Lol, they're five dollar cars at Target and Walmart in the kiddie aisle You get what you pay for. These are meant for the younger fans. Not full-grown adults trying to be serious collectors. That's what the online stuff is for. The hundred dollar models. Not toy cars.
@@kubeanie18 some people dont always have the luxury of going to the track or online and buying the better ones there all the time, that's what the authentics line is for
I quit buying Lionel NASCAR diecast as a whole really. Not cause of the whole PTC mold thing. But cause my local stores just don't wanna order new stock. I blame that Walmart exclusive Daytona 500 wave in 2019. It pegwarmed for eternity it seemed. Then my local Walmart just refused to order new stuff. Then finally found something new in 2021 wave 13. Going 2.5 years with my local Walmart refusing to order new stock, it took me out of collecting. But Ebay brought me back in with all the old stuff I've found. I did find 2022 wave 3 and 1 of the Walmart test wave cars. But I just don't hunt anymore.
As he said in the wave 6 review, they ain't even worth 5-6 bucks, 99cents at maximum. With the kind of quality they have, you'd think these would be cheaply made promos
Im quitting Authentics as well. Not dealing with crap anymore. People on twitter that tell me it’s 5 bucks don’t realize that quality control isn’t worth for shelling out 5-6 bucks for a piece of crap that’s going to fall apart in 2.9 seconds
@@MoltenRage41 That is true, you have a point. BUT, the point of nascar authentics is to give us mostly the same car, but without certain things like black interiors and window banners that's it. It should be the same mold at least, and it has always been. Even though they say the line is for little kids, it's for kids and people, like us, who dont always have the luxury to go online or the track all the time and get the full versioms, but we'd still be getting somewhat the same exact car in terms of how it feels, mold wise. I get they have to rush it, but that example should be the bare minimum, not another whole mold and say it's cheaper so that's that and we have to deal with it. That's just in my opinion, however, I'm not trying to change yours. Luckily, as you said however, they are cheap, so that's at least a good thing.
@@sugarrushnascarman1886 that is correct and I agree with that I just think throwing a fit on Twitter doesn't really make anyone look good actually kind of makes the community look like children which honestly I don't agree with.
@@LSTNSCRFN Criticism thrown at lionel this way because it's happened more than once, that's why the collectors are basically losing their minds, taking advantage on a cheaper route isnt gonna happen much anymore if this continues.
In the last 6 months i have seen quality go to crap, orders backed up and on top of that I have had nothing but rude service from Circle B and Plan B .. im done dude
my opinion on these Harrison Burton I really like that it's more dark Martin Truex Too much red not enough orange Kyle Busch love it I love that the number Is white on top instead of red it's good to have both versions 1 with red 1 without
This is why Im very selective when buying NASCAR diecast nowadays...Lionel doesn't give a crap on what they put out. It's sad because Ive collected for about 22 years now and seen and collected during the best of times but now my interest has dwindled. I really want Autoworld to step in. The quality for the NHRA cars is spot on.
But, at least these were bonus waves, and were probably more for inventory clearance, as he stated in the wave 6 2022 video. Since the wave 12 2018, an official wave, mind you, that's when the train rolls off the rails here
I guess the issue is most people that buy these are collectors and collectors notice EVERY detail. I personally wouldn't notice but I wouldn't pay $6 for a car either. Looks like they misjudged their audience for a quick buck but it is going to hurt their long term buck and credibility!
UGGGH WHY LIONEL WHY HARRISON BERTON IN THE WAVE WHY I BEEN COLLECTING NASCAR DIECAST SINCE 2019 Lewis Hamilton: I don't get it guys I just don't get it
If these were dollar store exclusives, big brain idea, as these cars at least still look put together somewhat, and are still play with able, and would look decent for 99c.
Just seeing this now. Words can't describe how pathetic this wave is. The quality control from Lionel is abysmal. And then they have the NERVE to tweet, "Boys and girls. Please. The mold is new for the Next Gen from the one you didn’t like on the previous generation car. These cars look different from the previous cars, right? Let’s pump the brakes and enjoy this much-anticipated wave." Are you serious? This is the same company that didn't have Next-Gen cars out until July. It's November now and we're only on Wave 4. I think I'm done with Authentics for the foreseeable future as well.
I like nascar for the cars, im that guy who likes to watch more of the testing of the cars, watching the tech on them, and sometimes tune when they race the circuits, i get a little bored when they are racing on the normal oval track they are mainly racing, once these next gen cars hit, i got into collecting them pretty full force, i only ever got like the classic models lionel would release, like the 80s and 70s cars that are kind of rare that they did in the past. Most of my next gen 1/64 cars come good, but a few of them came with wheels not set right so they dont roll good and the wheels hang up on the fenders, so i really have to look at them in the packaging before i purchase, because i open most of them, and some of the tampos have been getting messy on some.
I Know These NASCAR Authentics Have Some Of The Lowest Quality Since 2014, But I'm Still Buying These If I Find Them. I Am In Serious Need Of 2022 Diecasts As I Never Even Saw Any Wave 3 Diecasts. I Also Race These Diecasts, And Obviously They Will Get Chipped Over Time, So The Quality Of These May Blend In. I Also Rarely Buy Online Because I Feel The Prices Are Too High, Especially For Someone Whose Diecasts Go Through Heavy Usage. I Really Hope Lionel Does Not Cheap Out With Any More Waves Like This, As These Next Gen PTC Molds Simply Look Cheap. This Is Only My Opinion, And I'm Not Defending Lionel In Any Way, Because I Really Hope That They Use The EL Mold Again, As I Prefer It To The PTC Mold Almost Every Time Like Everyone Else, And I Know About How These Have Very Low Decal Quality, But I Will Still Buy These If I Find Them Despite The Horrendous Decals.
My point. Though my diecasts dont get chipped easily, I still like to "play" with the cars, el or ptc, so it would "blend" in, as you said, so it would still be good
@@sugarrushnascarman1886 it’s not even the authentics I went to Las Vegas and got my self a Kyle Busch diecast thinking it was all fine because I couldn’t tell if something was wrong with it so I let it be come to find out after opening the box and already taken the picture I looked back on it and the suspension was total dog crap
ptc are the best guys what are you talking about there so good looking I smashed them together to add some final touches to the cars them self. the original schemes didn't look good, so I made it look better. the do have gray spots and chipped paint i think it looks better
@@OriginalBigBry just throwing it out there, theres customs for a reason lol but its all good PTC is shit for you guys but for me its jus another generic mold for authentics
I think it'll be great if Nascar strips Lionel of the Authentics license and gives it to Auto World. I have some NHRA diecasts from Auto World that are top grade quality.
Eeeeeehhhh. Auto World is a lot harder to find than Lionel. I haven't ever seen a single Auto World in a store except Hobby Lobby. And they were $12-$14 per car
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 have fun paying $12 then. Cause Hobby Lobby is really the only major Greenlight Collectibles seller. Not every Walmart nor every Target sells them. And Greenlights are super expensive at Hobby Lobby.
The Cindric gold, Keselowski, Custer, and Harvick cars look alright in my opinion. The Chase Elliott and Kyle Busch ones look terrible. The Truex one looks mediocre. I’m still probably going to collect them probably. I’m a rookie when it comes to collecting them
these are so bad, and mine from 90s are beat all to hell and have some chips, but i have some from 2021 for my son and those chip so bad its crazy how bad quality they are, but i do like the font size on the tires lol
You make very good points. But there is a 5 dollar difference between the authentic and the rcca gold. You primarily getting the same car exception to the packaging. My issue is The Harvick cars that the primary sponsor Busch Lite the logo is missing.. I can understand with the retail authentic but when your paying 5 dollars more for an rcca gold the Busch Lite logo should be on the car. They take the Busch Lite sponsor off so they don't have to put the car on a stand. Understandably there doing it in case a parent is buying this car for a child but I cannot fathom a 5 dollar price hike. Rcca needs to lower the price of the rcca version of Harvicks car if they don't want to put the beer logo on it
Authentics are just a low qual easier to collect Gold Series man. And now it's not even worth it. Now, I wouldn't care to go to Walmart. Amazon or CircleB all the way. They work harder on the Gold Series.
12:42
"They cant even get the decals right, WhaAAAAA......!"
Oh my god, first time being pinned by him! Thanks!
Lol, they're five dollar cars at Target and Walmart in the kiddie aisle
You get what you pay for. These are meant for the younger fans. Not full-grown adults trying to be serious collectors. That's what the online stuff is for. The hundred dollar models. Not toy cars.
There's the usual comment yall... 🤣🤣🤣
@@OriginalBigBry I swear these people are delusional. 1/64's aren't only just "made for kids" lmfao.
When you have a monopoly on product and no competition, you get this
See EA Sports decline in NASCAR games in the mid 2000s
I’m so mad about this. Waited 2 and a half months for this crap
Especially with all the hype of "saving" it
Ikr I'm glad i got and can get these in the Gold series
@@shannongrayRFK yes
quit buying the authentic line get the good 1/64s
@@kubeanie18 some people dont always have the luxury of going to the track or online and buying the better ones there all the time, that's what the authentics line is for
I quit buying Lionel NASCAR diecast as a whole really. Not cause of the whole PTC mold thing. But cause my local stores just don't wanna order new stock. I blame that Walmart exclusive Daytona 500 wave in 2019. It pegwarmed for eternity it seemed. Then my local Walmart just refused to order new stuff. Then finally found something new in 2021 wave 13. Going 2.5 years with my local Walmart refusing to order new stock, it took me out of collecting. But Ebay brought me back in with all the old stuff I've found. I did find 2022 wave 3 and 1 of the Walmart test wave cars. But I just don't hunt anymore.
I thought he was absolutely smash his collection down off the wall
These cars should cost $1. Glad I get gold series.
I nearly passed out when I went on ebay and somebody was selling the KB car for $30. Ebay scalpers are delusional
Oh jeez goodness gracious, I saw that
As he said in the wave 6 review, they ain't even worth 5-6 bucks, 99cents at maximum. With the kind of quality they have, you'd think these would be cheaply made promos
@@sugarrushnascarman1886 exactly
Im quitting Authentics as well. Not dealing with crap anymore. People on twitter that tell me it’s 5 bucks don’t realize that quality control isn’t worth for shelling out 5-6 bucks for a piece of crap that’s going to fall apart in 2.9 seconds
@@MoltenRage41 That is true, you have a point. BUT, the point of nascar authentics is to give us mostly the same car, but without certain things like black interiors and window banners that's it. It should be the same mold at least, and it has always been. Even though they say the line is for little kids, it's for kids and people, like us, who dont always have the luxury to go online or the track all the time and get the full versioms, but we'd still be getting somewhat the same exact car in terms of how it feels, mold wise. I get they have to rush it, but that example should be the bare minimum, not another whole mold and say it's cheaper so that's that and we have to deal with it. That's just in my opinion, however, I'm not trying to change yours. Luckily, as you said however, they are cheap, so that's at least a good thing.
@@sugarrushnascarman1886 that is correct and I agree with that I just think throwing a fit on Twitter doesn't really make anyone look good actually kind of makes the community look like children which honestly I don't agree with.
@@MoltenRage41 it’s not throwing a fit dude it’s criticism
@@LSTNSCRFN Criticism thrown at lionel this way because it's happened more than once, that's why the collectors are basically losing their minds, taking advantage on a cheaper route isnt gonna happen much anymore if this continues.
Bro I think they put the Toyotas on the Camaro mold…LOL. Not sure but if you look closely I think that’s what they did.
It makes me want to cry.
In the last 6 months i have seen quality go to crap, orders backed up and on top of that I have had nothing but rude service from Circle B and Plan B .. im done dude
I’m going to get the 18 just so I can make a Truex custom maybe even a Bell Interstate Batteries fantasy scheme.
this man is literally one more bad wave away from blowing up the entire lionel racing factory
I started collecting again in 2017 after a long hiatus. No words can describe how abysmal this wave looks.
What I don't get about the chrome numbers on authentics is that they could just put in a gradient. Works well in the games when done right.
my opinion on these Harrison Burton I really like that it's more dark Martin Truex Too much red not enough orange Kyle Busch love it I love that the number Is white on top instead of red it's good to have both versions 1 with red 1 without
Oh I am so looking forward to this 😂👍
Oooo my F**king Word
The 19 is Actually on the Chevy Mold 😠😠😠😠
How!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They don’t even look like Next Gen cars to be honest! They look so knock off looking!!
You're right
I'm so glad that I bought the KB Interstate Batteries car in the gold series.
What's more sad, this isnt even the first time. This started with the program diecast, such as
Darlington
Kansas
Talladega
Phoenix fall
This is why Im very selective when buying NASCAR diecast nowadays...Lionel doesn't give a crap on what they put out. It's sad because Ive collected for about 22 years now and seen and collected during the best of times but now my interest has dwindled. I really want Autoworld to step in. The quality for the NHRA cars is spot on.
27:51 : “Oh my god. Did someone kill a leprechaun? *wheezes*”
I’ve been saying it been waiting and WAITING and WAITING. And we receive this 💩show of diecast.
The window net is the burnt chex mix you find at the bottom of the bag
At least I’ll be able to legit get a car from a store for once. People go nuts on them where I live, but don’t go for the ptc. Welp, more cars for me!
I go to antique shops to find older nascar diecasts for sale for quality products
That Casey mears in the back left is on the ptc mold
Edit: I know it's a bonus wave, but I have it
But, at least these were bonus waves, and were probably more for inventory clearance, as he stated in the wave 6 2022 video. Since the wave 12 2018, an official wave, mind you, that's when the train rolls off the rails here
I guess the issue is most people that buy these are collectors and collectors notice EVERY detail. I personally wouldn't notice but I wouldn't pay $6 for a car either. Looks like they misjudged their audience for a quick buck but it is going to hurt their long term buck and credibility!
wave 4 been out for weeks in South fla
One for the ages
UGGGH WHY LIONEL WHY HARRISON BERTON IN THE WAVE WHY I BEEN COLLECTING NASCAR DIECAST SINCE 2019
Lewis Hamilton: I don't get it guys I just don't get it
This is gonna be good one... Tell it like it is!
Honestly I remember when the all star wave was hated but the ptc is even more hated. It is not even close.
PTShit Mold
Bro. That's why I stopped by nascar diecast years ago. I switched to crypto! Rip
R.I.P. Nascar Authentics
"And Although i can hide my cold gaze and feel flesh gripping yours maybe our lifestyles are compable im simply not there........"
Common Lionel L
Ptc mold again lol
At least some diecast and paint schemes look familar with the ptc mold. Making them "interesting."
Love you're diecast collection behind you.
Thanks!
Shelf warmers!
Won't be where I live. My local stores rarely get anything and rarely order new stock. So whenever something does hit the pegs, it's GONE fast
0:16 & Waitin & Waitin For This
They look like something that is only exclusive to a Dollar store
If these were dollar store exclusives, big brain idea, as these cars at least still look put together somewhat, and are still play with able, and would look decent for 99c.
Just seeing this now. Words can't describe how pathetic this wave is. The quality control from Lionel is abysmal. And then they have the NERVE to tweet, "Boys and girls. Please. The mold is new for the Next Gen from the one you didn’t like on the previous generation car. These cars look different from the previous cars, right? Let’s pump the brakes and enjoy this much-anticipated wave."
Are you serious? This is the same company that didn't have Next-Gen cars out until July. It's November now and we're only on Wave 4. I think I'm done with Authentics for the foreseeable future as well.
there new podcast tonight there trying to damage control this situation.... claiming the ptc mold is a new mold ect... facepalm
I'm just happy Brad is in 2 waves so far
16:49. Oh lord 🙈
I like nascar for the cars, im that guy who likes to watch more of the testing of the cars, watching the tech on them, and sometimes tune when they race the circuits, i get a little bored when they are racing on the normal oval track they are mainly racing, once these next gen cars hit, i got into collecting them pretty full force, i only ever got like the classic models lionel would release, like the 80s and 70s cars that are kind of rare that they did in the past. Most of my next gen 1/64 cars come good, but a few of them came with wheels not set right so they dont roll good and the wheels hang up on the fenders, so i really have to look at them in the packaging before i purchase, because i open most of them, and some of the tampos have been getting messy on some.
W-why did Lionel make a ptc mold for the the next Gen in the first place!!? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen!!
Easy answer cheap labor faster production
I Can't Believe what I'm About to say
BUT Paying $15 for The AutoTrader Car
Was more Wurth it
Then The Wait for wave 4
I Know These NASCAR Authentics Have Some Of The Lowest Quality Since 2014, But I'm Still Buying These If I Find Them. I Am In Serious Need Of 2022 Diecasts As I Never Even Saw Any Wave 3 Diecasts. I Also Race These Diecasts, And Obviously They Will Get Chipped Over Time, So The Quality Of These May Blend In. I Also Rarely Buy Online Because I Feel The Prices Are Too High, Especially For Someone Whose Diecasts Go Through Heavy Usage. I Really Hope Lionel Does Not Cheap Out With Any More Waves Like This, As These Next Gen PTC Molds Simply Look Cheap. This Is Only My Opinion, And I'm Not Defending Lionel In Any Way, Because I Really Hope That They Use The EL Mold Again, As I Prefer It To The PTC Mold Almost Every Time Like Everyone Else, And I Know About How These Have Very Low Decal Quality, But I Will Still Buy These If I Find Them Despite The Horrendous Decals.
My point. Though my diecasts dont get chipped easily, I still like to "play" with the cars, el or ptc, so it would "blend" in, as you said, so it would still be good
Mattel God, Lionel ZZZ
Spin Master needs to make NASCAR die-cast again
Me as a jgr Fan there's no Jgr logo on the Kyle Busch Car and there's a line such a disappointment
The Florida man had this problem to with the Chase Nascar
At this point, the PTC mold cars are only gonna be bought for the purpose of creating custom diecasts cause they're horrendous(Except the Custer car)
I'm trying to get into doing it, but I wouldn't even use them for that
2018 Wave 12 PTC Mold
2021 Wave 13 PTC Mold
2022 Wave 4 PTC Mold.
2022 Wave 6 PTC Mold.
2022 Wave 8 PTC Mold.
I hope Lionel fixes there diecast because this is getting out of control
Not looking too good on the authentics side of the new next gen, besides the crappy decals on the 4, 5, and 9 cars
@@sugarrushnascarman1886 it’s not even the authentics I went to Las Vegas and got my self a Kyle Busch diecast thinking it was all fine because I couldn’t tell if something was wrong with it so I let it be come to find out after opening the box and already taken the picture I looked back on it and the suspension was total dog crap
@@diecastcollector7982 oh my.....
Or all together just get out of the diecast business
ptc are the best guys what are you talking about there so good looking I smashed them together to add some final touches to the cars them self.
the original schemes didn't look good, so I made it look better. the do have gray spots and chipped paint i think it looks better
im being sarcastic ptc are the worst look at your cars before you buy them
I went to Walmart multiple times and couldn’t find the diecast I think lionel racing knows he did something wrong….
The only car I’d say is worth getting is the chase piece. Those are too rare to pass up
Guess what wave fucking 6 is!
#DefundLionel
Well said bro, more people need to speak up about this garbage.
I am really shocked how they came out with this wave. Very awful looking cars on the PTC mold. I hate that mold. This wave was freaking rushed.
if i cant grab the gold series cars, imma resort to getting authentics as a second hand, IDGAF ABOUT PTC, DIECAST IS DIECAST
Strongly disagree with that last statement but I respect it though
@@OriginalBigBry just throwing it out there, theres customs for a reason lol but its all good PTC is shit for you guys but for me its jus another generic mold for authentics
Reading ur rage tweets made me feel like I wasn’t alone with my opinion
I Herd Ya Say EA Sports, EA SPORTS IT'S IN THE GAME.
I think it'll be great if Nascar strips Lionel of the Authentics license and gives it to Auto World. I have some NHRA diecasts from Auto World that are top grade quality.
Or Greenlight
Eeeeeehhhh. Auto World is a lot harder to find than Lionel. I haven't ever seen a single Auto World in a store except Hobby Lobby. And they were $12-$14 per car
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 have fun paying $12 then. Cause Hobby Lobby is really the only major Greenlight Collectibles seller. Not every Walmart nor every Target sells them. And Greenlights are super expensive at Hobby Lobby.
By the way I am a new subscriber
Why don’t multiple companies make nascar diecast anymore I miss team calliber
On par with quality of everything else anymore.
Hot Wheels makes a 5 dollar car that would make Lionel look like ass
Hot wheels actually used to make nascar diecasts in the early 2000’s ironically. Which were great to I have some in my collection.
@@KR_Diecasts i know i used to buy them all the time and the 97 tbird looked very good
@@shannongrayRFK I believe I have a few petty cars, the Kurt Busch 97 that I just reviewed last week and the tide 32
Hot wheels 2001-2004 are some of the nicest NASCAR diecast made. Rubber tires and the clear coat paint is so smooth.
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l IKR, that paint is so freaking smooth, I love it
I really hate the PTC Mold and Lionel Racing.
Tge Elliott unifirst car dosent even have the right color it has green instead of light blue 🤣
The Cindric gold, Keselowski, Custer, and Harvick cars look alright in my opinion. The Chase Elliott and Kyle Busch ones look terrible. The Truex one looks mediocre. I’m still probably going to collect them probably. I’m a rookie when it comes to collecting them
these are so bad, and mine from 90s are beat all to hell and have some chips, but i have some from 2021 for my son and those chip so bad its crazy how bad quality they are, but i do like the font size on the tires lol
Lionel out of business
We can only hope...
@@OriginalBigBry yeah
I'm wondering if they are trying to push the gold series and eliminate the NASCAR authentic series. Just a thought.
They are doing and El mold the PTC mold one after another and it fucking sucks
You make very good points. But there is a 5 dollar difference between the authentic and the rcca gold. You primarily getting the same car exception to the packaging. My issue is The Harvick cars that the primary sponsor Busch Lite the logo is missing.. I can understand with the retail authentic but when your paying 5 dollars more for an rcca gold the Busch Lite logo should be on the car. They take the Busch Lite sponsor off so they don't have to put the car on a stand. Understandably there doing it in case a parent is buying this car for a child but I cannot fathom a 5 dollar price hike. Rcca needs to lower the price of the rcca version of Harvicks car if they don't want to put the beer logo on it
Authentics are just a low qual easier to collect Gold Series man. And now it's not even worth it. Now, I wouldn't care to go to Walmart. Amazon or CircleB all the way. They work harder on the Gold Series.
I got a Kyle Larson valvoline diecast at martinsville and the hood doesn’t even have the vents in it
Edit: or the vents in the rear window
They have a lot of other waves planned
And, from what I heard in their latest podcast, they're probably gonna be like this too....
Lionel should really just stick to what their good at with the trains, time to hand the brand over to someone else for a shot
I might just get the interstate batteries car
Bryon: Look how they massacred my boy.
You talk WAY to fast.
Okay, I'll slow it down just for you
The mtj scheme color is pretty accurate. Look at homestead race
No
No it's not
PASSION👍