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This is a great channel. My son and I have a 1974 1.8 Olympic Blue. We just did the suspension after watching your video. This is such a great channel. I live near 914rubber and go there every week!$$$
Thank you so much for your videos. I just got a 914 today. It’s been in the family for many years. I had not seen it in several years but bought it anyway. So happy to see that it has very little body rust. Especially for a Michigan/Ohio car. The undercarriage is not so pretty, but okay. Thanks again for the videos.
Well done. After 18 914's I did have one that was rust free though. 1974 car with only 27,000 miles on it, stored indoors for the last 25 years. still had cosmoline on underside and wheel wells. but, after reviewing hundreds of cars, it really was one in a hundred. Now I am happy to find ones with only hell hole or battery tray rust.
I'll second, third, and fourth tip #4 #4 #4!! It's like the old real estate adage - "Location location location." Do not be seduced by the 2.0 liter with all the options but has rust problems. Buy the cleanest car you can afford.
Thankfully, the body panels are cheap to get, and welding (lol) I am going to Carbon Fiber everything I can get away with. lol One I got is a 76 with a v6 stuck in the rear, floor is really bad so have been working on making a carbon fiber tub for it.
Amazing videos! Super helpful. I have a 914. I was wondering if there is anyway I can have someone value it for me? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you all!
I bought two 914s, Rusty and Rustier, for $1,200. Rustier is the doner car and I got it because it contained $1,300 worth of non rusting parts I wanted. I’ve spent way more on underside rust than I bought a brand new ‘73 914 1.7 in Aug. 1973. But since then I’ve been to welding school and expect to be able to repair much of the rest without the $95/hr welding fees. With the help of your vids I’m taking off the front suspension to repaint the underside. My biggest problem is space. All the “stuff” I’ve taken out of the car to work on it reminds me of the circus clown car I saw as a kid where about 20 clowns climbed out from a car barely big enough for one person. My poor garage is overflowing with the contents.
Nice work as always Ian! Another reason I believe the rear trunks get so rusty is the seals that filed quickly and allowed water in. The ones that were used around the wires to the licence plate lights were a universal hole plug for Porsche and were used in a lot of ways. They were kind of like a doughnut with a thin membrane covering the hole in the middle. You would poke a hole through it depending on the size you needed. Obviously, in Germany, it was a little more precise than this but you get the idea. The end result was that tin membrane would shrivel over time and allow water in. the seals around the taillights were also a culprit with the rust issue.
914 dont really rust any faster than most other 70s era cars. As some one who orig. came from upper midwest... X19, 1800,912, Lancia,Ghi, 411, 911,Ghibli, saab , bimmers, chyrslers, Amc,, they were all shot. If you drove them in winter and on salty roads and you didn't flush them out periodically, orig paint would start to bubble up in a few weeks. Relocating to the SW many years ago and just crawling around my Laguna blue 914 its as new and NOT rusted...Dry climate....no salt....Any unibody rusted out will fold like a cheap suit.
IMO 914 are crap anyway. I have had a few. They are hard to work on. not really great handling, Had issues with the heads dropping valve seats. and Poorly engineered. Just stand clear. IMO.
@@IanKarr yea for guys who want to restore 914. I did the same for a VW bus. You are right about where they rust. Had a few of them years ago. and some 911s. as well as many other cars. got your back too.
@@toolmanthetim7042 yea maybe when they were new but those exhaust studs. IDK about 20 minutes. Had several of them 914s. IMO like a Fierro I just dont like to work on them. You almost need a 2 post hoist to do a tune up. Not for me. either VW or 911. I love that r and r engine and trans change belt install engine and trans. Fix all the bad connections at the injector harness. set the timing in that little hole. then fuel starts to leak at the injector tighten clamps. OMG..... REALLY
@@Mikefngarage yeah, big help in maint. was to make the engine cover removable, with a hood pin on each side. move battery to front trunk. with a lift engine out is easy.loosen everything up, fuel line and cable, wire harness. lower the car till the engine is on a table, and remove bolts, lift car. oh, yeah ... halfshafts!
Congrats on the father / son project! Sorry...I don't check insta very often. I know I should ;). Please PM me on 914world.com. My user name is cuddy_k.
i dont agree buying someone elses completed resto seen so many times people get burned on them with dodgy work only having to pour thousands of dollars more in to them to fix poor work
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I owned a Porsche 914 from 1970 to 1978. Loved it. Yes, they do rust...............
people who worked on them at the factory said you could hear them rusting ;)
This is a great channel. My son and I have a 1974 1.8 Olympic Blue. We just did the suspension after watching your video. This is such a great channel. I live near 914rubber and go there every week!$$$
Really appreciate it. Glad you find the videos helpful!
Thank you, Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for your videos. I just got a 914 today. It’s been in the family for many years. I had not seen it in several years but bought it anyway. So happy to see that it has very little body rust. Especially for a Michigan/Ohio car. The undercarriage is not so pretty, but okay. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks for watching, John! And best of luck with your family 914!
Well done. After 18 914's I did have one that was rust free though. 1974 car with only 27,000 miles on it, stored indoors for the last 25 years. still had cosmoline on underside and wheel wells. but, after reviewing hundreds of cars, it really was one in a hundred. Now I am happy to find ones with only hell hole or battery tray rust.
sounds awesome!
I learned more about 914’s in this short video than ever before. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! please subscribe for lots more 914 vids!
Hi Ian,
I am a huge 914 fan. Thanks for the tips on rust.
Saleem
Thanks, Saleem! Please subscribe if you haven't already...lots more coming!
I'll second, third, and fourth tip #4 #4 #4!! It's like the old real estate adage - "Location location location." Do not be seduced by the 2.0 liter with all the options but has rust problems. Buy the cleanest car you can afford.
We all make that mistake, Once ;)
Thankfully, the body panels are cheap to get, and welding (lol) I am going to Carbon Fiber everything I can get away with. lol One I got is a 76 with a v6 stuck in the rear, floor is really bad so have been working on making a carbon fiber tub for it.
Sounds cool!
I dont know anything about cars so cant do it, but this car is the COOLEST car ever.
Thanks Stevey. I have to agree! Please subscribe for more!
@@IanKarr would I be able to pay you to look at a car listing for me? Like the online ad
@@unwelcomemotivation hi Stevey. I’d be happy to take a look. But I wont charge u!
Send me an email at ian@ikacollective.com
Amazing videos! Super helpful. I have a 914. I was wondering if there is anyway I can have someone value it for me? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you all!
Thanks! Best suggestion is to post a bunch of photos and the story of the car on 914world.com. You'll get lots of educated opinions.
I bought two 914s, Rusty and Rustier, for $1,200. Rustier is the doner car and I got it because it contained $1,300 worth of non rusting parts I wanted. I’ve spent way more on underside rust than I bought a brand new ‘73 914 1.7 in Aug. 1973. But since then I’ve been to welding school and expect to be able to repair much of the rest without the $95/hr welding fees. With the help of your vids I’m taking off the front suspension to repaint the underside. My biggest problem is space. All the “stuff” I’ve taken out of the car to work on it reminds me of the circus clown car I saw as a kid where about 20 clowns climbed out from a car barely big enough for one person. My poor garage is overflowing with the contents.
Ha. Yep. A deconstructed car takes up way more space than a running one!
No truer words have ever been spoken.
yep!
Your presentation is on point, well done, Ian.
Thanks!
Nice work as always Ian! Another reason I believe the rear trunks get so rusty is the seals that filed quickly and allowed water in. The ones that were used around the wires to the licence plate lights were a universal hole plug for Porsche and were used in a lot of ways. They were kind of like a doughnut with a thin membrane covering the hole in the middle. You would poke a hole through it depending on the size you needed. Obviously, in Germany, it was a little more precise than this but you get the idea. The end result was that tin membrane would shrivel over time and allow water in. the seals around the taillights were also a culprit with the rust issue.
Great insight, as always. Thanks 914 Rubber for all you do for the community...and to keep these addictive cars on the road!
i dont see much rust in my car at all
but needs to check the inside out as u said
I hope your car is solid!
Keep them coming Ian!
Will try!
Rust is like an ice berg. What you see is only the tip.
I live in the North East. Rust check and fluid film are my best friends
Yep! Me too...
This is heartbreaking!!😣
I hear ya. At least their sacrifce is helpig others :)
Who are the people that thumbed down. Must be negative people. Great video. :)
Thanks, Tyler. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I agree with you...but then again, I'm biased ;)
On point Sir.
Much appreciated
914 dont really rust any faster than most other 70s era cars. As some one who orig. came from upper midwest... X19, 1800,912, Lancia,Ghi, 411, 911,Ghibli, saab , bimmers, chyrslers, Amc,, they were all shot. If you drove them in winter and on salty roads and you didn't flush them out periodically, orig paint would start to bubble up in a few weeks. Relocating to the SW many years ago and just crawling around my Laguna blue 914 its as new and NOT rusted...Dry climate....no salt....Any unibody rusted out will fold like a cheap suit.
True. Any ungalvanized car will rust. It just seems that the way these cars were engineered makes them more vulnerable, sooner than most ;)
My only advise about buying someone else's restoration is to make sure they did it right and didn't cut corners.
Yep. Totally agree. Thanks for watching!
Thx mate for video
Glad you enjoyed!
I need someone to do de job. Do you recommend somebody??
which job?
Great topic, Better video! Google "Hell Hole Rust" and you'll see the 914 is almost on every single search result!
Thanks man. Congrats on the growth of your channel too...
Aman I got a 1969 912 a few years ago and Rust Rust Rust :-(
yep. rust came as standard equipment ;)
IMO 914 are crap anyway. I have had a few. They are hard to work on. not really great handling, Had issues with the heads dropping valve seats. and Poorly engineered. Just stand clear. IMO.
It's too late for me, Mike. I'm already addicted. Hey... just checked out your channel and subscribed. Great stuff.
@@IanKarr yea for guys who want to restore 914. I did the same for a VW bus. You are right about where they rust. Had a few of them years ago. and some 911s. as well as many other cars. got your back too.
willing to bet you are a chevy person, prob corvette. hard to work on? engine and transaxle on the shop floor in 20 minutes, back in same time.
@@toolmanthetim7042 yea maybe when they were new but those exhaust studs. IDK about 20 minutes. Had several of them 914s. IMO like a Fierro I just dont like to work on them. You almost need a 2 post hoist to do a tune up. Not for me. either VW or 911. I love that r and r engine and trans change belt install engine and trans. Fix all the bad connections at the injector harness. set the timing in that little hole. then fuel starts to leak at the injector tighten clamps. OMG..... REALLY
@@Mikefngarage yeah, big help in maint. was to make the engine cover removable, with a hood pin on each side. move battery to front trunk. with a lift engine out is easy.loosen everything up, fuel line and cable, wire harness. lower the car till the engine is on a table, and remove bolts, lift car. oh, yeah ... halfshafts!
Hey man I sent you a message on Instagram. My dad and I just got a 914 and were working on it
Congrats on the father / son project! Sorry...I don't check insta very often. I know I should ;). Please PM me on 914world.com. My user name is cuddy_k.
@@IanKarr Ok sounds good I'll reach out to you there!
i dont agree buying someone elses completed resto seen so many times people get burned on them with dodgy work only having to pour thousands of dollars more in to them to fix poor work
Fair point. I should clarify...buying a properly done restoration is cheaper than doing it yourself.
@@IanKarr fair enough comment but your taking a gamble on the quality of it in most cases
There is one problem in buying someone else's restoration. God knows what they did, and who did it.
Great point. Super important to have cars inspected by people who know them.
You don't get tetanus from rust, it's in soil.
Very true. But soil isn't funny ;).