I was in a 81 mm mortar platoon. Most of our shots were indirect so we had forward observers give us the coordinates of the target that might be 3 miles from the gun (1979). Then there was a couple of adjust fires before the fire for effect which blanketed the target with many guns.
I was attached to the recce platoon for our deployment in the falklands, sitting in an OP calling in adjustments for the mortar platoon was one of the coolest things I’ve done. Those bombs aren’t fucking about lol 😂
@@ThePelly Thank you for removing argies for Queen and Country. Now get fit and ready for the defence of the homeland, us diaspora are returning in droves and we're not handing our ancestral homeland to invaders numbering 100x the Norman invasion per WEEK or a weekly variant of the genocidal displacement migration Kalergi or Hooton called for to eradicate the Germanic peoples (similar plans were put forth in Germany Must Perish, but it was focused more on Germans not the entire Germanic race, although these three publications are a big part of why the Nazi's were so hostile towards Jews).
I'm a mortarman. My friends actually used Arma to do FDC (Fire Direction Center/Control) once. Plotted the points and measured the distance and such and forward observed our own rounds.
I can confirm this. What I did at Fort Moore. Our drills took us for a day to go to virtual training. Exactly what’s going on in the video. It was neat but never will be the same as the real deal.
Okay everyone, lesson time. Western militaries in most applications use mils, so a full circle is 6400mills. which means 1 mil off at 1km is 1 meter of displacement. You can see on both the compass and map tools it has mills AND degrees. Be careful of this (military aviation will still use degrees). So in this example he's talking about 26.2, its actually 2620 mils.
@@harosokman yeah I should have looked it up, I watched an artillery vid on how to aim them after commenting and saw the Milliradian circle thing, I guess they are still millimetres though, just on a radius instead of a lined rule.
MrPanos2000 - that's like saying Call of duty will teach you how to properly handle a gun. get the fuck outta here with your dumb shit. and go to fuckin' class.
Klara Pravda High The best thing to do is have it figured out like "What should we need to hit the building over there." or "what numbers will we need to hit that hillside" so it's planned out. I'm a sniper normally while my friend spots, but as soon as that mortar hops out of his bag I start mathing up so he can know what to do when I call it. We have like several area codes so when he calls sniper on A1 I know he's on a hillside to the left at the very top (doubles for his mortar). A lot of this extremely computer intensive game is preparation and teamwork.
@@keosniper bruh.☠️ how could you possibly know or predict if they would use the same spot you have picked to record ? 😂 this seems like a complete waste of time when you can use the artillery computer
Ideally you’d have an FO and an FDC feeding you all this data and on the gun all you have to do is enter the data you’re told and hang the rounds. It’s still a lengthy process but a lot easier when you have a full mortar section.
I suspect the dislikes are from people who does not play Arma 3. Possibly a slight change of the title would fix that. Otherwise it's a pretty accurate illustration on the mechanics of how it's done either way, sans the firing table.
Is nobody pointing out that on the map tools, the guy used the grid finder as his ruler, instead of literally using the ruler on the side of the tools. This a partly in correct guide. Once you've got your azimuth by doing the first part correctly (rotating your tools with the dot on your location), then put the 0 marker on the side of the map tools on your location and follow through to your target, that's your range, not how shown in the video.
First off....26.2 Degrees North Grid. Second, it appears the gun is showing deflection in degrees, from mounting azimuth. You can figure out your deflection for a given azimuth of fire by finding the difference between your mounting azimuth and desired azimuth of fire using RALS (Right-Add, Left-Subtract), then apply that same correction to your deflection using LARS (Left-Add, Right-Subtract). and YOU DIDN'T CONVERT FROM GRID TO MAGNETIC AZIMUTH.....OYE VEY
not the best explanation. some questionable working. downright goof with the compass work. However the mortar isn't a one man weapon. so good effort but flawed
remember mortar are not main weapon for direct attack , they are support weapon , their real purpose is to cause chaos and decrease moral on the battlefield . Causing damage and taking down the target is just a bonus . And just go with the old method of (distance x degree x wind speed and direction) , in guerilla warfare you got almost no visibility. Irl you can't do mortar on your own . Irl we don't have "god vision" when we can seen everything , on the ground you're almost clueless, and without forward team you basically blind ,and without assist you're just a guy with a tube . And being exposed in the open is a stupid for a mortar species .
I dont know what calculations you are doing with your compass but theyre off, super off. If you use the 25k map scale your compass on a 25k map the distance should be the same as the grid. I.e. if you put the scale on p1 and t1 and it shows 4 the range will be ~400 meters. Then you can check the ballistic table for mils and no of charges and you should be good to go. Usually i get an error of 50 meters and even then i dont di any corrections because its not really neccessary
The map tool.. In otherwords..a compass lol I own a compass that looks almost exactly like that Except mine isn’t that big and square lol the compass round part is rotatable and it has all those numbers and such too..lol
Hey man, nice video, interesting topic for anyone wanting a little extra info on Arma. Dont worry about these veterans hating on ya. We arent ALL complete dicks... well maybe we are... disregard and carry on.
I guess this is some video game. Unfortunately it is not even a simulation of how mortars are actually aimed. Not even close. I was an artilleryman, and mortar operation is similar. You must live in some alternate reality.
Crap , I hope they've come up with better ways to get a lock on a target since this video came out , by the time you get a bearing on something they're gone , my damn grandmother could walk outta range by the time you find her and figure out the settings 😂
Had to correct one trainee twice and waste another 2 hours in training one man on how to use mortar in ArmA properly... Good video, but outdated and ONLY applies when: - Your mortar is on flat surface [like airfield]. - Target is close and terrain is almost flat. In case if you set it up somewhere when terrain is not flat, then you miss. In order to correct it, you need to use the AZ: [number in mils] Luckily the barrel AZ is being outputted just under weapon info bar in almost every artillery [RHS - I am looking at you right now...]. In order to get mills to the target, you either use a calculator, online converter, or mod such as simple map tools. ACE advanced ballistics: For wind - clan leader decided to turn it off for mortar, because it made shelling targets impossible, because it used to bug out and hit once 2km away, or 1 km off in different direction [good thing we had smoke then, we hit friendlies. two series on the same coordinates...]. You know when you properly trained people, when they hit small squad sized target far away, on uneven terrain. Always telling them to do 3 shoots, to get estimate on where they were shooting [only laser guided, or rocket modern artillery hit exactly where you aim]. I can show how to use mortar with ace correctly, if anybody is interested and maybe wants to make a instructional video about that.
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I like how you want to teach how to do this and dont even hit 1 target XD missed the first tarket with line of sight and the secound indirect one as well XD iv done better than that just with eyeballing a bit
I was in a 81 mm mortar platoon. Most of our shots were indirect so we had forward observers give us the coordinates of the target that might be 3 miles from the gun (1979). Then there was a couple of adjust fires before the fire for effect which blanketed the target with many guns.
I was attached to the recce platoon for our deployment in the falklands, sitting in an OP calling in adjustments for the mortar platoon was one of the coolest things I’ve done. Those bombs aren’t fucking about lol 😂
I am a 11c myself. I am in a hhc company. We mainly work with 120 mortars. It's nice. I just don't appreciate the loud ass sound it makes.
@@ThePelly Thank you for removing argies for Queen and Country. Now get fit and ready for the defence of the homeland, us diaspora are returning in droves and we're not handing our ancestral homeland to invaders numbering 100x the Norman invasion per WEEK or a weekly variant of the genocidal displacement migration Kalergi or Hooton called for to eradicate the Germanic peoples (similar plans were put forth in Germany Must Perish, but it was focused more on Germans not the entire Germanic race, although these three publications are a big part of why the Nazi's were so hostile towards Jews).
I'm a mortarman. My friends actually used Arma to do FDC (Fire Direction Center/Control) once. Plotted the points and measured the distance and such and forward observed our own rounds.
I can confirm this. What I did at Fort Moore. Our drills took us for a day to go to virtual training. Exactly what’s going on in the video. It was neat but never will be the same as the real deal.
Okay everyone, lesson time. Western militaries in most applications use mils, so a full circle is 6400mills. which means 1 mil off at 1km is 1 meter of displacement. You can see on both the compass and map tools it has mills AND degrees. Be careful of this (military aviation will still use degrees). So in this example he's talking about 26.2, its actually 2620 mils.
What do you mean by mils, millimetres?
@@neildepressedtyson540 Mils in military speak is short for milliradians.
@@harosokman yeah I should have looked it up, I watched an artillery vid on how to aim them after commenting and saw the Milliradian circle thing, I guess they are still millimetres though, just on a radius instead of a lined rule.
@@neildepressedtyson540 not quite. It's a division of a circle. It's kind of complex as it's has to do with Pi and trigonometry
@@harosokman yeah again, looked it up, I can see it's a thousandth of a radian which is about 57°
Already way above my head 😅
this is a really good minecraft mod where can i down load
I hope you're shitting us
a9s0asc idk look it up
@@blackbartlaborro7882 wooooosh
Alex Derange I don’t want to say it but,
You got r/woodshed back, and go back to reddit.
It’s arma 3
was looking for a real life demo, not Arma.
ConMeister you can see the thumbnail
oh sure I guess glitching is more real then walking
its a simulation game so its just as good
Me too
MrPanos2000 - that's like saying Call of duty will teach you how to properly handle a gun.
get the fuck outta here with your dumb shit. and go to fuckin' class.
While you sit there and make calculations, the enemy team will all ready be gone.
Klara Pravda High The best thing to do is have it figured out like "What should we need to hit the building over there." or "what numbers will we need to hit that hillside" so it's planned out. I'm a sniper normally while my friend spots, but as soon as that mortar hops out of his bag I start mathing up so he can know what to do when I call it. We have like several area codes so when he calls sniper on A1 I know he's on a hillside to the left at the very top (doubles for his mortar). A lot of this extremely computer intensive game is preparation and teamwork.
@@keosniper bruh.☠️ how could you possibly know or predict if they would use the same spot you have picked to record ? 😂 this seems like a complete waste of time when you can use the artillery computer
Ideally you’d have an FO and an FDC feeding you all this data and on the gun all you have to do is enter the data you’re told and hang the rounds. It’s still a lengthy process but a lot easier when you have a full mortar section.
I used your tutorial but something was off, by the time I did the calculations the enemy was no longer in the proximity. ;'(
It's actually 26.2 degrees, not 26.1
it's actually 2620 mils
@@andrew7949 Thank you, so many people are getting this wrong
Game looks good.
Ya it's really a good military stimulation game
Not too expensive either
What game is it
@@xthedogee2650 arma 3 i think
i keep running into things about arma. This game has some amazing concepts (like this) bigger developers need to apply.
I suspect the dislikes are from people who does not play Arma 3. Possibly a slight change of the title would fix that. Otherwise it's a pretty accurate illustration on the mechanics of how it's done either way, sans the firing table.
I would recommend using the microDAGR as it gives you far more precise range and azimuth to your GPS target.
Really?
@@jekekefe5923 yep, just make sure to change the display units to mils from degrees.
Awesome tutorial. Thanks
About a hundred people just unknowingly admitted that they dont know how mortars work
4:24
Just a correction. It is 26.2 degrees. The compass goes by intervals of 2.
Instructions unclear, I myself got launched towards target
great video
a link to the workshop map tools would've been nice though. other than that it looks pretty fun :)
Is nobody pointing out that on the map tools, the guy used the grid finder as his ruler, instead of literally using the ruler on the side of the tools.
This a partly in correct guide.
Once you've got your azimuth by doing the first part correctly (rotating your tools with the dot on your location), then put the 0 marker on the side of the map tools on your location and follow through to your target, that's your range, not how shown in the video.
an artillery compass measures in mills. Also, most of the time the mortar is not going to be used as a direct fire weapon.
Convert degrees to mils if you can for a more accurate read on your deflection and elevation
First off....26.2 Degrees North Grid. Second, it appears the gun is showing deflection in degrees, from mounting azimuth. You can figure out your deflection for a given azimuth of fire by finding the difference between your mounting azimuth and desired azimuth of fire using RALS (Right-Add, Left-Subtract), then apply that same correction to your deflection using LARS (Left-Add, Right-Subtract). and YOU DIDN'T CONVERT FROM GRID TO MAGNETIC AZIMUTH.....OYE VEY
DarthXavius I dont think it matters in this game, assume magnetic is the same as grid.
It also wasn't 26.2 deg it was 2620 mils
1:25 ahahahhahahhaha that bee =D
and he say :D This can beee :DD
***** loooool =D
what a fat bee xD
lol was surfing youtube and found how to use motors :-)
@McGravy 212 sorry it is Mortor right?
@McGravy 212 Yeah Thanks
@@arunraj_r It's actually Mordar.
hey can you link the map tools?
how to operate mortar, and you didnt even land the target so i still dont know how to operate a mortar.. good video 10/10
impressive
Arma and DCS should get together and have a baby. That, will be thee ultimate mil-sim experience
is this the Greek island Limnos in the Aegean Sea ?
do u even oper8 bro
not the best explanation. some questionable working. downright goof with the compass work. However the mortar isn't a one man weapon. so good effort but flawed
What game is this?
Excellent video, cheers
what is this name game?
what name these game
What game is this? It is not Minecraft! Well done video but game name and version would be nice as a precursor to the lesson.
what game
Haw its the name of simulator ???
Name game
Game name please
They should sell mortars to the general public. I’ve got a few locations I would love to send mortar greetings to.
Game Name?
This game is a complete math course!
Teachers could use it more for more atractive classes
Is that a friggin video game?
game name
Damn video game
remember mortar are not main weapon for direct attack , they are support weapon , their real purpose is to cause chaos and decrease moral on the battlefield . Causing damage and taking down the target is just a bonus . And just go with the old method of (distance x degree x wind speed and direction) , in guerilla warfare you got almost no visibility. Irl you can't do mortar on your own . Irl we don't have "god vision" when we can seen everything , on the ground you're almost clueless, and without forward team you basically blind ,and without assist you're just a guy with a tube . And being exposed in the open is a stupid for a mortar species .
I was in the Navy and never dealt with a mortar, but this seems like it's taking way too much time defined the firing solution
Weird like/dislike ratio - this video is fine!
I beg Your pardon! - what kind of ..."game" is this one?? What is its name?
PS.
Vey nice video, by the way! :)
Thank you for uploading! :)
Arma 3
Thank You.
minecraft
Darude
I dont know what calculations you are doing with your compass but theyre off, super off. If you use the 25k map scale your compass on a 25k map the distance should be the same as the grid. I.e. if you put the scale on p1 and t1 and it shows 4 the range will be ~400 meters. Then you can check the ballistic table for mils and no of charges and you should be good to go. Usually i get an error of 50 meters and even then i dont di any corrections because its not really neccessary
Same here...
Just hold your thumb and first finger in a u shape than apply the T.L.AR. method.(that looks about right)
Is this a computer game? If so, what is it called?
Arma 3
The map tool..
In otherwords..a compass lol
I own a compass that looks almost exactly like that
Except mine isn’t that big and square lol the compass round part is rotatable and it has all those numbers and such too..lol
Any 11c watching this just stop watching lol
hi what game is this
Arma 3
The island in the map actually exists in real life and it's the island of Lemnos in Greece
what is the name of this game ?
Arma 3
What game is this
arma 2
Hey man, nice video, interesting topic for anyone wanting a little extra info on Arma. Dont worry about these veterans hating on ya. We arent ALL complete dicks... well maybe we are... disregard and carry on.
so many haters... he's explaining something. of course it's slow
what game is that? it's cool
arma 3
roblox
What video game is that?
Dat Boi Darude - Sandstorm. It's a mod for Gmod.
Arma 3
Oh so that’s how civilians can get caught up in the mess.
I guess this is some video game. Unfortunately it is not even a simulation of how mortars are actually aimed. Not even close. I was an artilleryman, and mortar operation is similar. You must live in some alternate reality.
what is this game>?
Arma 3
@@epoxythanatos9025 thanks man. Literally waited for 4 months for an answer.
Crap , I hope they've come up with better ways to get a lock on a target since this video came out , by the time you get a bearing on something they're gone , my damn grandmother could walk outta range by the time you find her and figure out the settings 😂
So the wind is moving to the left but the mortar shell veered off to the right...
Hope they patched that lol
cooool
مرحبا بكم
What is this Game
Anglos3115 arma
roblox
So its how to set up a video game !
Clear as mud. Gimme a rifle.
Had to correct one trainee twice and waste another 2 hours in training one man on how to use mortar in ArmA properly...
Good video, but outdated and ONLY applies when:
- Your mortar is on flat surface [like airfield].
- Target is close and terrain is almost flat.
In case if you set it up somewhere when terrain is not flat, then you miss.
In order to correct it, you need to use the
AZ: [number in mils]
Luckily the barrel AZ is being outputted just under weapon info bar in almost every artillery [RHS - I am looking at you right now...].
In order to get mills to the target, you either use a calculator, online converter, or mod such as simple map tools.
ACE advanced ballistics:
For wind - clan leader decided to turn it off for mortar, because it made shelling targets impossible, because it used to bug out and hit once 2km away, or 1 km off in different direction [good thing we had smoke then, we hit friendlies. two series on the same coordinates...].
You know when you properly trained people, when they hit small squad sized target far away, on uneven terrain.
Always telling them to do 3 shoots, to get estimate on where they were shooting [only laser guided, or rocket modern artillery hit exactly where you aim].
I can show how to use mortar with ace correctly, if anybody is interested and maybe wants to make a instructional video about that.
god dammit what game is taht i forgot!?
Arma 3?
This is the way how to operate with mortar in real combat situation
thought this was real life
Who the fuck is robert?
He's Robert.
Or, you know, just use the artillery computer, it's not like the game takes place in 2035 or anything...
Seems you need Einstein to hit anything
Looks easy as fuck this game !
yeah right
Name of game
Arma 3
Why it isn't in the title?
Because everyone should know the game.
what is the name of this game
Minecraft
ممكن اسم اللعبة
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
لوسمحت هذة لعبة. ام محاكي للعبة
من فضلك لوحصلت على الاسم ارسل لي بة
وشكرآ
@@asmeiamerm6572 Arma 3
And then you carry the 1 over the 5 and divide by …….. 😨 🧮
hot
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You can just use artillery computer 🤦♂️
How much does Arma 3 cost?
depend on your country
mr. deefoster actually it doesnt
it depends on the currency you have
game is 50 USD? its 180 saudi riyals
paid 12€ on steam one day ago.
If you just buy Arma 3 it's pretty cheap. If you want everything, it's gonna cost more, but IMO it was worth every penny!
MADhaseX
Same! Bought it last day of steam sale actually.
I thought it was Arma 3
I have a better option
Artillery computer
How is this fun?
back to COD with you.
So that's how a mortar sight looks like...
Mich Rain its a game
Ofc it's a game, I just happened to never have seen a mortar sight and I guess that's a good depiction. Too bad my PC can't run Arma... yet.
Mich Rain its a simulation game, not some stupid call if duty mass murder simulation
I know, so what?
If yall want IDF advice message me-USMC
just use mortar computer
I like how you want to teach how to do this and dont even hit 1 target XD missed the first tarket with line of sight and the secound indirect one as well XD iv done better than that just with eyeballing a bit
At least put in the TITLE of you video what fucking GAME you are talking about!!
You missed the target Lol.
click bait
this really helpful not