Sima Yi knows that it is an empty city. He deliberately counts. Because he knows that once he kills Kong Ming, he has no use value in Wei Guo, and he will be killed by Cao Rui and other Cao's family rooms, so he wants to keep Kong Ming, so as not to fall to the end of the rabbit dead dog cooking. On the other hand, Kong Ming also knows that Sima Yi also understands the truth of this political existence, so everyone has the heart to do this play in front of the three army to the outsiders. If you really understand the political mystery, there are only two of them, so this is the solution of the companion.
@victorhng you're right that they rushed the scenes (many scenes) but they also extend too long for some scenes , they rushed some of important scenes that should be give more of the expression for the character's and relationship such as for example of Liang remind Guan Yu keep Jingzhou, the old version did superb performance expression between zhuge liang to Guan Yu as Liang know Guan Yu 's fate so he keep remind with very worry and care to Guan Yu. But the new version of expression drop
@victorhng this version was also got big budget. but it concentrate about the photography and CG more than the shooting as the natural which this cause many places look so fake and unreal. you can also see in this scene and especially the guqin is not the same at last. the emotional in this scene was totally made the feeling drop. you can listen to the song as Liang played and then see Liang's expression face in this scene, it was totally unmatched at all.
@svlina yea but in old scene it was raining so it did not show star falling. in the new one there seems to be internal conflict going on between liu bei brothers and kongming. almost like a sibling rivalry. like in one scene in new where zhang fei yells at liang for being coward for not send troops to rescue liu bei when he was married to sun quan sister in dong wu. almost look like he was about to cry lol
@akacurry This scene even straight from the book, the old version also have to created the screenplay and the performance to match the scene and the feeling of performance is well match the scene ,Simayi also play opposite as well with the superb conversation. But this scene in new version, Zhuge Liang have no feeling match when play gu qin at all . Is this performance can say better than the old version????? I don't think so
@svlina lol i didnt notice u wrote 2 comments. yea the character portrayals were so inaccurate it was like a parallel universe soap opera. original kongming was a real strategist. inaccurate scenes such as zhou yu's argument with sun quan over authority to sima yi getting married near the end is jus lame imo. also sima yi always walks with both his sons and sun quan early appearance as child is also inaccurate
@victorhng yeah.the old version was rainning in that chapter but the new version scene of watching star falling was also good. New3 the point of conflict between LB brothers and Liang ,in my opinion those factors was very waste of screenplay. It is different feeling between New and old version. In the old version the relation between Liang with Guan Yu, Zhang Fei was also good in later on , Liang knew their behavior so he advise them for improvement, this point Liang also care to handle.
Without 空城計, Japanese hitory would have been changed.And tokyo would not have been chapital.Takeda Shingen almost wiped out Tokugawa Ieyasu. Ieyasu standed up in front of castle.But Shingen thought many army was in castle and stopped wiping out Ieyasu.In fact there was not army in castle.
@victorhng if you see 2 version and compare Liang remind Guan Yu keep Jingzhou scene, you will understand what's I say ,New three have some good scene when Liang's saw the star falling (which this was not show in the old version) but later on the feeling was drop because they rushed the conversation and performance of Liang advise to Guan yu was not give the feeling of care at all, look like the commander more than adviser which this was not worth description this chapter in finally.
史上最大萬人免費古箏獨奏發表會
演奏者:孔明
參加者:鐵粉司馬懿與15萬粉絲
史上最失敗的獨奏發表會
還沒奏完人就跑光了
so yo 因為司馬老鐵覺得免費的必定有詐 可能聽完會被迫課金 所以帶眾人先跑了
古琴 非 古箏
so yo 琴弦好断了
免錢的最貴
司馬懿是知道裏面是空城,他是故意中計的。因為他深知一但他殺了孔明,他在魏國就沒有利用價值,必被曹叡等曹氏親室所殺,所以他要留着孔明,免得淪落到兔死狗烹的下場。而另一方面,孔明也深知司馬懿也明白這個政治生存的道理,於是大家心有靈犀地在三軍面前做這台戲給局外人看。真正明白其中政治奧妙的,就只有他們二人,所以此乃知音就今解。
你也明白呀
我聽人講先知,初頭無諗到今深。
+李老二 道理跟諸葛亮在華容道故意放走曹操一樣
因為曹操一死 諸葛亮的三分天下策略基本上就廢了
而孫吳會獨大再把劉備滅掉
+李老二 , li Lao Yee . Well said ! Thanks .
你是一個聰明人,你發現了當中的奧妙。😄
有韓信的前車之鑑,司馬懿聽出了弦外之音,此乃空城計的精華所在,雖正史並無記載,但故事發人深省,最大的敵人可能是自己的保命符。
この"諸葛亮"は本当に格好良い。
三国志は日本でも人気があります。
私は"趙雲"が好きです。
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This "Zhuge Liang" very cool.
Three Kingdoms is popular in Japan.
I like "Zhao Yun".
这一部分的演绎没有老三国那么精妙,老三国这一段诸葛琴弦崩绝的那一刹那,堪称惊心动魄!
这么多人说诸葛亮可以淡定的弹琴。我觉得扫地开城门的卡拉松更牛逼 面对大军 还可以不动于衷的扫地。
那是因为片酬高
I love Chinese history especially three kingdoms era , kong ming is my favorite character at all . Respect from Arabian peninsula 0>
Just a story book not actual history
你给我脸 我也给你脸 大家演一场戏 回去好跟老板交代😂
諸葛亮と司馬懿はほんとに相思相愛だな
相愛相殺
笑死
看不懂日文但應該知道意思
(天地之間第一人 三次拜訪終於肯 神機妙算蜀國臣 馬懿實在太天真 諸葛先生那是神 惹的馬懿跺腳憤 氣得曹操滿肚恨 未知諸葛先生墳)
諸葛亮空城計,真正的深意,總算有人懂,活著,值。
舊版的諸葛亮在弄險的狀況下, 除了冷靜沉著焚香操琴, 還在琴音中傳達出隱隱殺氣, 這招還真只有對上自以為很懂孔明的司馬懿有效, 如果是其它魏將就直接攻城了....但新版的取消了琴音中有隱隱殺氣的描述
其實根本不是你想的這樣
諸葛亮空城其實根本沒有嚇到司馬懿,而且司馬懿是故意放了諸葛亮的。你是看什麼三國的?你完全不理解當中的內涵。
你是想說 狡兔死 走狗烹吧...諸葛亮要是死了 司馬懿就沒利用價值了 是吧...
這些論點後人評過 但這都是野史...野史把諸葛孔明神化了 不僅 空城計 不是他擺的 連赤壁之戰 也沒他= =
嘴賤無敵 水清無魚,俊燁朱,俊燁朱,人家说舊版新版比对!
阿璃 對比起來有意思?只不過是一部電視劇而已
我從他的琴聲聽得出他懂得我的心聲!!噗 哈哈哈
電影赤壁中諸葛亮跟周瑜彈琴=談判, 更強~
这个是越光宝盒吧?😂
要不是戰爭
他們一定會成為很好的朋友
別人:(分享心得)
我:醬醬 AH CHIKI CHIKI 棒棒(跳起來ww
派對咖孔明萬歲!!!🤣
司馬懿の俳優さんは、声もまた容姿、演技と同じく一癖も二癖もある怪人を表現していていいね。日本の声優さんもこの名優同様に素晴らしいんだよな。
可見信用、人格...真的有不可思議的力量...🌞😊
實則虛之 虛則實之
聰明是不會注意眼前
这諸葛亮弹的琴声很好听~~~
i love it !!!
空城の計で司馬懿を退けた諸葛亮もすごいが
ここに諸葛亮が来ると踏んで攻め入った司馬穀もすごい!
2人とも天下の鬼才
Well this is not real history... but yes they are both really intelligent
司馬懿は孔明を殺すと自らも窮地に追い込まれるのがわかっててわざと逃がしたんじゃないの。
赤壁の曹操と同じ。
それがわからない愚かな呂蒙は毒殺された。
敵なら常に殺して良い訳じゃない。
中川圭一 わかってる人👍
司马穀。。。
(天地之間第一人 三次拜訪終於肯 神機妙算蜀國臣 馬懿實在太天真 諸葛先生那是神 惹的馬懿跺腳憤 氣得曹操滿肚恨 未知諸葛先生墳)
有人話舊版諸葛亮那氣定神閒演得更好
先不說諸葛亮的空城計是虛構,早失街亭一定是意料之外,坐在城上撫琴的諸葛亮可是無十足把握空城計乃無計之計,不慎便要亡國亡身,演這逼上梁山計我認為這諸葛亮是演得很到位很使人共鳴
孔明 仲達 這兩人是英雄惜英雄最好的例子
曹操是個非常具有智慧的王者、謀略家、軍事家
丞相祠堂何處尋?錦官城外柏森森。
映階碧草自春色,隔葉黃鸝空好音。
三顧頻繁天下計,兩朝開濟老臣心。
出師未捷身先死,長使英雄淚滿襟。
諸葛亮當時脈膊都破120了吧- -"精采
車擾凡心,實為空城計,君不在其左。
怎么弹潇湘水云?还是老版的卧龙吟好听。
司馬哥哥又來啦包廂給您安排好了已經
如果不是戰亂,諸葛亮和司馬懿一定是一對好基友!
是啊,亂世害了他們不能成為好基友。😄
+俊燁朱 今世相会,看你们优似二人,不仿再续前缘,实现心中念想
老师又给我们看 这是看了第二次
你把周瑜這小騷貨放哪裡了
龐統呢XD 鳳鶵也不是叫假的
這世界總算有人懂我。活著,值
三國演義確實好看,幾年前看過舊版的之後,再看這新版相較之下,畫面上新版勝出了,但是不知為何總覺得舊版的在台詞用字上似乎更加有神韻。
奇怪距離這麼遠也聽得到琴聲? 用麥克風?
@CharlieHuangVEVO
空城計是虛構
三國志正史並沒有這一段喔
Sima Yi knows that it is an empty city. He deliberately counts. Because he knows that once he kills Kong Ming, he has no use value in Wei Guo, and he will be killed by Cao Rui and other Cao's family rooms, so he wants to keep Kong Ming, so as not to fall to the end of the rabbit dead dog cooking. On the other hand, Kong Ming also knows that Sima Yi also understands the truth of this political existence, so everyone has the heart to do this play in front of the three army to the outsiders. If you really understand the political mystery, there are only two of them, so this is the solution of the companion.
@victorhng you're right that they rushed the scenes (many scenes) but they also extend too long for some scenes , they rushed some of important scenes that should be give more of the expression for the character's and relationship such as for example of Liang remind Guan Yu keep Jingzhou, the old version did superb performance expression between zhuge liang to Guan Yu as Liang know Guan Yu 's fate so he keep remind with very worry and care to Guan Yu. But the new version of expression drop
孔明琴奏「流水」,只要知音的仲達聽出一點塞滯不清就完了。魏兵退後還斷絃,跟謝安得到淝水報捷踢斷木屐根本兩樣情。
新與舊都各有特色! 新版的導演只是將诸葛亮更人性化!
asalamualakum
parapendudukhadirinsekalian
sekian terima kasih umum rasmi
我最喜欢的一出戏,陆毅好可爱,哈哈
其實曹叡那時候早就想要把司馬懿給趕下來,甚至殺之,所以司馬懿明白-兔死狗烹,孔明如死他也必死之道理,而且在加上孔明並非省油的燈,只要孔明沒死,他總有一天一定還會被重用,只是時間的問題。(因為他深信,整個魏國只有他才有辦法對付孔明)
不得不說舊三國的孔明演技很好 但說真的外型跟我心目中的"諸葛亮"卻搭不上邊~我還是喜歡陸毅版的孔明~它讓一切都變的合理 真的有演出仙風道骨 風流倜儻的感覺
怎說演技好
I love you yu
旧版四大名著很注重对原著的还原,很多台词就是三国演义里的原文。唐国强演技还是吊打现在的这些三国中的诸葛亮的,台词功底真的深厚。而且诸葛亮在原文里也是高大威猛,陆毅长得太小了。
來我房間我演給你看
(天地之間第一人 三次拜訪終於肯 神機妙算蜀國臣 馬懿實在太天真 諸葛先生那是神 惹的馬懿跺腳憤 氣得曹操滿肚恨 未知諸葛先生墳)
司马懿是故意諸葛亮,真的把諸葛亮抓了,司馬懿的死期也就到了。
你也知道了?
HFFYH DIFFICLT 有個成語叫養寇自重,諸葛亮還沒死就奪他兵權,要是死了還不滅他九族。
+HFFYH DIFFICLT 後人有分析
双方心照不宣,其实都知道。
Stevens Cheng 这个是历史虚构的情节 都能被你们分析出阴谋来 唉
明知空屋;夜裏無燈火,請君入,卻有膽怯心。更何況是戰場?
1300年の時を超えて、日本で家康が信玄に空城計を図った。
@victorhng this version was also got big budget. but it concentrate about the photography and CG more than the shooting as the natural which this cause many places look so fake and unreal. you can also see in this scene and especially the guqin is not the same at last.
the emotional in this scene was totally made the feeling drop. you can listen to the song as Liang played and then see Liang's expression face in this scene, it was totally unmatched at all.
別用結果論!
沒穩賺不賠的事,但總有較高勝算可取!
無論孔明或司馬懿,都是這樣考慮。
孔明知對手而臨危不亂冒險,仲達識對手而穩健原則堅守!
這些各有千秋!各有所學!
@GeeKayTheEmperor
小時候聽這故事,就覺得納悶,司馬懿兵這麼多,怎麼就沒想到先派一半人進去探探虛實.
趙雲的那個叫空營計...
那時打漢中,
救了黃忠以後,
曹兵來犯,
他就揠棋息鼓,
自己單騎守在陣前,
讓曹軍以為有伏而退。
99169QQ大大 : 我想問一下 您敘述的是 三國志(正史)?還是 三國演義(野史)?
我記得 空城計 跟 關羽華容道釋曹操 都是三國演義 神話出來的!
而你敘述到後面的 (司馬懿不是笨旦, 不然不會有晉國的出現) 變成正史!
野史跳正史 讓我感覺蠻奇怪的!
掃地兵:掃了幾個版本,都沒垃圾呀,丞相!
掃地僧:掃了幾個版本,還是只有幾分鐘劇情,卻留下金庸迷無限話題!
这位演诸葛亮的演员可演得以开心一点。诸葛亮是智者不是忧郁患者
原来三国以有诸葛亮的歌厅秀
@thegreatman1990 根據歷史和地理,當時的城池與戰場位置相距好遠好遠,呢個空城計只不過系三國演義作者的一個橋段,空城計並非諸葛亮的計謀,就如草船借箭乃是孫權的一次巧合而發生,而時間是赤壁之前的事。不過是作者為令諸葛亮的角色更為神奇而設的橋段。
諸葛孔明ㄧ生謹慎不走險棋.會唱空城計.是當時被迫無奈而終其一生唯一一次的鋌而走險.司馬懿為何不大軍殺入來個歷史定位.是因為深知諸葛用兵謹慎小心從不虛張聲勢.這空城計唱出了諸葛亮在當時的無奈膽大.唱出了司馬懿 的謹慎小心穩扎穩打....本人只可說諸葛與司馬可說是棋逢敵手.旗鼓相當的用兵翹楚....
看来还是司马懿技高一筹! 诸葛亮就是在赌…而司马懿掌控全局…输赢已看淡…感觉司马懿下了好大一盘棋…
两人实际同一级别!
只是感觉司马懿明知道是空城!故意说给孔明听…
你让司马懿去北伐,,诸葛亮守家看司马懿是否能打过?
@svlina yea but in old scene it was raining so it did not show star falling. in the new one there seems to be internal conflict going on between liu bei brothers and kongming. almost like a sibling rivalry. like in one scene in new where zhang fei yells at liang for being coward for not send troops to rescue liu bei when he was married to sun quan sister in dong wu. almost look like he was about to cry lol
hư hư thực thực thực thực hư hư ,thuật đánh trân của Gia Cát thật hay ,
昭兒,你父親我熟知音律,裡面必有埋伏
冷淡熊嗎😂😂😂😂
舊版的刻畫深多了,從城下的互相猜忌到司馬懿聽曲試心,尤其是琴弦一斷,一瞬間的沉默後,大軍立撤,彷彿將觀眾的心弦也和司馬懿繫在一起,新版什麼都沒講就傻傻撤了,台詞也俗的可以,根本比不上
Leo Liu 老版台词:“这铮铮之音如惊涛拍岸,风卷残云,指端似有熊兵百万。”
新版台词:“快撤!撤晚了山中伏兵就杀出来了。”
聽完你説的看了一下舊版,我怎麼覺得和你看的不是同一個版本?難道所有東西都是舊的特別香?
@@Jay-u7e6i 旧的确实好
沒想到呢,聽來挺合理的
派對咖孔明 OP
司马师:父亲,诸葛亮原来只有两千老弱残兵,我们中计了,很是丢脸。
司马懿:儿阿,这不算什么,以后我还要在他面前穿女人的衣服表演,还有他的一个雕像就吓得我下令全军逃跑,所以现在的还只是开胃菜!
司马师:父亲,我从未看过如此厚颜无耻之人,王朗连替你提鞋都不配
司马懿:重点是最后是我赢了
可以拍幻想三國.諸葛亮征服整個華北的攻略戰.
(天地之間第一人 三次拜訪終於肯 神機妙算蜀國臣 馬懿實在太天真 諸葛先生那是神 惹的馬懿跺腳憤 氣得曹操滿肚恨 未知諸葛先生墳)
我有看過留言說舊版這一段拍的比較好。
相隔那麼遠還可以聽到琴聲嗎?
山中自有回音
古人说的知音:原来是指知己知彼百战不殆的含义,却是知音😄!古人所指的知音却是了解彼此之间的套路!也就是说....:相互理解相互了解,乃是知音呀!😄。
琴擾帥心,心理計。
嗯... 就我所知, 諸葛亮北伐之時, 曹操好像已經死了很多年了, 所以當時司馬懿應該沒有 "如果他殺了諸葛亮, 曹操這樣多疑的人肯定會除掉他" 這個問題。
我是覺得, 當時司馬懿已佔街亭, 勝局已定, 之後卻不對諸葛亮趕盡殺絕, 最主要原因應該只是單純求穩, 畢竟當時司馬懿的主要任務是逼退諸葛亮即可, 所以他不需要冒險全力追擊諸葛亮。不過, 我也同意, 司馬懿當時之所以不打垮諸葛亮, 有一部分目的也有可能真的是為了 "養寇自重"。畢竟當時司馬懿沒多久前才剛遭貶官, 還因此幾乎要陷入萬劫不復, 若不是曹魏為了對抗來犯的諸葛亮被逼得必須再次起用他, 不然他還不知何時才能翻身。站在司馬懿的立場, 曹魏當時是不得以才讓他東山再起, 若他當時早早就打垮諸葛亮, 那麼只怕他真的可能很快就要面臨兔死狗烹的命運。所以站在司馬懿當時的立場, 他雖然不能輸給諸葛亮, 但也不宜太早打垮諸葛亮, 而必須 "得饒人處且饒人" 地在有限範圍內讓諸葛亮全身而退, 以間接逼著曹魏必須繼續留用他。
@akacurry This scene even straight from the book, the old version also have to created the screenplay and the performance to match the scene and the feeling of performance is well match the scene ,Simayi also play opposite as well with the superb conversation. But this scene in new version, Zhuge Liang have no feeling match when play gu qin at all . Is this performance can say better than the old version????? I don't think so
人心的博弈啊,精彩,中国古人太有趣了
(天地之間第一人 三次拜訪終於肯 神機妙算蜀國臣 馬懿實在太天真 諸葛先生那是神 惹的馬懿跺腳憤 氣得曹操滿肚恨 未知諸葛先生墳)
原來如此!
@svlina lol i didnt notice u wrote 2 comments. yea the character portrayals were so inaccurate it was like a parallel universe soap opera. original kongming was a real strategist. inaccurate scenes such as zhou yu's argument with sun quan over authority to sima yi getting married near the end is jus lame imo. also sima yi always walks with both his sons and sun quan early appearance as child is also inaccurate
十年树木,百年树人。人才又不是一天就能培养成的。古代的社会中心是在北方。南方很多还是开发不久的地方 人才也没北方这么多的 而且蜀中那时候都很多像孟获这种部族首领,只有蛮力但是不懂兵法 怎么能当大用
這首配樂是什麼?
@victorhng yeah.the old version was rainning in that chapter but the new version scene of watching star falling was also good. New3 the point of conflict between LB brothers and Liang ,in my opinion those factors was very waste of screenplay. It is different feeling between New and old version. In the old version the relation between Liang with Guan Yu, Zhang Fei was also good in later on , Liang knew their behavior so he advise them for improvement, this point Liang also care to handle.
真正老謀深算者.司馬懿.......!
諸葛亮:我好驚呀
如果諸葛亮晚一點出山。或許情況不一樣了
大哥... 空城計正史上無載也 如諸葛亮真樓上拂琴 仲達不會叫弓箭手把他射下來嗎? "關羽華容道釋曹操"也是子虛烏有...
you'd think they put some armor on zhong da, at first i couldn't tell
對方又不是用偷襲的,所以用這招肯定是沒人在裡面,所以不合理
孔明的空城計,彈琴暗示著司馬我兩演戲吧。
2千幾年前孔明就己經可以上知天文下知地理還識奇門遁甲真的是神一般的存在啊
而且這 始終是 "電視劇" 不用太在意原著~如果不想看~ 那就去看書就好
不用在那邊比較誰演的比較好 每個人的喜好跟觀感本來就不同~
應該給予互相尊重跟體諒的空間 電視劇~認真你就輸囉!
不評論新版的演的如何 不過舊版的諸葛村夫與司馬老兒 演的很棒 很傳神 我從小看到老 還是意猶未盡
卧龙先生早算准司马懿绝对绝对不敢杀他的。哈哈。
Without 空城計, Japanese hitory would have
been changed.And tokyo would not have been chapital.Takeda Shingen almost wiped
out Tokugawa Ieyasu. Ieyasu standed up
in front of castle.But Shingen thought
many army was in castle and stopped wiping out Ieyasu.In fact there was not
army in castle.
蒼天都助你了,若真的攻打諸葛亮,你的大都督也不保了....
好比在玩德州扑克的时候,一直很保守,突然来个虚张声势
唱雙簧,十萬軍來聽演奏會
孔明、辛苦了!
可是前军都是战骑/突袭队。应该没有弓箭吧。。。
說道也沒錯
@victorhng
if you see 2 version and compare Liang remind Guan Yu keep Jingzhou scene, you will understand what's I say ,New three have some good scene when Liang's saw the star falling (which this was not show in the old version) but later on the feeling was drop because they rushed the conversation and performance of Liang advise to Guan yu was not give the feeling of care at all, look like the commander more than adviser which this was not worth description this chapter in finally.
正是知道孔明從不行險,如今城門大開,司馬懿才看出諸葛亮真的窮途末路了
諸葛亮早就料到 司馬大軍不會進來而故意放水。。 要是預測到司馬大軍會進來 早就城中派人 設伏兵 等司馬大軍攻進來 引火燒盡
找人入去偵查一下就可以,用亂箭射死他不就可以,聰明點圍而不攻更可以
空城 欢迎你 为你开天辟地 ~~~
司马懿以为自己在第五层,然而诸葛亮在第一层,这波是三国夹心千层饼了。
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