The Deprogram Episode 34 - Line Goes Down (Ft. Dr. Richard Wolff
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Honestly, I was pretty disappointed they didn't finish with: "This has been The Deprogram; I'm Hakim" "I'm JT" "I'm Yugopnik" "And I'm Richard Wolff."
dr. wolff ?! 🤯🤯🤯 you guys have officially made it big !
Hakim had Dr Wolff on his channel already
Ehh. Yea, it's a big deal and great to have him on. I wouldn't say you made it if managed to though. I feel like I could write him and get a response that would be quite in depth. I've seen him around on other smaller channels. He seems to be very generous with his time as well as being a very effective speaker.
The master speaks, the students listen. This was a brilliant talk (or should I say lecture?).
Also, quite possibly the first time Hakim did not say "fuck" at all?!
I'm an economics student right now and my biggest complaint is that it's often convoluted. Economists love incorporating math into theory in order to legitimize their theories. This makes it look good, it looks like the "correct" thing, but in reality it's mostly just shit. Theories are conjured in the abstract and then justified later by making the math work and then applied later by politicians whose ideology aligns with the theory.
Also, so many graphs.
I feel you, its the same in political science. I hated doing it.
They want to make it a hard science, when it's obviously a social science.
YEA MAN i feel you
Science undergraduate here. Economists drive me nuts with their "theories". At best, they're hypotheses and at worst speculation rationalised with numbers.
@@Aermydach Yea, I get you. Economics is trying to explain the ever-changing economy by comparing it to fixed models/theories. Like putting circle or triangles pegs into a square hole.
Regarding the advice that we as Marxists can give people in these times, I remember watching russian marxist professor of economics, just like Dr.Wolff, Oleg Komolov. He said that in times of uncertainty the best investment you can make is to invest in yourself - take classes, pick up a trade, learn a skill, further your education if you can. This is one investment you won't lose. And I think it resonates really well with what Dr.Wolff also said about studying economics to better explain it to people from marxists perspective.
btw, the guy I mentioned also have a TH-cam channel _Простые Числа_ (Prime Numbers), he speaks English and often gives interviews and visits streams and podcasts, so if you're ever interested in having an extremely based guest from behind the new Iron Curtain, Komolov will be the best choice in my opinion
that sounds logical, investing in capabilities will allow you both to take more opportunities in the future and prepare you for having to pivot your carreer if need be
Thanks for recommending Oleg Komolov. I have been involved in the Marxist sphere for years now but never heard of him.
I say this respectfully but this also sounds like advise Jordan Peterson would give. What about, say, like, organizing?
@@anotherslice2269 Here is the thing about Jordan Peterson, not everything he says is wrong, he is a total moron when it comes to social issues, economics, politics etc. However things like self improvement aren't a bad thing just because Peterson also encourages it. It's a bit of a throwing the baby out with the bathwater situation. Often times people we disagree with also have said things that are ok, but we too often make the mistake of disregarding absolutely anything someone has said that we don't like because of extreme bias, and I say this as someone who can't stand Peterson myself.
@@anotherslice2269 reading your comment while Dr. Wolf was talking about organizing 😁🍻
And yes, I will have another slice with my beer🍕🍺
That pronunciation of "rations" killed me as a person who had been raised in Britain. Also, I love how Dr Wolff talks like we all don't have brains, I guess being an educator will do that to you, it's quite soothing.
especially educator in *United States*
Yeah, love him and all, but the video is better listened at 1.5x speed haha
@@deptusmechanikus7362
Gotta break it down to Lego blocks.🤤
But that's how Wolf reaches to people who knows nothing about this stuff.
To amplify the others, he’s talking to US citizens, who are afflicted by amputation from most US history.
I just LOVE how you can make Dr. Wolff speak for almost 30 minutes, from the history of global capitalism to the complexities of microeconomics and supply chains, with just a single question as simple as _"what's up with inflation right now?"._
Very insignhtful as always.
Meanwhile the right-wing "analysits":
Ohhh it s da jeeeews
NO WAY YOU BROUGHT THE MAN THE LEGEND RICHARD
Big Dick Wolff bout to Deprogram the proletariat
I always find that reference to American war time rations being incredibly ironic because a great deal of fascist Germany's war endeavors in the latter stages of the war were crippled by the Nazi leadership's refusal to restructure their economy from consumer goods to war rations. A capitalist nation implamemting socialist measures helped a socialist nation defeat a fascist nation who depended strictly on capitalism.
Fascism is capitalism, and Amerikkka was de facto allied with Hitler from his rise until Pearl Harbor. Just sayin'.
Socialism always comes in clutch at times of crisis
Is there somewhere we could read more about consumer goods production in the 3rd Reich?
@@jimcrelm9478 I'm sure there is a lot of reading material on it, but I don't have any suggestions at the moment. There are things like the personal diaries of senior officials in the third Reich. My general understanding of the situation is that after key losses in the later stages of the war when it was clear Germany was losing ground; Himler, Speer, and Goebbels were urging Hitler to enact Total War projects that involved allowing women to enter the industrial workforce and the total halting of production of consumer goods like makeup, fashionable clothing, closing of restaurants, ect. Hitler was worried about "losing the homefront" like in ww1, so he was determined to keep the idea of war far from the German domestic core. It wasn't until after battlles like the Battle of the Bulge and Stalingrad, when it was already too late, that he was willing to enact some Total War policies that would restrict production of luxury goods in the domestic sphere. Apparently even then the inner power struggles of the senior nazi officials caused them to constantly work against each other to ensure disorganization in the lines of production because they didn't want any competitor to gain extra favor from Hitler. Apparently Göring refused to help Goebbels and Speer with the Total War project because he was upset his favorite restaurant closed. Martin Bormam joined in just to slow the entire process down with bureaucratic counsels so that no one was able to fo "too good" of a job and threaten his relationship with Hitler. Himler was jealous of Speer for being too close with Hitler, so he refused access to concentration camp labour and factories. The whole internal hierarchy of the Nazi political structure was hell bent on backstabbing and shooting itself in the foot, cutting your ear to spite your face shit, because everyone was in constant competition instead of cooperation and cohesion.
you are promoting political illiteracy when you erroniously label rations as socialism
My jaw just dropped so hard it punched a hole in the floor, this is amazing.
Dr. Wolff, prices have risen faster than wages my entire freaking life in the U.S.A., and I'm oldish.
Thanks to neoliberialism😞
Since the end of the 80s give or take
I like your name
@@ericktellez7632
Well, I hit adulthood in 1990.
So, pretty much.
Before that my parents got to sell a house they just mortgaged in the Ohio Valley and move, b/c Reagan, yay.
It's such a trip to listen to 'western' academics like Wolff rail on about radical anti-capitalist takes in the same kind of voice that his contemporaries would use to describe something mundane.
20 minutes of literal ranting to answer 1 question, I love it
@@danger_design He's a professor, so he's giving us our lecture ☺ I finally realized that lol
57:20 my guy said “read theory” in the most Dr. Richard Wolff way possible.
as a queer, i appreciate dr wolff's attempt at saying lgbt HAHAHAHA
🤣🤙🍻
He's a good boomer, he tried his best. At least he got two or three letters right, no?
@@Ajente02 and he used they pronouns too, honestly, props to him!
same lol, wholesome boomer
I love our Marxist economist New York- accented grampa professor.
Holy hell you actually got Dr.Wolff to participate?!
That's it, I am expecting Žižek to appear in the next episode.
And so on, and so on.
Pure idealism!
@@minhducnguyen9276 either Žižek or Lobster Peterson, I shall not accept anything less
Better would be Jane McAlevey
Zizek is an imperialist and an anti-communist.
You guys should all go down in history as heroes of modern day socialism for all your contributions!
Well, if what needs to be done is done.
If not, there will be no recorded human history to speak of.
@@jokerwick Socialism or barbarism, comrade
@@jokerwick i dont even want to inagine that lol
absolutely amazing episode, didn't know about the guest before, but the speech was deep and profound.
but gotta also remark, the curses and gay jokes to word ratio plummeted to the basement faster than the value of the us dollar
I could listen to Dr. Wolff talk for hours.
And you did!
I could listen to Dr. Wolff lecture all day long! He's so smart, and speaks in common language so that regular folks can understand. I'd love to see economics curricula shifting to include more on alternatives to capitalism, rather than being mostly concerned with how capitalist economics functions.
I'd actually seriously be interested in a series about Modern Economics brokened down for the Socialist
Check out "Unlearning Economics".
I second checking out Unlearning Economics.
Paul Cockshot’s production is balls but his content is S teir
Un ironically one of the best podcasts i have ever heard.
Grest! You got an economist to put his perspective of this issues👏👍
The most ambitious crossover since Avengers endgame
THIS is exactly what I have been waiting for. I can't wait for to hear Wolff talk about the infamous LINE GO DOWN. I love hearing about LINE GO DOWN. I love watching the LINE GO DOWN. I wake up every morning M-F except federal holidays from 9:30am-4:00pm EST, make some popcorn, open the stock market screen on my computer, and then cheer every time the LINE GO DOWN. It is the destiny of the LINE to GO DOWN and I just love watching it happen. The impending death of capitalism, a truly beautiful spectacle unlike any other. A toast... May the LINE forever GO DOWN, may it DO DOWN to ZERO, to NEGATIVE, may the shareholders throw themselves off buildings, may the traders all hang themselves, may capitalism end in a glorious dumpster fire.
Baaaased! Thank you guys for bringing my man Rick on.
The episode we've all been waiting for. Good work Comrades.
Damn, you guys got Dr wolf? Way to go. I'm excited for this one
Many thanks to the Deprogram Gang for this discussion with Richard Wolff!
This in depth podcast awesomely explores the current day issues facing the U.S.A. and the Anglo-sphere, as well as Wolff's outlook and possible solutions.
This will be a great podcast to share in the hopes of radicalising victims of capitalism.
when you have someone like Richard Wolff in front of you you sit and let him talk, you guys nailed it
My weekly dose of Deprogramming
Richard Wolff, the man who helped radicalize me.
OMG cant believe you got richard wolff on fam, i'm so excited
Banger episode!
Banger episode!
This should be titled: "Yale economics proffessor DESTROYS neoliberalism"
I absolutely love how he desvribed capitalist economists as charlatans veiling their simplistic ideas under a mess of convoluted language, and how few people actually "understand economics" even if they pretend they do
I like how this episode was specifically not for the audience. Dr Wolff was most definitely talking directly to you boys, and giving advice about taking the torch for our generation.
Thank you for your life of service, Dr. Wolff.
well, i wasn't expecting this!
its like avengers of socialism
Yikes
_Soviet anthem spontaneously plays_
It’s great you got that legend on.
Next up Yanis Varoufakis? Please?
Not a bad idea!
@@YaBoiHakim I've been working actively with his notion of post-capitalism as technofeudalism based on platforms, and it's surprisingly compelling, even if I don't quite count late capitalism out yet. In the realm of non-state intervention, it has shifted my focus to platform cooperativism as a way to fight this new extraction of surplus value and to intercooperativism as an alternative to markets.
Slavoj Zizek!!!!!
I was skeptical about learning from a guy who looks like Richard Wolff, but, wow, the way he breaks down these topics is remarkable. Best guest yet
I was a bit sceptical of dr wollf before, but this conversation really shows that he knows his stuff. This no-nonsense approach to the economy is refreshing. fantastic episode
Listen to this podcast as a Brit is already painful but Dr. Wolff somehow makes it sting more. Keep up the good work. 👍
Having struggled with converting people myself, id like to add my input to your question.
I am a former red pill guy. I was one of those “if only we has real capitalism” types
Sometimes it just takes time, or repetition. I suffered cognitive dissonance, knowing there were problems with my ideas before finally caving
Sometimes it takes seeing peers who believe other things. A close friend of mine is a communist
Sometimes it take life experiences. You need to suffer to wake up
For me it was all 3.
The Wolff bump!
this guy was awesome on the podcast
God that fucking intro is still such a bop
Holy shit. You got this genius on. Now you guys are totally podcast bros. Cheers.
"Professor, before we start, what's your opinion on homoerotic d**k jokes?"
(sound effect of user leaving channel)
...seriously though, great episode. The other day I was talking to a friend of mine about current economic trends, I'm going to recommend this to him.
Onwards we go comrades.
I adore Dr. Wolff! Thanks comrades!
Putting price on everything just sound so stupid, we are all being thought since born about everything has a price, but rarely anyone questioned this idea.
Imagine scenarios of people from the other world where commune is the common thing come to our society, taking stuff (common practice of commune, people work and share the products they produced) and being arrested because they are not "paying".
Professor Wolff is such a wise guy. Always good to listen to him.
Thank you Professor. Your words are inspiring.
Great guest. I do wish there was more discussion between the boys and Wolff.
This is so, so good.
Thank you for introducing to this gentleman. I will certainly be visiting his channel.
Wages go up 2%, prices go up 10%, rent goes up 40%, the wonderful game of numbers we live in~
1:05:00 exactly. I think that’s the best piece of advice for new students.
I love Proff Wolff! And I found this speech to be particularly uplifting. Hopefully. You guys asked the right questions.
Awesome!!! 👏🙌👏
I jumped seeing the notification! Let's gooo!!!
My hips be swaying to the intro music eerytime
Great show! I would love to hear you guys talk to Pascal Robert about what he calls "the 50 year counter-revolution" of capital against the working class.
This was an awesome episode great work also love professor Wolff he was an awesome guest love his work.
Other than that a great video keep it up👍
And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
And for those who the capitalists refuse to pay workers who are expected and degraded to consume their price hyper-inflated products...
Fantastic!
Absolute blast
this shit is fire fam, let's goooooooooooooo!
Yeah, I actually became interested in economics last year and wanted to learn these concepts. I got into Bitcoin and then found Dr. Wolff, which is how I got into leftism.
Most important video before this incoming collapse
_See also: All Prolekult films_
Greatest Crossover in the History of the Universe.
One of the best episodes of this podcast for sure!
Amazing guest
38:08 No, no, no. It's perfect, you're making the content for us. Please don't stop.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS DAY AAAAAAAAAAAAA
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST
Fantastic EP
This episode slapped 🙏🙏
Ahh I love you guys 🥲
Best Crossover this year
"Sing and fight! Right was the tyrant king who said: 'Beware of a movement that sings!'"- IWW's 1909 Little Red Song Book
whoever thinks they are bad at music is a victim of capitalism; join an org and learn an instrument in addition to/instead of wading through dr. wolff's daunting reading list.
I'm sorry, but does anyone else think this guy sounds like he could be a mafia boss in the prohibition period?
Mr Wolff is a legend.
Nice.
I had a hard time slogging through the episodes in knowing Big Dick Wolff was in episode 34... I'll finish listening to 33 but I just couldn't wait any longer.
you don't have to listen to them in order
How have I not noticed the emergency gun on the wall over Yugopnik.
you guys got Dr. Wolff?? Omgg
Wish we had custom animations for each guest. Just a simple loop representing their likeness would be cool
no way! it’s the government does stuff professor!
I think Dr. Wolff has roasted the Deprogram
I still want to see what a Wolff vs Shapiro debate would look like
I want to see Ben get pissy and impatient while wolff dismantles him
Why would you want that? Nothing will be learned, just a show. Better talk to liberals than to fascists.
My fellow Australians
Yes, it is 1am
Watch the video anyway
YO DR.WOLF
Is this about... C O M M U N I S M ?
😱 O M G OMG OMGGGGG wHaTaBoUt ThE 1000 Brwadzillion Vuvuzela No iPhone No Food
... maybe...😁
I know it has something to do when THE GOVERNMENT DOES A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF 🧐
this is a good one. interesting him on china
That music makes me want to listen to Umm Kulthum
this dude is pretty rad
Interesting analysis of economics by Prof Wolff. Same thing Gary Stevenson has said.
Michael Parenti next
He unfortunately has dementia
InshAllah
Parenti is sadly not able to do interviews anymore.
Better convert to the calypso baptist church, get good at voodoo, and learn to raise the dead..
Feels like hakim yugopnik and jt came unprepared for this one
I would be quite nervous to have someone with decades of experience and knowledge like Dr. Wolf