They retroactively realized that: • AMD is killing it •Consumers are becoming more tech savvy and cost concious So if they didn't increase the margins, like Linus said they're gouging their higher-tier Intel lineup way too aggressively to be good for their profits
2019 Intel, after having lost the desktop market: "Meh, who cares? The laptop market is more profitable." 2020 Intel, after having lost the laptop market: "We're still good. The server market is more profitable." 2021 Intel, after having lost the server market: "Spare change?"
Brace yourselves. ARM is coming for desktops and servers. Or RISC V, as soon as people realize they can make their own SOCs Intel and AMD are going to struggle, Apple is already moving to their own in house ARM chips for desktops and laptops.
@@chinchy111 That's your excuse to use Intel? lmao. Don't be a corporate shill. Currently, AMD provides the best value CPU + Motherboard combo. You can get a 3700x + x570 less a i7. You choose.
Abdelhak Essbai Imo mkbhd is fine but who the fuck cares about the 200th phone that has a screen, processor and some camera. Like honestly, who cares. I don't get how he has the same amount of subs as LTT and more subs then a lot of other channels. Guess you aren't main stream enough if you actually go deeper into subjects that aren't understandable for every normal person. As you said mkbhd reviews are super basic
Yeah, I agree MKBHD reviews are basic but that's the idea. The people that watch his channel aren't tech geeks like a lot of LTT viewers and just knowing that Marques says its good is all they need. It's not like Marques doesn't know what he's talking about, he could go in-depth if he wanted too.
It's mind blowing. I've been watching Linus since back when I hated him and his voice, but he was the only person talking about enthusiast PC products and interesting cooling theories in a way that that caught my attention. Now he's a full blown multi-media video production studio with footage that looks better than billion dollar corporate advertisements. He's a unicorn IMO.
Also Brands: lets's put those clearly much more powerful cpus than intel in the budget series, and put the underwhelming with heat problems intel cpus on the "premium" models.
I'm actually really digging the AMD APU's for laptops. It's just the perfect compromise between office work and playing a game when needed and/or doing even some serious CAD work as well as video editing. the Intel integrated graphics always used to be way to limited in this. In a professional environment these AMD APU's are powerful enough ,which means I don't have to rely anymore on a dedicated workstation. Just hook up a monitor, mouse and keyboard when needed and I am ready to go. When on the road or on a plane I still have enough oomph to prepare the job for the next client
I'm going into mechanical engineering, and the recommend cpu is a 10th gen i7, but I'm thinking the ryzen 4000 apu's might be a better deal. Idk for sure though?
@@juliangavras9445 That depends what kind of program's you're going to run. But if it's just going to be integrated intel graphics, without an additional GPU, I personally would never recommended it. Unless you're only going to do extremely basic 3D CAD drawings. Just the Intel will work, but it's not a very pleasant experience in my opinion.
@@killertruth186 intel actually lost already, but there are not much choice for amd laptops yet, because manufacturers doesn't use amd as much as intel.
I have a envy 15 2017 and it's great. For the price of under 1000 bucks. Its a great laptop. It feels premium for a high-mid range laptop. Honestly, the HP series are good enough for the money.
@@hellotheir1427 yeah, i have a envy 15 with a 7500u/8gb ram/256gb ssd/ 1080p ips panel. I've got it for 750dls. It still feels like a premium laptop. But... Performance wise, it's like 1/4th of the new ryzen cpu's
The least compelling argument that I hear leveled at Intel is them being 'stuck' on 14nm. Even Linus went out of his way to try to correct the ignorance and direct the conversation in a progressive direction. Intel could make whatever sized nodes they want but their current architecture is most well optimized for the 14nm process. Until their Skylake+ architecture is completely reworked, they are going to continue to pursue gains in 14nm. 5.1ghz stock was unheard of just a couple years ago it's not like they are literally selling you the same chip with a different sticker on it.
6:58 Me: I hate how small my hands are. HP: I got something that 68% of males and half of females can't enjoy as much as you will. Me: Yo, lemme hit that.
I had a dream this morning of me owning a Envy x360. Linus was right everything except for the screen aspect ratio and keyboard were amazing. Now I really want it 😩
@@Shaihan I got the HP ENVY x360 ar0126-au one 3 days ago because it was the only one available in my area. Although the processor was from last year (a Ryzen 7 3700u), it still feels fast and snappy, has 4 speakers (one on the top of the keyboard, two on the side below where you hand rests, and one in the bottom) which sounds great for an ultra book, has a pen and touchscreen and a physical camera shut-off switch. Yes I will say, it is an excellent machine for me who loves small, light laptops with a lot of performance (but don't expect performance from a gaming laptop).
@@Uilliam56 In graphics performance sure, but AMD processors DESTROYS Intel right now. A Ryzen 7 4700U is more powerful than any H series processor except for the i9. And yes, I'm comparing a U series processor vs an H series processor. I just bought a laptop with that processor and it's 80% better at cinebench than my 2.5 years old gaming pc with an i7 7700H. Just amazing what AMD has done here.
Actually bought this after this review (typing this on it now!) - so far, very impressed. The tablet mode basically replaced my iPad for entertainment and for work - it blazes through office tasks and I've even used Premiere Pro on it a little, I definitely wouldn't use it as my primary editing machine, but for starting an edit on the go, it's solid and having the USB-C port is a great boon there. Honestly, not having used a higher aspect ratio, it doesn't bother me in anyway and I guess my hands must be on the smaller side as I found the keyboard very comfortable and the keys are nice and give a nice little tactile bump at the bottom of the key press!
No joke. My work machine is a Dell Latitude with an i7-9850H and, even when I've got a task running at ~30-50% CPU, it sounds like it's going for takeoff! The thermals on this unit are just terrible!
As much as I love AMD CPUs... they have a long way to go with their GPUs. I really wanted to buy an AMD GPU last year, but the problems that people were having with them, along with the horrible drivers, steered me into nvidia's direction. I can only hope that the profit they make with the current Ryzen generation of CPUs allows them to invest more into their GPUs.
@PixelatedCoder I know, but drivers are really important to me. I'm doing graphics programming, so I need something that's stable (this is not to say that nvidia's drivers are amazing. No, nvidia also has bad drivers, but they are performing a bit better... and until something else surfaces on the market, they get the crown among bad drivers).
The absolute domination of AMD over Intel kinda makes me wish they would get involved in mobiles cpus and create a new architecture that would dominate Qualcomm and their monopoly.
Qualcomm’s domination largely comes from their modem instead of processor POWAH. Tegra was very powerful but without modem, few companies actually bothered
AMD does have ARM license if 1 day they decided to compete in the mobile cpu market. Though, it doesn't make any financial sense. That segment is just way overcrowded these days.
@@jelleposthuma8786 Hi I've had issues with the fan: too loud even at 36 degrees. is the same (now I'm waiting HP to send me back my Envy and see if they've fixed the problem...)
Few if any TH-camrs do a better job of paid promotions than Linus. He's incredibly good at keeping his audience engaged, by making the paid promotion something that is expected, not for the sake of the promo, but his incredibly cheesy segues, which always have you wondering what he's going to pull next. It was only natural that at some point the surprise segue we always expect would become surprising because it isn't a one. I hate paid promotions, they have ruined TH-cam, but I admire Linus's talent, and wish other channels were as creative about this.
There's still no high end AMD models. There are no 4800u models in a lot of places, and even where they sell a 4800u model they're not even in stock. There's no thunderbolt, and the top sku is only available in the G14 which has a god awful screen.
5 years ago: Intel RULES THE WORLD!! Now: Should the thought of buying an Intel device even be worth the energy it takes to have it enter your mind for consideration?
@TheGoat those were very early adopter problems. I sold s lot of 3500/3700u equiped laptops and i haven got a lot more complains than any intel laptop. 4000u have come a long way since amd's 1st gen
@TheGoat You cant blame a shit laptop with shit cooling on AMD. AMD don't build laptops. It would be like watching a shit movie and blaming it on Samsung for making your TV.
Lol, Im watching this on my HP Envy that just came in through the mail an hour ago. Was waiting for Linus's review on it but didn't want to miss the 4th of July sale! Great laptop that's for sure!
You always feel like some of these OEMs have agreements with Intel to out AMD CPUs in lower end models....cause they must know it's the best mobile CPU
I guess it's because new laptop CPUs are actually the mid-range CPUs and they high end AMD CPUs for mobile will be coming with Zen 3. Funny how Intel's CPUs lose to AMDs midrange
The interesting thing is that why would people buy their higher-end models if they get better value per performance on the low-mid range models. Obviously, the non-techy people are none the wiser so that is the only thing Intel has for them or some models are outfitted with features only available with Intel.
It's not thin and light at all though like the 13". I have the 2018 version of the 15". Unless they've done something to significantly reduce the weight it's not going to be easy to carry it around at all.
Hey man, just to bring to your attention, I bought the envy x360 (India) and got a defective piece, they rejected a replacement when I demanded it in December, ignoring the tilted hinge, problematic headphone jack and other defects. It's been 4 months of use and laptop lags while using chrome. Just CHROME. Now the hinge connector got loose, and it shattered the screen when I was closing the laptop. They're now asking me to pay a price (under warranty under 4 months of use) for a goddamn hinge replacement. Hp customer support sucks (at least in India). Being a student the laptop's price was a premium and now I've to pay more for this. If someone from hp is reading this comment please help me out
Laptops manufactured for the Indian subcontinent are of subpar quality. The models manufactured for the american and European markets have next level build quality and overall performance. Hence the issues you've been facing.
craziest thing about the battery test is that the spectre had 10 more watt hours. 60 vs 50 for the envy. That is crazy good coming from and efficiency.
I own one of these with the r7 8core and its incredibly capable even for gaming, the only oversight is that you cant wake it up if its in tablet mode unless you go back to laptop mode bc the keyboard (where the power button is placed) is locked out so you dont accidentally type while handling it. If you have the pen paired to it over bluetooth you can wake it up using the pen buttons but its still somewhat annoying.
@@lukasfugner7778 that's funny I have an older one with 2000 series r7 and it has a power button and volume rocker on the side. It has windows hello as well. Just a shame the thermals are awful :/
@@auricx Swift 3. Just be aware, you can't upgrade the RAM. I have the Ryzen 4700U model with a 16:9 screen. Its a great little laptop, but the 8GB of non upgradable RAM does concern me long-term. Also, the screen is not very bright, but fine in door use. If you're using it outside a lot, you may have issues.
It's great to see you making reviews on budget laptops. Make more videos on cheap(comparatively) and good laptops like this. We trust your reviews and it helps very much. keep it up bro
@KorinXploits What? That depends since Intel is superior in single core performance (not by that much but enough to consider as and option) Thermals, power draw, multicore and price/performance AMD is clearly better AMD's scalable platform is nice too though not ideal at all timws
I saw the Newegg model with the R7 4700U for 800$. I really love AMD right now. (I still can't afford it but you know, still really nice to see competition!).
@@gofergofrunio6281 It basically means a group of people on the internet will harass, doxx and try to unearth anything that could be seen as bad you have ever done in your life in hopes of ruining you as a person. And if they can't find anything they will usually fake it. This will go on until at least every single company you worked with has dropped you, and very often continues until you either completely stop having an online presence, or you k*ll yourself. This comment was made as a joke though, cause in a recent episode of their tech podcast they were talking about erasing their old online posts to prevent "getting cancelled". In going through their old posts they noticed that in one thumbnail they used a banana for scale but with Linus putting it in front of his pants.
While watching your videos, I couldn’t help but be amazed of how your channel easily cemented itself as a household name here in the Philippines. I mean, nearly most of the TH-cam Tech reviewers in the Philippines knows you and is a big fan yours. Your review has always been concise and easily understandable from a super techy person to a newbie techy person like me. Thank you for always bringing good content. Love from the Philippines. 🇵🇭
I used to work retail. I wonder if those conservative "know it all" dad customers will change their absolutist mindset about Intel being the only option.
From my experience, the only way to beat an absolutist is to use indisputable facts. "Hi, welcome to PC store" _I want a laptop with good value, doesn't have to be special_ "try out this mid range AMD model for $700" _But I want intel. Intel is way better than AMD_ "I'm sorry but time has changed. I can show you benchmarks of performance tests that shows AMD handling intel's ass like a monster, current AMD technology is faster, cheaper, doesnt run as hot as intel, and has longer battery life." _I don't believe you, you don't know anything if you think AMD is better than intel_ "Sir, no offence but do you work as a computer retailer? Or has any background related to computers?" _I don't but you do so I expected that you would already know by now that intel is the best thing you can get for laptops in all circumstances_ "then i suggest you ask the same questions to other retailers and prove me that i am wrong" It wont always work, some absolutist have the Kruger effect but at least they will accept it with a pinch of salt. _Fine i dont wanna argue with you. Everyone seems to tell the same thing even on stores on the other side of the state, just give me that amd laptop and ill be done here_
16:10 Aspect Ratio, the Golden Ratio, that was pretty common on monitors in 2010 and is coming back to laptops. I find this really funny for Linus to use as a nitpick.
@@happygimp0 Perhaps, perhaps not, but if the completely unnecessary transition to 16:9 hadn't happened, I'm not sure we'd even be having this conversation. Though with that said, 4:3 has more vertical space than 3:2, hence it is better.
I loooove my envy I got it at a great price with a ryzen 5. I even paid some more to get more ram and an ssd in. The only thing that I didn't like was that the power button on it broke recently. I disassembled the laptop and desoldered and resoldered a new replacement button onto the mother board, good as new.
I have the 2018 model envy x360. The side power button is SO easy to get jammed. I couldn't open it myself because I didn't have a star shaped screw driver. When I took it to Best Buy the guy said he'd seen many similar situations with HP power buttons. I love how far AMD has come with Ryzen mobile cpus but the side power button is enough to stop me from buying another Envy.
@@mr.klunee4103 I don't buy HP anymore duo to too many issues showing up too soon and bad service. The repair shop gay already joked: "Ah, the letters HP stand for "Horrible Products". Love them, they secure my job!"
Not really a theory. They always got stuck with low tier product lines and proving they deserve top teir shells is being more effecient and powerful at the same time. I'm just waiting for anyone else to use a 4900h/hs in a laptop to see how far they really good.
Imagine someone coming here after long and confused why linus is giving voiceover to the guy on the screen 9:35 our sponsor drop.com, Linus' smile says it
I'm glad manufacturers are making more AMD chipset laptops, finally laptops are more cheaper. Now if only the gaming and premium laptops can have more AMD options than Intel ones
@@supremeoverlordetna Shot does look pretty good. Could be a bit more creative, but he's still probably experimenting around with it. But duuuude. I wish Taran and the camera guy can collab a bit more. I would love to see some nicer transitions besides the basic fade or cut. They're probably completely busy with a lot more projects, but it's definitely a dream of mine.
Am I the only one who likes his laptop screen at 16:9 aspect ratio? hahahahhahaha it is sleeker... Imagine if the laptop has no bezels all throughout like smartphones? It's gonna be so small and handy...
$500 CAD is the cost of a basic desktop, prices may bring that down closer to 400, but in my experience, unless you go with used components, you can expect to pay no less than $300 for the cheapest and most basic desktop (and that's if you're custom building and watching PC part picker closely)
Given how much we're seeing people asking for AMD laptops, I'm guessing manufacturers will have started designing some by now. When do you think we'll actually start to see some good options being announced?
Linus: says good things about a product
Company: yeah, let's price it up
Every Company, always. Just look at the fifine 669
just checked. its $1199.99 CND at best buy now. So they jacked it up by over 1 hundred dollars
hp doesn't price it up.....they have a reputation ..mostly 3rd party vendors like your local store or best buy might have jacked the price up
They retroactively realized that:
• AMD is killing it
•Consumers are becoming more tech savvy and cost concious
So if they didn't increase the margins, like Linus said they're gouging their higher-tier Intel lineup way too aggressively to be good for their profits
@@jasongooden917 That's regular price isnt it???
5:13
With a name like that, you might be disappointed if it _didn't_ flex.
Some might even argue it would be false advertising if it didn't flex.
hahhahaha This is great
Underated comment
I wonder if they would use that as a selling point and people would just eat it up
up to 47% more flex than the competition
@@JesusMeza3 no, the flex is the 360 spinning.
"Should you even consider Intel laptops" is the original title btw
Guess he changed it to avoid getting struck by pro intel guys
I swear like every ltt video title nowadays is changed from my notification title when i play it later, especially apple videos.
Intel oof size: *_LARGE_*
@@mohammedalsultan8915 I think they do it on every video now, as a fun easter egg for early people or something, or just bait...
@@mataskart9894 they have production titles that get changed at release
2019 Intel, after having lost the desktop market: "Meh, who cares? The laptop market is more profitable."
2020 Intel, after having lost the laptop market: "We're still good. The server market is more profitable."
2021 Intel, after having lost the server market: "Spare change?"
More like the Data Centre market is more profitable
2022: AI market is more profitable
Brace yourselves. ARM is coming for desktops and servers.
Or RISC V, as soon as people realize they can make their own SOCs Intel and AMD are going to struggle, Apple is already moving to their own in house ARM chips for desktops and laptops.
@@mildloser2248 amd can always switch to arm if that happens. they can produce both x86 and arm together as well.
11th gen is coming to laptops.
@@andmicbro1 you can't make your own ARM Station it's only gonna be in laptops or Smith soo
HP: soooooooo you're saying it's too cheap? Noted.
@RITA , I LOVE SЕХ , WANT SЕХ !!! OPEN MY CANAL !!!Why? Just why?
SHE DELETED HER COMMENTS LMAO
@@aurasushii3676 what did it say?
@@aurasushii3676 yeah, im curious too
Linus: AMD Laptops are basically better in almost every way.
Intel: Cries in the background
Intel left the chat
They are better... in EVERY single, conceivable way. Unless you like that blue sticker on your laptop, cause AMD is red.
They only have themselves to blame.
@@daffhead4975 5% isn't that much better at gaming.... With amd u can encode/decode faster, it supports more and faster ram too to name a few
@@SharapovaFan So kinda like my parents liking that Apple logo.
"Intel isn't the only option anymore" That's why Intel is losing now. They got lazy of being always on top.
amd: victory has defeated you
intel: ......
@Eric Evans What bad experience?
Was the problem pre-Ryzen or was it something with customer support or their GPUs?
According to steam survey 25% use AMD 75% use intel
@@chinchy111 That's your excuse to use Intel? lmao. Don't be a corporate shill. Currently, AMD provides the best value CPU + Motherboard combo. You can get a 3700x + x570 less a i7. You choose.
@@chinchy111 yeah it may be,but those days are now flipping
AMD is like the kid everyone doubted in the beginning then started throwing hands.
You would know huh?
The underdog
In this case, everyone doubted him because he did poorly the last time he was in the scene
Rex Galilae yup
Exactly just like Naruto
0:21 what is this dy laptop
Haha lol
On Linus’ channel, I’d expect to see a diy laptop, but not a dy one
It's a FU laptop. It's logo is a flipping hand.
@@imthirun r / whoooosh
Mariner Chris no hes got a point no need to woooosh
Linus: Says something very positive about AMD
Intel: Add more cores!!!
They literally have core in the name..
Xyonex up next: Intel core i11 11100K
RAISE THE CORE CLOCK BY 50 MHZ
(12nm++++++)+++
Oh! The irony!
LTT production qualities are getting out of hand
This is Making it hard for me to watch other channels
exactly, I can't watch any other channel, even MKBHD reviews seems basic and just based on his sole opinion.
Abdelhak Essbai Imo mkbhd is fine but who the fuck cares about the 200th phone that has a screen, processor and some camera. Like honestly, who cares.
I don't get how he has the same amount of subs as LTT and more subs then a lot of other channels. Guess you aren't main stream enough if you actually go deeper into subjects that aren't understandable for every normal person.
As you said mkbhd reviews are super basic
Yeah, I agree MKBHD reviews are basic but that's the idea. The people that watch his channel aren't tech geeks like a lot of LTT viewers and just knowing that Marques says its good is all they need. It's not like Marques doesn't know what he's talking about, he could go in-depth if he wanted too.
It's mind blowing. I've been watching Linus since back when I hated him and his voice, but he was the only person talking about enthusiast PC products and interesting cooling theories in a way that that caught my attention. Now he's a full blown multi-media video production studio with footage that looks better than billion dollar corporate advertisements. He's a unicorn IMO.
True that, even watching some kids with my toddler I'm sitting there thinking dam this camera quality is rubbish compared to LTT lol
Amd:Faster, better battery life and cheaper
Brands: ye and also out of stock lmao
Also Brands: lets's put those clearly much more powerful cpus than intel in the budget series, and put the underwhelming with heat problems intel cpus on the "premium" models.
@@AIejandroide to be fair they will never put AMD in a flagship, untill they can meet the demand.
@@JustATypicalGinger Premium Devices have lower demand than Budget Devices. So, AMD is better for premium products.
Had to reserve and wait for a month to get a Ryzen 5 4500U Acer Swift 3. Kinda ridiculous waiting time but definitely worth it.
@@CursedDepartmentEastOffice how's the 4500U? I'm thinking of getting a laptop with that chip.
Original title: "Should you even CONSIDER an Intel laptop?"
Edit: The bots have invaded the replies
noticed the same here. totally confused xD
Yeaaaa I was here too
Intel's has newer design. At least on my side of the world.
You can give a video multiple titles and thumbnails and it will automatically chose the one which gets the most clicks.
Yes,for various reasons
I'm actually really digging the AMD APU's for laptops.
It's just the perfect compromise between office work and playing a game when needed and/or doing even some serious CAD work as well as video editing.
the Intel integrated graphics always used to be way to limited in this.
In a professional environment these AMD APU's are powerful enough ,which means I don't have to rely anymore on a dedicated workstation.
Just hook up a monitor, mouse and keyboard when needed and I am ready to go.
When on the road or on a plane I still have enough oomph to prepare the job for the next client
I'm going into mechanical engineering, and the recommend cpu is a 10th gen i7, but I'm thinking the ryzen 4000 apu's might be a better deal. Idk for sure though?
The best thing is that now even intel realized that so their future apus will have even better performance in the gpu side, which is pretty neat.
@@juliangavras9445 That depends what kind of program's you're going to run.
But if it's just going to be integrated intel graphics, without an additional GPU, I personally would never recommended it.
Unless you're only going to do extremely basic 3D CAD drawings.
Just the Intel will work, but it's not a very pleasant experience in my opinion.
Intel was the best CPU in the market, and the AMD is the best APU in the Market. But now Intel is struggling to be the top.
@@killertruth186 intel actually lost already, but there are not much choice for amd laptops yet, because manufacturers doesn't use amd as much as intel.
Now if only we could get an AMD laptop with at least an RTX 2070 inside too ...
I know right, if the blade 15 adv or triton 500 has amd cpu, I'm totally gonna go for it.
The omen 15 might do that
Right?!
Sure wish my blade pro had an amd paired with the 2070
Its intel. Who wants to bet they still are paying companies to keep amd laptops the lower end and not pair with a good nvidia card.
Linus: We will not be comparing three Envy to the XPS 13 today.
Also Linus: Compares it to the XPS 13.
The best part is that it wins.
@@TheYoshieMaster Yes
Linus: Ryzen 4000 is amazing
Me (staring at my Ryzen 2000 laptop): Cries in early adoption
Eh, Raven Ridge is still decent. At least Lenovo finally fixed all of my Thinkpad A485 issues.
Imagine running ryzen 2000 I'm still running i3 7th gen CPU
I'm still running an i7 860 from 2008... which actually works just fine :)
@@chenyang473 cries in i3-2100
Me crying in i5 430M and GT 320
Imagine using an intel laptop
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Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
@Amit Shan Same
Smart toilet gang rise up!
@Amit Shan smart shoes gang here
wtf
HP has incredible product names.
Intel: Spectre, like a ghost from past
AMD: Envy of all intel laptops
I have a envy 15 2017 and it's great. For the price of under 1000 bucks. Its a great laptop. It feels premium for a high-mid range laptop. Honestly, the HP series are good enough for the money.
Pavillion: no one knows what this is but it still sounds friggin cool
@@hellotheir1427 yeah, i have a envy 15 with a 7500u/8gb ram/256gb ssd/ 1080p ips panel. I've got it for 750dls. It still feels like a premium laptop. But... Performance wise, it's like 1/4th of the new ryzen cpu's
Envy used to be a separate high end laptop maker. They were bought by HP not long after Alienware was purchased by Dell.
@@edwardhoffenheim3249 always made new thing of the name of a doctors' building
Glasswire: you can block badly behaving apps.
Windows 10: *sweats heavily*
Microsoft App Store: 👁️👄👁️
Intel: We are winning o laptops
AMD: *_Hold up_*
RITA 25 y.o , Begone bot
@@rita25y.o-checkmyvideo2 If stupidity was painful, you'd be in full agony.
O??
Intel 2030 - Still on 14nm+++++++++++, i11 201100KXZTV, 20 Cores, 40 Threads, Base clock: 0.7 GHz, Boost clock: 6.1 GHz, TDP: 91W, Maximum power draw: 1200W.
AMD 2030 - 2.7nm Quantumripper 9990x 512 core 1024 threads, base clock 6.9 ghz boost clock 42.0ghz, tdp 250w max power draw 350w
Amd alreasy has 64 cores 128 threads, shut the f up
@@sylvie9949 no I think he means 20 cores 24 threads.
Jazmi Hamizan 😂
The least compelling argument that I hear leveled at Intel is them being 'stuck' on 14nm.
Even Linus went out of his way to try to correct the ignorance and direct the conversation in a progressive direction. Intel could make whatever sized nodes they want but their current architecture is most well optimized for the 14nm process. Until their Skylake+ architecture is completely reworked, they are going to continue to pursue gains in 14nm. 5.1ghz stock was unheard of just a couple years ago it's not like they are literally selling you the same chip with a different sticker on it.
B-roll is on another freaking level guys, great job!
Wanted to comment the same thing, it's really amazing
It's the Laowa 24mm lens. It's the most insane piece of lens I've ever seen.
What’s a b-roll ,when’s the B-roll?
I thought they were renders!
@@Labib-dw1lk b-roll is, to explain simply, footage of the product instead of the person talking
6:58
Me: I hate how small my hands are.
HP: I got something that 68% of males and half of females can't enjoy as much as you will.
Me: Yo, lemme hit that.
I had a dream this morning of me owning a Envy x360. Linus was right everything except for the screen aspect ratio and keyboard were amazing. Now I really want it 😩
@thaNorthStar.com yea the amd ones are great
@@Shaihan I got the HP ENVY x360 ar0126-au one 3 days ago because it was the only one available in my area. Although the processor was from last year (a Ryzen 7 3700u), it still feels fast and snappy, has 4 speakers (one on the top of the keyboard, two on the side below where you hand rests, and one in the bottom) which sounds great for an ultra book, has a pen and touchscreen and a physical camera shut-off switch. Yes I will say, it is an excellent machine for me who loves small, light laptops with a lot of performance (but don't expect performance from a gaming laptop).
@thaNorthStar.com Did you buy a custom build from the HP online store and if so does it come with the pen?
68%?
*not nice*
5:13 thats why it is the "flex" 14
it sure is flexible lol
Underrated comment
My thoughts exactly
Legion laptops: ANGRY ADVERTISING NOISES
I'm with you
@@TenmaWhite really? Cuz in Malaysia it has all 3 of the configs, 120hz 45% NTSC, 60hz 72% NTSC & 144hz 72% NTSC
Also Legion Laptops: BAD BATTERY LIFE NOISES
Also Legion laptops: angry thermal throttle noise
Tenma White I live in Indonesia and we got 144hz and 120hz, but the 120hz only available on the ryzen 5 and the rest got the 144hz instead
Intel now is like an old car where you keep pushing the turbo boost just to keep up with everyone 😜
Intel is good with me..
@@idontknow8734
I did not say it was bad 😁
@@HandsomeTH-camBrowser the new cpu is still based on the same old tech from 6000 skylake
"This is my whooooole weekend"
Idk why that cracked me up goven it's so cheesy
that's exactly why
even funnier is that i fell for the sticker pack
ah yes
i bought that thing 2 weeks ago
4700U, 16gb ram, 1tb rom, 400nit display (yes, that's an option)
really pleased so far
How much?
@@billigerfusel Should be around 900-950 USD on rn due to recent price hikes
I bought an asus laptop last December for 750€,i7-9750H and a 1050Ti,way better than what linus is recomending
@@Uilliam56 is that a thin and light?
@@Uilliam56 In graphics performance sure, but AMD processors DESTROYS Intel right now. A Ryzen 7 4700U is more powerful than any H series processor except for the i9. And yes, I'm comparing a U series processor vs an H series processor. I just bought a laptop with that processor and it's 80% better at cinebench than my 2.5 years old gaming pc with an i7 7700H. Just amazing what AMD has done here.
For the 1st time I can actually afford something Linus is reviewing & funny enough, I'm looking at getting a laptop & this would be in my budget!
same bro
This laptop in the 15.6” model is available at Costco right now for only $600!
Same, this HP laptop has little compromise at an affordable price (unless you have big hands)
Truly appreciate y'all limiting the sponsor messages to 10-second multiples.
5:14 Calling a laptop ‘Flex’. I’d say they’re on the money there :’)
:v
Bruh
Nailed it! 🤣🤣
Linus pointing at laptop: "3.3 Ghz!"
Doc Brown pointing at lightning rod on a DeLorean: "1.21 gigawatts!"
It has nothing do with this segment
I freaking love how cheaper laptops are getting a review cause tbh it helps me so much when it comes to making a future purchase 😅😘
Actually bought this after this review (typing this on it now!) - so far, very impressed. The tablet mode basically replaced my iPad for entertainment and for work - it blazes through office tasks and I've even used Premiere Pro on it a little, I definitely wouldn't use it as my primary editing machine, but for starting an edit on the go, it's solid and having the USB-C port is a great boon there.
Honestly, not having used a higher aspect ratio, it doesn't bother me in anyway and I guess my hands must be on the smaller side as I found the keyboard very comfortable and the keys are nice and give a nice little tactile bump at the bottom of the key press!
Thank you for this review! I am definitely considering this laptop as it seems like the best choice for me and I am glad you like it!
Seriously considering buying this one. Anyone has any idea if the ram is upgradeable? I can't seem to find the information.
@@spearheadbt9601 It isn't sadly
@@colbablast6579 ah, I guess that's the price to pay for having such small and thin laptops.
@@spearheadbt9601 no, it's soddered unfortunately
Intel: "Dead Inside"
HP: You ENVY Bro?
XD
LMAO
Me: every time tries to predict the paid promo and LTTstore ad before it appears
Linus: goes in a flow and merges it perfectly in the video
Plz if someone at Dell or HP watching this, build an AMD XPS or 16:10 Envy. It will be the best seller.
Everyone will eventually considering how successful the g14 is
intel is paying them too much for them to do that. yet.
No joke. My work machine is a Dell Latitude with an i7-9850H and, even when I've got a task running at ~30-50% CPU, it sounds like it's going for takeoff! The thermals on this unit are just terrible!
You know Intel's thermal is rubbish when even Apple couldn't stand it anymore.
Intel: you win I give up
AMD: I'm coming after you now Nvidia
To be honest only gay people use amd gpu's
لا تشوف صورة قناتي
Thank you for your honesty.
As much as I love AMD CPUs... they have a long way to go with their GPUs. I really wanted to buy an AMD GPU last year, but the problems that people were having with them, along with the horrible drivers, steered me into nvidia's direction. I can only hope that the profit they make with the current Ryzen generation of CPUs allows them to invest more into their GPUs.
@PixelatedCoder I know, but drivers are really important to me. I'm doing graphics programming, so I need something that's stable (this is not to say that nvidia's drivers are amazing. No, nvidia also has bad drivers, but they are performing a bit better... and until something else surfaces on the market, they get the crown among bad drivers).
AMD CPU with Nvidia GPU is the sweetspot~
AMD: We make the best CPUs now.
Intel: Hold my 4 core CPU with Spectre, Meltdown, ZombieLoad, RIDL, Fallout, SWAPGS...
😂
Literally Spectre, in HP's case...
@@JoaoVictor-hk7iv oh damn lmao
The absolute domination of AMD over Intel kinda makes me wish they would get involved in mobiles cpus and create a new architecture that would dominate Qualcomm and their monopoly.
Qualcomm’s domination largely comes from their modem instead of processor POWAH. Tegra was very powerful but without modem, few companies actually bothered
AMD does have ARM license if 1 day they decided to compete in the mobile cpu market. Though, it doesn't make any financial sense. That segment is just way overcrowded these days.
They are partnering with Samsung.
Amd is not dominating Intel , Intel is way more powerful
@@chadia001 Stfu
"I personally didn't have an issue with my tiny hands"...We're in the same boat Linus. Smallhandgang where u at?
right here
*types in small hands*
Here! ✋
Here!
here! :D
Replying with both hands on my S10e (yes that's the smaller model)
I work in pc sales. Love the envy love ryzen. So bloody great a product. Easy to sell and it makes happy customers
Bought the top spec envy x360 today, hope it'll fit my needs :)
@@jelleposthuma8786 Hi I've had issues with the fan: too loud even at 36 degrees. is the same (now I'm waiting HP to send me back my Envy and see if they've fixed the problem...)
@@TrioLOLGamers just update your BIOs..
@@himu533290 almost updates
@@TrioLOLGamers this should fix your thermal and fan speed issue
tfw Linus isn't even trying anymore and just says "what's a segway?" and goes right into an ad
Few if any TH-camrs do a better job of paid promotions than Linus. He's incredibly good at keeping his audience engaged, by making the paid promotion something that is expected, not for the sake of the promo, but his incredibly cheesy segues, which always have you wondering what he's going to pull next. It was only natural that at some point the surprise segue we always expect would become surprising because it isn't a one.
I hate paid promotions, they have ruined TH-cam, but I admire Linus's talent, and wish other channels were as creative about this.
A Segway is that little thing you ride on. A segue is what Linus does perfectly... some of the time. ;)
@@Patrick-857 You should look at what "Squire" does with his sponsors, it's literally another video on top of the main video x_x
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E but wait your profile pic is black.
Linus, questioning about cosidering an Intel Laptop
Me: Is that even a question? I would refer AMD from the start.
Yes
There's still no high end AMD models. There are no 4800u models in a lot of places, and even where they sell a 4800u model they're not even in stock. There's no thunderbolt, and the top sku is only available in the G14 which has a god awful screen.
Nah Intel still kicks AMD
@@Lead_Foot usb 4 will should solve the thunderbolt problem
@@Savant_Ananya at price and being worse
Me who uses phone: *interesting*
Same here
you're Doraemon, you have everything
Anyone watching this video after watching "Does Intel WANT everyone to hate them?" video
i just bought the HP envy ryzen 7 4700u 8c/8t 512GB ssd and 8gb ram 3200mhz for $700!!!! YES! $700!!!
Lenovo ryzen 4700u just 550$
5 years ago: Intel RULES THE WORLD!!
Now: Should the thought of buying an Intel device even be worth the energy it takes to have it enter your mind for consideration?
@TheGoat those were very early adopter problems. I sold s lot of 3500/3700u equiped laptops and i haven got a lot more complains than any intel laptop. 4000u have come a long way since amd's 1st gen
BUT AT THE BRINK OF DEATH INTEL WILL NEVER LEARN.. THEY ALWAYS WILL BE ANTI CONSUMER, ANTI COMPETITIVE , MONEY GREEDY BASTARDS!
@TheGoat You cant blame a shit laptop with shit cooling on AMD. AMD don't build laptops. It would be like watching a shit movie and blaming it on Samsung for making your TV.
5:14 Lenovo Flex 14, the clue is in the name.
Yeah, more like the Lenovo Deck-Flex 14, am i right?!
Lol, Im watching this on my HP Envy that just came in through the mail an hour ago. Was waiting for Linus's review on it but didn't want to miss the 4th of July sale!
Great laptop that's for sure!
Congrats
Acer swift 3 680$: They called me crazy, they called me powerful, they had called me cheap.
Intel: *Panicking* Heres 4 cores?
AMD: 8 cores.
You always feel like some of these OEMs have agreements with Intel to out AMD CPUs in lower end models....cause they must know it's the best mobile CPU
Feel like? It's exactly that, everyone knows it
I guess it's because new laptop CPUs are actually the mid-range CPUs and they high end AMD CPUs for mobile will be coming with Zen 3. Funny how Intel's CPUs lose to AMDs midrange
@@alexanderjones3830 seems like it
The interesting thing is that why would people buy their higher-end models if they get better value per performance on the low-mid range models. Obviously, the non-techy people are none the wiser so that is the only thing Intel has for them or some models are outfitted with features only available with Intel.
That's exactly what it is, good old Intel "marketing" money (2.1 billion USD)
Old title: *Intel vs AMD for Laptops*
So there are multiple old titles
There A/B testing titles to see which one gets more clicks
Costco has the 15.6" model with 8GB RAM, a 512GB SSD, and a Ryzen 5 4500U for just $599.99. Crazy.
Best buy for 579.99 I bought it there instead! What a deal imo
It's not thin and light at all though like the 13". I have the 2018 version of the 15". Unless they've done something to significantly reduce the weight it's not going to be easy to carry it around at all.
Let me guess: soldered single channel memory? Of which only 6 GB are available.
8 GB are so not worth it, better spend the little extra for 16 GB.
Sander169 Nope. The 15.6” one has sodimm slots.
@@ucian9133 confirmed I just opened mine 😄
Hey man, just to bring to your attention, I bought the envy x360 (India) and got a defective piece, they rejected a replacement when I demanded it in December, ignoring the tilted hinge, problematic headphone jack and other defects. It's been 4 months of use and laptop lags while using chrome. Just CHROME. Now the hinge connector got loose, and it shattered the screen when I was closing the laptop. They're now asking me to pay a price (under warranty under 4 months of use) for a goddamn hinge replacement. Hp customer support sucks (at least in India). Being a student the laptop's price was a premium and now I've to pay more for this. If someone from hp is reading this comment please help me out
You got ryzen or intel?
@@merrium4335 ryzen
Laptops manufactured for the Indian subcontinent are of subpar quality. The models manufactured for the american and European markets have next level build quality and overall performance. Hence the issues you've been facing.
the hinge problems are common bro i was going to buy a used envy and half of them on the market were broken hinges and cracked screens
craziest thing about the battery test is that the spectre had 10 more watt hours. 60 vs 50 for the envy. That is crazy good coming from and efficiency.
so in a spectre notebook we can expect about 16 hours xD. Amd killed the battery life game for intel
if you want intel for laptops, go for apple.
oh wait.
Original title: Should you Even CONSIDER an Intel Laptop?
Intel are pretty good and they make more powerful cpus than your stupid amd processor
Chadia L. Lmfao bro keep talkin
Video:
Chadia L.: iNtEl MaKes mOrE PoWeRfuL CpUs ThAn YoUr sTuPiD AMD
Made Swedish subtitles and submitted them. Surprisingly good translation tools in TH-cam nowadays.
I own one of these with the r7 8core and its incredibly capable even for gaming, the only oversight is that you cant wake it up if its in tablet mode unless you go back to laptop mode bc the keyboard (where the power button is placed) is locked out so you dont accidentally type while handling it. If you have the pen paired to it over bluetooth you can wake it up using the pen buttons but its still somewhat annoying.
It doesn't have power button and volume rockers on the side?
@@dustojnikhummer only on the keyboard, no buttons on the side
a really weird oversight
@@lukasfugner7778 that's funny I have an older one with 2000 series r7 and it has a power button and volume rocker on the side. It has windows hello as well. Just a shame the thermals are awful :/
@@joealex2463 I have the r7 3700u model from last year, still had the side power button and fixed the thermals :P
Actually Acer has a same spec'd comp like the HP one for $512
What's it's name
@@auricx Swift 3.
Just be aware, you can't upgrade the RAM. I have the Ryzen 4700U model with a 16:9 screen. Its a great little laptop, but the 8GB of non upgradable RAM does concern me long-term. Also, the screen is not very bright, but fine in door use. If you're using it outside a lot, you may have issues.
I just bought HP envy x360, 15.6 inch model for $570 on Best Buy. It was $200 cheaper today on sale.
Redmi has a 16" one for $540 dollars too.
@@auricx Acer Laptop Aspire 5 A515-44-R4M5 AMD Ryzen 5 3rd Gen 4500U
14h of battery life
"This is my whole weekend!"
It's great to see you making reviews on budget laptops. Make more videos on cheap(comparatively) and good laptops like this. We trust your reviews and it helps very much. keep it up bro
0:26 that laptop spinning thing, just loved it 💗
Right? That was such a slick way to show it off.
Kind of unexpected, but I like the creativity..
i loved the spinning too... speaking of spinning, lets spin into our segway for our sponsor
2019 was such a bad year for buying laptops, especially intel...
Intel is better than amd
@KorinXploits What?
That depends since Intel is superior in single core performance (not by that much but enough to consider as and option)
Thermals, power draw, multicore and price/performance AMD is clearly better
AMD's scalable platform is nice too though not ideal at all timws
thats because you care about benchmarks
Yea amd is better I'm glad everyone here agrees
@KorinXploits Even on desktop, amd cpu support faster RAM for cheaper.
"Quick! We need b-roll!"
"Get the balls."
5:13
With a name like that, you might be disappointed if it didn't flex.
In the beginning the laptop was upside down. And I (an intellectual) thought that there is a brand called *dq*
Blizzard gaming laptop
Dairy Queen makes Laptops now
It's da quaine computer, with letisha packerd
hp upside down is dy
Dairy Queen has a new laptop production line, don't you know? They really *milked* it for power
I saw the Newegg model with the R7 4700U for 800$. I really love AMD right now. (I still can't afford it but you know, still really nice to see competition!).
A BANANA FOR SCALE???!!! CAN'T THAT GET YOU CANCELLED?
What does cancelled mean?
Nah, only fingering cable management grommets can do that.
@@gofergofrunio6281 It basically means a group of people on the internet will harass, doxx and try to unearth anything that could be seen as bad you have ever done in your life in hopes of ruining you as a person. And if they can't find anything they will usually fake it.
This will go on until at least every single company you worked with has dropped you, and very often continues until you either completely stop having an online presence, or you k*ll yourself.
This comment was made as a joke though, cause in a recent episode of their tech podcast they were talking about erasing their old online posts to prevent "getting cancelled". In going through their old posts they noticed that in one thumbnail they used a banana for scale but with Linus putting it in front of his pants.
There's a variety of shapes and sizes of bananas. At least that's what my mom told me.
Anything can get you cancelled now days if the cancerous following it's big enough
While watching your videos, I couldn’t help but be amazed of how your channel easily cemented itself as a household name here in the Philippines. I mean, nearly most of the TH-cam Tech reviewers in the Philippines knows you and is a big fan yours. Your review has always been concise and easily understandable from a super techy person to a newbie techy person like me. Thank you for always bringing good content. Love from the Philippines. 🇵🇭
I used to work retail. I wonder if those conservative "know it all" dad customers will change their absolutist mindset about Intel being the only option.
I understand you and the responsive is never.
@@Blox117 that's a stretch
From my experience, the only way to beat an absolutist is to use indisputable facts.
"Hi, welcome to PC store"
_I want a laptop with good value, doesn't have to be special_
"try out this mid range AMD model for $700"
_But I want intel. Intel is way better than AMD_
"I'm sorry but time has changed. I can show you benchmarks of performance tests that shows AMD handling intel's ass like a monster, current AMD technology is faster, cheaper, doesnt run as hot as intel, and has longer battery life."
_I don't believe you, you don't know anything if you think AMD is better than intel_
"Sir, no offence but do you work as a computer retailer? Or has any background related to computers?"
_I don't but you do so I expected that you would already know by now that intel is the best thing you can get for laptops in all circumstances_
"then i suggest you ask the same questions to other retailers and prove me that i am wrong"
It wont always work, some absolutist have the Kruger effect but at least they will accept it with a pinch of salt.
_Fine i dont wanna argue with you. Everyone seems to tell the same thing even on stores on the other side of the state, just give me that amd laptop and ill be done here_
1:34 Im hearing Minecraft in the background lol
Well observed 10/10
Omg me too lol
16:10 Aspect Ratio, the Golden Ratio, that was pretty common on monitors in 2010 and is coming back to laptops. I find this really funny for Linus to use as a nitpick.
Yeah mobile workstations used to be 16:10 (eg dell precision m6400). I still wonder why the industry went 16:9 in the first place
@@yuuji_ Laptops used to be 4:3. I still wonder why the industry went 16:9 in the first place. :P
@@chuuni6924 3:2 is the best format.
@@happygimp0 Perhaps, perhaps not, but if the completely unnecessary transition to 16:9 hadn't happened, I'm not sure we'd even be having this conversation. Though with that said, 4:3 has more vertical space than 3:2, hence it is better.
Still waiting for my 21:9 Laptop. Don't laugh.
Sir Asus TUF f505Dt Intel i5 9th Gen Vs Ryzen 5 3550H which is better one ,, and give more battery life ?
You can tell when there is a sponsor because his mood quickly changes
3:57
"they had us in the first half, I'm not gonna lie"
I loooove my envy I got it at a great price with a ryzen 5. I even paid some more to get more ram and an ssd in. The only thing that I didn't like was that the power button on it broke recently. I disassembled the laptop and desoldered and resoldered a new replacement button onto the mother board, good as new.
I have the 2018 model envy x360. The side power button is SO easy to get jammed. I couldn't open it myself because I didn't have a star shaped screw driver. When I took it to Best Buy the guy said he'd seen many similar situations with HP power buttons. I love how far AMD has come with Ryzen mobile cpus but the side power button is enough to stop me from buying another Envy.
@@mr.klunee4103 I don't buy HP anymore duo to too many issues showing up too soon and bad service. The repair shop gay already joked: "Ah, the letters HP stand for "Horrible Products". Love them, they secure my job!"
@@mr.klunee4103 power button is now on the keyboard
@@markododig6209 Great.
Spinfoil Hat Theory: AMD wanted this to be in the Envy to outsell the Spectre’s to then later gain control of the higher tier market.
Not really a theory. They always got stuck with low tier product lines and proving they deserve top teir shells is being more effecient and powerful at the same time. I'm just waiting for anyone else to use a 4900h/hs in a laptop to see how far they really good.
Imagine someone coming here after long and confused why linus is giving voiceover to the guy on the screen
9:35 our sponsor drop.com, Linus' smile says it
Linus retired :(
What does this even mean
He's wondering if this is a deepfake video
I'm glad manufacturers are making more AMD chipset laptops, finally laptops are more cheaper. Now if only the gaming and premium laptops can have more AMD options than Intel ones
7:58 - Banana for scale
I see banana for scale, I upvote.
5:14 When they called that laptop "Flex", they *meant* it.
Love the use of the probe lens lately :D
Glad to see that lens having some use lately!
"This is my whole weekend" hahahaha
2:54 camera guy with his probe lens- "Another one."
They're some beautiful shots
@@supremeoverlordetna Shot does look pretty good. Could be a bit more creative, but he's still probably experimenting around with it. But duuuude. I wish Taran and the camera guy can collab a bit more. I would love to see some nicer transitions besides the basic fade or cut. They're probably completely busy with a lot more projects, but it's definitely a dream of mine.
Am I the only one who likes his laptop screen at 16:9 aspect ratio? hahahahhahaha it is sleeker... Imagine if the laptop has no bezels all throughout like smartphones? It's gonna be so small and handy...
0:28 Yo Linus those balls look interesting. Does it come with RGB?
and 8:50 you can see set of dragon balls
LilDiamondtoxic No, but they do have water cooling options.
Wow I only consider Ryzen laptop due to longer battery life, higher performance
since you are considering ryzen based laptop i recommend that you go with it. Also make sure you have amd's graphics as well.
This video makes me happy. Finally some good ol' competition
Can u possibly do a review on the Lenovo idea pad 5 14/15. For the 15 I don't see many reviews especially of the 4800u model
Linus: Uploads new video
Intel: *ah sh*t here we go again*
I was literally looking at this computer yesterday and I was searching for an ltt review and there wasn’t one. I just checked again and there it was.
Holy shit, this is the first time I've thought about upgrading my laptop. I probably don't need it though...
"In the low prices models"
-Present a 700 dollars laptop
Me: .....
Really, I think that the real average is 500 dollars.
You can't expect much from a $500 machine
Mid range is around $900
I, too, couldn't accept this when I was looking for a laptop.
$580 at Best Buy and Costco in the US
$500 CAD is the cost of a basic desktop, prices may bring that down closer to 400, but in my experience, unless you go with used components, you can expect to pay no less than $300 for the cheapest and most basic desktop (and that's if you're custom building and watching PC part picker closely)
Actually I would define "low price laptop" as under 1000€. 1000- 1500 would be an average laptop and 1500+ premium segment.
Is this laptop any good for running lightroom ? Need a new laptop and occasionally use lightroom to improve my sub par photography 😂
Laughs in HONOR Magicbook 14" (Same configuration, 550$)
I'm in love with those close up shots 😍😍.
In 2014,
INTEL: we have the major market share.
In 2020,
AMD: now, we have the whole market though !
I mean, AMD has like 30% of the total market right ?( Desktop at least)
@@funbrute31 that's just a question of time tho
It takes time, computers are not something people can buy casually
I own the last envy x360 with the ryzen 7 3700U and wanted the new one so much
Given how much we're seeing people asking for AMD laptops, I'm guessing manufacturers will have started designing some by now. When do you think we'll actually start to see some good options being announced?