantry?
There are no specific rules about how to utilize allies, but of course you can do whatever you like with them in your own games. If you are into "approved" tournament style play, the force structures will differ from tourney to tourney, but Warlord does not pass down diktats about what minis you can use or how your armies have to constructed the way GW does. Within the game, there is the concept of a reinforced platoon structure. Each faction has several different reinforced platoon structures depending on the branch of the service (i.e. US has a different one for marines, airborne, standard infantry, armored infantry, tank platoons, and a generic one), plus structures for different time periods and theaters. My suggested way to use them would be to construct one US platoon and one Italian Co-Belligerent platoon. You could also just have "captured" enemy vehicles incorporated in your regular unit.
I wouldn't say that there is a best faction to start with as lots of the forces have tons of options, it's the lesser nations that don't get too many options, I'f you already have a bolt action force it's easier to add than start a fresh.
You're right. That's very strange. The Finland Starter Box Set *does* have vampires and werewolves, but it appears to be sold out. konfliktingopinions.com/2017/10/21/winter-warriors-the-finnish-starter-set-for-konflikt-47/
When I started collecting I used existing German force that I used in bolt action, and just added special units like Totenkorps, nachtjager, nachtalben, shreckwhulfen, I didn't really bother with a mech until later on but obviously if you were starting from scratch a starter box is the best option 👍
Yes, I should have pointed out that if you already have a Bolt Action force, it is terribly easy to get playing Konflikt '47 with just a small handful of purchases.
Nachtalben are a really interesting unit. One of only three or four Elite units in the game (the others being the US Paragons, IIRC).
Hmmm, not a bad idea there.
I've been thinking about getting either Konflikt '47 or Gates of Antares line figures.
I've heard that German plastic kits can be easily converted into Finns with Soviet weapon sprues, what in turn makes it very interesting for having an army built what can be used in both historical Bolt Action game and Konflikt '47 by adding a German mech or captured Soviet tank.
@@senint just personal preference but I'd go for konflikt 47 over Antares any day!!
Most of the plastic kits from warlord games not just Germans are great and allows for a lot of customisation
@@andrewatherton4808
True. Alas, Warlord Games has made it easier for doing introduction demo games with GoA, as to that game they have released free quick start rule Pages (and army lists)… 😅
Gotta improvise with command dice and pins though…
@@attentionspanlabs I know this isn't related exactly, but I was curious if you'd heard about antimatter games and their game DeepWars? It's a 28mm mainly metal undersea steampunk-scifi game, and I bought a lot of their stuff just because I get models from any brand if I like the sculpts, but I was a bit curious about the game itself. I can't find ANYBODY talking about it or playing it, and wanted to know if it would interest you, and if so if you'd cover it?
Nothing better then helping the folks break WEIRD! Well done.
Great advice! I started with the IJA Starter Set. Insane value, especially when compared to other Tabletop War Games.
Love this game the almost endless amount of ww2 model kits makes kitbashing and customs a blast
I managed to win a Band of Brothers boxed set, but wasn't really into historical gaming. So, it just sat around until I found this video. I guess I found a use for it! Now, to get some books and convince friends they need to play something different...
That is a great starter set, and you can always sell or trade whichever faction you don't choose. Or you can be like me and start piling up German purchases but not painting them. :)
I'd love to see the Tiger II with the rail-gun, you don't see it much (because you don't see a lot of Konlikt 47 in the first place sadly)
I also love that you can use regular bolt action stuff in your army
I can't use my walkers or my power armored infantry, but otherwise, I have use everything I have as a regular Bolt Action army. I even have swappable, 3D printed turrets I can slap on my Sherman Tesla. It's a great two-for-one deal.
@@attentionspanlabs I know one of the german mech let you choose between a rocket launcher and a 75mm gun if you're intersted, not sure if they're swappable but i don't see why they wouldn't be (And that also mean you can swap that tesla/105 with a 3D printed 76 mm !)
I love the premise of this game!
The Ursus troops didn't come with the starter set I just bought those separately.
Was thinking about getting into this game but the recent announcement about Andy Chambers seems to indicate a new edition is coming somewhat soon. Bolt Action is also getting a 3rd edition later this year so i'd assume any new version of K47 will be based on that.
Maybe. But you can still play older versions of games. They don't arrest you or anything.
@@attentionspanlabs True, but the question is findng people willing to play older versions. Where i'm at K47 is niche at best, 40k and Horus Heresy reigns. I'm hoping a tidied up rebooted K47 could pull some interest. It's likely a lot of the current models will carry over so painting some of them up ahead of time might not hurt though.
@@DeathMortarion if they don't have any other version, then there's no difference to them. It's all new to them either way.
This obsession with New Product is a disease. The cure starts when we personally choose to ignore it and play what we like.
Your videos inspired me to start a couple K47 armies. Love the setting and all the possibilities.
I actually think that the rough outline of the "Rift" tech gives players freedom to take the narrative in any way they want.
Thanks for making these videos and I look forward to seeing more.
Thank you for watching. I intend to post a few videos about taking the K47 canon in some different directions, using some already published Osprey Adventures books as ready-made sourcebooks. I hope you will find them interesting, too.
Can you do a tactics series on Konflikt ‘47? I’ve seen ones for Bolt Action but not k47. Love the lore for the game by the way and im thinking about building a joint US Army and USMC force with a few Soviet and German defectors (sort of a narrative-driven army). I hope warlord games expands on the lore with new factions (like allies for the Soviets) and new units for pre-existing factions. Perhaps maybe even novels.
I am working on some videos on military walker doctrine and practice, and will get into some combined arms tactics videos.
There are some short stories or novelettes set in K47 as well as narrative special missions that can be purchased on the Warlord shop.
Thanks for watching!
could you give us some direction on the 3d prints you used and what you think are the top sites to find WWII .stl's? Thanks.
Yeggi.com is the premier stl search engine. I also check thingiverse directly, because all models on there are free, though Yeggi does search it. I generally have not kept track of which stl's I used, but I will look them up over the next few days and put upsome links. I'll have a new video up soon with that information.
Totenkorps is a nice unit when you are a zombie fan. However the price of 35 Euros for twelve models is a bit steep.
Yes, I'm greatly abashed because I made these videos back when warlord games miniature line was relatively cheap. There have been at least two and I think three significant price increases since then.
In my opinion totenkorps and shibito need to have at least 15 to twenty zombies to be effective, but when they are effective they are real pain in the ass.
A LGS didn't have the full size copy of the main rules; looked at Warlord and saw it was $45USD...ended up just going with the US starter set (just need a good set of reading glasses to read it!) for $150...save on the shipping and supporting a LGS.
I always search ebay or other second hand sites for rulebooks, as they are usually lots cheaper as long as they are still in print. I think I am continually apologizing for saying how affordable this game was, which it was at the time I made the video, but is really quite expensive now. In any case, I'm glad you got into it. Thanks for watching!
Can you possibly tell me what the third book along (with the infantry air assault o the cover) is? I am moving from GW 40k & really liked the Elysian range so want to continue with a focus on air assault units.
The one with the US jump troops and the Mudskipper on the cover is the K47 main rulebook.
@@attentionspanlabs ok thank you!!!
Worth saying machine gun teams are terrible in bolt action, generally worse value for point than standard infantry (50point MMG team is 5 infantry models, so the MMG has slightly longer range, but fewer wounds, can easily be taken out by a sniper and can't move an shoot for the same points and shots) don't put MMGs in your force unless you litterally have nothing else you can put in for 50 points.
Also you can make officers from the standard infantry sprews, they're designed for that.
I agree that machine guns are nerfed. 3 shots for an HMG, even with a +1 PEN, isn't worth it. 4/5 shots for an LMG/MMG (or 5/6 if you're German) is better value, but even then it's not enough. The sample "suppression fire" rules they came up with are weak, too. First, they only work with MMGs or a squad with two(!) LMGs -- and most squads cannot take two LMGs in the first place -- next, they impose an additional 'to-hit-' penalty just to get the chance for one extra Pin.
I just played against a Japanese army the other day and his 10 men with compression rifles (3 shots each, -1 PEN) wiped out half of my infantry squad with LMG *in hard cover* in one volley. That's almost like having a whole squad with LMGs.
Actually, in K47 the German and Jap special weapons are way overpowered, or at least far superior to the Tesla, which has a much shorter range, less penetration against infantry, and is much less likely to hit. But that's another story.
So where are the rules for the individual units of factions found? I haven't played Bolt Action, but would like to start Konflikt. Are the carry over models from Bolt Action found in the faction books for Bolt Action? So do I need to get that to field those models? Where are the rules for the New models such as walkekrs? In the new core book that comes in an A5 form in the starter boxes?
The core book has the basic army lists for Germany, UK/Commonwealth, USA, and the Soviets. If you want the army lists for the Finns, Japanese, or Italians, they are in separate books. These include many "late war" standard Bolt Action units as well. Of course, you can always use the other Bolt Action units that are listed in the army books such as "Armies of the United States" etc...
@@attentionspanlabs Brillinat! Thank you very much. Any recommendations for a starting officer for a UK list? That's gonna be my faction of choice, so I'll need an officer as you said to go with the starter set.
If you get this set, you can get the starter set, plus an automated weapon platform, plus an Galahad-armored officer and his cadre. us.warlordgames.com/products/konflikt-47-british-supply-bundle?_pos=13&_sid=1429cd271&_ss=r
I’m just looking at the store and I’m trying to figure out how Italy is viable with only infantry from the konflict side, is there an ally system or are their normal units good enough?!
Remember you can use all the vehicles and arty from Bolt Action, too. Both Italian factions are further equipped by the Germans and Americans/British respectively. Also, unless you were playing a tank war game, you are generally not going to have too many vehicles or artillery pieces on the table.
What do you think is the best faction to start with?
Obviously, I prefer the Americans. This is mostly because I think they have the best mechs (I hate mechs with spade-shaped feet, which all of the Germans except for the Locust have).
Germans have the best looking (and best equipped, since they have models with LMGs and Panzerschreck) powered armor heavy infantry, plus the Schreckwulfen and Nachtjaegers. They also have a King Tiger X with a rail gun that is almost guaranteed to knock down buildings in one shot. If you like painting camouflage, pick Germany.
Japan has very characterful models and powerful exo-skeleton infantry (they are not Resilient, but Tough and Fast), but are weak in the tank/mech department. Compression rifles with their three shots are very effective against regular infantry, even with the -1 PEN, but useless against vehicles and Resilient infantry.
Both Italian states have fantastic looking armored infantry. They are weak in terms of vehicles and their nation-specific rules are only ambiguously useful. There is no starter set for them, though.
Finland has great Ski troops, plus you can have a lot of German equipment, including werewolves and vampires. They are always going to be a primarily infantry force, though.
British Commonwealth can use a lot of American equipment, plus the Automatons which are really cool looking, but I'm not sure how effective they are in battle. They have big plusses and minues and are one of the more conceptually interesting units in the game. Australians and Gurkhas look very cool.
Russia is the army whose look I like the least, except for the Cherno Alpha style heavy infantry and the Ursus werebears. If you like hordes of infantry, this is for you, since they get a free Inexperienced squad in every formation.
I will note that if I was painting a camouflage heavy army, like Germany or Finland, it would have taken me a lot longer to get my force ready. Take that into consideration.
@@attentionspanlabs I see, thank you. Don't know the rules, but can you combine armies? Like bring an american army and a detachment of loyalist italian power armour infantry?
There are no specific rules about how to utilize allies, but of course you can do whatever you like with them in your own games. If you are into "approved" tournament style play, the force structures will differ from tourney to tourney, but Warlord does not pass down diktats about what minis you can use or how your armies have to constructed the way GW does.
Within the game, there is the concept of a reinforced platoon structure. Each faction has several different reinforced platoon structures depending on the branch of the service (i.e. US has a different one for marines, airborne, standard infantry, armored infantry, tank platoons, and a generic one), plus structures for different time periods and theaters. My suggested way to use them would be to construct one US platoon and one Italian Co-Belligerent platoon. You could also just have "captured" enemy vehicles incorporated in your regular unit.
I wouldn't say that there is a best faction to start with as lots of the forces have tons of options, it's the lesser nations that don't get too many options, I'f you already have a bolt action force it's easier to add than start a fresh.
I am afraid that the German starter set only has 5 zombies and no werewolves or vampires
You're right. That's very strange. The Finland Starter Box Set *does* have vampires and werewolves, but it appears to be sold out. konfliktingopinions.com/2017/10/21/winter-warriors-the-finnish-starter-set-for-konflikt-47/
@@attentionspanlabs Well, that's a better starting box for ze germans than the german one!
Agreed. If you were wanting to start a German army, I'd recommend the Finnish set.
Ah... YES Star Grunt & Imperial Commander - the good old days when rules cost a fiver & did not get re written EVERY DAMED YEAR to skank the players.
I would really like to try this game but its hard to justify investing in it when everyone around you only plays warhammer and X-wing
Perhaps you can talk a friend or two into trying it. I am surprised you live somewhere that Bolt Action is not played.
I just complimented my Russian army with conflict. I started with faction specific gun. Then went from there
Good to hear. Have you played any games yet? If so, what do you think are the Russians' notable strengths and weaknesses?
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