Luckily C17 967 is now in good hands at the Mary Valley Rattler and is running happily. I volunteer for the Rattler and we have had a few hiccups with 967 but she's still a great runner, we also have a carriage from Beaudesert Rail which is 1416.
This line could of had a future passenger task as new sub divisions going in around Logan Village etc, however a retirement village has been built on top of the formation at the Waterford end, go figure. Plus there's been talk of a rail freight hub at Beaudesert, connecting the Beaudesert branch to said hub with give it resilience with a second connection to Brisbane, the first connection being the Sydney line, surmising that dual gauge would be extended to said Beaudesert hub from Acacia Ridge.
The group that so briefly operated Beaudesert rail had stated in their earlier days that a commuter service to I think Logan Village was proposed by them, but of course in their true form, it revolved around the railways handing them brand-new rail motors on a silver platter. So that never happened. I did not hear of the retirement village shortsightedness decision. Unfortunate.
I think that for Beaudesert the direct buses would be very much faster but there is probably potential for the first few kilometres of the line in from Bethania.
@@tressteleg1 I understand that, but if only Beaudesert Rail weren't such a bad organisation, then none of the problems would have occured in the first place.
The problem was that the company (it was not a railfan club in the usual way) was a group of local business people who wanted a tourist drawcard for the town. It happened to be the railway rather than a waterslide or something else. They had no knowledge about trains, and possibly wanted no advice. All they knew about was getting government grants for tourism purposes. There was also some fight revolving around blocking some person who wanted to join what I suppose was the supporters club which I belonged to. Anyway there is the possibility that maybe the excluded person was behind the bridge fire while killed the line when no more money was forthcoming, of course on top of the derailment.
Everything about it was somewhat amateurish. I forget where the loco went to but I’m sure it is better looked after now by people who know what they are doing.
+Keith Jenkinson It certainly did run a number of weekends previously from Beaudesert to Logan Village but I strongly suspect it was only 3 days Beaudesert to Bethania. It is hard to find much about it on the internet but if you find definite dates for extra days of full line running, I would be happy for them to be posted here. A real pity it failed. I thought QR had been paid to upgrade the whole line. Obviously not.
Wow I remember doing the Beaudesert run. QR were paid to get the entire line in order. The whole operation was an omnishambles. A lot of railfans hated it for many reasons including: tons of federal funding when ARHS-Qld at Rosewood were scraping by; creating their own crappy paint scheme instead of bringing it back to QR-era liveries; filling a carriage with velvet lounges (though in hindsight it was comfortable). I never forget watching them change locos while people were getting on and off the carriages. Total safety fail. And the godawful paint job on Beaudesert station. Beaudesert Rail was a prime example of an great idea run by the wrong people showered with the taxpayers' money.
+Hayden Milligan Hello Hayden. You are welcome to use a link to my video. Thanks for asking. It is only illegal when bits are edited from another person's video and claimed as your own which I don't expect you would want to do. I will look forward to seeing your results of this sad story.
Thanks, its so sad to what happended to the line. I went to school next to a crossing if the line and I'd look out the window thinking it would be cool seeing the trains go by
The thing to remember is that this organisation was NOT a rail fans Museum in the normal sense of the word. It was run by people who wanted it to boost the town’s tourism and did not necessarily have any rail operation experience. Most if not all their fundraising stemmed from lobbing governments for donations.
+villiers man I think it is basically all there but recently work started on a Beaudesert town bypass near the station and that track has been removed. I dare say roadworks here and there may have done the same but overall I don't think the scrap value of rail pays for its removal these days.
There was a story today in an internet newspaper about need for a train to Beaudesert but it was not clear if it should be on the old line or a passenger service on the Standard Gauge line to the west. But don't hold your breath!
From what I heard, a lot of dodgy things were done at Beaudesert rail. I was a member. The thing was not run by fans, it was entrepreneurs using the railway as a tourist attraction for the town. There was no such thing as working bees for the members to participate in.
Yes that's right and is the reason why the derailment occurred since a whole section of track never got the new sleepers, they were floged before the track gang came through.
Train Lover Let’s hope that Mary Valley keeps their act together and does not get shut down again. I can’t remember why they were shut down for certain so had better not guess. But I think it had a fair slice of paid workers as well which may have been some of the problem. I’m sure you could find more on the Internet.
Train Lover I thought so. I rode it once only in 2005. It was a very uncomfortable ride lurching around from sunken rail joint to sunken rail joint. I don’t know why the carriages did not fall to pieces. I’m surprised they were allowed to run at that speed on such a terrible track. I was pleased when the journey ended.
I can’t remember all the details now, but at the time a friend told me that the steamer was not really ready for service, but was used anyway. It should be remembered that BR was never an enthusiast museum- it was a tourism initiative of townspeople who had limited rail operation knowledge but were good at getting government grants.
Beaudesert rail was never a museum operation. The town wanted some attraction to bring in tourists and decided that the dormant rail line would be a good subject. Although they had a membership, I was one, there were never any working bees or anything else that you would expect of a museum type operation. As their sole aim was more visitors to Beaudesert, I dare say they thought the blue looked nice irrespective of its lack of historical reality.
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Luckily C17 967 is now in good hands at the Mary Valley Rattler and is running happily. I volunteer for the Rattler and we have had a few hiccups with 967 but she's still a great runner, we also have a carriage from Beaudesert Rail which is 1416.
ItzDecster I knew that all the rail vehicles found new homes. Hopefully Mary Valley won’t ‘run out of puff’ again as it did for several years.
This line could of had a future passenger task as new sub divisions going in around Logan Village etc, however a retirement village has been built on top of the formation at the Waterford end, go figure. Plus there's been talk of a rail freight hub at Beaudesert, connecting the Beaudesert branch to said hub with give it resilience with a second connection to Brisbane, the first connection being the Sydney line, surmising that dual gauge would be extended to said Beaudesert hub from Acacia Ridge.
The group that so briefly operated Beaudesert rail had stated in their earlier days that a commuter service to I think Logan Village was proposed by them, but of course in their true form, it revolved around the railways handing them brand-new rail motors on a silver platter. So that never happened. I did not hear of the retirement village shortsightedness decision. Unfortunate.
Oh dear, I just wish the people of Beaudesert would get their train back :-(.
I think that for Beaudesert the direct buses would be very much faster but there is probably potential for the first few kilometres of the line in from Bethania.
@@tressteleg1 I understand that, but if only Beaudesert Rail weren't such a bad organisation, then none of the problems would have occured in the first place.
The problem was that the company (it was not a railfan club in the usual way) was a group of local business people who wanted a tourist drawcard for the town. It happened to be the railway rather than a waterslide or something else.
They had no knowledge about trains, and possibly wanted no advice. All they knew about was getting government grants for tourism purposes. There was also some fight revolving around blocking some person who wanted to join what I suppose was the supporters club which I belonged to. Anyway there is the possibility that maybe the excluded person was behind the bridge fire while killed the line when no more money was forthcoming, of course on top of the derailment.
Never even heard of this railway till this vidio this vidio is gold hahaha! That steam loco needed some work by the sound of it hahaha!
Everything about it was somewhat amateurish. I forget where the loco went to but I’m sure it is better looked after now by people who know what they are doing.
First scene is Dairy Creek Road, Buccan. Second is just after Old Logan Village Road, Waterford.
Rail Town Productions OK
No it ran more than just three days. I recall sitting in my office by the tracks on several weekends and hearing the train pass.
+Keith Jenkinson
It certainly did run a number of weekends previously from Beaudesert to Logan Village but I strongly suspect it was only 3 days Beaudesert to Bethania. It is hard to find much about it on the internet but if you find definite dates for extra days of full line running, I would be happy for them to be posted here. A real pity it failed. I thought QR had been paid to upgrade the whole line. Obviously not.
Wow I remember doing the Beaudesert run. QR were paid to get the entire line in order. The whole operation was an omnishambles. A lot of railfans hated it for many reasons including: tons of federal funding when ARHS-Qld at Rosewood were scraping by; creating their own crappy paint scheme instead of bringing it back to QR-era liveries; filling a carriage with velvet lounges (though in hindsight it was comfortable). I never forget watching them change locos while people were getting on and off the carriages. Total safety fail. And the godawful paint job on Beaudesert station. Beaudesert Rail was a prime example of an great idea run by the wrong people showered with the taxpayers' money.
Hi @tressteleg1 im going to do a video around the old tracks I was wondering if I could use your video to show people what it was like??
+Hayden Milligan
Hello Hayden. You are welcome to use a link to my video. Thanks for asking. It is only illegal when bits are edited from another person's video and claimed as your own which I don't expect you would want to do. I will look forward to seeing your results of this sad story.
Thanks, its so sad to what happended to the line. I went to school next to a crossing if the line and I'd look out the window thinking it would be cool seeing the trains go by
There were quite a few lawsuits over material goods not being paid for. Also, the carriages were fairly butchered from original QR specifications.
The thing to remember is that this organisation was NOT a rail fans Museum in the normal sense of the word. It was run by people who wanted it to boost the town’s tourism and did not necessarily have any rail operation experience. Most if not all their fundraising stemmed from lobbing governments for donations.
so is the line still there or did they rip it up?
+villiers man
I think it is basically all there but recently work started on a Beaudesert town bypass near the station and that track has been removed. I dare say roadworks here and there may have done the same but overall I don't think the scrap value of rail pays for its removal these days.
yeh not much money in scrap its a shame parts are gone it would be nice to see more line like this preserved
There was a story today in an internet newspaper about need for a train to Beaudesert but it was not clear if it should be on the old line or a passenger service on the Standard Gauge line to the west. But don't hold your breath!
yeh you mite go blue in the face waiting for an answer from the gov on that one
villiers man some parts of the track are still able to see like a crossing on camp cable road or a station at a roundabout
That C17 had some very dodgy things done to it to make it go.
From what I heard, a lot of dodgy things were done at Beaudesert rail. I was a member. The thing was not run by fans, it was entrepreneurs using the railway as a tourist attraction for the town. There was no such thing as working bees for the members to participate in.
Darcy Petersen what dodgy things did they use to make the train go
@@trainlover1474 probably a boiler cirtificate for one lol by the sound of the motion that steam loco needed a heavy overhaul! Geez.
What happened to the diesel at the back of the train did it get scrapped or preserved
I think the steamer went to Zig Zag, maybe the diesel also but a Google search is sure to tell you.
tressteleg1 the steamer is at the Mary valley rattler
OK. I knew the steamer went to some museum.
The diesel is now at cairns kuranda railway and steam and is operational
@@tressteleg1the c17 it's at the Mary valley rattler now
Still got sleepers off that line
it was a joke back then as people were knocking off new wooden sleepers
for their personal use?
+Canis Major
Possibly true bit probably not before,the trains stopped running, I would think.
NO! it was in the railway digest back then which i have the
magazine jan-dec 2003
Yes that's right and is the reason why the derailment occurred since a whole section of track never got the new sleepers, they were floged before the track gang came through.
at 13.25 mins was that Beaudesert ?
0011clem
Sure was, as clearly written on the screen at 12:57
yeah ok. I missed that bit . I was busy looking for the platform sign.
Good video, just get rid of the diesel at back!
Thank god 967 is at the Mary valley rattler that’s ran by volunteers
Train Lover Let’s hope that Mary Valley keeps their act together and does not get shut down again. I can’t remember why they were shut down for certain so had better not guess. But I think it had a fair slice of paid workers as well which may have been some of the problem. I’m sure you could find more on the Internet.
tressteleg1 the Mary rattler got shut back in 2012 due to safety concerns with the rolling stock and track
Train Lover I thought so. I rode it once only in 2005. It was a very uncomfortable ride lurching around from sunken rail joint to sunken rail joint. I don’t know why the carriages did not fall to pieces. I’m surprised they were allowed to run at that speed on such a terrible track. I was pleased when the journey ended.
tressteleg1 it’s a good thing the rattler only runs to amamoor now
Train Lover I forget where we ran to but there was a turntable at the end of the line.
Have you seen my video ‘ Mary Valley Railway pineapple train’?
967 doesn't sound to healthy in this video
I can’t remember all the details now, but at the time a friend told me that the steamer was not really ready for service, but was used anyway.
It should be remembered that BR was never an enthusiast museum- it was a tourism initiative of townspeople who had limited rail operation knowledge but were good at getting government grants.
I don’t like how the locos are painted in such bad colours and not QR liveries just hideous
Beaudesert rail was never a museum operation. The town wanted some attraction to bring in tourists and decided that the dormant rail line would be a good subject. Although they had a membership, I was one, there were never any working bees or anything else that you would expect of a museum type operation. As their sole aim was more visitors to Beaudesert, I dare say they thought the blue looked nice irrespective of its lack of historical reality.