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I’m really new this coming from flying helis.... when you are making speed passes, I don’t see you pitch forward with your right stick. Do you mix that in with your throttle?
Currently flying a Mavic Pro for some nice video but these look like a lot of fun. How much does this rig cost and what's the lowest you could build a decent fun rig for, including controller and the monitor thing?
Hi. For 6s is it necessary to have caps on every esc or is it enough one on main battery lead? On full throttle it always desync, I had to set Demag to high and Motor timing to 22 in blheli32. It was a lot better after those settings changed, but still sometimes it desyncs. I have2306 2500kv motors and tekko32 esc.
Awesome build! What props do you use on this build when flying race and how does it run on 4s/5s? I am looking to build a similar quad using the merica-X frame, but do you think it will be faster with the normal merica frame since its a bit more aerodynamic?
Just wondering, what would you have to do to prevent the quad from flying unevenly/being hard to control at high speed? What causes that? D gain, filters etc..
amazing video. trying to build something similar but the electronics and motirs you're using are discontinued. would 2306 2400-2500kv and a decent 50A esc would do the job/similar speed without blowing up ?
Donald Belobraydic yea if you take both of the passes in each direction you’d get a more accurate speed avg. Surely colder temps help with denser air, just not sure how much
It looks like he placed markers on the ground at a known distance apart, and is measuring how long it takes to get from one marker to the next in post editing.
This Tech is getting better and better, cant wait until we are all getting around using that tech... I have a DJI spark and love flying it up to approaching storms, 50+ mph gust, get some good pics for sure. Never crashed it... So im pretty impressed at where this is going.
Interesting. I just realized on your stick movements that you didn't have to pitch down when you punched the collective. Does the flight control software (not sure what this hobby calls it) adjust things like that for you?
EbonySeraphim it’s not a software adjustment, (though probably it can be done, not sure) it’s just the “flight mode” when you are full manual flight mode, you don’t need to make many inputs if any at all once to are in forward flight. There is some input however the rates are quite sensitive so it may not be too apparent
You can throttle curve high KV motors to work on 6s. I'm not sure that's what he's doing here or not. If you want them to perform at 1/2 the KV then you chop the top 1/2 the throttle off. I'm still skeptical that it's a "good" way of doing things though.
I just bought a neato breakneck and brotherhobby avenger 2507 2600kv to do this exact same think. 6s for all out straight line top speed runs. What would you suggest for the electronics? The biggest esc i can find are 35a. Are they going to be enough? Thanks.
Bob Keller 35amp esc should be ok. A 40 amp one with 50amp burst wild be better. Biggest thing is making sure they are rated to take 6s voltage. And run a 35v 1000-2000 uF capacitor on it
Bob Keller I’ve had great results with the FlightOne (previously Raceflight) Bolt v2 esc. That’s one of the most powerful 6s capable blheli S escs. If you want the new Bl32 stuff. The Bolt32 is just as power as the boltv2 but 32bit
Hey man I’ve been changing up my props a bit on different set ups but the APC props I got are the same ones you have and they’re really soft. Like SUPER flexible. Is that how yours are? I get wobbles at high speeds with them. And that’s in a 4s 2207 2650kv build. I wanted to run them on my new build but I don’t think they’ll last. Any suggestions? Could I be getting a bad batch? It’s really frustrating. I’ve been using dal cyclone 5050’s lately but I really liked the first set of apc props I had. The rest have been junk. My new build is a 6s merica with t motor f80’s 1900kv. I built it for pure top speed runs and I just don’t know what prop to go for. Somebody told me 5046 apc props but that seems like a super low pitch.
They should be super stiff. There are 2 different ones, one is a really stiff and the other is softer so while they are identical in design, it’s a different material, are yours black or grey?
mx118racer yes mode 2. It’s a little deceiving because the quad is mostly already in forward flight so it takes very little pitch input but it’s certainly there
Awesome, would a super capacitor between the batt and quad help with the sag? Obvious trade off with weight but would be curious to see what the right cap might do. If you have the batt and amperage telemetry around the max draw curves I could run some sims.
Tom Hurst I’ve never heard of capacitors being used for that. I am no expert at all but I just understood the cap is there to absorb and deal with any voltage spikes
The super caps are different. They can provide a higher output than most if not all batteries but for a very short time. So during heavy accel / load the initial power would come from the super cap keeping the battery from sagging to whatever degree one sets it up for. (short answer) There's bound to be some good videos floating around. I'd be happy to play with some numbers. Would need voltage start, lowest, recovery and the matching values for the current to see if it would be worth it. I do know they are being used in everything from handheld devices (to extend the battery run-time by compensating for the sag which would normally cause the battery to go below minimums.) to shipping port cranes to ease the draw on the power grid.
Iam getting into the racing Drones, an I haven’t bought one yet can you tell me what your Drone an controller cost? and what you recommend from your experiences with this equipment you own? Thanks great Video!
How durable is the canopy and also protection to camera? I just race and smashing into gate is very common. I use popup soccer goals. I have broken so many cameras.
Jack Truong since I switched from standard carbon top plates, to canopy I have not broken a single camera. I used to break at least one per day of hard race flying or practice
@@gabbychavesracing24 great looking quad but what hold me back is the position of the vtx and esc. Both can get very hot and on top of each other. You do not have any issue with these components? In particular in the Australian summer where temp can get up to 45 degree Celsius. I can not see how it can survive.
Jack Truong I have never had or heard of any of the hundreds of other pilots have that issue. These frames were one of the most prominent frames flown at IO world championships in the summer in Indiana and granted it never got to 45 degrees, it was the hottest summer in 20+ years we’ve seen with temps in the high 30s and low 40s all days.
I want to do a build like this at some point, but is there any risk of blowing an esc or motor often when you run this on 6s? is there anything I should know about starting to build one?
Zephyr make sure you pick out a quality 6s rated esc and also a good brand name motor which will have better bearings which will reduce motor noise and keep heat down with very high voltage and amp draw
Is your osd off as your osd reads like 25.8 or are you hv charging rline packs? Also your Lipo sags very little for staying on full throttle as my new rline 95c 6s packs and any of my high oh 6s builds;f80 2500,avemger 2507 2700,finx40 2610,finx30 2610,rebel v2 limited 2306 2550 and BBB 2407 2600 all day extremely worse while on some liteweigjt frames including merica 5in,ruxus v2 5in,strix awk210,floss v2 and rockstar rk5 as well as others with ak32 4in1,bolt32 skitzo ,aikon 45a and now my 8s build strix with 2507 2450kv info stayed on throttle like you would say down to about what yours does for 2 passes then it would hit 18v and numbers like that that you can hear and feel extreme bogging down and use 5.1x5.0x2 apc and azure 5152x2 dual as well as 5055 hulkie and 5552x3 gemfan and 5152x2 and x3 and Lipo basically did that since the 1st flights and pack has 12 flights or so as well does my 5s 95c rline and and 3 other 6s packs. Not sure how your getting your pack to hang at about 21v while even staying at full throttle simce if I try to sustain 1s at 100% its already losing speed. Thinking maybe my 130+mph 6s floss runs with 5552x3 on 2700kv avenger and 2607.5 2600kv zmx took em to the point of no return or when I get em 180f+ at times though they dont puff 😬 Though usually they get fairly warm but not burning hot status but will if I try to sustain several secs wide open like you did even when I let it rest between passes. Your lipos get fairly hot at times? I also fly these quads everyday on 4s and 5 and 6s like you do so wanna figure out how your not sagging nearly at all or have 25.8v on osd and even if 0.6v high still sustaining a higher voltage under full load than me since I hit 18v with ease if I want or if I dont rather😤
charles hodge charging it to 4.4 volts. And I also charge it at 8 amps which will create some internal heat in the battery and reduce IR which will give you less sag
David R. Cohen should have good results with that setup. I don’t think 2500kv is the limit, but anything more than that and you’ll probably need a higher mah battery than 1300
You're a really cool dude and keep up the good work because young people being involved with good positive things is what will make this world a better place for your great-grandkids
WOW, that's moving... Just curious, I noticed that your motor rotation is opposite to normal, what would the speed be if they were running in normal rotation than in opposite rotation?
How do you displaying the voltage on your FPV image? Your setup don't have an OSD. How I can displying the voltage and the current? I get the same setup with lower kV Motors ; )
Erol Ryant depends on what fpv camera you have. Most will have a “vbat” pin that you solder directly to the + on the 4in1 esc or pdb and that will display the voltage on your feed but it has to be a camera with osd
HEY ANY ISSUES WITH ESC now? ive gotta find a esc that wont blow fets in 1 minute of try zmx finx40 2610kv 2607 size motors but spedix 4.1 30amp two esc bad withing minute
well would it be okay using on betaflight joshua bardwell f4? im hoping the flight controller cant be my issue blowing esc lol im worried about everything after 2 new esc blowing up
Can you help me with a question please? The way this unit is configured, how far away can you fly it without losing signal? The same question for how high can you take it without losing signal? I would very much appreciate learning this answer from as many of you cool people as possible. I thank you.
Hey man did you have to do anything special to run 6s on the revolt v3 and the bolt 4 in 1? On the specs it says it’s not good to run 6s directly to the bolt
GC Cannonball oh okay hell yea I was just wondering I have a revolt v3 and bolt v2 on a build and considering its 50a I thought it could handle it. But I saw on multiple pages it said it’s not recommended to run straight 6s to it which I thought was really weird Thanks a lot I’ll have to run my vtx differently and give it a try when I order different motors.
That's pretty dang fast. I like it. Have you tried the three blade props?? They will take your quad from fast to flat out craziness. They put out LOTS of thrust.
Shawn Dubay yea the 3 blade props will give you more thrust but less speed since they create more drag and less rpm, so for top speed, 2 blade, and for acceleration/ handling 3 blade!
Oswalds Reef sure they do! You can build anything with any mix of components. I think in general the power:weight ratio is better in a 5” than a 4” so probably why it’s not very popular
Watching you fly I don’t understand how your flying forward with zero input in forward pitch. Either I can’t see you push the stick forward and applying throttle. If your not applying forward pitch how do you tune the quad to fly like this
Blake Westergaard it’s a very small input on the pitch stick. Since there is no stabilization in acro mode, once the quad is in forward flight there is no need to keep the pitch stick forward
@@infiniteadventure1032 That's still misuse of the word 'nothing', 'comparatively inexpensive' would be accurate, 'extremely inexpensive' would be subjective but acceptable. Nothing means nothing, it doesn't mean a small amount.
is there anyway to get past the glitchy video trasmission? or is it something we all have to put up with until some legend invents something that allows crystal clear view no glitch
sry i may be seeing this wrong, but at 6:11 when you turned back i did not see you move your yaw, with the turn, im not wearing my glasses but im just wondering if that was angle mode lol. no shame in it if u r, i dont use it but i was wondering if the physics of it change at that speed. gonna go test out my new 6s le drib hypetrain build on 40A today after school and ima do the same thing. lol i would assume you would just roll out of that but the rest of the flight does not look like angle
Prop Ability FPV I was flying with about 80* of camera up tilt so at that speed with so much pitch angle in the quad there is no need to use yaw at all
@@gabbychavesracing24 it looked like I all you used was the throttle it didn't seem like you had to push the right stick forward much maybe it was just me and do you set your radio so the rudder kicks in when you turn with the right stick?
Jerry Pomeroy definitely moving the right stick for pitch input, but yes if very small amount, mainly because in Acro mode you don’t have to maintain stick input, you just make the first input and then as long as you’re in forward flight the quad will maintain that pitch
@@gabbychavesracing24 just getting into this didn't know that thank you for the information sir I just bought a catalyst machineworks Merica with a bunch of fancy stuff on it F4 controller of some sort 1200 D shot and 2206 2700 KV Motors from a guy in North Dakota I need help setting up a radio I have a FlySky i6s the new one touch screen kind of got it figured out but I know I got a long way to go Bought a mjx bugs 8 pro to learn on the first one flew away the second one burned up the ESC in 5 minutes that one's getting fixed and I have the Merica coming from North Dakota this week hopefully I can learn some stuff from you
Bro you are a true Beast can I watch you fly man you really inspire me to get out there and fly every day every time I watch one of your videos I take my eachine Wizard x220 and fly around I hope to be as good as you one day but honestly my quad is holding me back I just don't have the money to get another one right now but I will eventually one day God bless you man honestly I don't know how rotor ride isn't knocking at your door wanting to film you fly because you're a true Beast bro true Beast
petefly FPV I use two 1000 uf 35V caps which are wired to the ESC, and my vtx is powered directly by the esc, and the vtx feeds a filtered 5v to power my cam
Dam bro!!! That’s crazy.. I just got into quads just got a DJI spark and I know these are 2 completely different applications but I enjoy mine. I thought my 31 mph in sport was kinda fast but shit!!! Very nice man. Don’t pay any of these trolls any mind talkin shit you got a bad ass set up brother
Do you have a complete build list for that drone? I didn’t catch if it was all put together by you or if there is a stock model purchase? Great vid loved it from beginning to end. Keep up the good work.
I am skeptical, I have driven a car at 150 plus, it looks much faster than the video. My guess it looks about 80 to 100 mph. How did you get the reading? I'm not saying your lying, just that it doesn't look 165.
Richie Rich and I drive Indycar at 240 mph, speed is perceived differently from different perspectives. The method used is measuring a distance, laying out a beacon at point A then point B, and using a transponder to measure the time it took to cover that distance which gives you a very accurate speed. Much more accurate than gps or radar
Whoah, whoah whoah. I am a new FPV quad pilot. He is using only throttle to go faster at the same attitude/altitude. What tuning is this? What mode is this? If I did this in angle or horizon I would get dynamic lift and regular lift and I would be 500 feet in the air. I don't know what acro mode does, but I don't think it is this. So what magic sorcery is this?
Hahaha! Yes you can’t do this on horizon or angle. Acro once you make an input, the quad holds its attitude until you make an input to counter the first one. So essentially once you are in forward flight you don’t need to pitch forward and same for any other input
Ok I just got 2 ???. 1) What are the amps? (Amps times volts equals watts.) 2) how many G's is that thing pulling? I mean I could break the video down, but all I think of is that I'd pass out from that. The guy that hops up on the Gyro-tron & stands up!
I’m using 2x1000 uf caps under the front arms. The Bolt esc has two placements for them on the front of the esc so I guess I could add a 3rd to the main batt lead if needed
GC Cannonball thanks, I’m not that familiar yet with raceflight products yet. I order the spark32 and millivoltosd and I’m gonna try to fit it in the massive Droner
You should call it the Screech! It sure is loud, and Fast for that matter! What is it's weight? How much for the build? Anyway Excellent video, and Happy Droning!™
BrOwNpAnTz I’m using bi blade on for speed runs only. My normal racing setup I use 1725kv motors on 6s and 5045 Tri blade. or 2650kv on 4s Tri blade also
I have been flying helis for 12 years. Love em. Just added a trex 700 to the fleet but after watching this I wish I could see it in person. Never seen a race quad in person but I'm a sucker for bad assery(word?) Which this thing is bad ass. I have to build one now. Those props sound so mean. Great flying. I might use your build as a guideline. Thanks for sharing
How do you like your ix12? I just upgraded to the ix12 as well. I really like it and it's got so much stuff that I got to get use to .I've been using the original dx7 since it came out so I've been outdated on that
xrguy650 I know a couple guys that fly helis and that’s how they started flying quads. It’s mesmerizing to to see how you guys can do all that crazy shit LOS! There are a few guys that do LOS with race quads and it’s a treat to watch as well
Well I've been pricing out parts and wow is this hobby cheap compared to helis. I can buy 4 motors I need for around 100. Funny I just told the wife no more this year after the 700. Now just wait till she sees me putting something new together. Lol. I figure the big money is in fpv. My budget is fairly open. What's a good decent fpv unit with range and little interference in your opinion.
xrguy650 well the best rigs are custom built. I suggest you join the Catalyst Machineworks Facebook group and make a post about what you want, and thru there, I and the owner of the company can suggest the best build and build it to order
After I come back from leaving town I'll get in touch. Would love some advice. I checked the website and will definitely support the store. I can't have you build it for me. That's the best part!
Bad ass man! Definitely some good flying i would have hit the ground, those power poles or ballooned to the moon for sure trying to fly at that speed haha. Or with my luck my quad would probably just atomize into a million pieces in mid air 😂. Keep it up brother definitely fun to watch!! 😮🤘👍
Your method to get the speed is awesome. I usually strap my old Galaxy s5 to the bottom of my quad with a GPS speed app running lol. The weight obviously makes a difference but I'm never going for perfect accuracy anyway. Cool vid!
GC Cannonball good to know, how often would you say Desyncs happen when flying like this? Do the tips you gave me seem to prevent them altogether? Thanks! This high kv 6s stuff is no joke haha
Zephyr well I had one desync so far and it was attempting to cover a full mile with this setup. It lasted about 10-12 seconds before it spiraled out of the air
Chuck Sandos I use a simple calculation of time over distance, which gives me the average speed over that distance. I have 2 beacons that are triggered when a signal goes over it. That gives me the time from A to B
I know my build wont be as fast as yours, but for fun I would like to know how fast, I have started to use the gf7042 props with my 2508 1450kv motors on 5S, I have tried 6S but these props cant handle it, originally I intended to use 8inch props (APC 8060) but because of a design flaw with the motors they don't like props with inserts, the CW locknuts work lose pretty quickly
I didn't know APC made an 8060 that came in both directions. This is my APC 8045 quad on 6s with Garila 2506 motors. I want to try some 8060s th-cam.com/video/2qKfHw0j2PA/w-d-xo.html
A normal racing quad is around 100-150$, assuming you build it yourself. The goggles can range from 100-500$, batteries are 25$ each, and you need a lipo charger which are 50-60$, and a transmitter which is around 100$. A 6s build like this will cost way more for the quad, and you will need to have some pretty damn good soldering skills to solder it. Look up some videos and guides on building quads.(btw quad=quadcopter)
I’m building my first ever and with everything including goggles I’m around $250-$300. I bought a fairly inexpensive build that will go only around 60-70mph. The transmitter and goggles are the two main big purchases and after that it’s fairly reduced pricing since you have those two components already.
e4Bc4Qf3QfI have more build than fly time... fear of destroying my precious builds xD only the self build naza ones flew more :D Started with multiwii back then... unflyable at first because of the processing power and software :D
"stop flying that dji mavic its too loud"
"okay i'll fly this smaller one then"
Zephyr what
@@Joe-dh6uu Don`t you mean: "WHAAAAAAT!??"
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@Jamie Brayden Instablaster ;)
Just realized that 160 mph are 250+ kmh 😲
Sub to Pewds 📣
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oh, ye lol i was llike thats slow but now dame
265.542kmh to be exact
Wow
I don't know what to say other than WOW. WTF. HOLY COW. IMPRESSIVE.
I know right!
BTW love your guy's work! Can't wait to get my Merica frame and hopefully one day get sponsored by you guys! Hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge
I have the mofo and almost the same build but tri prop and rush matrix stack but need goggles so yet to see it's full potential...i is skarrrd 😅🙈🙉🙊
So again.. how did you come up with your speed? Did you take the 150m and equate the milliseconds from the ring marker to the transmission pole?
I’m really new this coming from flying helis.... when you are making speed passes, I don’t see you pitch forward with your right stick. Do you mix that in with your throttle?
Hieu Ha nope just regular mode 2 layout. I just have pretty sensitive rates but I am pitching forward some
Thank you!
Wow. Only thing stopping us now is our batts. I see the speedrunning getting more popular as time goes by. Keep at it!
My heart was pounding and I wasn’t even flying. Thx for sharing.
Currently flying a Mavic Pro for some nice video but these look like a lot of fun. How much does this rig cost and what's the lowest you could build a decent fun rig for, including controller and the monitor thing?
You could get a full setup for 300$ they are crazy cheap compared to other style drones
Nice to watch fast little machines. Thanks for sharing.
Hi. For 6s is it necessary to have caps on every esc or is it enough one on main battery lead? On full throttle it always desync, I had to set Demag to high and Motor timing to 22 in blheli32. It was a lot better after those settings changed, but still sometimes it desyncs. I have2306 2500kv motors and tekko32 esc.
I found myself watching your thumbs more than the drone at points 🤯 well done!
Awesome build!
What props do you use on this build when flying race and how does it run on 4s/5s? I am looking to build a similar quad using the merica-X frame, but do you think it will be faster with the normal merica frame since its a bit more aerodynamic?
Just wondering, what would you have to do to prevent the quad from flying unevenly/being hard to control at high speed? What causes that? D gain, filters etc..
Glad I found your channel for a few different reasons. Very nice and easy to watch
amazing video. trying to build something similar but the electronics and motirs you're using are discontinued. would 2306 2400-2500kv and a decent 50A esc would do the job/similar speed without blowing up ?
It’s all in the setup
Very informative and professional. I really enjoy high speed tests. Did the wind and cold weather play a large role?
Donald Belobraydic yea if you take both of the passes in each direction you’d get a more accurate speed avg. Surely colder temps help with denser air, just not sure how much
Excellent flying!!! Much better flying than I could ever hope for :/ Keep it up - I hope some day we will see 200mph!
Hi Cannonball. Nice work!
How does the quad feel with the DYS Thor 2500KV 6S? Would you fly it on a racetrack? And how was the amp draw?
Moritz Beyer I don’t think I would fly it on a race track. Amp draw is too high. Peaking around 200 amps, not really sustainable for racing
How did it feel though? Would you like to fly it on a track?
How are you gauging speed accurately! Do you have a GPS on this quad? Also how many amps is your ESC and what’s the draw of these motors at 100%?
It looks like he placed markers on the ground at a known distance apart, and is measuring how long it takes to get from one marker to the next in post editing.
This Tech is getting better and better, cant wait until we are all getting around using that tech... I have a DJI spark and love flying it up to approaching storms, 50+ mph gust, get some good pics for sure. Never crashed it... So im pretty impressed at where this is going.
Is it possible to mount 2 additional motors forward facing ? like the Osprey. Would the drone be any faster ?
The sound of it speeding is music to my ears 😍😍
Interesting. I just realized on your stick movements that you didn't have to pitch down when you punched the collective. Does the flight control software (not sure what this hobby calls it) adjust things like that for you?
EbonySeraphim it’s not a software adjustment, (though probably it can be done, not sure) it’s just the “flight mode” when you are full manual flight mode, you don’t need to make many inputs if any at all once to are in forward flight. There is some input however the rates are quite sensitive so it may not be too apparent
How are you running 6s with 2500kv motors???
You can throttle curve high KV motors to work on 6s. I'm not sure that's what he's doing here or not. If you want them to perform at 1/2 the KV then you chop the top 1/2 the throttle off. I'm still skeptical that it's a "good" way of doing things though.
I just bought a neato breakneck and brotherhobby avenger 2507 2600kv to do this exact same think. 6s for all out straight line top speed runs. What would you suggest for the electronics? The biggest esc i can find are 35a. Are they going to be enough? Thanks.
Bob Keller 35amp esc should be ok. A 40 amp one with 50amp burst wild be better. Biggest thing is making sure they are rated to take 6s voltage. And run a 35v 1000-2000 uF capacitor on it
GC Cannonball awesome. Thank you for that info. I hadn't thought of the capacitors. I was hoping aikon had larger esc but dont see one.
Bob Keller I’ve had great results with the FlightOne (previously Raceflight) Bolt v2 esc. That’s one of the most powerful 6s capable blheli S escs. If you want the new Bl32 stuff. The Bolt32 is just as power as the boltv2 but 32bit
GC Cannonball thank you. I will check them out
Hey man I’ve been changing up my props a bit on different set ups but the APC props I got are the same ones you have and they’re really soft. Like SUPER flexible. Is that how yours are? I get wobbles at high speeds with them. And that’s in a 4s 2207 2650kv build. I wanted to run them on my new build but I don’t think they’ll last. Any suggestions? Could I be getting a bad batch? It’s really frustrating. I’ve been using dal cyclone 5050’s lately but I really liked the first set of apc props I had. The rest have been junk. My new build is a 6s merica with t motor f80’s 1900kv. I built it for pure top speed runs and I just don’t know what prop to go for. Somebody told me 5046 apc props but that seems like a super low pitch.
They should be super stiff. There are 2 different ones, one is a really stiff and the other is softer so while they are identical in design, it’s a different material, are yours black or grey?
Mine are black... where can I find the grey ones?
Chris Taylor 99% sure this is the one www.apcprop.com/product/5-1x5-0e-b4/
Pretty cool. How are you getting the speed readings? Is there GPS on it or just using the time and distance?
im kinda new to this but watching your sticks you dont seem to pitch forward as you accel, is this mode 2 ?
mx118racer yes mode 2. It’s a little deceiving because the quad is mostly already in forward flight so it takes very little pitch input but it’s certainly there
That’s holy balls fast , I’m just getting into this, I’ll be following and learning 🤙 from Hawaii
HI GC, I'm working on my 2.5 Mass DR. HGLRC F438 TX20, RCX=H1304 4000KV. OR RCX H1407 3200KV. 4S 800mah ?
Awesome, would a super capacitor between the batt and quad help with the sag? Obvious trade off with weight but would be curious to see what the right cap might do. If you have the batt and amperage telemetry around the max draw curves I could run some sims.
Tom Hurst I’ve never heard of capacitors being used for that. I am no expert at all but I just understood the cap is there to absorb and deal with any voltage spikes
The super caps are different. They can provide a higher output than most if not all batteries but for a very short time. So during heavy accel / load the initial power would come from the super cap keeping the battery from sagging to whatever degree one sets it up for. (short answer) There's bound to be some good videos floating around. I'd be happy to play with some numbers. Would need voltage start, lowest, recovery and the matching values for the current to see if it would be worth it. I do know they are being used in everything from handheld devices (to extend the battery run-time by compensating for the sag which would normally cause the battery to go below minimums.) to shipping port cranes to ease the draw on the power grid.
Tom Hurst oh wow I had not heard of that before. Almost like the KERS system a F1 car uses
Iam getting into the racing Drones, an I haven’t bought one yet can you tell me what your Drone an controller cost? and what you recommend from your experiences with this equipment you own? Thanks great Video!
So awesome 👏
Some people are just good at whatever they do!
It’s cool to see you trying out your wings too!!
How durable is the canopy and also protection to camera? I just race and smashing into gate is very common. I use popup soccer goals. I have broken so many cameras.
Jack Truong since I switched from standard carbon top plates, to canopy I have not broken a single camera. I used to break at least one per day of hard race flying or practice
@@gabbychavesracing24 great looking quad but what hold me back is the position of the vtx and esc. Both can get very hot and on top of each other. You do not have any issue with these components? In particular in the Australian summer where temp can get up to 45 degree Celsius. I can not see how it can survive.
Jack Truong I have never had or heard of any of the hundreds of other pilots have that issue. These frames were one of the most prominent frames flown at IO world championships in the summer in Indiana and granted it never got to 45 degrees, it was the hottest summer in 20+ years we’ve seen with temps in the high 30s and low 40s all days.
I want to do a build like this at some point, but is there any risk of blowing an esc or motor often when you run this on 6s? is there anything I should know about starting to build one?
Zephyr make sure you pick out a quality 6s rated esc and also a good brand name motor which will have better bearings which will reduce motor noise and keep heat down with very high voltage and amp draw
@@gabbychavesracing24 so this build you're using has all of that? Anything I should know about this specific srtup? It seems to work quite well haha
Zephyr yes! If you want my exact list, I have it listed in the video description
@@gabbychavesracing24 oh that's perfect, thank you!
Is your osd off as your osd reads like 25.8 or are you hv charging rline packs?
Also your Lipo sags very little for staying on full throttle as my new rline 95c 6s packs and any of my high oh 6s builds;f80 2500,avemger 2507 2700,finx40 2610,finx30 2610,rebel v2 limited 2306 2550 and BBB 2407 2600 all day extremely worse while on some liteweigjt frames including merica 5in,ruxus v2 5in,strix awk210,floss v2 and rockstar rk5 as well as others with ak32 4in1,bolt32 skitzo ,aikon 45a and now my 8s build strix with 2507 2450kv info stayed on throttle like you would say down to about what yours does for 2 passes then it would hit 18v and numbers like that that you can hear and feel extreme bogging down and use 5.1x5.0x2 apc and azure 5152x2 dual as well as 5055 hulkie and 5552x3 gemfan and 5152x2 and x3 and Lipo basically did that since the 1st flights and pack has 12 flights or so as well does my 5s 95c rline and and 3 other 6s packs.
Not sure how your getting your pack to hang at about 21v while even staying at full throttle simce if I try to sustain 1s at 100% its already losing speed.
Thinking maybe my 130+mph 6s floss runs with 5552x3 on 2700kv avenger and 2607.5 2600kv zmx took em to the point of no return or when I get em 180f+ at times though they dont puff 😬
Though usually they get fairly warm but not burning hot status but will if I try to sustain several secs wide open like you did even when I let it rest between passes.
Your lipos get fairly hot at times?
I also fly these quads everyday on 4s and 5 and 6s like you do so wanna figure out how your not sagging nearly at all or have 25.8v on osd and even if 0.6v high still sustaining a higher voltage under full load than me since I hit 18v with ease if I want or if I dont rather😤
charles hodge charging it to 4.4 volts. And I also charge it at 8 amps which will create some internal heat in the battery and reduce IR which will give you less sag
can i get similar results with a hellioRc fc and and random ( aikon32) 4in1 esc? and ...is 2500kv the limit on this 6s setup?
David R. Cohen should have good results with that setup. I don’t think 2500kv is the limit, but anything more than that and you’ll probably need a higher mah battery than 1300
thanks for reply. rceddijust and others says high KV (2500 and up ) coupled with high voltage will have your quad burst into a ball of fire.
You're a really cool dude and keep up the good work because young people being involved with good positive things is what will make this world a better place for your great-grandkids
Thanks for sharing this! Question: how much does the whole setup weigh with batteries and everything?
WOW, that's moving... Just curious, I noticed that your motor rotation is opposite to normal, what would the speed be if they were running in normal rotation than in opposite rotation?
Todd Hazell it wouldn’t change anything. It’s just a preference for racing it usually helps bounce off gates rather than get sucked in
How do you displaying the voltage on your FPV image? Your setup don't have an OSD. How I can displying the voltage and the current? I get the same setup with lower kV Motors ; )
Erol Ryant depends on what fpv camera you have. Most will have a “vbat” pin that you solder directly to the + on the 4in1 esc or pdb and that will display the voltage on your feed but it has to be a camera with osd
HEY ANY ISSUES WITH ESC now? ive gotta find a esc that wont blow fets in 1 minute of try zmx finx40 2610kv 2607 size motors but spedix 4.1 30amp two esc bad withing minute
Danger Davefpv still going strong!
well would it be okay using on betaflight joshua bardwell f4? im hoping the flight controller cant be my issue blowing esc lol im worried about everything after 2 new esc blowing up
Danger Davefpv no the FC won’t be the issue. And tho I ran raceflight in this video. Betaflight should work well also
Danger Davefpv limit current in blheli suite and you are good to go
What is your controller set up? Do you have throttle and roll on the same gimbal?
Brett Burton no it’s just standard mode 2
Throttle and yaw on left gimbal and roll and pitch on right.
I’m glad that you can make field goals. Me, not so much. Nice job, very interesting, thanks.
Wait so u bought a cheap drone n made it super fast ? By changing motors ? How much
Damn Id say thats success!! Sweet sweet build and runs!
Can you help me with a question please? The way this unit is configured, how far away can you fly it without losing signal? The same question for how high can you take it without losing signal? I would very much appreciate learning this answer from as many of you cool people as possible. I thank you.
Estupendo !!!
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One question ... do you fly in mode1, why?
Tks.
Drones de Honduras mode 2!
Dude, thats crazy! How did you measure the speeds?
how much did the drone weigh? I wonder how much kinetic energy would it have
Hey man did you have to do anything special to run 6s on the revolt v3 and the bolt 4 in 1? On the specs it says it’s not good to run 6s directly to the bolt
Chris Taylor nothing special. Bolt is 6s compatible. Should say on the specs 4-6s compatible. It’s also probably the most robust 6s esc out there too.
GC Cannonball oh okay hell yea I was just wondering I have a revolt v3 and bolt v2 on a build and considering its 50a I thought it could handle it. But I saw on multiple pages it said it’s not recommended to run straight 6s to it which I thought was really weird Thanks a lot I’ll have to run my vtx differently and give it a try when I order different motors.
Can the electronics in this drone be adapted for use in model rocketry?
How are you getting the reading? What are you using.
That's pretty dang fast. I like it. Have you tried the three blade props?? They will take your quad from fast to flat out craziness. They put out LOTS of thrust.
Shawn Dubay yea the 3 blade props will give you more thrust but less speed since they create more drag and less rpm, so for top speed, 2 blade, and for acceleration/ handling 3 blade!
Thanks go. Can YOU tell me why 4" quads running 4s with similar ratios of motor/weight/frame size under 180mm don't exist?
Oswalds Reef sure they do! You can build anything with any mix of components. I think in general the power:weight ratio is better in a 5” than a 4” so probably why it’s not very popular
Watching you fly I don’t understand how your flying forward with zero input in forward pitch. Either I can’t see you push the stick forward and applying throttle. If your not applying forward pitch how do you tune the quad to fly like this
Blake Westergaard it’s a very small input on the pitch stick. Since there is no stabilization in acro mode, once the quad is in forward flight there is no need to keep the pitch stick forward
My drone can fly at 30mph....so take that 😂
@@swg_fpv So not literally nothing then, literally about $60.
after you buy all that scoot comes at your house and takes it then its literally nothing XD @@GoneToHelenBach
GoneToHelenBach for fpv that is nothing
@@infiniteadventure1032 That's still misuse of the word 'nothing', 'comparatively inexpensive' would be accurate, 'extremely inexpensive' would be subjective but acceptable. Nothing means nothing, it doesn't mean a small amount.
@@GoneToHelenBach Bet you're fun at parties.
is there anyway to get past the glitchy video trasmission? or is it something we all have to put up with until some legend invents something that allows crystal clear view no glitch
sry i may be seeing this wrong, but at 6:11 when you turned back i did not see you move your yaw, with the turn, im not wearing my glasses but im just wondering if that was angle mode lol. no shame in it if u r, i dont use it but i was wondering if the physics of it change at that speed. gonna go test out my new 6s le drib hypetrain build on 40A today after school and ima do the same thing. lol i would assume you would just roll out of that but the rest of the flight does not look like angle
Prop Ability FPV I was flying with about 80* of camera up tilt so at that speed with so much pitch angle in the quad there is no need to use yaw at all
ah cool
I'm just getting into this I have to ask what mold are you flying in the way your sticks are set?
Jerry Pomeroy do you mean what mode? If so, mode 2!
@@gabbychavesracing24 it looked like I all you used was the throttle it didn't seem like you had to push the right stick forward much maybe it was just me and do you set your radio so the rudder kicks in when you turn with the right stick?
I just bought one of these 4S with dys 2600 2700 KV Motors
Jerry Pomeroy definitely moving the right stick for pitch input, but yes if very small amount, mainly because in Acro mode you don’t have to maintain stick input, you just make the first input and then as long as you’re in forward flight the quad will maintain that pitch
@@gabbychavesracing24 just getting into this didn't know that thank you for the information sir I just bought a catalyst machineworks Merica with a bunch of fancy stuff on it F4 controller of some sort 1200 D shot and 2206 2700 KV Motors from a guy in North Dakota I need help setting up a radio I have a FlySky i6s the new one touch screen kind of got it figured out but I know I got a long way to go Bought a mjx bugs 8 pro to learn on the first one flew away the second one burned up the ESC in 5 minutes that one's getting fixed and I have the Merica coming from North Dakota this week hopefully I can learn some stuff from you
I have the Mercia 6s build w Bh r3 1660kv It’s fast but not fast like you what KV motor should I go up to 2500 or 2700 please help thank you sir
Is it possible to race the drone from post to post and use that as a baseline to beat your speed records?
Bro you are a true Beast can I watch you fly man you really inspire me to get out there and fly every day every time I watch one of your videos I take my eachine Wizard x220 and fly around I hope to be as good as you one day but honestly my quad is holding me back I just don't have the money to get another one right now but I will eventually one day God bless you man honestly I don't know how rotor ride isn't knocking at your door wanting to film you fly because you're a true Beast bro true Beast
do you use capacitors for your cam? what im asking is..is it necessary?
petefly FPV I use two 1000 uf 35V caps which are wired to the ESC, and my vtx is powered directly by the esc, and the vtx feeds a filtered 5v to power my cam
Cool one. How did you measure the speed? Do you have gps built in?
Pawel Zet no gps. Using time/distance with an electronic beacon at each end to start and stop the timer
@@gabbychavesracing24 Interesting. You could share some tips how to do it :)
Dam bro!!! That’s crazy.. I just got into quads just got a DJI spark and I know these are 2 completely different applications but I enjoy mine. I thought my 31 mph in sport was kinda fast but shit!!! Very nice man. Don’t pay any of these trolls any mind talkin shit you got a bad ass set up brother
Cool video, what did you use to measure the speed of the drone?
what in the world can support a 2500kv motors with 6s?!?! What esc`s are you using to be able to sping those props to 63.000 RPM
Whats the price tag for that drone and eyes? I've never seen something like that. Insanely fast and very impressive with the skills to fly it.
It depends, this drone and allot of other fpv drones ar custom built. The price depends on what parts you use.
Do you have a complete build list for that drone? I didn’t catch if it was all put together by you or if there is a stock model purchase? Great vid loved it from beginning to end. Keep up the good work.
I am skeptical, I have driven a car at 150 plus, it looks much faster than the video. My guess it looks about 80 to 100 mph. How did you get the reading? I'm not saying your lying, just that it doesn't look 165.
Richie Rich and I drive Indycar at 240 mph, speed is perceived differently from different perspectives. The method used is measuring a distance, laying out a beacon at point A then point B, and using a transponder to measure the time it took to cover that distance which gives you a very accurate speed. Much more accurate than gps or radar
Dude ... wow ...just wow!
Whoah, whoah whoah. I am a new FPV quad pilot. He is using only throttle to go faster at the same attitude/altitude. What tuning is this? What mode is this? If I did this in angle or horizon I would get dynamic lift and regular lift and I would be 500 feet in the air. I don't know what acro mode does, but I don't think it is this. So what magic sorcery is this?
Hahaha! Yes you can’t do this on horizon or angle. Acro once you make an input, the quad holds its attitude until you make an input to counter the first one. So essentially once you are in forward flight you don’t need to pitch forward and same for any other input
Ok I just got 2 ???. 1) What are the amps? (Amps times volts equals watts.) 2) how many G's is that thing pulling? I mean I could break the video down, but all I think of is that I'd pass out from that. The guy that hops up on the Gyro-tron & stands up!
John VanAsselberg II I would say close to 200 amps for the 2 second burst, and not sure about the Gs hahaha maybe double what a dragster car does
What charger do you recommend for this battery you use
That’s awesome! Do you have 2 capacitors? Where do you connect 2 capacitors on a 4 in 1 I thought you could only connect on the main battery terminal?
I’m using 2x1000 uf caps under the front arms. The Bolt esc has two placements for them on the front of the esc so I guess I could add a 3rd to the main batt lead if needed
GC Cannonball thanks, I’m not that familiar yet with raceflight products yet. I order the spark32 and millivoltosd and I’m gonna try to fit it in the massive Droner
You should call it the Screech! It sure is loud, and Fast for that matter! What is it's weight? How much for the build? Anyway Excellent video, and Happy Droning!™
hello my friend i wanna build same as yours just thinking can i use 45a ESC with those THor 2500kv motors
“It’s Fast”…….. ummmmm yeah you think?! Bananas great work
Yes, but I want to tell me the price of mator proshlys and the price of ESC security
good interesting vid whats your average flight may i ask ? im using 6s not on bi blades may have to give them ago 👉👍
BrOwNpAnTz I’m using bi blade on for speed runs only. My normal racing setup I use 1725kv motors on 6s and 5045 Tri blade. or 2650kv on 4s Tri blade also
oh ok thats interesting mine has the cobra 2207 2450kv motors and loving it BUT im liking the speed in this video 😁
I have been flying helis for 12 years. Love em. Just added a trex 700 to the fleet but after watching this I wish I could see it in person. Never seen a race quad in person but I'm a sucker for bad assery(word?) Which this thing is bad ass. I have to build one now. Those props sound so mean. Great flying. I might use your build as a guideline. Thanks for sharing
How do you like your ix12? I just upgraded to the ix12 as well. I really like it and it's got so much stuff that I got to get use to .I've been using the original dx7 since it came out so I've been outdated on that
xrguy650 I know a couple guys that fly helis and that’s how they started flying quads. It’s mesmerizing to to see how you guys can do all that crazy shit LOS! There are a few guys that do LOS with race quads and it’s a treat to watch as well
Well I've been pricing out parts and wow is this hobby cheap compared to helis. I can buy 4 motors I need for around 100. Funny I just told the wife no more this year after the 700. Now just wait till she sees me putting something new together. Lol. I figure the big money is in fpv. My budget is fairly open. What's a good decent fpv unit with range and little interference in your opinion.
xrguy650 well the best rigs are custom built. I suggest you join the Catalyst Machineworks Facebook group and make a post about what you want, and thru there, I and the owner of the company can suggest the best build and build it to order
After I come back from leaving town I'll get in touch. Would love some advice. I checked the website and will definitely support the store. I can't have you build it for me. That's the best part!
Bad ass man! Definitely some good flying i would have hit the ground, those power poles or ballooned to the moon for sure trying to fly at that speed haha. Or with my luck my quad would probably just atomize into a million pieces in mid air 😂. Keep it up brother definitely fun to watch!! 😮🤘👍
Did you have to turn motor output down or add a throttle cutoff?
Splif Multirotor Mayhem nope just let her eat. It’s really only about 2 seconds full throttle so it’s not sustained and no issue
People in those houses must love you.
Your method to get the speed is awesome. I usually strap my old Galaxy s5 to the bottom of my quad with a GPS speed app running lol. The weight obviously makes a difference but I'm never going for perfect accuracy anyway.
Cool vid!
Virtual Willis 😂 that will work I guess.
Where did you get it? How much is it ? give me a link please :)
WoW! Incred speed runs! Thanks for sharing.👍
Do you have to worry about desyncs when using this high kv on 6s?
Zephyr yes, keep the full throttle runs short and key motors cool between runs. This isn’t really ideal for bashing around
GC Cannonball good to know, how often would you say Desyncs happen when flying like this? Do the tips you gave me seem to prevent them altogether? Thanks! This high kv 6s stuff is no joke haha
Zephyr well I had one desync so far and it was attempting to cover a full mile with this setup. It lasted about 10-12 seconds before it spiraled out of the air
@@gabbychavesracing24 Thanks for the info, i'll definitely be full throttling less than that.
What maximum pawer having anybody motor?
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Can you test a vertical climb? How fast 500 meters streight up?
After watching two your video at this top of speed, I cannot understand what and how just you use speed meter on the drone? Thanks
Chuck Sandos I use a simple calculation of time over distance, which gives me the average speed over that distance. I have 2 beacons that are triggered when a signal goes over it. That gives me the time from A to B
Awesome machine bro! How much did this cost you overall?
what motors u got? would be nice to fill that up
I love the voice of iX12.
Wow those motors are massive for that size quad!
bro my drone raises up when i give it throttle, not like u, U flyin it in ACRO OR HORIZON MODE?
I know my build wont be as fast as yours, but for fun I would like to know how fast, I have started to use the gf7042 props with my 2508 1450kv motors on 5S, I have tried 6S but these props cant handle it, originally I intended to use 8inch props (APC 8060) but because of a design flaw with the motors they don't like props with inserts, the CW locknuts work lose pretty quickly
I didn't know APC made an 8060 that came in both directions. This is my APC 8045 quad on 6s with Garila 2506 motors. I want to try some 8060s th-cam.com/video/2qKfHw0j2PA/w-d-xo.html
how much does it cost to build one of those, I been considering it latley
A normal racing quad is around 100-150$, assuming you build it yourself. The goggles can range from 100-500$, batteries are 25$ each, and you need a lipo charger which are 50-60$, and a transmitter which is around 100$. A 6s build like this will cost way more for the quad, and you will need to have some pretty damn good soldering skills to solder it. Look up some videos and guides on building quads.(btw quad=quadcopter)
Minimal amount is usually $175 usd
I’m building my first ever and with everything including goggles I’m around $250-$300. I bought a fairly inexpensive build that will go only around 60-70mph. The transmitter and goggles are the two main big purchases and after that it’s fairly reduced pricing since you have those two components already.
e4Bc4Qf3QfI have more build than fly time... fear of destroying my precious builds xD only the self build naza ones flew more :D
Started with multiwii back then... unflyable at first because of the processing power and software :D
@@kwaggo462 what googles and transmitter did you buy
Damn! That's savage.
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