After 4 years of begging, I finally had the pleasure of saying “Roll the intro” in Hsiang’s video…. Gotta say, the hype is real. My skin felt smoother. Had the best night’s sleep I’ve had in months. The pain in my right knee also started to get better. I guess what I’m trying to say is the experience was unapologetically a 9.8/10. Highly recommend y’all get in on this.
Great video! However... in my opinion you have not even rode a S22 unless you have done so with the CNC roller sliders... its a complete game changer.... try this review again after riding a fixed S22 (CNC bearing sliders). The 3d printed sliders don't compare to the CNC sliders. Kingsong is currently working on their own version of the bearing sliders too. The S22 suspension without the bearing sliders is total shit for everything except for stairs and big drops... with the CNC sliders it blows away the S18 and V11 suspension in every way and still handles the stairs and drops like a dream (I don't have a Sherman S to compare it to).
This comment…. The friction on stock sliders makes the standard suspension almost useless. With CNC bearing sliders it now actually has a suspension that is responsive that you can fine tune and I can now enjoy the wheel doing MTB tracks.
Thanks for the thorough comparison of the 3 wheels, Hsiang. That Sherman S looks really tempting. You made those 25 minutes go by so quickly and did not waste my time. Great video!
Now this review was definitely worth 25 wasted minutes, lol. I LOVED this comparison Sean, coming from you - a monster rider/reviewer, from fu**in NYC, it just carried a boatload of credibility and info. Best video concerning these three wheels out there. And also congrats for opening your shop, huge kudos. By the way, love your gear, it looks lightweight, tactical, and fetching (lol). Thanks my friend......
@@OWGAC great video as always, now I can't wait to have the S compare to the EX30. BTW, what is that armor gear you are wearing? looks awesome, link please.
Your sub count honestly shocks me, youre by far my favorite EUC content creator even though I love all you guys. Still debating on my first wheel, dont think im going this top end to jump into the pool though hahah. Keep the videos coming man, hopefully run into ya someday once im riding im only a stone throw away in MA haha
Thank you! My next two reviews are T4 and the inmotion V12 so two candidate for the best starter wheel! So let see if I can help you with some choices! =)
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@Hsiang Excellent comparison review! Will your shop carry more accessories soon, along with the eRides pedals? Like titanium pedal rods, pads, GyroRiderz gloves, & possibly third party Sherman S pedals? P.S. Any response from LeaperKim on the nylon & lead (Pb) handles??
I ❤️ the new website and subscribed to your newsletter! Thank you for building it and I'm looking forward to watching it grow! I always love seeing how are community is growing from within. Been watching your videos for over 2 years since I first started on the EUC journey. The quality of the videos are outstanding and yet you somehow find a way to keep making them better! Big shout out to you for helping grow our community! 👍
This reminds me of the early 90s when suspension on mountain bikes were brand new and every manufacturer was trying something different, some with better results then others. That was a really exciting time to be in the sport just like this is for EUCs now. I do look forward to these guys working the bugs out though and giving us a powerful, polished wheel though. This new crop of wheels really shows what will be possible once everything is dialed in. 5ish inches of plush suspension. 60ish mph top speeds, and a solidly built uncompromising chassis and electronics systems. All these wheels are great and so much better than what was out just a year or so ago but I’m also excited for the future!
"This looks so DANGEROUS!!!" a thought that pops in my head a number of times while watching you riding through New York haha! it reminds me of seeing bicyclists riding around in Toronto, dodging opening car doors almost always successfully, thinking "i would like to ride a bike but im not into testing my reflexes and faith twice a day!" but im not judging, i'm admiring your skills, your willingness and courage to zip around in the traffic between giant metal boxes driven by sometimes distracted operators! it actually looks really fun so i'm living vicariously through you so thank you!! I wish we all had amazing smooth and safe roads and/or bike paths to enjoy to go everywhere we want to. maybe in a future soon who knows :)
It'll be interesting when you can compare the Sherman s to the commander pro. Still leaning towards the Sherman s, but am interested in the commander pro as well (especially now that it's 134v). 🙂
I've been between the Sherman S and V13. The Sherman has amazing suspension but the V13 has the quality and finish I'm looking for in a PEV. Waterproofing, lighting, app support, overall build quality, modularity for repairs, etc. I just wish the suspension was better.
@@iqmark2761 No. The V13 has: - much better display - IP rating - modular design - smart BMS The Sherman S has none of these... And for the rest I suspect the suspension is closely the same. I just wish the V13 was 18-20"
Loving my S22 so far! Mine has been problem free but EUCO still sent a new motor as a recall and allowed me to install which made it quick and easy. The lack of rollers on the suspension sliders is a big fail but curable. Also, I would like a little louder speaker for alerts. I have to ride very easy because I can't hear a single beep at any speed over wind noise. Otherwise, I love the S22.
@@cdrogers72 I’m not familiar with the inner workings, would it get dirty even with that addition? Or was dirt the cause of the issue? Sorry for asking too many questions
fell in love with the Sherman S but couldn't afford it, just grabbed a S22 Pro off a friend and learning it one km at a time. coming from a 18XL I'm sure there's a learning curve indeed.
Thanks for the review. The Sherman S sounds great. I'm confused about "fully" hydraulic comment regarding shocks. You've either got an air spring or a steel spring and then an oil damper system. There is no hydraulic spring shock that I am aware of given that the reason we use hydraulic fluids is that they are incompressible.
I’m still in the noob phase on my EUC journey, but capable enough. I’ve been riding the Sherman for over 200 miles. I’ve tried the master early in my EUC journey and can’t really say much because I really couldn’t ride it to its potential and only noticed the suspension was a welcomed feature. Forward to yesterday with about 300 miles total riding. I tried my friend’s s22 and it was just easy, smooth and overall predictable. I was totally vibing with it. In short I wouldn’t mind owning an s22, but the Sherman S is very tempting. It’s just the price tag that hurts. I’m hoping though that the new Commander Pro will help bring down the price of the S. Awesome video bro.
Hey, great video Hsiang, it makes me feel a lot better about dropping this much cash on a Sherman S pre-order. Hopefully your store will stock aftermarket Sherman S pedals at some point because I'm really not a fan of the stock pedals. I was able to ride the S for a bit at Eevees and that's the first thing, other than pads, I'm going to buy for the wheel. Cheers!
Thanks for the great review. It's the Sherman S without a doubt; top marks ... but hmmm! ... or maybe not?? The final verdict really comes after your, and only your, review of the EX30; it's a very good-looking wheel that seems to be Begode's answer to the Sherman.
Love this review and the content. For a good while I was down to KS22 and Master. Then KS decided non-Chinese market can take a leap with the non-recall, recall, and I decided not to put any trust in KS. Making mistakes on a product is one thing. Not caring about a section of the market is another. Then Sherman S came out….the price is high but I don’t have to spend hundreds to bubble wrap it and another 2-300 for adequate suspension upgrade. Now…Commander Pro comes out. That 134v may tip it for me pending reviews. Keep it up!
“City Boy!” Thanks for that. I spend most of my time off road. I think the S22 is better for trails. Just got my S22 and it is way better off road than my regular Sherman. I would love to try the Sherman S but I’m certain the extra weight will be a problem. Especially on steep hill climbs and muddy off camber conditions.
Thanks for this comparison that's what I was looking for. Must have taken a fair bit of editing to get all that perspective. I think when factoring quality out of the box, it would be a landslide victory for the Sherman s
The only thing that I don't think was factored in was the price. The Sherman S is looking to be something like $4100. You can get a S22 for around $3200 or less with the fixed motor and buy the suspension rollers. Likewise Master is around that number and you have $1k to make upgrades. Either way excellent video as always and I think you hit the concerns/strengths/rideability of each very well (considering that most of us plebs haven't ridden the sherman S we'll have to take your word for it). Probably the only EUC channel that I don't skip ahead on this type of stuff.
i have been looking at this wheel hard because its the lightest of the new wheels. i have an EX.N at 72lbs and my knees are bad after medium riding. specifically on the outside or sides of my knees which catch the weight on hard or slow turns. i dont want heavier and was eyeing tthe s18 to go lighter + suspension but the s22 is still a contender. the +'s outweigh the -'s so far for me. ty!
I loved riding the S22! Just keep in mind that the range is terrible, my ride was about 10 miles and it went from 100% down to 50%. I was riding pretty hard but I imagine 20 miles is about it for a more aggressive rider
Tried the Sherman s at the Apple Valley Speedway races and it's a lovely ride but just makes me more excited about my ex30 orderwhich is the same weight, battery wh and price yet 134v, 4000w Waterproof motor, adjustable height pedals, 4th gen suspension etc..I feel the sherman s is great but overpriced compared to the competition..I also tried Marty Backe's master with his $100 spring suspension mod and his master's suspension now feels as good as the Sherman s so the future of begode wheel suspension like the ex30 is looking bright
Great review and point comparison between all the current heavy hitters. Definitely looking forward to your Sherman S vs Commander Pro thoughts 🤔 and thanks for the feature 👍
I don’t need to go faster than 50kph ever. I want to accelerate and brake aggressively at low to medium speeds. As much as I would enjoy the Sherman S suspension, I keep coming back to master for my next wheel.
Great comparison! I’m a Master rider and agree with all the points made. Sherman S not a good replacement or additional wheel for the Master, will likely get the V13 instead
Thank you for that! I am far from ready to buy, but this is a review that helps. I like the idea of a wheel I can lift without risking a hernia (S22), but really like the idea of a smooth, more controllable wheel. These three all seem to have decent motors, from what you saw?
So where I landed on the motor is that the Master is the most powerful one, but feels a bit boring, the S22 is the most exciting since it has that rubber band effect and the sherman S is almost on par with S22 at 30+ but lose out at the lower end.
@@OWGAC I am excited to see how the S22 V2 turns out. The Sherman S looks fantastic, but I value light and lively over weight and range. The S22 V2 will be my next wheel.
Hey Sean had an idea what would happen if we put on the Master cross braces under or over the top and the bottom of the battery mounting points to stiffen up the flex
Nice review. The only thing I dread though would be tire changes. Eevee's teardown of the sherman s makes a wheel change seem like a several hours endeavor.
Would absolutely love to see a head to head against sherman s, ex30, and commander pro they seem to be 3 very similar wheels in size and such they are the 3 wheels I'm on the fence about especially the sherman s and the commander pro really not sure which would be better mainly city riding and side roads (55mph paved) between towns with long range riding will be mainly a commuter wheel to go to work 32 miles one way
Always liked your thoughts on the EUC wheels and their design.....all I can say is I can't wait till you review the V13!!! Also will be curious what wheel you will buy for yourself.....Although I think I know what you might pick :)
Thanks for the thorough video. Just curious, which wheel you'd recommend for someone transitioning from a V11 who rides mostly on street surfaces for commuting and short rides (the Master, T4, V13, EX30, or Sherman S, etc.) Thanks in advance for your time and reply. Stay safe out there!
⚡ *Another epic episode* ⚡ Great to hear the opinions from other regular, real riders in the NYC Uni community. Great analysis on the stability and what that Feels like when ridin!
still feel good for my S pre order! You did well to delineate the feel between those wheels. Begode eliminates themselves just from what I've seen of their quality time and again.
As a Master owner, you're not wrong about there being no battery. I've never run it dry but even with the 50E range packs, 2,400 Wh is too small. Example: (I left my doorstep at 100%) By the end of a 3.3 mile ride to the YMCA (where the speed limit is 40 mph) my battery was at 49% due to battery sag. After allowing it rest, it rose to 93%. No big wheel should have that drastic of a depletion. I don't live in a city where I can go fast then slow. I need speed so I don't get run over by a truck on these country back roads. I love pure speed regardless of how it feels, but I'd be lying if I told you I didn't think the wheel would shut off at any moment. No beeps but hearing EUC World tell you you're losing 10% per minute is terrifying when there are no shoulders, traffic is behind you, and you still have a 1.5 miles to go. Personal thoughts: I'm still hopeful for the future. By 2026 we should have a 100 mph EUC. 2020 - 35 MPH 2021 - 45 MPH 2022 - 55-65 MPH 》2023 - 65-75 MPH +10 MPH each year
I rode 12 miles to the demo and everyone rode it hard for 4 hrs and I then rode it home and the wheel had 70% left, I don't think I can cover enough distance in a day to really test the limit..
I appreciate the level of candor @ 4:10 "The master pro suspension is garbage" And @ 16:21 "of course my last memory of this wheel [king-song S20] was it blowing up in my face, haha", which follows with a caption that reads 'whole ugly story available on my channel', but unfortunately provides no links to it causing me to go dig it up frantically. And, here it is for anyone thats curious: th-cam.com/video/8h41p13e4TU/w-d-xo.htmlm12s
Another great video! Keep it up. But the "I tricked you into wasting another 30mins" gag at the end of each video really taints the feeling after such good content. Thanks again for the great video. Much love from Australia.
Thank you for the video! Master must have Kuba linkage and propper shock or it won't compare.. but with 6 spacers and 235psi on Monarch RT3.. Master is everything I ever dreamt of :D E. quess KS22 must have the propper sliders too.. Sherman wins out of the box.
I ordered the Sherman S and after finding out that the suspension tends to require adjustment I cancelled my order and waiting on my Commander Pro..lets hope I didn’t make a mistake!!
I could never, I had one serious crash, I didn’t know if it was over 90% not to do any aggressive braking, when I crashed, I burnt the controller, broke my full face helmet, and I was only doing 10-13 mph, dress for the slide not the ride.
When there will be an actual V13 review released?? I'm tired of all the little snippet videos of the V13 that don't tell us much and feeling bummed over the wait & angry. I'm getting Wangry...
I want an s22 even just for it’s looks (performance is more than enough for me with any of these tbh). But I heard there are issues (I know almost all euc’s have issues)
"Waisted our 15 minutes"? Perhaps if these wheels were sold on the corner and we could try them all out for free. But these are multi-thousand dollar of investments and 20 minutes is certainly worth the time.
After 4 years of begging, I finally had the pleasure of saying “Roll the intro” in Hsiang’s video…. Gotta say, the hype is real. My skin felt smoother. Had the best night’s sleep I’ve had in months. The pain in my right knee also started to get better. I guess what I’m trying to say is the experience was unapologetically a 9.8/10. Highly recommend y’all get in on this.
Great video! However... in my opinion you have not even rode a S22 unless you have done so with the CNC roller sliders... its a complete game changer.... try this review again after riding a fixed S22 (CNC bearing sliders). The 3d printed sliders don't compare to the CNC sliders. Kingsong is currently working on their own version of the bearing sliders too. The S22 suspension without the bearing sliders is total shit for everything except for stairs and big drops... with the CNC sliders it blows away the S18 and V11 suspension in every way and still handles the stairs and drops like a dream (I don't have a Sherman S to compare it to).
This comment…. The friction on stock sliders makes the standard suspension almost useless. With CNC bearing sliders it now actually has a suspension that is responsive that you can fine tune and I can now enjoy the wheel doing MTB tracks.
Thanks for the thorough comparison of the 3 wheels, Hsiang. That Sherman S looks really tempting. You made those 25 minutes go by so quickly and did not waste my time. Great video!
Now this review was definitely worth 25 wasted minutes, lol. I LOVED this comparison Sean, coming from you - a monster rider/reviewer, from fu**in NYC, it just carried a boatload of credibility and info. Best video concerning these three wheels out there. And also congrats for opening your shop, huge kudos. By the way, love your gear, it looks lightweight, tactical, and fetching (lol). Thanks my friend......
Thank you!!! Glad you enjoy it =)
@@OWGAC great video as always, now I can't wait to have the S compare to the EX30. BTW, what is that armor gear you are wearing? looks awesome, link please.
Awesome feedback. Would love to see a Sherman-S vs Commander Pro vs EX30 vs V13 next :)
Me too! I am not sure when either one of those wheels will finally land but certainly looking forward to it!
21:00 the killer moment is that the car honked at Hsiang, and he just zoomed faster than that car and the car was like "wtf how..?" lol
Great explanation of the suspension flex. I needed that. Thank you👍
Your sub count honestly shocks me, youre by far my favorite EUC content creator even though I love all you guys. Still debating on my first wheel, dont think im going this top end to jump into the pool though hahah. Keep the videos coming man, hopefully run into ya someday once im riding im only a stone throw away in MA haha
Thank you! My next two reviews are T4 and the inmotion V12 so two candidate for the best starter wheel! So let see if I can help you with some choices! =)
@@OWGAC Looking forward to it man, I was looking at the V12 and the RS actually so T4 isnt too far off.
@@bordapatrol4930 did you get one already?
@@Cons2911 I have not yet !
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@Hsiang
Excellent comparison review!
Will your shop carry more accessories soon, along with the eRides pedals? Like titanium pedal rods, pads, GyroRiderz gloves, & possibly third party Sherman S pedals?
P.S. Any response from LeaperKim on the nylon & lead (Pb) handles??
MFing #Hsianggang
Great video as always, hope your business start up is going well 🤙🏼
I ❤️ the new website and subscribed to your newsletter! Thank you for building it and I'm looking forward to watching it grow!
I always love seeing how are community is growing from within.
Been watching your videos for over 2 years since I first started on the EUC journey. The quality of the videos are outstanding and yet you somehow find a way to keep making them better!
Big shout out to you for helping grow our community! 👍
This reminds me of the early 90s when suspension on mountain bikes were brand new and every manufacturer was trying something different, some with better results then others. That was a really exciting time to be in the sport just like this is for EUCs now. I do look forward to these guys working the bugs out though and giving us a powerful, polished wheel though. This new crop of wheels really shows what will be possible once everything is dialed in. 5ish inches of plush suspension. 60ish mph top speeds, and a solidly built uncompromising chassis and electronics systems. All these wheels are great and so much better than what was out just a year or so ago but I’m also excited for the future!
+1 Im only willing to pay that much money for something reliable that is going to be problem free for the next 3 ish years as a daily commuter...
"This looks so DANGEROUS!!!"
a thought that pops in my head a number of times while watching you riding through New York haha!
it reminds me of seeing bicyclists riding around in Toronto, dodging opening car doors almost always successfully, thinking "i would like to ride a bike but im not into testing my reflexes and faith twice a day!"
but im not judging, i'm admiring your skills, your willingness and courage to zip around in the traffic between giant metal boxes driven by sometimes distracted operators! it actually looks really fun so i'm living vicariously through you so thank you!!
I wish we all had amazing smooth and safe roads and/or bike paths to enjoy to go everywhere we want to.
maybe in a future soon who knows :)
V13 doesn't even come close to Sherman s suspension perfection 😘
I'm light weight and riding on the mountains in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 my V12 HS is perfect for me. I'm still checking the T4.
Thanks for the comparison.
Based on your assessment, I like the Kingsong S22. I'm partial to lighter and more agile wheels.
With the cnc rollers its not even the same wheel really. I don't know the content creators have figured that out yet.
I think you’ve hit your stride with this video! Your best video so far! You’ve got me fired up.
Great video man. Thanks for the info. I am selling my gt and looking for a euc. I am loving the Sherman S and the v18
It'll be interesting when you can compare the Sherman s to the commander pro. Still leaning towards the Sherman s, but am interested in the commander pro as well (especially now that it's 134v). 🙂
I've been between the Sherman S and V13. The Sherman has amazing suspension but the V13 has the quality and finish I'm looking for in a PEV. Waterproofing, lighting, app support, overall build quality, modularity for repairs, etc. I just wish the suspension was better.
V13 has no range compared to ShermanS only difference that the v13 has smart BMS if you care about that.
@@iqmark2761 +14a fast charging, with less worry thanks to the smart BMS and properly sealed battery, reducing fire risk.
Inmotion has a bad track record with all their fancy features. Also their firmware always feels cheap. Too much pedal movement.
Inmotion has pedal dipping..beware of that
@@iqmark2761 No.
The V13 has:
- much better display
- IP rating
- modular design
- smart BMS
The Sherman S has none of these... And for the rest I suspect the suspension is closely the same.
I just wish the V13 was 18-20"
Loving my S22 so far! Mine has been problem free but EUCO still sent a new motor as a recall and allowed me to install which made it quick and easy. The lack of rollers on the suspension sliders is a big fail but curable. Also, I would like a little louder speaker for alerts. I have to ride very easy because I can't hear a single beep at any speed over wind noise. Otherwise, I love the S22.
I use wireless headphone so i cannot miss the beeps! I have a 16x and the speaker is pretty loud! but cant hear noting after 35 kph anyways..
Beeps are so loud on the s22
Will the upgrade fix the slider issue? What do you guys think, I want an s22..looks so sexy
@@Cons2911 I installed the 4 roller cnc sliders and the wheel is perfect. Super smooth now.
@@cdrogers72 I’m not familiar with the inner workings, would it get dirty even with that addition? Or was dirt the cause of the issue? Sorry for asking too many questions
I used to live in Flushing! Great memories!
Sherman $ without a doubt 🧐
fell in love with the Sherman S but couldn't afford it, just grabbed a S22 Pro off a friend and learning it one km at a time. coming from a 18XL I'm sure there's a learning curve indeed.
All things considered, especially the weight, size and price, I'm very happy with the V11.
Car analogy : V11 and wheel it's size are the sedans. The 80lbs+ wheels are SUV.
I am not looking for an SUV but they are nice to ride.
I actually still ride my V11 around a bit it is a great practical “go anywhere” wheel as long as you don’t push it!
v11 big downside: its soooo uglyyyy
@@Blox117 lol, I think it's beautiful
Thanks for the review. The Sherman S sounds great. I'm confused about "fully" hydraulic comment regarding shocks. You've either got an air spring or a steel spring and then an oil damper system. There is no hydraulic spring shock that I am aware of given that the reason we use hydraulic fluids is that they are incompressible.
I’m still in the noob phase on my EUC journey, but capable enough. I’ve been riding the Sherman for over 200 miles. I’ve tried the master early in my EUC journey and can’t really say much because I really couldn’t ride it to its potential and only noticed the suspension was a welcomed feature. Forward to yesterday with about 300 miles total riding. I tried my friend’s s22 and it was just easy, smooth and overall predictable. I was totally vibing with it. In short I wouldn’t mind owning an s22, but the Sherman S is very tempting. It’s just the price tag that hurts. I’m hoping though that the new Commander Pro will help bring down the price of the S. Awesome video bro.
Hey, great video Hsiang, it makes me feel a lot better about dropping this much cash on a Sherman S pre-order. Hopefully your store will stock aftermarket Sherman S pedals at some point because I'm really not a fan of the stock pedals. I was able to ride the S for a bit at Eevees and that's the first thing, other than pads, I'm going to buy for the wheel. Cheers!
Thanks for the great review. It's the Sherman S without a doubt; top marks ... but hmmm! ... or maybe not?? The final verdict really comes after your, and only your, review of the EX30; it's a very good-looking wheel that seems to be Begode's answer to the Sherman.
Love this review and the content. For a good while I was down to KS22 and Master. Then KS decided non-Chinese market can take a leap with the non-recall, recall, and I decided not to put any trust in KS. Making mistakes on a product is one thing. Not caring about a section of the market is another. Then Sherman S came out….the price is high but I don’t have to spend hundreds to bubble wrap it and another 2-300 for adequate suspension upgrade. Now…Commander Pro comes out. That 134v may tip it for me pending reviews. Keep it up!
“City Boy!” Thanks for that. I spend most of my time off road. I think the S22 is better for trails. Just got my S22 and it is way better off road than my regular Sherman. I would love to try the Sherman S but I’m certain the extra weight will be a problem. Especially on steep hill climbs and muddy off camber conditions.
Nice video as always, hey man what's that jacket you are wearing at 12:12? It's looks snazzy!
I have the begode master and S22 I will say when riding mountainbike trails or steep grade master is king.
Thanks for this comparison that's what I was looking for. Must have taken a fair bit of editing to get all that perspective. I think when factoring quality out of the box, it would be a landslide victory for the Sherman s
The only thing that I don't think was factored in was the price. The Sherman S is looking to be something like $4100. You can get a S22 for around $3200 or less with the fixed motor and buy the suspension rollers. Likewise Master is around that number and you have $1k to make upgrades. Either way excellent video as always and I think you hit the concerns/strengths/rideability of each very well (considering that most of us plebs haven't ridden the sherman S we'll have to take your word for it). Probably the only EUC channel that I don't skip ahead on this type of stuff.
i have been looking at this wheel hard because its the lightest of the new wheels. i have an EX.N at 72lbs and my knees are bad after medium riding. specifically on the outside or sides of my knees which catch the weight on hard or slow turns. i dont want heavier and was eyeing tthe s18 to go lighter + suspension but the s22 is still a contender. the +'s outweigh the -'s so far for me. ty!
I loved riding the S22! Just keep in mind that the range is terrible, my ride was about 10 miles and it went from 100% down to 50%. I was riding pretty hard but I imagine 20 miles is about it for a more aggressive rider
@@OWGAC oh wow thats wierd... i get better milage from my 16x in the cold riding agressively....
You are my favorite EUC video producer. Your spirit and joy in your work comes right through. And you make me want to buy one
Epic vid! I really missed those scenes with the NYC crew....so much ideas and input on the topic! Thanks so much Hsiang!👍👍
I think I'll go with the V11 for my 1st wheel, that'll give the Sherman S & V13 enough time to work out the bugs by the time I grow out of the V11 🥰
Better get a used v11. The latest batches are said to be a hit and miss
Lol I got my v11 in Sept, now already itching for an upgrade
@@hoalanho so, sell it to Anthony;)
great review. enjoyed the comparisons& sherman s cleared the staircase with ease!
Thanks Hsiang! Waiting for comparison between sherman s and v13.
Tried the Sherman s at the Apple Valley Speedway races and it's a lovely ride but just makes me more excited about my ex30 orderwhich is the same weight, battery wh and price yet 134v, 4000w Waterproof motor, adjustable height pedals, 4th gen suspension etc..I feel the sherman s is great but overpriced compared to the competition..I also tried Marty Backe's master with his $100 spring suspension mod and his master's suspension now feels as good as the Sherman s so the future of begode wheel suspension like the ex30 is looking bright
Great review and point comparison between all the current heavy hitters. Definitely looking forward to your Sherman S vs Commander Pro thoughts 🤔 and thanks for the feature 👍
I just got the master. I love it. I'm hoping it will last a long time
Please tell me what the shoes are in the 'master' chapter (from 7:46 on) ? I am in love with those ankle braces
They're Nike / Acronymn Blazers
I don’t need to go faster than 50kph ever.
I want to accelerate and brake aggressively at low to medium speeds.
As much as I would enjoy the Sherman S suspension, I keep coming back to master for my next wheel.
You make great videos, thank you for helping us decide on the Sherman 😊
I preordered a inmotionv13, I currently ride a inmotionv12 and I cant wait for some good suspension for long trips.
Great comparison! I’m a Master rider and agree with all the points made. Sherman S not a good replacement or additional wheel for the Master, will likely get the V13 instead
Thank you for that! I am far from ready to buy, but this is a review that helps. I like the idea of a wheel I can lift without risking a hernia (S22), but really like the idea of a smooth, more controllable wheel. These three all seem to have decent motors, from what you saw?
So where I landed on the motor is that the Master is the most powerful one, but feels a bit boring, the S22 is the most exciting since it has that rubber band effect and the sherman S is almost on par with S22 at 30+ but lose out at the lower end.
@@OWGAC I am excited to see how the S22 V2 turns out. The Sherman S looks fantastic, but I value light and lively over weight and range. The S22 V2 will be my next wheel.
@@michaeldavidson3349 As soon as Kingsong annonce the S22 V2 with rollers im getting my credit card out!
Excellent video 👍👍
Excellent video, as always. I appreciate your insight sir.
👍👍- Another great review. Gracias Senor Sean.
Great review! I have a 16x, S22 and hearing about the Sherman S it sounds like a very nice ride!
I bought one with your link buddy. Keep killing it out there!
I wonder the severity of the injuries "in case" something happens. Broken clavicle, humerus, the radius, or the ulna?
Hey Sean had an idea what would happen if we put on the Master cross braces under or over the top and the bottom of the battery mounting points to stiffen up the flex
Nice review. The only thing I dread though would be tire changes. Eevee's teardown of the sherman s makes a wheel change seem like a several hours endeavor.
The S22 just makes you smile 😁
Im currently looking at the s22 Pro.
Would absolutely love to see a head to head against sherman s, ex30, and commander pro they seem to be 3 very similar wheels in size and such they are the 3 wheels I'm on the fence about especially the sherman s and the commander pro really not sure which would be better mainly city riding and side roads (55mph paved) between towns with long range riding will be mainly a commuter wheel to go to work 32 miles one way
Always liked your thoughts on the EUC wheels and their design.....all I can say is I can't wait till you review the V13!!! Also will be curious what wheel you will buy for yourself.....Although I think I know what you might pick :)
16:00 how is the s22 setup to go max speed of 46mph?
Thanks for the thorough video. Just curious, which wheel you'd recommend for someone transitioning from a V11 who rides mostly on street surfaces for commuting and short rides (the Master, T4, V13, EX30, or Sherman S, etc.) Thanks in advance for your time and reply. Stay safe out there!
what is the name of the armor jacket you are wearing? I love it where did you get it? ! always great videos! thanks
⚡ *Another epic episode* ⚡
Great to hear the opinions from other regular, real riders in the NYC Uni community.
Great analysis on the stability and what that Feels like when ridin!
That was so good 🤩
Thanks mate
still feel good for my S pre order!
You did well to delineate the feel between those wheels.
Begode eliminates themselves just from what I've seen of their quality time and again.
Sherman S all the way.
As a Master owner, you're not wrong about there being no battery. I've never run it dry but even with the 50E range packs, 2,400 Wh is too small.
Example: (I left my doorstep at 100%) By the end of a 3.3 mile ride to the YMCA (where the speed limit is 40 mph) my battery was at 49% due to battery sag. After allowing it rest, it rose to 93%.
No big wheel should have that drastic of a depletion. I don't live in a city where I can go fast then slow. I need speed so I don't get run over by a truck on these country back roads. I love pure speed regardless of how it feels, but I'd be lying if I told you I didn't think the wheel would shut off at any moment. No beeps but hearing EUC World tell you you're losing 10% per minute is terrifying when there are no shoulders, traffic is behind you, and you still have a 1.5 miles to go.
Personal thoughts: I'm still hopeful for the future. By 2026 we should have a 100 mph EUC.
2020 - 35 MPH
2021 - 45 MPH
2022 - 55-65 MPH
》2023 - 65-75 MPH
+10 MPH each year
100mph = lose 1% every second
Maybe Master pro, Ex30 or V13 will be ideal for you
EUCs are not going to get any faster without new battery tech. People are already complaining about 100lbs wheels
Hey Hsiang nobody have talk about the sherman s range ...🤔🤔🤔 what's the range?
I rode 12 miles to the demo and everyone rode it hard for 4 hrs and I then rode it home and the wheel had 70% left, I don't think I can cover enough distance in a day to really test the limit..
I appreciate the level of candor @ 4:10 "The master pro suspension is garbage"
And @ 16:21 "of course my last memory of this wheel [king-song S20] was it blowing up in my face, haha", which follows with a caption that reads 'whole ugly story available on my channel', but unfortunately provides no links to it causing me to go dig it up frantically. And, here it is for anyone thats curious: th-cam.com/video/8h41p13e4TU/w-d-xo.htmlm12s
By the time I can save up for that bad boy there will be how many editions later lol. Love it either way. Ride like a maniac!
Another great video! Keep it up.
But the "I tricked you into wasting another 30mins" gag at the end of each video really taints the feeling after such good content.
Thanks again for the great video.
Much love from Australia.
Thank you for the video! Master must have Kuba linkage and propper shock or it won't compare.. but with 6 spacers and 235psi on Monarch RT3.. Master is everything I ever dreamt of :D
E. quess KS22 must have the propper sliders too.. Sherman wins out of the box.
Yeah, there’s definitely things you can do to make the Master ride way better, but as someone local said it’ll always be “a work in progress”
What do you mean by 6 spacers? I'm pretty interested in improving my master. Thanks
Also curious to know more about how to improve my master’s suspension. Any vids you recommend?
I ordered the Sherman S and after finding out that the suspension tends to require adjustment I cancelled my order and waiting on my Commander Pro..lets hope I didn’t make a mistake!!
what gear do you have on? links please
I could never, I had one serious crash, I didn’t know if it was over 90% not to do any aggressive braking, when I crashed, I burnt the controller, broke my full face helmet, and I was only doing 10-13 mph, dress for the slide not the ride.
On the s22 pro by the way
Oh man. Now I want to ride this wheel.
Thanks for sharing your opinions! Are you gonna wait to test the commander pro before pulling the trigger on your new wheel?
Great vid! 👍 I really like that jacket, where can I purchase? Thanks!
I would like to start reviewing ecu’s onmy TH-cam channel where do I start
Looks really nice 👍
Supposedly there is a recall on begode/gotway wheels because of a fire hazard? If true, is there really much competition?
What are the laws of riding these EUC on the city streets? Are they considered a bicycle?
Are you ever going to get your hands on a v13?
When there will be an actual V13 review released?? I'm tired of all the little snippet videos of the V13 that don't tell us much and feeling bummed over the wait & angry. I'm getting Wangry...
Would you deny the EUC community the oppertunity to speculate between a recently released EUC, & a EUC that no one has seen yet?
I want an s22 even just for it’s looks (performance is more than enough for me with any of these tbh).
But I heard there are issues (I know almost all euc’s have issues)
Wich tire and size are you running on the master? Great vid!!!!
Did I miss mention of range?
What's your recommendation for us big guys that want to get into this? 270+
Sherman-S all the way, all day, every day!
What gloves are you wearing? Red and black. Are they Gyroriderz?
Yeah they are! Kinda beat up now but I love them!
Right on I just got a pair couple weeks ago. So far so good. I just wish they were single strap closure without the long slit.
Right on I just got a pair couple weeks ago. So far so good. I just wish they were single strap closure without the long slit.
whats the name of your helmet with the chin guard?
I'm going with the Sherman S. Only concern I have that wasn't brought up here is the pedals.
Any issues with how they felt, Grip wise?
"Waisted our 15 minutes"?
Perhaps if these wheels were sold on the corner and we could try them all out for free.
But these are multi-thousand dollar of investments and 20 minutes is certainly worth the time.
more drum and bass pleas
Is it good to buy the s22 when the upgrade comes? Or is the slider still an issue you guys think?
Review the T4
When will the v13 be available to order?
last I heard its been pushed again to January, honestly I rather inmotion take their time and make it right than to have another problems fill launch!
I think S22 Pro is more balanced and safe wheel compared to begode master.