The Tragic Downfall of Cai Xukun
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He is literally the last person I would EVER imagine being in scandals this bad. Like the gasp that I had when the scandal was revealed. I'm generally losing faith in humanity because what in the hell is this behavior.
You should of been lost your faith since the day you was born.
Of a person that doesn't care about others and acts like that because never had to deal with consequences. Plus he have enablers.
If your faith in humanity is based on people from a misogynistic culture and you cannot see through this, im sorry.
If your faith is on a person you don't even know, I don't think your moral 🧭 is guiding you. Do you know someone that never made a mistake?
Yes, he is human, thus not perfect, and probably not even a good person, but what you know? Ehat do i know?
Only what he wants and is allowed to show.
So maybe start to see the mistakes, big and small and redirect your faith to yourself and try to be the best version of human being possible.
You will make mistakes, accept and deal with the consequences. Be honest to others, be be truthful to yourself.
Learn, grow, help, forgive and try to pass the message, you are the change you want to see in the world.
Don't expect from others what you cannot give.
Don't judge based on what other say. Don't judge at all, you are not better than anyone, if you think you are, rethink your values.
Be the person that will make you proud. But don't forget your mistakes, learn from them or you will repeat.
Is not easy, but you should be enough for yourself first.
Again, don't wait for other, be the change you want to see, with luck you will inspire others.
But what do I know?
I'm just a random person online. And often I say shht because whatever I say here, online, I can repeat to the ones that matters to me. They won't judge me, because they know who I am in the end.
@@killinpunchline Yeah I was saying what I personally thought about the situation and it was an agree or disagree type of thing. I do not need some random ass person telling me to "rethink my values" when you don't even know them to begin with. I never once said that I was better than anybody I simply said that as a child of this generation I'm disappointed and disgusted by the way grown ass adults act. So I really don't care if he's a normal person making mistakes I get that, but the extent of these scandals are what really pissed me off. do not try and make excuses with the whole "Humans make mistakes and you just need to grow from them" I'm not going to sit here and downplay the fact that he was accused of getting into a relationship with a 14 year old girl who so happens to be the same age as me. If does turn out to be true then no way in hell am I going to sit here and listen to some crap about growing when this man was a pedo. But I digress, if you want to try and make excuses go right ahead I do not care.
@jxxsime3307 Yeah, like I thought. I won't even point out what you didn't understand about what I said, the passive aggressiveness online this day, and the projection is disheartening. I'm more disappointed with myself for replying than with your answer. Today, we both learned something...
Well dont get fooled by his angelic face cause sometimes wolves cover themselves with sheeps cloth thats why i dont really trust people based on their looks i'd like to be with someone that i actually really know.
never thought someone like him would be caught in such a scandal.. i truly adored him back on idol producer...
SAME omg 😱
The scandal has resolved 😅
@@H1KU_0 how do you know?
@@jasonbefast it was resolved last week ago in weibo
@@H1KU_0 he provided an apology but he literally said that yes, he did get sexually involved with a 17 year old.
The respect I have for chen increases day by day. The way that man acknowledged his love and his baby Infront of the whole world without risking their safety is just commendable!!!!
Chen is not like these mfs , he is one of most genuine person to be alive and around , its not only admitted by fans but by general audience / friend / family , he was not afraid of admitting his love child and even accepted his gf as his wife , and now is blessed with not only one and two daughters . He has always been my fav celebrity not due to his talent alone but due him being himself , a pure soul and sunshine in human form
Ikr. My bias from the start. Hihi
Thanks for writing such a heartfelt message i am literally in tears @@abcdexu
Yess!! Also Bobby from IKON ❤
I would truly recommend for people to stay neutral. A scandal to this degree is horrific for a person’s career and I seriously hope the truth comes out so that the right people are punished and if they are false, Kun can attempt to clear his name. But considering the responses, I hope this doesn’t get swept under the rug.
。。。is true. he got cancelled in China. and his works got cancelled in Chinese authority media😂
@@vitaliiiiiiionothing is funny about tbh so idk why u would think it’s funny like it’s bad not only for him but the girl he got pregnant n his mother…
@@vitaliiiiiiioit's way too easy to get cancelled in China
Exactly
@@vitaliiiiiiiothere have been times celebrities were lied upon and China still banned them. Also sometimes celebrities get banned in China for something that isn’t terrible
I’ve been a fan of kun for a very long time and I’ve been a fan of many idols who have been accused and then the allegations came out to be false so I’m staying neutral on this
i agree, im staying natural. i’ve known kun (not personally but like knew who he was) for a while, and with all the false rumor and accusations that got idles careers (garam, soojin, lucas, etc.) ruined, i really hope these are all just false accusations that someone made because they were jealous or that kun was “overshadowing” their favorite idle. once again im not saying these are not true but i hope their not 100% true☹️
Fr in this kind of industry so many rumors happen and they turn out innocent
same. way too many toxic stans that would do anything to bring anyone down for a reason that doesn't even concern them.
But it could be true too, this wouldn't be the first time a celebrity abused their power and position.
neutral cause his good looking?? idk why some of his fans are being blinded by truth. Just because that is their idol? why they cant just accept the facts that their idols are humans too weather they are good looking or not they could also do bad and unacceptable crimes just like some normal people do. Best example for these celebrities that has been proved to do bad things is Kris Wu and Kim Seon Ho
I don't know why after any celebrity starts to get famous every time any kinds of scandal pops up making them leave their career. And some "Fan" also tries to drag their favourite idol down without knowing the full story. I feel bad for all the idols who lost their career due to these rumours
Due to kun's growing popularity and brand endorsement may be other party is trying to defame him or for the money we cannot jump into conclusions by just the information we have from social media cuz there is a real world out of it and many truths are hidden from the media
and who said this case is fake? your fanaticism? he admitted he was in a relationship with her and his mother threatened her to get rid of the baby, he also got involved with his mother.
I thought k-sasaengs are scary, but that nitpicking and investigating of the police report, was ingenious and thorough , c-netizens are scarier
I thought the same thing.....until I got into Cent....lol....Knets mostly just talk shit and criticise and worse case scenario bully( whoch is the worse)....but Cnets....can literally group into a mass of anti fans either by themselves or by competitors....to down a celeb in a matter of hours...they can be permanently ban and erased whether allegations are true, false, distorted....as long as the public opinion is against you...your career is done and less likely of coming back....Atleast with Knets....there is a way for second chances or forgiveness... lol
Crazy people are crazy people, whatever their nationality is.
I learnt that Chinese fans are the worst.
The things they do.. ita terrible
kuns parents didnt "pull him out bc he was too young" lmao he thought that getting his education was more important
And that’s good, because education is important, and he was young at the time like really young so I’m happy to his parents didn’t let him in the industry at that time
@@Sophie_77are we gonna ignore that he groomed children..?
@Ipromiseyounobodyismad thats not the point here tho?
@@Ipromiseyounobodyismadis there any evidence he “groomed” children
Great! He’s still a weirdo though
As someone else mentioned, I think we should stay neutral. No hate towards the woman and no hate towards Cai Xukun. There are always two sides. There is a possibility that she used it to blackmail him. things like that happen, so the mother of Cai Xukun isn't completely in the wrong for looking for clues (maybe the methods weren't completely right idk). Even if she didn't want to destroy his career it might be because of money. However, there are also many cases where idols used the disadvantage in the power dynamic. And then of course it can be very mentally draining for the woman and is just an unfair situation for her. I'd wait and see what the judges say. I don't know how but I think we need more protection for men and women in both situations.
Ikrr if it was the case of a minor it wasn't rape and both has the consent and may be the girl is trying to defame kun because of its huge growing popularity i just hate it when the netizens jump into conclusion based on smthg that is posted on social media
There are many truths that's hidden and not posted.. until and unless they know the whole case and are related to that case they shouldn't judge
His mother's cheapness got him cancelled
She asked a mediator to deal with the girl
After the girl agreed to 5 million rmb. She only got 500 thousand
Cai's mother promised she pay the mediator. But she kept on delaying it. When the mediator asked CAI to pay, CAI was like 'its my mother's problem not mine.'
The mediator got angry and exposed this matter to public
@user-ek3yr9ep4b 5million is a lot just to keep her mouth shut but cai should have paid that sum
@@arkc19
That's right
His mother is so cheap
He should be happy that the girl agrees to take the money and go
@@user-ek3yr9ep4b giving her some money would keep her quiet as both agreed on abortion and CAI could earn that money anytime as he was sooo busy attending met gala and fashion shows
Sketchy but innocent until proven guilty. If these accusations were really true, why are they going to social media instead of the police? It makes no sense.
It's already delt with by the police....Ms. C had his signature on police documents and the ones from another acuser about minor and drugs are all fake.
Cuz that would make more dificult for their pr team to cover
@@AyAReI00 Referring to the victims, not the dude with the pr team who's being accused of pedophilia. Last I checked you report crimes and criminals to the police, not to social media.
I get what you're saying with this argument but someone as big as him might be able to influence the police with bribery. He certainly has the money to do it. So, it would make sense for a victime to take to social media first because not only would the news spread faster but they would then have people backing them up especially on something as serious as this. Still, I do agree with your original sentiment. Let's hope that nobody got hurt.
@@blackcatvibez990 exactly!!! Thanks for actually thinking not like fans of this male ídols, obviously they don't want to give the oppirtinity of cover it up ... They want to be hear, they want their feelings to be listen to and reach other possible víctims .. it has to be frustrating knowing that the whole world SEE a dude as an inocent baby while in reality date teens and ask women for abortions :T
I remember this guy being the host of iqiyi's ywy2
when i saw him with Lisa i was so shocked on how sweet and kind he was, honestly we will never ever know what idols really do. At this point we cant trust anyone
He was cleared and is finally back!!!
@mika77772 Please tell me what really happened?
Guys for people who think that they should hate him or take sides I want to remind you all that you were not present when this things allegedly happened.
We have no idea of who is right or wrong.
How many times have fans caused problems bc of they took sides ex. with Garam, Woojin, Lucas...
The only thing we should do is stay still and be neutral, that is it. Nothing else.
As time passes by the truth will eventually come out.
Everytime I feels like fans never learn from the previous mistakes wich is surprising.
Every accusation should be taken with a grain of salt so don't try to say she is right or he is right and blah blah blah. Just stay out of it!
Exactly. We’ve made a mistake of constantly taking sides and ruining people careers, often what fake accusers want us to do. It’s way in the modern age, the “always taking the victims’s side” mentality flawed. But you also can’t just throw away the victim’s accusations either so it’s better to just stay neutral.
THANK YOU
fans never learn and probably never will, which is rlly sad
I strongly agree too,we've already ruined too many careers and now its the best to stay neutral until an official statement has been made.
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert is KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
Sex (fact, no issue)
Abortion (fact, no issue legally but ethically only. I believe he didn't force (more like his mom)
Money to pay off (done by mom fact, paid lesser than agreed)
Still don't unds what he did wrong (fact)
Its totally different from having needs.
@@HanY-gf3sx so is he innocent or not ???
Why does all the Chinese Artists I support end up in scandals??
maybe I shouldn't trust anyone
EDIT: after a reflection, if these are rumors, then i truly feel sad for his career...but as someone who grew up around the internet age, we are always told to sympathize with the victim(for ex: the bullying scandals) who, in the narrative comes forward first and has a clear disadvantage in the power dynamic
(there is a reason the media immediately took amber heard's story and ran with it - in this wave of feminism we are taking women's accusations as the truth - and we can see how it ruins actual rape survivors from seeking justice
but that is a conversation for another day)
This was a immediate knee-jerk response to the video as a result of it- i don't mean to point fingers at anyone
i did like him in idol producer- loved his chemistry with lisa in ywy2. and i really hope the truth comes out soon
Because average Chinese men act like this too. Not even Chinese women are fond of them..
they love children over there, alongside stereotypes of em beating their women lol
Nah gurl most of them ain't even at fault most are just being acused I'm not a fan of him bust somehow I don't believe it
Same here like I supported kris wu with full heart he was my celeb crush now I kinda regret
@@mahastianwar1216 if these are rumors, then i truly feel sad for his career...but as someone who grew up around the internet age, we are always told to sympathize with the victim who, in the narrative comes forward first and has a clear disadvantage in the power dynamic
This was a immediate knee-jerk response to the video as a result of it- i don't mean to point fingers at anyone
i did like him in idol producer- loved his chemisry with lisa in ywy2. and i really hope the truth comes out soon
personally, the part of his statement where he says “there’s no such thing as a woman being underage” is what stands out to me & what i truly find alarming. it could be a mistranslation but there are A LOT of people who think this way. for example, on the last video about Seo Taiji, there were a lot of people in the comments who were defending him & saying things like “it’s none of our business! dating shouldn’t be a scandal”, “age is just a number”, and “the age of consent is 13 in korea!” (he met his wife when she was 13/14 and he was 21 … then he waited until she was of legal age (18 y/o) to marry her))
it’s DISGUSTING for an adult to have any interest in a child. no matter how legal something may be, it can still be ETHICALLY WRONG! if he had any sexual/intimate contact with that CHILD (especially if he drugged & raped her), he deserves prison time & whatever equivalent to being put on a sex offender registry.
side note: 1) i had no idea who this guy was until today. you cannot accuse me of being biased.
2) i’m running on fumes so i apologize if this doesn’t make sense 😅
@@Alice-cb7jgthat how I interpreted it. Context clues go a long way lol. I wish there was a better translation
It also could be the case that minors lie about their age. It’s very common with fans and two girls both were fans. Not taking a side but now a days minor knows many ways to fool adults and starts are sometimes dumb to be careful because most of the time their staff, PR, managers and security takes care of things. That can easily mess up things.
@Alice-cb7jg that's how I interpreted too. Referring that they were both consenting adults.
There is no such thing the woman was underage, not a woman
Absolutely 👍🏽
You should make more videos about the Cpop Industry, not only about the bad news, but also about positive ones. Cpop is getting more and more popular these days 😊♥️
can u list out some cpop idols that u adore？
@@vitaliiiiiiio I wouldn't say adore, but here are some artists I listen to:
Groups: INTO1, ONER, WayV, D.N.A, DREAM4, BOYHOOD, ENONE, 时代少年团, OZONE, U:NUS, AcQUA, FEniX, ALLIN5, BOYSTORY, WARPs UP, MIRROR, PANTHEBACK, NAME, SNH48, 7SENSES, HUR, COLLAR, G.O.F, PINKFUN, After Class, Mr. Tyger, Zero-G, Core One, A-Team, Team Spark, Awaken-F, Tangram, NEXT, BBT...
Idols: LAY, Jackson Wang, Amber Liu, Meng Jia, Wang Feifei, Lisi Danni, JUN, KUN, Lil Ghost, Azora Chin, Chen Linong, Yao Bonan, Zhou Zhennan, Zhao Lei, Zhao Rang, Yao Chen, Liu Ye, Fu Jing, Meng Meiqi, Yu Yan, An Qi, Lu Keran, Nineone, Vava, Lexie Liu, Yuqi, Alfred Sun, Fan, Tan Jianci, Liu Yu, Santa, Rikimaru, Daniel Zhou, Øzcar Wang, Caelan...
Other artists: Jolin Tsai, G.E.M, Eric Chou, Mayday, Accusefive, Trash, Nickthereal, Karencici, Vanness Wu, KIRE, ØZI, Marz23, W.M.L, OSN, Eve Ai, Jike Junyi, Jane Zhang, JJ Lin, Young Captain, Ryan.B, Tian Yi, Dian Ding, Hua Chenyu, Zhou Shen, Hins Cheung, Jay Fung, Howz, Ak Benjamin, Kanna Bush, Feng Ze, Patrick Brasca, Juice Boy, Ice Paper...
@@vitaliiiiiiio The thing is, that solo artists are way more famous and popular than groups. Groups often don't have many music videos and their quality is nothing compared to Kpop. But the music videos of solo artists are often much better! Especially the ones of taiwanese and hongkongese artists
@@KylaSchmitt thx for recommend. cuz the environment for idols in China is not as mature as in Korea, so absolutely cpop idols don't have much opportunity to receive professional trainings and stage to show their charm. plus, the kpop is much competitive than cpop
@@KylaSchmitt eyyy my first time seing someone talk about a bunch of singers/artists and me auctually knowing most of them
I don't see any damning evidence, so I'll wait to see what happens. Been through this too many times where the person was wrongly accused with fake "evidence" and their career was ruined even tho they were proven innocent. Is this a bitter ex wanting revenge or was he actually abusive? Only time will tell. That he was in a relationship alone will hurt his popularity, and that much at least seems to be true. Granted, I don't know if it's as crazy with C-Pop as it is with K-Pop as far as idols and relationships go.
The Chinese media is great with erasing one of their most popular idols. I don't have anything to say about the scandal as the last time I kept up with Cai was during Idol Producer but the way the media didn't hesitate at all after Cai didn't have anything to back up his innocence is impressive
Well at least he’s not banned by the government. It’s just the entertainment industry cares only about money so if your image is tarnished, no tv company or station will want to hire him anymore. He’s not like able by the public so companies won’t risk using him until he’s proven innocent which I think will be hard cuz it does seem like he slept around.
@k3n4ableyep ur right the tv industry is conducted by the Chinese government, if a celebrity bugg them they create something to pan him out 🎉 😊 they already did it with a lot of influencer and actors/actresses before.
Because it’s the only thing the younger generation in china are addicted to, it’s a hunting game were they eliminate those who get high stand in the society
@@Kat-nc8rf the problem is not about him sleeping around lol. its about knowing he doesn't want kids, yet doesn't use protection either side (woman and male). then choosing abortion when pregnant. (even tho legal and i believe he didnt force it) but its unethical esp in China's conservative culture.
loved him in idol producer and youth with you ;; i dont know what to think now
I think other fans of Xukun are just jumping to conclusions. In today’s world, the entertainment industry is brutal and anybody is ready to make up nuisance to take down an artist. I would refrain from just believing scandals these days and wait for something concrete
After reading almost every comments, i think non fans (or may be who dislike or may be some normal people) of kun also jumping straight to conclusions. I agree with your last words rather than believing scandals just wait for something concrete
Same
its concrete, he alr admitted abortion even tho not forced. its enough in China's conservative culture.
Guys I'm just gonna say this. Go search up this case yourself and take whatever you want to believe yourself🤷 I've had enough from the Soojin and Garam scandals 😢
Also Woojin, Lucas, Jimin from AOA...
That’s what I’m saying. Look at hyunjin from stray kids already with his scandals. I simply can’t trust “victims” at all.
Those scandals have nothing to do with this but I agree with your first part
@@npc9207 What I mean is that I've come to understand that there terrible people who just want to destroy that was why I talked about Soojin and Garam
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
Isn't it kind of suspicious that 2 of the most well known Chinese idols have been wrapped up in these kinds of scandals? I wonder how much of this is true and how much of it is a set-up.
i went to his concert in sg and he kept on apologising and thanking everyone. u could tell his mood was alot sadder compared to b4 the sg concert and he didnt fan interact except thanking and didnt encore. hoping everything turns out ok though, ive followed him for 7years so im staying neutral since idk if its true or not.
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
@@HanY-gf3sx I am a fan of him since Youth with you 2. Of couse he is a super good looking guy and talened. I am looking forward to see who will be the lucky girl. After the rumore bad news about him. OMG he has several kids with difference mothers and the lastest was about one night stand and abortion, another case have sex with underage 18. It seems like his mother is covering for him so he does not has face the consequences. He does not ressponsiblity anything just focus of work only. Now I look at him, he is not good guy any more. Of couse most of the girls fall in love him and support him even his behavior like a playboy.
@@prapatsornphankhum7653 oo i heard about the firstborn with an entertainment industry veteran lady when cxk was 19 years old. Thus his powerful connections.
Diidn't know he have so many others all diff woman
@@prapatsornphankhum7653 He confirmed that the news of him sleeping around was fake, and that both sides consented to everything. Please don't spread fake rumours.
Tbh it surprises me, considering he's always been clear minded and very focused in his goals. I do remember he was confused with someone else for this exact reason and he has continue working, even tho his reputation fell a bit because of that
Now, if this is true, well man, disappointing. But the Chinese industry nor the police/goverment forgive any of this. So if is true, he'll prolly won't be able to keep his career and it'll be clear for all of us. So let's wait first
Well damn.. I just started getting into him and thought he was very good looking ugh.. idk if it's true or not I haven't been a fan of his long so idk bout the history of his legal probs he has faced.. I mean fans do crazy things we have all seen it and we have seen it mess up idols careers and it be lies so idk.. hopefully the truth does come out and whoever is wrong gets the punishment they deserve.. to me he is innocent until proven guilty.. anyone can fake a ultrasound and anyone can say they are pregnant by someone when the guy isn't isn't dad etc ppl fake alot of shit for attention and there are guys who are pervs so this one is hard..
Actually it's all revealed already.... Its all true except for the last one with alleged minor....
Ms. C got pregnant, they both agreed to an abortion and ended their contact as the situation was resolved.
His mom actually caused the situation to get exposed as Ms.C was emotionally damaged by her for illegally monitoring her via CCTV installed by the mother....Ms. C called the police and they had to pay her all the damages she suffered....
When on earth people will learn to stay neutral?? Miss C and him, both were adults and already resolved everything long time ago. The only issue here is his mother taking such hideous actions. Moreover, it was already proved that the picture leaked with the alleged 'minor' wasn’t even actually them. It was posted by an influencer couple long time ago and they even filed a complain of fabricating the issue using their pictures. My heart hurts seeing all these people hating him. I'll keep supporting Kun untill he's ultimately proven guilty.
This is why anyone that wants to become an idol should stay out of trouble because at some point your career will get ruined when the bad secrets are revealed and exposed
I hope this gets settled down. Kun, yup, we don't wanna lose someone like him. He's been a hope and an icon for so many people in and out of the entertainment industry. I genuinely think he's a good guy. Let's see what happens and stay neutral
in situations like this u should always stay neutral so i'm staying neutral
Stephanie Soo's video brought me here, shocked I had no idea about this. I remember loving idol producer so much in 2018.
What is up with grown men being attracted to kids like this is getting really unhealthy and toxic
Don't worry, it's confirmed that the girl wasn't a minor, and that both sides had consented and settled the matter back a few years. It's just the woman picking it up and faking details
honestly at this it's difficult to believe claims like these After what happened with Lucas, Jimin from AOA etc It's difficult to believe a "victim" based on "chats" and "pictures like ultrasound"
everyone, lets stay neutral, lets wait for a *FINAL* verdict on the whole situation
I remember this dude on the Idol Producer show when I was unemployed. I found his style unique and he had the aura of GDragon. Shame things turned out this way. He was or is a really talented guy.
I am living in a boarding school and i had 5 days holidays and the second i open my youtube i search for scandals, like when i saw the scandal my reaction and the way i gasped like literally i never thought someone like him would get caught in a scandal.
Bro his popularity was insane like im not even into chinese entertaining industry and i knew who he was such a shame
Wow I'm so shocked with this news after so long not hearing any news abt him
Back in idol producer, he was my first idol crush...I was a huge NINE PERCENT fan...I truly hope these arent true because this is horrible
Actually I am not that person who likes to take sides in such situations! Eventhough my guesses always ended up being right if I took a side!
And especially with Idols is such an issue! We don't know them and there is always a 50/50 chance of the outcome!
But here with him, I am very sure that he isn't at fault, and that women is abusing that privilege to destroy him! I have been reading a lot of articles especially the ones accusing him.
I decided to trust him, and I am very confident here that he isn't at fault and there are many proves too which I found!
Keep fighting Cai Xukun I support you!
just call him kun lmao nobody calls him xukun
lmfao fr!!
Hmm
either caixukun or kun
Bro has so many allegations against him and some are criminally bad but you wanna point out how to say his name 💀 like bffr
@@lilithyolanda9851ikr 😭
I think we should just wait and see what unfolds as we all have seen many big scandals like this came out to be false so i am staying neutral and waiting for the truth.
not related but i always watch ur videos to sleep, i love them tbh
He is BACK 🔥🔥🥳🥳
First Kris Wu and Now Cai Xukun 😟 what the f is going on 💔
When I tell you that I literally gasped. What…this is actually crazy.
people need to stay neutral and calm against this as many scandals to this level have been proven to be false, so believe ur idol and stay calm!!
How many of these scandals like this have been fake and have literally ruined people’s careers and livelihood I would personally wait till the whole truth is out before agreeing
The ugliest thing is sleeping with a minor and forcing her to get an abortion. That’s disgusting behavior, and it likely happens way too often in showbiz. Otherwise, I hope he fights back if it isn’t true because that kind of rumor will ruin you. The higher you climb the further you fall.
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
i just wasted 9 minutes of my life on nothing, leave the people live bro stop obsessing
I've never expected XuKun to get into such a serious scandal, but again it's better to stay neutral until all information revealed. No celebrity is innocent, virgin angels, they date like normal people & do mistakes like normal people. The celebrity hunting & cancelling thing in China has gotten worse & it's possible there is some government iinvolvement in this. Since Xukun is such a famous figure it's possible other companies are trying to ruin his carrier to suppress the competition.
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
😮 truly, one shouldn’t judge things or a person simply by their image or appearance, it’s always “seems to be” a good person (guy) that suddenly turns out “to be a villain” which brings shocking results to everyone esp. their loyalty fans. In fact there were several such sexual scandal cases i.e Show Lo, Kris Wu, Leehom Wang, Seungri, Mickey Huang (黄子佼), NoNo (Taiwan comedian), Cai Xu Kun, etc. Whether they’re from Taiwan, China or Korea, probably even more which is still uncovered or unexposed yet🧐 Disappointment.
Damn! The story sounds like a usual idol revenge chinese novel 💯 I'm shooktttttt
Kris Wu can't stop shapeshifting 😒😒😒😒
Even the girls are at fault
Wow I was surprised when I saw this. I read some articles regarding this. I'm gonna be neutral in this.
One thing I found ridiculous was that some netizens are claiming that Kris Wu's team hacked his account. And people are sending hate to Lay Zhang coz he was Kun's mentor.
(Netizen really are crazy they can show hell and heaven especially Chinese netizens)
I'm going to stay neutral, because in the end Garam was not the victim, Soojin too and LUCAS? He was innocent too, so I don't believe in scandals anymore without good proof and after seeing all of what happened in the entertainment industry, I know fans and HATERS can be crazy at time, so I'm neutral. And I know that companies always tell the idols to apologize even if the story may have a different side.
I'm going to withhold judgement until all facts and evidence are out in the open. If a court-issued statement is later released I will take that into consideration as well before making up my mind on the subject.
I only saw him as a mentor on youth with you ( the season where esther yu participated as a contestant) and he gave me weird vibes then
Not me you cannot accuse seomeone just bc of vibes in situations like this we stay neutral until truth comes out
@@andjelabozovic7365 I'm not accusing him, I just saw him on the show and didn't like him cause he seemed arrogant
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
I get what you mean. I feel the same.
I’ve been a fan of him. For a very long time if out there are people that are truly fans of him then we should support him why only believe the lady
not really his fan. but the lady story is kind of phoney tho. like it happens 2 YEARS AGO???? why the heck is she bringing up now.
@@ezhelioss no she waited for him to do well with his career and then destroy him like what the heck girl why would you do that
@@jasminelee395 right
coz cxk mom kept stalking even after settlement (abortion). Also, happened 2 years ago doesn't erase someone's unethical doing. Imagine a killer kill someone, then became famous, but came to light 10 years later. You will say it happened 10 years ago, why bring it up?
To be fair, even tho I'm not his fan, I stayed neutral.
I believe that he didn't force the girl for abortion, but a suggestion was definitely done, and the girl accepted it. He's still young, and seeing how his mom is involved, pretty sure his mom handled most of the wiping his ass part.
The settlement amount promised was given much less, prolly his mom's doing.
BUT recently he said in his concert in KL Malaysia : "I also have needs." made me lose all the respect for him.
It shows that he still thinks he did nothing wrong, or don't even know what he did wrong.
The issue wasn't about him having sex with someone (his needs). Nobody cares if he have sex or not.
Problem is as a celeb, he knew that he didn't want a baby but yet he chose not to use a protection and then agrees for abortion (not forcing). Means he knew the risk and took it because he knows he thought he can get away with it. Its just so not responsible at all. Yes, you want sex is fine, but use protection, if don't want protection, don't just use money to initiate abortion (even if its legal in China).
I can't believe people still support him and he still hold concert. Imagine you or your daughter getting impregnated (voluntary) then told to get abortion (not forced). Even though its not legally wrong, its just so unethical. And he holds concert 2 months after the scandal, shows that he literally have no shame or don't think he did anything wrong. Why can't he just use condoms if he really needs sex and don't wan any kids right now? No sense of responsiblity at all, but no surprise since hes still 25 only and chose to let his mom handle everything (which made things worse).
Its totally different from having needs.
At the same time, what is up with East Asian music industries regarding scandals like these? They have a lot of problems that need to be fixed, and people need to be held accountable. This is similar to NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB players involved in similar scandals.
Bruh it’s giving me flashbacks of the kris wu case all over again 😢😭😭
my friend really loves him and I know nothing about him but wow...
thing is he acc admitted they were in a relationship which is more than most would do. i don’t however believe the underage stuff cos it doesn’t seem to evidence based- pregnancy seems pretty true but the way the abortion happened seems unclear too
I heard saw somewhere it's fake. the girl and the reporter fabricated the whole picture. The real guy in that picture actually speak up and say it's him, not xukun.
But i will see how xukun's situation unfold. now is too early to decide, whether he is drop or not. I'm still suscribing to his YT channel.
Staying Neutral!!
Yooo I voted for him in IP religiously. I was so in love with him then. This is kinda hard to swallow. 😞
What's happening with Chinese Showbiz. So many stars getting exposed for horrendous scandals
they're just so irresponsible for their fans and the threshold for entering entertainment industry in China is so low that most Chinese celebrities are messy,both with their shitty performance and fake persona😂😂
This is what will happen if ppl worship them like gods. In China it's particularly pronounced.
@@natsumeGO correct
Ever since idol producer I never liked his image or his songs as they were all super cheesy, but I appreciated him being nice to Lisa when she had language barriers as a mentor… he seems like a cringey guy, but I always found his character to be sincere and nice… I’m not a fan so I don’t have a strong stance, but he hardly seems like the type to dabble in such scandals… then again you never know what comes to power tripping celebrities minds. Until there is an official police report I’m not sure what to believe
same tbh
i was never into his songs because i dont generally like love songs and just like fast paced happy songs about love so yk never rlly paid too much attention to that
mostly i only know him because i watch keep running (he wasnt rlly funny either and tbh i wouldn't watch a show for him specifically but his interactions with other mcs were fun and he was wholesome and nice but i never rlly paid attention to him by himself)
neutral is the best way to go imo 👍
for me he just kinda exists and thats it lol
As there are not much unfolding with the case as of now, neutrality is evidently the best precaution to take as falsely accusing someone may ruin their lives for an indefinite amount of time. Not taking sides here, only stating that aside from those directly involved with the case, none of us know what truly really went down or anything...Not gonna lie though, I was not expecting him to be centered on such a scandal.
THIS GUY?!! I'm not a "fan" fan but damn this guy looked/looks likeable. How strange even idols like them get caught up in these crimes. I can only hope it's false and he hasn't done any harm to anyone but IF it's true, boy oh boy he deserves jail
that's why he was edited out on keep running ep 11. During bts he was there but during the ep 11 he wasn't there anymore.
The thought I had while reading chinese novels were that they were all bluff. It seemed ridiculous. But knowing about different scenarios happening in China it kind of seems true.
I think we should stay neutral as cases like these are rampant these days. Didn't we all learn from Woojin, Lucas and Ravn's cases?
But chinese netizens are very aggressive. He is very popular there but also has lots of antifans.
i miss lucas
Yall I worried now because I keep thinking of him and wherever I start thinking about them a lot happens something bad happens to them. 😮
I hope people stay neutral cause we never know what’s really going on
I hope he will be fine
i think we should stay neutral and have patience with this thing , and wait for the truth to come out
Keep running used to be my favourite show, but after I did research I am never watching it again
If you’re quitting keep running because of a scandal of one cast, then I think it’s your mental problem.
Any update regarding to this issue of kun?
He is my favorite Kpop singer I am huge fan of him.
😂kpop singer lol
Never hold anyone to a high moral standard. He's a flawed human like the rest of us. Hope everyone involved comes out of the situation safely.
If people have done anything to make In uncomfortable is similar where I paying for big industries and moves somewhere far away from all of it. Starting with square 1. Getting life back on track too.
The end of an era😔. I remember in 2018/19 my guy friends from China HATED him. We would watch videos of him in class and my friends would cringe. It was a running joke. Those were good times. Things really are over now😔
My 1st time to hear about this guy
Same 💀
He's a Chinese idol....If one isn't into Cent....then high chance he won't be known.... Unlike Jackson Wang , Wang Yibo and Lay who were all Chinese Kpop idols...
this is so crazy, i can't believe he and his mum would do that
What do you mean removed from youth with you? That show finished with him hosting from beginning to end. He was never removed because he was never meant to host the male’s next season
Guys doesn't this sound similar to Kris wu's case ??!!
It seems people in this comment session forget these idols are men, grown men, and there is nothing worse than a man who is rich and famous. I believe her unless more proof this wasn't true comes to light.
I feel really bad because i always looked up at him as a idol...
I know this might seem like a really small thing, but I'm autistic and I just wanted to say thank you for using identity-first language instead of person first. ❤️❤️
All these KTVs are such dangerous place for idols to go
Man I love Kun o really hope he’s not another cris wu
Tbh i also have a feeling that is fake I asked my friends abt this they r big fans of him and said he’s not rlly like this but we have seen these issues r in K-pop as well so we gotta see some really real proof but I guess so
Someone is bitter. Well, nobody know the truth other than him and the girl he get involved with. People can be wicked now day.
Ok , idk anything about this and that but just based on audio recordings when we are in an era where AI is so good at dubbing and mimicking other people seems dumb
Cai Xukun? like how? from what i've seen of him on various shows and events, he seems like someone who would never ever get caught up in these things, i really hope the real truth behind this event comes forth soon and we get to know the reality behind the situation, because if it's true...then i'm seriously losing faith in humanity and also in the glamour of the entertainment industry.
It's been addressed months ago on his Weibo account and his studio. He did have a relationship, but he said not to believe the rumors and false info spreading... he filed a lawsuit against the paparazzi for defamation (so it was really false cause he didn't even post the part 2 scandal lol). Posted too to show us. Then on November 22, 2023 he released his new official song called Spotlight... so he isn't exactly cancelled. Listen to the song. It's in English. ❤
As a fan of Cai kun, i hope this is not true and i think they really need to investigate carefully and Now there are many technologies available that can imitate a person's voice... I really hope that Cai kun is... I don't know, but i really hope, 🙏 I'm sad and heartbroken if it real!?
If I am not wrong he is the one who was bullied in school right?(he literally gained a lot of sympathy after that) I can’t believe he did this 😩😩😩. Hope the truth comes out
Probably something to do with psychology. Those who get mistreated or traumatized during young age are highly possible to do the same thing to others when they grew up.
I'm not gonna believe in this... So far a lot of accusations have come across as false and the girl also said paparazzi was actually using her... So going to stay neutral... It feels more like a moral problem rather than a crime... It looks like people will not think of him as the perfect guy people thought he was...and That would be it...
Honestly, I think he'll be fine as long as the r*pe assusations aren't true. I just wish his mom didn't get involved with the girl. Hypothetically speaking, even if it's not true or has been twisted his mom's careless comments will make everyone side the girl even if he didn't do anything wrong.
The more I continue to see similar "dating" accusations, the more I am becoming for the No Dating rule in the KPOP industry more and more LOL.
No dating is literally just a rule to protect idols from accusations like these.
@@gyrthez246
Not necessarily, the no dating rule really just means don’t get caught dating, and it harms idols more cause now fans believe they’re entitled to these idols and if they do get caught dating, fans believe they have every right to be mad which is why dating scandals are big in kpop
The more restrictions there are the more rebels you create. The kpop industry is far too controlling. Nobody should be encouraging the industry to maintain and create more rules. Don't complain about idols being overtly sexy or the increase of profanity being used on stage and in their music just to turn around and support Korea's controlling nature. If they don't cave to the pressure of being perfect while they're young they'll most definitely go wild when they get old enough to assert some type of agency in their life. Instead ppl should just teach their kids to be decent human beings.
@@animec-dramaskpop6362 Yeah only if your last piece of advice actually worked. If you've been a Kpop fan for more than a few months you would also know that it's commonplace for random people to maliciously accuse idols publicly like this of doing things they just didn't do.
No amount of raising the idol right prevents those malicious accusations.
There is nothing idols nor companies can do about accusations like that until they've already blown up to this degree, and now even if those accusations are proven false in a court of law, thanks to these armchair judges on the net that believe anything anybody says like it's gospel this guy has just had his whole life ruined.
Now even if everything is 100% proven false, that's it. His career is ruined, his life is over because now his name is associated with pedophilia accusations. He wouldn't even be able to get a normal job with his name being tainted so much even if every accusation was completely fabricated.
All of which could have been avoided and cleaned up real quick if there was a blanket firm dating ban. He'd still have his career and he wouldn't be in this shit regardless of whether he actually did it or not.
So yeah, there should be a dating ban, and for good reason... To prevent situations like this. Imagine if there was and the staff could prove his every movement? The accusations would immediately be proven to have no merit, legal action would be extremely swift with heavy punishment, and he'd still have everything.
The same reason as to why idols should be forced to stay in a dorm.. Because if they did you probably wouldn't see so many idols committing suicide as somebody would pretty much always be around.
@@Peikkey Then the no dating should be turned into an absolute blanket ban for reasons I already gave. We wouldn't have dating scandals like this at all then.
From what I've seen from testimony from former idols and idol trainees, in their case it was absolute no dating, like they said they would have their phones completely taken away, not allowed to have socials, were not allowed to interact with groups of the opposite gender or anybody that wasn't their staff, separate waiting rooms, etc. They said it was nearly impossible for them to slip notes even because dating was so banned.
I'd go with 'innocent until proven guilty by law' in this situation
I forgot about him. I don't even remember how I discovered him, but it was so long ago, and I loved that one song I knew by him. He's adorable.
Anyways
What exactly happened with him? Maybe I should watch the video to see first, huh lol