I was in a 81 mm mortar platoon. Most of our shots were indirect so we had forward observers give us the coordinates of the target that might be 3 miles from the gun (1979). Then there was a couple of adjust fires before the fire for effect which blanketed the target with many guns.
I was attached to the recce platoon for our deployment in the falklands, sitting in an OP calling in adjustments for the mortar platoon was one of the coolest things I’ve done. Those bombs aren’t fucking about lol 😂
@@ThePelly Thank you for removing argies for Queen and Country. Now get fit and ready for the defence of the homeland, us diaspora are returning in droves and we're not handing our ancestral homeland to invaders numbering 100x the Norman invasion per WEEK or a weekly variant of the genocidal displacement migration Kalergi or Hooton called for to eradicate the Germanic peoples (similar plans were put forth in Germany Must Perish, but it was focused more on Germans not the entire Germanic race, although these three publications are a big part of why the Nazi's were so hostile towards Jews).
I'm a mortarman. My friends actually used Arma to do FDC (Fire Direction Center/Control) once. Plotted the points and measured the distance and such and forward observed our own rounds.
I can confirm this. What I did at Fort Moore. Our drills took us for a day to go to virtual training. Exactly what’s going on in the video. It was neat but never will be the same as the real deal.
Okay everyone, lesson time. Western militaries in most applications use mils, so a full circle is 6400mills. which means 1 mil off at 1km is 1 meter of displacement. You can see on both the compass and map tools it has mills AND degrees. Be careful of this (military aviation will still use degrees). So in this example he's talking about 26.2, its actually 2620 mils.
@@harosokman yeah I should have looked it up, I watched an artillery vid on how to aim them after commenting and saw the Milliradian circle thing, I guess they are still millimetres though, just on a radius instead of a lined rule.
MrPanos2000 - that's like saying Call of duty will teach you how to properly handle a gun. get the fuck outta here with your dumb shit. and go to fuckin' class.
I suspect the dislikes are from people who does not play Arma 3. Possibly a slight change of the title would fix that. Otherwise it's a pretty accurate illustration on the mechanics of how it's done either way, sans the firing table.
Klara Pravda High The best thing to do is have it figured out like "What should we need to hit the building over there." or "what numbers will we need to hit that hillside" so it's planned out. I'm a sniper normally while my friend spots, but as soon as that mortar hops out of his bag I start mathing up so he can know what to do when I call it. We have like several area codes so when he calls sniper on A1 I know he's on a hillside to the left at the very top (doubles for his mortar). A lot of this extremely computer intensive game is preparation and teamwork.
@@Tess0246 bruh.☠️ how could you possibly know or predict if they would use the same spot you have picked to record ? 😂 this seems like a complete waste of time when you can use the artillery computer
Ideally you’d have an FO and an FDC feeding you all this data and on the gun all you have to do is enter the data you’re told and hang the rounds. It’s still a lengthy process but a lot easier when you have a full mortar section.
First off....26.2 Degrees North Grid. Second, it appears the gun is showing deflection in degrees, from mounting azimuth. You can figure out your deflection for a given azimuth of fire by finding the difference between your mounting azimuth and desired azimuth of fire using RALS (Right-Add, Left-Subtract), then apply that same correction to your deflection using LARS (Left-Add, Right-Subtract). and YOU DIDN'T CONVERT FROM GRID TO MAGNETIC AZIMUTH.....OYE VEY
Is nobody pointing out that on the map tools, the guy used the grid finder as his ruler, instead of literally using the ruler on the side of the tools. This a partly in correct guide. Once you've got your azimuth by doing the first part correctly (rotating your tools with the dot on your location), then put the 0 marker on the side of the map tools on your location and follow through to your target, that's your range, not how shown in the video.
Mils are a 6400 range. Elevated from firing point requires a further shot to match target and round to the target of its trajectory. Russians use a higher mils standard of 7500. Actually the mils wasn't 6.1 It was more likee 6023. Each hatch mark is 20mils not 0.1
not the best explanation. some questionable working. downright goof with the compass work. However the mortar isn't a one man weapon. so good effort but flawed
I guess this is some video game. Unfortunately it is not even a simulation of how mortars are actually aimed. Not even close. I was an artilleryman, and mortar operation is similar. You must live in some alternate reality.
I dont know what calculations you are doing with your compass but theyre off, super off. If you use the 25k map scale your compass on a 25k map the distance should be the same as the grid. I.e. if you put the scale on p1 and t1 and it shows 4 the range will be ~400 meters. Then you can check the ballistic table for mils and no of charges and you should be good to go. Usually i get an error of 50 meters and even then i dont di any corrections because its not really neccessary
Had to correct one trainee twice and waste another 2 hours in training one man on how to use mortar in ArmA properly... Good video, but outdated and ONLY applies when: - Your mortar is on flat surface [like airfield]. - Target is close and terrain is almost flat. In case if you set it up somewhere when terrain is not flat, then you miss. In order to correct it, you need to use the AZ: [number in mils] Luckily the barrel AZ is being outputted just under weapon info bar in almost every artillery [RHS - I am looking at you right now...]. In order to get mills to the target, you either use a calculator, online converter, or mod such as simple map tools. ACE advanced ballistics: For wind - clan leader decided to turn it off for mortar, because it made shelling targets impossible, because it used to bug out and hit once 2km away, or 1 km off in different direction [good thing we had smoke then, we hit friendlies. two series on the same coordinates...]. You know when you properly trained people, when they hit small squad sized target far away, on uneven terrain. Always telling them to do 3 shoots, to get estimate on where they were shooting [only laser guided, or rocket modern artillery hit exactly where you aim]. I can show how to use mortar with ace correctly, if anybody is interested and maybe wants to make a instructional video about that.
Crap , I hope they've come up with better ways to get a lock on a target since this video came out , by the time you get a bearing on something they're gone , my damn grandmother could walk outta range by the time you find her and figure out the settings 😂
Hey man, nice video, interesting topic for anyone wanting a little extra info on Arma. Dont worry about these veterans hating on ya. We arent ALL complete dicks... well maybe we are... disregard and carry on.
The map tool.. In otherwords..a compass lol I own a compass that looks almost exactly like that Except mine isn’t that big and square lol the compass round part is rotatable and it has all those numbers and such too..lol
remember mortar are not main weapon for direct attack , they are support weapon , their real purpose is to cause chaos and decrease moral on the battlefield . Causing damage and taking down the target is just a bonus . And just go with the old method of (distance x degree x wind speed and direction) , in guerilla warfare you got almost no visibility. Irl you can't do mortar on your own . Irl we don't have "god vision" when we can seen everything , on the ground you're almost clueless, and without forward team you basically blind ,and without assist you're just a guy with a tube . And being exposed in the open is a stupid for a mortar species .
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I like how you want to teach how to do this and dont even hit 1 target XD missed the first tarket with line of sight and the secound indirect one as well XD iv done better than that just with eyeballing a bit
I was in a 81 mm mortar platoon. Most of our shots were indirect so we had forward observers give us the coordinates of the target that might be 3 miles from the gun (1979). Then there was a couple of adjust fires before the fire for effect which blanketed the target with many guns.
I was attached to the recce platoon for our deployment in the falklands, sitting in an OP calling in adjustments for the mortar platoon was one of the coolest things I’ve done. Those bombs aren’t fucking about lol 😂
I am a 11c myself. I am in a hhc company. We mainly work with 120 mortars. It's nice. I just don't appreciate the loud ass sound it makes.
@@ThePelly Thank you for removing argies for Queen and Country. Now get fit and ready for the defence of the homeland, us diaspora are returning in droves and we're not handing our ancestral homeland to invaders numbering 100x the Norman invasion per WEEK or a weekly variant of the genocidal displacement migration Kalergi or Hooton called for to eradicate the Germanic peoples (similar plans were put forth in Germany Must Perish, but it was focused more on Germans not the entire Germanic race, although these three publications are a big part of why the Nazi's were so hostile towards Jews).
I'm a mortarman. My friends actually used Arma to do FDC (Fire Direction Center/Control) once. Plotted the points and measured the distance and such and forward observed our own rounds.
I can confirm this. What I did at Fort Moore. Our drills took us for a day to go to virtual training. Exactly what’s going on in the video. It was neat but never will be the same as the real deal.
Okay everyone, lesson time. Western militaries in most applications use mils, so a full circle is 6400mills. which means 1 mil off at 1km is 1 meter of displacement. You can see on both the compass and map tools it has mills AND degrees. Be careful of this (military aviation will still use degrees). So in this example he's talking about 26.2, its actually 2620 mils.
What do you mean by mils, millimetres?
@@neildepressedtyson540 Mils in military speak is short for milliradians.
@@harosokman yeah I should have looked it up, I watched an artillery vid on how to aim them after commenting and saw the Milliradian circle thing, I guess they are still millimetres though, just on a radius instead of a lined rule.
@@neildepressedtyson540 not quite. It's a division of a circle. It's kind of complex as it's has to do with Pi and trigonometry
@@harosokman yeah again, looked it up, I can see it's a thousandth of a radian which is about 57°
Already way above my head 😅
i keep running into things about arma. This game has some amazing concepts (like this) bigger developers need to apply.
I would recommend using the microDAGR as it gives you far more precise range and azimuth to your GPS target.
Really?
@@jekekefe5923 yep, just make sure to change the display units to mils from degrees.
was looking for a real life demo, not Arma.
ConMeister you can see the thumbnail
oh sure I guess glitching is more real then walking
its a simulation game so its just as good
Me too
MrPanos2000 - that's like saying Call of duty will teach you how to properly handle a gun.
get the fuck outta here with your dumb shit. and go to fuckin' class.
Game looks good.
Ya it's really a good military stimulation game
Not too expensive either
What game is it
@@xthedogee2650 arma 3 i think
I used your tutorial but something was off, by the time I did the calculations the enemy was no longer in the proximity. ;'(
I suspect the dislikes are from people who does not play Arma 3. Possibly a slight change of the title would fix that. Otherwise it's a pretty accurate illustration on the mechanics of how it's done either way, sans the firing table.
It's actually 26.2 degrees, not 26.1
it's actually 2620 mils
@@andrew7949 Thank you, so many people are getting this wrong
While you sit there and make calculations, the enemy team will all ready be gone.
Klara Pravda High The best thing to do is have it figured out like "What should we need to hit the building over there." or "what numbers will we need to hit that hillside" so it's planned out. I'm a sniper normally while my friend spots, but as soon as that mortar hops out of his bag I start mathing up so he can know what to do when I call it. We have like several area codes so when he calls sniper on A1 I know he's on a hillside to the left at the very top (doubles for his mortar). A lot of this extremely computer intensive game is preparation and teamwork.
@@Tess0246 bruh.☠️ how could you possibly know or predict if they would use the same spot you have picked to record ? 😂 this seems like a complete waste of time when you can use the artillery computer
Ideally you’d have an FO and an FDC feeding you all this data and on the gun all you have to do is enter the data you’re told and hang the rounds. It’s still a lengthy process but a lot easier when you have a full mortar section.
4:24
Just a correction. It is 26.2 degrees. The compass goes by intervals of 2.
I always wondered how the sights work on a mortar.
thanks bro.
Instructions unclear, I myself got launched towards target
About a hundred people just unknowingly admitted that they dont know how mortars work
First off....26.2 Degrees North Grid. Second, it appears the gun is showing deflection in degrees, from mounting azimuth. You can figure out your deflection for a given azimuth of fire by finding the difference between your mounting azimuth and desired azimuth of fire using RALS (Right-Add, Left-Subtract), then apply that same correction to your deflection using LARS (Left-Add, Right-Subtract). and YOU DIDN'T CONVERT FROM GRID TO MAGNETIC AZIMUTH.....OYE VEY
DarthXavius I dont think it matters in this game, assume magnetic is the same as grid.
It also wasn't 26.2 deg it was 2620 mils
Is nobody pointing out that on the map tools, the guy used the grid finder as his ruler, instead of literally using the ruler on the side of the tools.
This a partly in correct guide.
Once you've got your azimuth by doing the first part correctly (rotating your tools with the dot on your location), then put the 0 marker on the side of the map tools on your location and follow through to your target, that's your range, not how shown in the video.
Arma and DCS should get together and have a baby. That, will be thee ultimate mil-sim experience
how to operate mortar, and you didnt even land the target so i still dont know how to operate a mortar.. good video 10/10
Mils are a 6400 range. Elevated from firing point requires a further shot to match target and round to the target of its trajectory. Russians use a higher mils standard of 7500. Actually the mils wasn't 6.1 It was more likee 6023. Each hatch mark is 20mils not 0.1
Convert degrees to mils if you can for a more accurate read on your deflection and elevation
lol was surfing youtube and found how to use motors :-)
@McGravy 212 sorry it is Mortor right?
@McGravy 212 Yeah Thanks
@@arunraj_r It's actually Mordar.
a link to the workshop map tools would've been nice though. other than that it looks pretty fun :)
not the best explanation. some questionable working. downright goof with the compass work. However the mortar isn't a one man weapon. so good effort but flawed
an artillery compass measures in mills. Also, most of the time the mortar is not going to be used as a direct fire weapon.
great video
Is that a friggin video game?
This game is a complete math course!
Teachers could use it more for more atractive classes
Weird like/dislike ratio - this video is fine!
They should sell mortars to the general public. I’ve got a few locations I would love to send mortar greetings to.
1:25 ahahahhahahhaha that bee =D
and he say :D This can beee :DD
***** loooool =D
what a fat bee xD
so many haters... he's explaining something. of course it's slow
Oh so that’s how civilians can get caught up in the mess.
is this the Greek island Limnos in the Aegean Sea ?
Any 11c watching this just stop watching lol
do u even oper8 bro
Who the fuck is robert?
He's Robert.
I guess this is some video game. Unfortunately it is not even a simulation of how mortars are actually aimed. Not even close. I was an artilleryman, and mortar operation is similar. You must live in some alternate reality.
Awesome tutorial. Thanks
hey can you link the map tools?
Haw its the name of simulator ???
Just hold your thumb and first finger in a u shape than apply the T.L.AR. method.(that looks about right)
The island in the map actually exists in real life and it's the island of Lemnos in Greece
I dont know what calculations you are doing with your compass but theyre off, super off. If you use the 25k map scale your compass on a 25k map the distance should be the same as the grid. I.e. if you put the scale on p1 and t1 and it shows 4 the range will be ~400 meters. Then you can check the ballistic table for mils and no of charges and you should be good to go. Usually i get an error of 50 meters and even then i dont di any corrections because its not really neccessary
what name these game
Name game
This is the way how to operate with mortar in real combat situation
Had to correct one trainee twice and waste another 2 hours in training one man on how to use mortar in ArmA properly...
Good video, but outdated and ONLY applies when:
- Your mortar is on flat surface [like airfield].
- Target is close and terrain is almost flat.
In case if you set it up somewhere when terrain is not flat, then you miss.
In order to correct it, you need to use the
AZ: [number in mils]
Luckily the barrel AZ is being outputted just under weapon info bar in almost every artillery [RHS - I am looking at you right now...].
In order to get mills to the target, you either use a calculator, online converter, or mod such as simple map tools.
ACE advanced ballistics:
For wind - clan leader decided to turn it off for mortar, because it made shelling targets impossible, because it used to bug out and hit once 2km away, or 1 km off in different direction [good thing we had smoke then, we hit friendlies. two series on the same coordinates...].
You know when you properly trained people, when they hit small squad sized target far away, on uneven terrain.
Always telling them to do 3 shoots, to get estimate on where they were shooting [only laser guided, or rocket modern artillery hit exactly where you aim].
I can show how to use mortar with ace correctly, if anybody is interested and maybe wants to make a instructional video about that.
what game
what is this game>?
Arma 3
@@epoxythanatos9025 thanks man. Literally waited for 4 months for an answer.
What game is this? It is not Minecraft! Well done video but game name and version would be nice as a precursor to the lesson.
Game name please
Crap , I hope they've come up with better ways to get a lock on a target since this video came out , by the time you get a bearing on something they're gone , my damn grandmother could walk outta range by the time you find her and figure out the settings 😂
What game is this?
impressive
Game Name?
game name
So the wind is moving to the left but the mortar shell veered off to the right...
Hope they patched that lol
what is this name game?
Excellent video, cheers
I beg Your pardon! - what kind of ..."game" is this one?? What is its name?
PS.
Vey nice video, by the way! :)
Thank you for uploading! :)
Arma 3
Thank You.
minecraft
Darude
what is the name of this game ?
Arma 3
What game is this
arma 2
hi what game is this
Arma 3
Arma 3?
Hey man, nice video, interesting topic for anyone wanting a little extra info on Arma. Dont worry about these veterans hating on ya. We arent ALL complete dicks... well maybe we are... disregard and carry on.
So its how to set up a video game !
Or, you know, just use the artillery computer, it's not like the game takes place in 2035 or anything...
What video game is that?
Dat Boi Darude - Sandstorm. It's a mod for Gmod.
Arma 3
What is this Game
Anglos3115 arma
roblox
what game is that? it's cool
arma 3
roblox
god dammit what game is taht i forgot!?
The map tool..
In otherwords..a compass lol
I own a compass that looks almost exactly like that
Except mine isn’t that big and square lol the compass round part is rotatable and it has all those numbers and such too..lol
Seems you need Einstein to hit anything
remember mortar are not main weapon for direct attack , they are support weapon , their real purpose is to cause chaos and decrease moral on the battlefield . Causing damage and taking down the target is just a bonus . And just go with the old method of (distance x degree x wind speed and direction) , in guerilla warfare you got almost no visibility. Irl you can't do mortar on your own . Irl we don't have "god vision" when we can seen everything , on the ground you're almost clueless, and without forward team you basically blind ,and without assist you're just a guy with a tube . And being exposed in the open is a stupid for a mortar species .
Same here...
Is this a computer game? If so, what is it called?
Arma 3
How much does Arma 3 cost?
depend on your country
mr. deefoster actually it doesnt
it depends on the currency you have
game is 50 USD? its 180 saudi riyals
paid 12€ on steam one day ago.
If you just buy Arma 3 it's pretty cheap. If you want everything, it's gonna cost more, but IMO it was worth every penny!
MADhaseX
Same! Bought it last day of steam sale actually.
what game is it???
arma
Now i have it. Is the Best shooter game when I played
Seriosak Negreak glad you enjoy it. what do you play mostly?
it's Minecraft
XD ..I.,
Name of game
Arma 3
Why it isn't in the title?
Because everyone should know the game.
what is the name of this game
Minecraft
مرحبا بكم
I was in the Navy and never dealt with a mortar, but this seems like it's taking way too much time defined the firing solution
thought this was real life
Clear as mud. Gimme a rifle.
ممكن اسم اللعبة
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
لوسمحت هذة لعبة. ام محاكي للعبة
من فضلك لوحصلت على الاسم ارسل لي بة
وشكرآ
@@asmeiamerm6572 Arma 3
And then you carry the 1 over the 5 and divide by …….. 😨 🧮
Looks easy as fuck this game !
yeah right
I thought it was Arma 3
How is this fun?
back to COD with you.
You can just use artillery computer 🤦♂️
I have a better option
Artillery computer
cooool
At least put in the TITLE of you video what fucking GAME you are talking about!!
hot
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just use mortar computer
So that's how a mortar sight looks like...
Mich Rain its a game
Ofc it's a game, I just happened to never have seen a mortar sight and I guess that's a good depiction. Too bad my PC can't run Arma... yet.
Mich Rain its a simulation game, not some stupid call if duty mass murder simulation
I know, so what?
I like how you want to teach how to do this and dont even hit 1 target XD missed the first tarket with line of sight and the secound indirect one as well XD iv done better than that just with eyeballing a bit
If yall want IDF advice message me-USMC
Cringe
Bettter if real, gaming not interesting