During a skid course I was told to always look in the direction you want to go, as this helps with the various inputs you make. You did not mention where to look so was wondering if you agree with this advice? Thanks for another helpful video.
At 8:10 Years ago Dunlop ran an advertisement with Larry Perkins in a V8 Supercar. The car has snaped into oversteer, not by throttle but just lost traction in the wet and it’s sliding down the camber of the road. Larry teases the steering wheel into the slide and the reefs it the other way hard and quick … I love good tyres on a car!
3:17 "...you can skid into a bus queue, if you're having a really bad day...", It could be that the people in the bus queue will, by now, be having a worse day. LOL Thank you, this gave me a much needed (if not cruel) laugh this morning.
I'd like to see lift off oversteer demonstrated in a front wheel drive car and different ways of catching it if possible. I've experienced it once not long after getting my licence, entering a right hand bend over a slight crest under trees in autumn with cold tyres, wet roads and rotting leaves under nearside wheels. Stability control caught it, '15 Focus.
Good idea Mark. I’ve been caught out by this - Vauxhall Cavalier on it’s side in a ditch written off. I think lots of FWD drivers would like to see this to .... Had a Vauxhall Astra 16v which had lift off oversteer on almost every wet bend!
The best way to try overcome lift off oversteer in FWD is to countersteer into the skid as you would usually. You should also keep your foot down where possible, to keep the weight on the rear of the car. In It most instances it should pull itself out of the skid.
Another great video reg, but your understanding of how the stability system uses the brakes is slightly wrong. Each wheel/brake is used as a pivot point and uses the cars inertia to correct the slide with contrast input from the yaw sensor and wheel speed sensors. The rear brakes are mostly used for understeering situations. What would usually happen in the skid situation that you created in the video, the passenger side front wheel would brake causing the vehicles weight to rotate around the axis of the braked wheel and thus rotate anti clockwise and straighten up.
Seem to recall Hendon sgt. John Miles in his book "Expert driving the police way" recommending deliberately spinning a car as the quickest way to stop in emergency on slippery roads. Apparently whatever speed cars only spin twice before stopping & a fellow 1960's police instructor had successfully employed the technique on a demo drive in circumstances that would have meant a crash with cadence braking in a straight line.
If the car rotates and starts rolling backwards in a forward gear and you don't manage to depress the clutch, will it ruin the transmission and/or engine?
The car will stall once the driven wheels stop / regain grip. It won’t roll backwards (If the clutch isn’t depressed) I’m not sure but presumably a modern automatic would engage neutral once it detects an issue with the wheel speed relative to the engine.
Love to know what camera mount you use behind the driver/between seats. I'm not convinced suction mounts work anywhere behind the driver on my Focus ST
The mount between the seats is made from a bicycle handlebar mount, fixed to a spring-loaded shower curtain rail, mounted vertically between the floor & roof! Works surprisingly well, especially with GoPro’s excellent image stabilisation.
Is there a worry that the driver gets used to being seamlessly rescued by the stability control, until they reach the point at which the laws of physics can't be dodged? There's a light that flashes when the traction control steps in... does the stability control do the same?
"does the stability control do the same?" yes, and also, there's been studies to show that yes, people do drive more like idiots now that they've got ESP, TC, ABS, and all the other assists, but the help they provide just about outweighs the idiocy it gives the people driving.
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Thank you for doing this Reg,you dont even know how much first time rwd drivers needed you,all love 🥰
Passenger looks thrilled to be there.
During a skid course I was told to always look in the direction you want to go, as this helps with the various inputs you make. You did not mention where to look so was wondering if you agree with this advice? Thanks for another helpful video.
At 8:10
Years ago Dunlop ran an advertisement with Larry Perkins in a V8 Supercar. The car has snaped into oversteer, not by throttle but just lost traction in the wet and it’s sliding down the camber of the road. Larry teases the steering wheel into the slide and the reefs it the other way hard and quick … I love good tyres on a car!
Nice little series of videos reg. thanks.
3:17 "...you can skid into a bus queue, if you're having a really bad day...", It could be that the people in the bus queue will, by now, be having a worse day. LOL Thank you, this gave me a much needed (if not cruel) laugh this morning.
Excellently done and super cool explained 👍
I'd like to see lift off oversteer demonstrated in a front wheel drive car and different ways of catching it if possible.
I've experienced it once not long after getting my licence, entering a right hand bend over a slight crest under trees in autumn with cold tyres, wet roads and rotting leaves under nearside wheels. Stability control caught it, '15 Focus.
Good idea Mark. I’ve been caught out by this - Vauxhall Cavalier on it’s side in a ditch written off. I think lots of FWD drivers would like to see this to .... Had a Vauxhall Astra 16v which had lift off oversteer on almost every wet bend!
The best way to try overcome lift off oversteer in FWD is to countersteer into the skid as you would usually.
You should also keep your foot down where possible, to keep the weight on the rear of the car. In It most instances it should pull itself out of the skid.
Does this apply with hydroplaning also? I guess it depends if you're driving a FWD , RWD or 4WD right?
Another great video reg, but your understanding of how the stability system uses the brakes is slightly wrong. Each wheel/brake is used as a pivot point and uses the cars inertia to correct the slide with contrast input from the yaw sensor and wheel speed sensors. The rear brakes are mostly used for understeering situations. What would usually happen in the skid situation that you created in the video, the passenger side front wheel would brake causing the vehicles weight to rotate around the axis of the braked wheel and thus rotate anti clockwise and straighten up.
@Mark P Superb Technical Excellence in your reply
This makes sense. Braking the front left wheel I guess creates a similar effect to steering left (as Reg recommends) to catch the skid.
Nice video's can you make a vidoe about foot position Thx
The funnest thing you can do in a car by miles
Seem to recall Hendon sgt. John Miles in his book "Expert driving the police way" recommending deliberately spinning a car as the quickest way to stop in emergency on slippery roads. Apparently whatever speed cars only spin twice before stopping & a fellow 1960's police instructor had successfully employed the technique on a demo drive in circumstances that would have meant a crash with cadence braking in a straight line.
Honestly, this is the worst advice I’ve ever heard. Please ignore this advice completely.
@@RegLocal Wondered what you'd think of it. I would not do it either!
@@aztimms Sounds like advice from before disc brakes when all you had was milk bottle tops that fade under any sort of hard braking above 30 mph :)
@@RegLocal Too late. Wrapped a LaFerrari around a tree.
great video!
Daft Andy looks a bit different since you took him to Russia?
Swapped him for a newer model.
If the car rotates and starts rolling backwards in a forward gear and you don't manage to depress the clutch, will it ruin the transmission and/or engine?
The car will stall once the driven wheels stop / regain grip. It won’t roll backwards
(If the clutch isn’t depressed)
I’m not sure but presumably a modern automatic would engage neutral once it detects an issue with the wheel speed relative to the engine.
Any one else voting for Reg as Prime Minister?
Thanks, but I prefer to work for a living.
Love to know what camera mount you use behind the driver/between seats. I'm not convinced suction mounts work anywhere behind the driver on my Focus ST
The mount between the seats is made from a bicycle handlebar mount, fixed to a spring-loaded shower curtain rail, mounted vertically between the floor & roof! Works surprisingly well, especially with GoPro’s excellent image stabilisation.
@@RegLocal Best get my handyman son onto it! 😆
Is there a worry that the driver gets used to being seamlessly rescued by the stability control, until they reach the point at which the laws of physics can't be dodged? There's a light that flashes when the traction control steps in... does the stability control do the same?
"does the stability control do the same?" yes, and also, there's been studies to show that yes, people do drive more like idiots now that they've got ESP, TC, ABS, and all the other assists, but the help they provide just about outweighs the idiocy it gives the people driving.
I do miss rear wheel drive
please make a video of drifting
The Passenger looks bored
The passenger looks uninterested and angry about something