OK, found it. I've watched just about all your videos and must have forgot this one. I remember the small one you modded a lot. I found the same thing on frequency fall off. I tested a little on it. I guess something told me to pick it up cheap. It held up pretty well here for the price I paid.
I would imagine that the free HF meters hold up pretty well for the price. I've had pretty good luck with the cheaper meters I use to work on my bikes. They seem to last a few years and then I toss them out.
That was my thought too. If it works ok and will do the job for $26 it will be good just to leave in my truck tool box. I like leaving my better quality meters for the repair bench.
It's fine until the tool is damaged when you go to use it. I never paid more than $50 for a handheld meter until I started running these tests. Of course I only used them in the garage and really don't need much of a meter for that. But I am on meter number 4 now and think that in the long run, just buying a better class of meter would have been a smarter choice. A bit short sighted on my part and I really don't know what I would have bought back then. I bought a Fluke for a Christmas gift maybe 25 years or so ago and they are still using the meter. It's in rough looking shape. None of my cheap meters would have survived this.
Absolutely correct there. You get what you pay for most of the time. This was so cheap I thought if it lasts a few years with most likely little use on my band gigs just for checking cable continuity and occasionally the 120V line voltage from our power distribution rack that will be about it. I guess it is more out of curiosity to see how decent it was for $26 than anything. We have a main tool kit for the front of house PA truck that has a Fluke 117 in it for any higher voltages I might get into. Occasionally have to clamp on to the main legs of the entrance box to go to our power distro box. I'm usually the one that does it as nobody else has any experience at all in this area. I wired up a lot of CNC equipment on my job for 25 years with 3 phase and high voltage supplies in tube amps so I'm a little more experienced at higher energy power than any of our crew guys. I definitely would not use this on anything over 120V for sure. I did replace the cheap leads with one of my Probe Master sets to be safe in that area.
Hi I have the mastch ms8268 and I had a novelty, I was measuring the frequency of a transistor driver of a tv, but I forgot to change it for continuous voltage and measured the collector of the horizontal transistor and that made a short and now the multimeter does not want Measure FREQUENCY IN CONTINUOUS VOLTAGE. What do you think happened
I think what happened is you were measuring the frequency of a transistor driver of a tv, but I forgot to change it for continuous voltage and measured the collector of the horizontal transistor and that made a short and now the multimeter does not want Measure FREQUENCY IN CONTINUOUS VOLTAGE. That's what I think happenedRead more Show less Reply 1 Pin Pin this comment? Loading... If you already pinned a comment, this will replace it Working... CancelPinRemove Report spam or abuse Hide user from channel
I noticed you haven't tested very many bk precision meters. Is there a reason or just hasn't come up? Id be willing to buy a couple brand new bk meters. New in box with receipt to donate to your channel? I've always liked bk products and curious how they hold up
I think if you take the time to check the spreadsheet you will only find one BK. It was one of the more expensive meters in that batch and performed poor.
Well, I propose use your current esd gun and try to follow some of the JEDEC JS-001 standard (regarding to the num of pulses between the pins), an using the claimed voltage protection for the particular IC (for example: the lm358 claims 250v protection with the JS-001, meanwhile the voltage reference isl2009 claims up to 6kv with hbm and 2kv with cdm). I know that follow a standard rigorously will be very time-consuming (for say something), so I am not asking for it, just to have an idea about the esd protection on the ICs.
Normally, with a loose IC we would handle ESD by preventing it. Once the IC is placed, we may still have handling problems but once things are packaged up, its down to the circuit design. You need to consider the failure may not be instant. The gun I made can't adjust the peak voltage or change the model type. I wanted to get close to that 15A 4KV sub ps IEC standard.
Great review Joe. You certainly put these meters through a lot of punishment. I have the Greenlee equivalent of your favorite Bryman meter. I do prefer an older Hioki 3801-50. It has served me well and offers features that other meters don't have. Keep up the good work, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and expertise in this area. Don M.
Hey Don. Glad you enjoyed the review. I like the HIOKI products I have used. They make some very nice test equipment. I looked at getting the DT4282 for home use but like the Brymen's two temperature inputs, bar graph and higher res. I think I show the high res for the first current sweep.
Joe, Any chance the ANENG is free of the AC bug. I know the are physically the same but I wonder if their measurement ICs are different firmware. I can take a photo of the innards of mt ANENG if that would be helpful. Steve J., Portland, OR
That was a very strange bug where you can't read voltage. You would just need to try it. Like many of these low end meters, they typically get damaged beyond repair.
I just use 220VAC that is full wave rectified then into the meter. Switch it from AC to DC to AC. The AC should read low. Don't believe that 20A burden voltage number!
This is a great low price multimeter. I have been using it almost daily for 3 years and I haven't been able to kill it yet unlike some other cheapos I have bought
That AC voltage bug is quite dangerous! You could go pokey-pokey thinking it's only a couple of volts and get a punk hairdo (if you have hair which I think is overrated).
I have one of these...perfect for the last 3 years for my use...came with ceramic fuses of the correct rating and I don't get the bug AC to DC or Vice versa....model serial number is probably later than yours.
Just in case it wasn't clear, that meter was damaged beyond repair and sent to the recycle bins. Much like other low end meters I have looked at. The only way for me to read out the PROM is to buy another meter. You may want to check the EEVBLOG and see if someone there could get it for you. Good luck.
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Your reviews are great. Next time I buy a meter I will feel comfortable and safe with my choice because of your channel.
Awesome torture test, waiting for next reviews, btw BM869s is also my favourite DMM.
thanks for the video. i always enjoy watching your videos.
Thanks.
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i have the same dmm only the name is diff mine is ZOTEK.. anyways your video is really nice to watch and its comprehensive.. 👍
Thanks. Glad you are enjoying them.
OK, found it. I've watched just about all your videos and must have forgot this one. I remember the small one you modded a lot. I found the same thing on frequency fall off. I tested a little on it. I guess something told me to pick it up cheap. It held up pretty well here for the price I paid.
I would imagine that the free HF meters hold up pretty well for the price. I've had pretty good luck with the cheaper meters I use to work on my bikes. They seem to last a few years and then I toss them out.
That was my thought too. If it works ok and will do the job for $26 it will be good just to leave in my truck tool box. I like leaving my better quality meters for the repair bench.
It's fine until the tool is damaged when you go to use it. I never paid more than $50 for a handheld meter until I started running these tests. Of course I only used them in the garage and really don't need much of a meter for that. But I am on meter number 4 now and think that in the long run, just buying a better class of meter would have been a smarter choice. A bit short sighted on my part and I really don't know what I would have bought back then. I bought a Fluke for a Christmas gift maybe 25 years or so ago and they are still using the meter. It's in rough looking shape. None of my cheap meters would have survived this.
Absolutely correct there. You get what you pay for most of the time. This was so cheap I thought if it lasts a few years with most likely little use on my band gigs just for checking cable continuity and occasionally the 120V line voltage from our power distribution rack that will be about it. I guess it is more out of curiosity to see how decent it was for $26 than anything. We have a main tool kit for the front of house PA truck that has a Fluke 117 in it for any higher voltages I might get into. Occasionally have to clamp on to the main legs of the entrance box to go to our power distro box. I'm usually the one that does it as nobody else has any experience at all in this area. I wired up a lot of CNC equipment on my job for 25 years with 3 phase and high voltage supplies in tube amps so I'm a little more experienced at higher energy power than any of our crew guys. I definitely would not use this on anything over 120V for sure. I did replace the cheap leads with one of my Probe Master sets to be safe in that area.
Hello Joe. Would you please enable automatic closed captions on this one. It helps me to understand better. Thanks!!
Wish I could help you but YT does not allow auto closed captions for my longer videos.
Hi I have the mastch ms8268 and I had a novelty, I was measuring the frequency of a transistor driver of a tv, but I forgot to change it for continuous voltage and measured the collector of the horizontal transistor and that made a short and now the multimeter does not want Measure FREQUENCY IN CONTINUOUS VOLTAGE. What do you think happened
I think what happened is you were measuring the frequency of a transistor driver of a tv, but I forgot to change it for continuous voltage and measured the collector of the horizontal transistor and that made a short and now the multimeter does not want Measure FREQUENCY IN CONTINUOUS VOLTAGE. That's what I think happenedRead more Show less Reply 1 Pin Pin this comment? Loading... If you already pinned a comment, this will replace it Working... CancelPinRemove Report spam or abuse Hide user from channel
I noticed you haven't tested very many bk precision meters. Is there a reason or just hasn't come up? Id be willing to buy a couple brand new bk meters. New in box with receipt to donate to your channel? I've always liked bk products and curious how they hold up
I think if you take the time to check the spreadsheet you will only find one BK. It was one of the more expensive meters in that batch and performed poor.
I don't get it. What's the bug? Is he measuring ac or dc? I don't see the connection with 120ac and 240dc.
67A the max I saw, awesome. BTW, ICs also have some ESD protection it'll be nice if you test some you got in hand.
How would you propose that I test them? Keep in mind the standards have changed and there are different standards. The gun I made is not adjustable.
Well, I propose use your current esd gun and try to follow some of the JEDEC JS-001 standard (regarding to the num of pulses between the pins), an using the claimed voltage protection for the particular IC (for example: the lm358 claims 250v protection with the JS-001, meanwhile the voltage reference isl2009 claims up to 6kv with hbm and 2kv with cdm). I know that follow a standard rigorously will be very time-consuming (for say something), so I am not asking for it, just to have an idea about the esd protection on the ICs.
Normally, with a loose IC we would handle ESD by preventing it. Once the IC is placed, we may still have handling problems but once things are packaged up, its down to the circuit design. You need to consider the failure may not be instant. The gun I made can't adjust the peak voltage or change the model type. I wanted to get close to that 15A 4KV sub ps IEC standard.
Why is the Brymen not the most robust meter?
Great review Joe. You certainly put these meters through a lot of punishment. I have the Greenlee equivalent of your favorite Bryman meter. I do prefer an older Hioki 3801-50. It has served me well and offers features that other meters don't have. Keep up the good work, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and expertise in this area. Don M.
Hey Don. Glad you enjoyed the review. I like the HIOKI products I have used. They make some very nice test equipment. I looked at getting the DT4282 for home use but like the Brymen's two temperature inputs, bar graph and higher res. I think I show the high res for the first current sweep.
Aw, you popped it. Now you can sell it on eBay As-Is, Unable to Test.
Joe, Any chance the ANENG is free of the AC bug. I know the are physically the same but I wonder if their measurement ICs are different firmware. I can take a photo of the innards of mt ANENG if that would be helpful. Steve J., Portland, OR
That was a very strange bug where you can't read voltage. You would just need to try it. Like many of these low end meters, they typically get damaged beyond repair.
I'll try to break out my pulse generator and run a test this weekend.
I just use 220VAC that is full wave rectified then into the meter. Switch it from AC to DC to AC. The AC should read low. Don't believe that 20A burden voltage number!
So, did you test the aneng one? Really looking to buy that one.
it is funny because they sell the same multimeter but under like at least 10 or more different companies names!!
What's best way to clean circuit board? Will changing fuse to ceramic fuse ones help perform better?
Proclean. I do not consider the current inputs during these tests so no it would not help it survive to a higher level.
Hey, a dramatic rule in screenwriting: when you pull a gun towards the end of act II you need to use it before the screen credits.
I wanted to make sure people understood the primer was spent and how it was set off.
Hi
A whole new dimension to a multimeter shootout.
This is a great low price multimeter. I have been using it almost daily for 3 years and I haven't been able to kill it yet unlike some other cheapos I have bought
I've used
That AC voltage bug is quite dangerous! You could go pokey-pokey thinking it's only a couple of volts and get a punk hairdo (if you have hair which I think is overrated).
I think it could be dangerous as well.
I have one of these...perfect for the last 3 years for my use...came with ceramic fuses of the correct rating and I don't get the bug AC to DC or Vice versa....model serial number is probably later than yours.
I'm going to guess you are referring to the full rectified signal at 26 minutes in.
can i get the original AN860B eeprom firmware bro? google drive
How?
@@joesmith-je3tq ur backup IC file contents an860 24c02/24c08 via eeprom programmer CH341a
@@supriyatnasaidalatas8005 I take it you did not watch the video.
Just in case it wasn't clear, that meter was damaged beyond repair and sent to the recycle bins. Much like other low end meters I have looked at. The only way for me to read out the PROM is to buy another meter. You may want to check the EEVBLOG and see if someone there could get it for you. Good luck.
Please try BSIDE ADM20
Dont forget Sanwa :D