Mysticism - Hadewijch - The Theology and Writings of the Beguine Mystic of Loving the Divine Abyss

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  • @TheEsotericaChannel
    @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

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    • @guidedmeditation2396
      @guidedmeditation2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the age old war between the Ein-Sof and Solar Logos crowds.

  • @L3N0R4L4N3
    @L3N0R4L4N3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I've learned through the years to not hate the religion itself, but those that use Christianity to push their own bigotry and deceptive behaviors. Basically I go by the phrase 'hate the sin, not the sinner,' which is funny to me since I'm Pagan! You are completely right that anyone that wants to have a well-rounded view on Mysticism needs to look into all works from all branches of religions, and that includes all of the Abrahamic religions. That is where Mystics would've also been, and they would've been writing from that viewpoint! Despite my religious views being different, there's plenty that can be taken from the works by these authors, and I think more people need to understand that. Wonderful and fascinating video as always! ❤

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I appreciate this sentiment.

    • @dhdhebeb1780
      @dhdhebeb1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bigot?

    • @ronlussier8570
      @ronlussier8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with you

    • @Mageblood
      @Mageblood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No people are below dignity, and no ideas are above scrutiny - maajid Nawaz

    • @davidnichols2494
      @davidnichols2494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the approach that I have had to take as will

  • @LaneMaxfield
    @LaneMaxfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Wow, I resonate with the idea of "unfaith" on such a visceral level. I sometimes tell people I went through an atheist detox - that in order to discover any kind of real faith I had to completely deny it. I feel so weirdly connected to this idea and I really want to read her work now!

    • @NeanderdeOliveira
      @NeanderdeOliveira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Atheism then is a rite of passage to deep spirituality!

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      While I'm still very much an atheist, I respect that you've entertained more ideas! Too many religious people are not very thoughtful, and have dangerously cartoonish understandings of other people's perspectives.

    • @thuladei5552
      @thuladei5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I became an atheist at 17, grew up Catholic and later tried a Lutheran approach, because I felt that people SHOULD understand their faith on their own terms, but it never satisfied me.
      Because of my atheist journey, I realized the knowledge I craved was no only physical and numerical, but also spiritual. My atheism, in a way, opened me up to receive a waterfall of knowledge, when the droplet of dogma wasn’t cutting it anymore.

    • @weaddictedtoperception
      @weaddictedtoperception 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your justing looking for your top 😂

    • @NeanderdeOliveira
      @NeanderdeOliveira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A Kabbalist teacher I listen to interpreted Jacob’s trajectory as an example of a type that needs to “run away from home,” as it were, before reconnecting there.

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Thank you Justin. It's an honor to call you a friend and a pleasure to be creating educational content alongside you on the topics we love. You set a high bar for the rest of us, both in your scholarship and your thoughtfulness. Looking forward to many more mystical, scholarly years together. With love, Zevi

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I totally share this sentiment and I really honored to share this platform and project of making topics like these - high quality, intellectually rigorous, deeply sympathetic and truly accessible - with folks like you. It's a blessing, to be sure. Here's to many more years of friendship and working together!

    • @ron1313
      @ron1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsotericaChannel
      Is there a specific episode on the Tselem astral body?
      Thanks for the high quality content and making it very approachable.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ron1313 not yet but I'm planning to get to it

    • @ron1313
      @ron1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsotericaChannel
      Thanks for the quick response. I found a old lecture
      th-cam.com/video/lkQQ9gKZNF0/w-d-xo.html

    • @happyjourneygateway
      @happyjourneygateway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm glad you guys paired up in research. I've been keeping up with both of your channels. Good stuff

  • @CourtesyPhone
    @CourtesyPhone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a Christian, I appreciate your opening section. I see a lot of over simplification of Christianity and its history thrown around esoteric and similar corners.

  • @ferretwithatophat9000
    @ferretwithatophat9000 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Pagan minister and seminarian, I do believe the disregard, and even hate for Chrisitianty among esotericists is directly a result of trauma and religious abuse at the hands of the church.
    Most American Pagans (myself included) are ex-Christians who were harmed with legalism at their lowest moments.
    I take it as a work within myself, and to encourage my parishioners, to heal and not paint an entire religion in broad strokes.

    • @SteelyGabler3387
      @SteelyGabler3387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are a lot of spiritually abused out there. Structures of men’s beliefs stirred in a deadly mixture of law and grace.

  • @TaurusVenus
    @TaurusVenus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    This is absolutely fascinating. There is so much here that I feel I’d need to watch several times, and take notes, and/or look into the reading, in order to go deeper. The different forms and modes of experiencing love are quite intriguing (making me want to map/contemplate them). But I’m also struck by your (her) description of the abyss, and the betrayal of love, IN ORDER to experience it most deeply. I feel the pain and tension of duality and unity, most acutely, here. The dance of polarity, of opposites, in order to experience unity. So thought provoking. Thank you for this. 🙏🏻💛

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There's so much going on in her writings, it's truly fascinating!

    • @lorilea3188
      @lorilea3188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Begin the Beguine again.

  • @delphinidin
    @delphinidin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I get really touchy when people are genuinely anti-Christian, because I grew up Christian and had very positive experiences with the church (though I know that's obviously not the case for everybody!). I have always been very comfortable watching your channel, because you've never been anti-Christian. Anti- certain practices, of course, but who isn't? You're definitely hitting the happy medium, and it makes your content both more enjoyable and less intellectually biased. I love seeing a new Esoterica video get uploaded!

  • @ronlussier8570
    @ronlussier8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I am Catholic and I love your channel. My niche within the Catholic tradition is the teaching of the Mystics and the Mystical tradition. Honestly, I appreciate all the information you provide; especially knowing, you are not going to gloss over the bad behavior (and there has been plenty of it) within Catholicism. Thanks for all your work!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I really do my best to name the good and the will, the weal and the woe - otherwise, I just don't feel like I'm being honest.

    • @godisinchargesueowl8599
      @godisinchargesueowl8599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For those who would like to know more about the Catholic faith ,Fr Chris from the Divine Mercy channel, series : Explaining the faith. Bishop Barron has a great ministry as well , Word on Fire. The Franciscan Friars and The Fathers of Mercy give great homilies.

    • @ajpoopfucker
      @ajpoopfucker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to see another catholic in this channel:)

  • @danielbroening
    @danielbroening 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I've been waiting for this one! Thank you so much. I've recently been studying Hilma af Klint. A Christian Theosophist now credited with being the first abstract artist in Western painting who received the insperations for her art during séances. Truly fascinating.

  • @aforbiddenfriend
    @aforbiddenfriend 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for this excellent work! I am a (non-Christian) student of theology and philosophy in Leuven. It’s lovely to hear such a well-researched and thoughtful account of an important Flemish mystic not often remembered.

  • @beatfrombrain
    @beatfrombrain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm absolutely shocked how tightly my mystical beliefs align with hers. I'm not a Christian (they would call me an Apostate I suppose), but the idea that Love is literally "all there is" and is the prime substrate upon which everything else emanates from, is my own personal belief born of one indescribably profound spiritual experience plus years of searching. I feel like I could sit down with her over some beers and we would totally bond haha. Thank you for teaching us about her...

  • @heloiseschumacher
    @heloiseschumacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I first read Hadewijch last year and immediately fell in love with her writings. Very glad to see some great commentary on her!

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are correct. Being criticized by both extremes is a great indication that your academic nuance is sufficiently precise and accurate so as to make no ideologue happy. 😊🤗

  • @Protogonas
    @Protogonas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I may have skipped class today, but at least I can spend my morning coffee learning something more important like this anyways. Appreciate the videos! I'm also currently reading Philosophy of Mysticism by Richard Jones because of you, half way through and is a very excellent book on all the views of mysticism.

  • @ireallylovecilantro
    @ireallylovecilantro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As an atheist witch I love learning about any kind of mysticism. I found this really interesting!

  • @singhjasbeer5216
    @singhjasbeer5216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Had it not been you & your channel I would have never known about so many esoteric traditions of Western Civilization. I would have lived the imagined truth that ‘Only India, the land of Yogis and Gurus had truth’ Thank you so much🙏🙏

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Everywhere and all people's have deep wells, glad to showcase this amazing woman's thought and life.

  • @aimeemorgado8715
    @aimeemorgado8715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you, this was wonderfully inspirational. I went to a Benedictine high school, so powerful women and mysticism were front and center. The rest of the world is missing out.
    Sister Mary Pious (who was later known to me as “Bernice”, once told us all belief and knowledge is both wonderful and terrible, and certainty is dangerous. That memory came back today.

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't believe that "Benedictine high school" is something that actually exists in the same world that I'm living in. This made my day! Thank you for sharing it. 🙂

  • @mjr_schneider
    @mjr_schneider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great work, Dr. Sledge! One of my least favourite aspects of contemporary discussions of mysticism is the tendency for people like Alan Watts to act as if the teachings of the Christian mystics that they like (like Hildegard of Bingen, Julian of Norwich, Meister Eckhart etc.) are somehow fundamentally different and separable from Christianity as a whole. As if Eckhart or Hadewijch were just Buddhists dressed in Christian clothing. This not only misses the point of what these mystics were actually saying and what makes them unique, but ignores how deeply rooted a lot of their more seemingly radical ideas are within the broader Christian philosophical tradition.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, same with medieval occultists like Agrippa or dee - they were pious, if not unusual, Christians

    • @Cavirex
      @Cavirex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Amy Wade please don't divorce Christ from Christianity. Any New Age or Oriental reading will inevitably lead to error when it comes to reception of the Gospels.
      I used to do the same until I recently rejoined the flock.
      Anyways, the same could apply to any religious figure.
      The New Age tendency to mix and match as one pleases is ruining people's spiritual and critical insights, chaining them to gurus who will demand money and devotion for the next piece of their puzzle.
      Don't take this comment harshly, though, I'm not trying to disrespect you. Have a nice day.

    • @ignacelakra6777
      @ignacelakra6777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about tersa of avalia

    • @ignacelakra6777
      @ignacelakra6777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about tersa of avalia

  • @phoenixobrien163
    @phoenixobrien163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A person who can deliver a truly objective and intellectual presentation on TH-cam is so rare, like a pearl of great worth. Dr. Sledge is that pearl. He is simply a great pleasure to listen to.

  • @user-bf7xu3pz5h
    @user-bf7xu3pz5h หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, you are doing most everything right!! I can't imagine why anyone who seriously listens to your content would think that you are either anti-Christian or that you inappropriately defend Christianity. You obviously see the good and great as well as the bad and horrific of every form of spirituality that you discuss. And that, next to your comprehensive grasp of esotericism and your uncanny ability to explain it so clearly to us, is what makes your presentations so compelling. Profound Gratitude!! Prester Bob

  • @marykayryan7891
    @marykayryan7891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for trying to help us with our anti-Christian prejudice. It is something I struggle with all the time. As you say, it is a complex history, as with all older religions. One has to see it in its entirety-the heinous and evil as well as the beautiful, inspirational and even sometimes progressive. Not an easy thing to do.

  • @FrJWF
    @FrJWF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a former student of J.Z. Smith and current Episcopal priest, I completely agree with your assessment of the riches of Christian mysticism existing within the sewer of official Christian culture. Hadewijch is new to me. Thank you for the introduction.

  • @ErinWi
    @ErinWi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Professor, thank you for this! I had never encountered this amazing thinker and mystic before. I agree that there is a puzzling disregard for Christianity in the world of contemporary occultism and mysticism. I also admit that I have played my own part in that and I appreciate being challenged to revise my approach.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We can all learn and grow, and glad to make her better known. She's amazing!

  • @gracefullyyours6508
    @gracefullyyours6508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amen
    As a Christian I agree so much. There is so much spiritual beauty in the church fathers and scripture. They say sometimes the worst part about Christianity is the Christian’s not the faith. And to me that is regardless of whether Jesus was historical, not , or immaculately conceived and was resurrected. The story beneath the scripture and the spiritual foundation has been life changing. Or put another way filled the hole in my heart only Christianity could fill. Even if many may see me as a heretical Christian. But hey maybe that’s why I’m so in love with the faith. Thanks for the video.

  • @jessesaranow7724
    @jessesaranow7724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You and Zevi are my favorite channels on TH-cam. Really, truly diamonds in the rough. Thank you for all of your amazing work.

  • @SimonPoikilia
    @SimonPoikilia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Her poetry is a great gift to both the world and the Dutch language. Thank you so much for this video. Moogt ge baden in minne!

  • @veronicasponchia5838
    @veronicasponchia5838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've watched most of your videos. I've always loved that you are NOT biased

  • @FrankMonday
    @FrankMonday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Funny how layman see things. Case in point, my wife caught me studying Hebrew the other day and asked me if I was up to something evil. Hehe... BTW “I came here for the daemons but stayed because of the archangeli.” Thanks for all your work Dr Justin! To avoid the inherent bias, I always differentiate my Christianity by saying Esoteric Christianity. Seems to deflect some of the hate.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Eh, I'm fine with both dimensions as long as they aren't toxic. Christianity is, like all religions, wonderful and terrible.

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Esoteric Christianity" is a signal for Neo-nazism in some circles.
      Be aware.

  • @abysscallstoabyss55
    @abysscallstoabyss55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🔥❤️🔥 Much love to you all at Esoterica! Thanks for the learning! 🙏

  • @bloglivethehighve
    @bloglivethehighve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love before and after the abiss, always :)
    Medieval Trinity story, suspended in time by you, beautifully❣️
    Thk u 🙏

  • @jasonflorence127
    @jasonflorence127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this channel so much. Most subjects of your videos I have never heard of and sends me down rabbit holes in books and internet. I would not have it any other way. So many different belief systems and majority of the writings are not in English or impossible to get the writing to read. Thank you.

  • @michelleloynes7825
    @michelleloynes7825 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Justin🙏 your the best 🙏 and I love how you champion women ❣️ you got me on one for The Flowing Light of the Godhead🥰❣️🙏 I'll be starting a book club soon 🙏 forever grateful 🙏 oh and I rock my esoterica t-shirt often 🙏 stay blest my friend 🙏

  • @AskALibbieist
    @AskALibbieist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful… thank you so much, Justin! I’ve already approached my publisher about writing a novel about Hadewijch. So inspired!

  • @purpleman1974
    @purpleman1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great episode. Thank you:)
    It is fair to recognize the insights and great deepness of Christian Mysticism. The weight of the exoteric side of Christianity seems to have outshined the great mystics this tradition has given us, such as Ruysbroeck, , Hadewijch, Teresa de Jesús, Juan de la Cruz, Meister Eckhart, all-time giant, etc.

  • @brunomueller6793
    @brunomueller6793 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful presentation. Very balanced between problems and potentials of mysticism at the time of 13the century. Good recommendations for further reading. Excellent summary and intriguing prospects for today, some 700 years late. Thank you.

  • @nicholasmiller3195
    @nicholasmiller3195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder how many people were driven to study esotericism due to negative interactions with modern Christianity. Speaking personally, I was raised Catholic and found myself pushing it away (especially as I got older and during college) while simultaneously seeking out more and more alternative esoteric prospectives. It’s kind of come full circle and now I’m not so apprehensive to specifically Christian concepts but my interest is always academic- I can’t bring myself to fully embrace Christianity.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I that number is rather substantial and am somewhat curious of beliefs born of such a reaction-formation. I've always admired a great deal of Christian philosophers even if the mythology never made the least sense to me.

    • @nicholasmiller3195
      @nicholasmiller3195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsotericaChannel Speaking personally (again) it made me take a pretty hard bent towards atheism but nowadays I find myself going back and forth. The only thing I know is that I don’t know I guess you could say, but I’m trying my best to keep an open mind and your channel has been huge in exposing me to thinkers that I wouldn’t have given much of a chance in years past.

    • @ReallyBrandi
      @ReallyBrandi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholasmiller3195 i watch this channel for the same reason! I do not like or attend church services, although I was raised and raised my boys in private school. ( my youngest attend an all boys school in Anaheim, CA. Servite was started in 1233 (i think) by 7 holy men (frairs) in devotion to the Virgin Mary, in Italy. I've heard we can arrive anywhere in the world where servite is and we won't go hungry or without a roof over our heads....no idea if its true but by the brotherhood we experienced i would say its very true. I tell you this because I too being disillusioned have also returned to my "roots" to see what I believe and dont....I basically tell God, His Son and The Holy Spirit...I believe in You. I do not care what label people slap on you Christian catholic Baptist Muslim Mormon don't care I know they're real and I could care less where the story of Jesus came from. I love hearing all versions and I could care less what year. I do find it fascinating though that people associate the 3 wise men with astrology. I heard that I few weeks ago and am now trying to read up on that. .....forgive my ramble i just wanted you to know you aren't the Lone Ranger out there investigating the crazy paths our ancestors walked.

  • @helenbostock2350
    @helenbostock2350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can honestly say you're right. We all claim we believe and love him

  • @WolfkingTwennytwintwin
    @WolfkingTwennytwintwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s absolutely insanely crazy how you answer my question without any previous messages I love it and I am love and light thank you once again

  • @JoanneGrace11
    @JoanneGrace11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another superb book on Hadewijch is “Love is everything” by Andrew Harvey. A beautiful translated book of her sublime poems. Really lovely!💜🙏🏼

  • @princessedelarue1989
    @princessedelarue1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hadewijch definitely had strong wimple game - thanks so much for such an interesting and well-made video, Justin.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @princessedelarue1989
      @princessedelarue1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheEsotericaChannel I definitely did, though I will probably have to re-watch to make sure I understand everything!

  • @Ristiach
    @Ristiach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This whole channel is amazing and I am currently going through the entire backlog. Thank-you for the wonderfully produced videos and the book recommendations! Please, keep going.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist8162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is an Bagijnenhof in my street in The Hague (Netherlands) They are fascinating places. You only see a big gate in a big wall. You can pass by them for years without noticing it. But once the gate opens, you see this small garden paradise in the middle of city life. They are like a time capsule . Beautifully preserved.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, the one in A'dam is one of my favorite places to sit and just think. It's just lovely and peaceful.

  • @Salsmachev
    @Salsmachev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Someone: "How many times can you say love before it starts to sound weird?"
    Hadewijch: "Hold my beer"

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, this

    • @Salsmachev
      @Salsmachev ปีที่แล้ว

      @Level ARE3RA No thanks

    • @Salsmachev
      @Salsmachev ปีที่แล้ว

      @Level ARE3RA Or I could not do that? Like, take a hint buddy I'm not interested.

  • @LoudWaffle
    @LoudWaffle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel ya on that opening point about anti-Christian (or anti-abrahamic) sentiments in occult, I see the same thing often in modern pagans and atheists, with the three groups usually having in common that they're "driven" to their new beliefs by bad experiences with Christianity (only partly - I'm not trying to devalue their interests). Considering Christianity's pervasiveness in the English speaking world, this makes a lot of sense, as unfortunate as it is.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, it's a pity really. Baby and Bathwater, as they say.

    • @SavageHenry777
      @SavageHenry777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also due to the fact that christianity largely "occulted" its own neoplatonist roots and hijacked a lot of symbolism and philosophy, and for someone to even be set on a positive personal path towards a mystical experience or understanding of themselves they have to un-learn/relearn a great deal in its proper context...

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Being very much an atheist, I think a lot of people (accusers and accused) forget to separate individuals and institutions. Institutional Christianity is awful, but individual Christian people vary widely. I typically find I have the least issue with Christians who are thoughtful and educated in their faith - those who don't critically examine their faith are the ones who perpetuate the larger institutional problems.

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@monsieurdorgat6864 I know lots of people who have positive experiences with "institutional Christianity." Nuance is important in these topics, and dividing it into a binary is not exactly nuanced.
      But yes, people who are thoughtful and educated about their own faith (or any/every faith) tend to be quite pleasant.

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoudWaffle Fair enough - there are many Christian institutions. That being said, we could name many denominations who largely espouse net explicitly harmful beliefs, especially when that denomination is a majority rather than a minority.
      Part of nuance is to acknowledge systemic perspectives, as well as individual perspectives. In fact, dealing with systemic problems is usually more productive.

  • @justinward3218
    @justinward3218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my goodness, as a Catholic convert from Southern US Evangelical Protestantism, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for pointing out the Protestant propaganda. It’s always either Protestant misrepresentation or secular misrepresentation, hardly ever criticism what what we actually are or have done.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not that the church doesn't have it's own share of horrifying problems, but I try to call a spade a spade.

  • @TaurusVenus
    @TaurusVenus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also love your (her) description of living the Trinity. Deeply moving.

  • @martithdurel3974
    @martithdurel3974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been watching several of your videos and just wanted to comment on 2:00 (roughly).
    I appreciate the information you give. I am a Catholic turned agnostic and I have to admit that your video on the Thunder God episode (my introduction to your channel) explained one of the major reasons I turned from organized religion in the first place. (The two faced nature of God, largely between the old and new testament.)
    The church has done some horrific things. Rather, corrupt people with power in the church. But even today, people use the church as a front for their various bigotries. Yet no one seems to blame these events on the church. You manage to point out the atrocities without blaming the church itself, and I oddly find that refreshing.
    I hope to be able to contribute, in some way to the channel, once my financial situation improves. Until then, I will continue to watch the videos you have made and like them at the very least.

  • @Pooneil1984
    @Pooneil1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your feeling for this text really come through in your talk. The poetics and the mysticism make this topic fascinating. This is the most interesting lecture I have head yet on this channel.

  • @pamelapurcell8574
    @pamelapurcell8574 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You Kindly, Divine BroStar, For Your Divine Service To Divine LOVE!!🙏🕊️🩷🕊️🙏

  • @zophielm2362
    @zophielm2362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahhhh! My bestie wrote his doctoral thesis on Hadewich! He's gonna love this!

  • @saltysandia
    @saltysandia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy all of your videos, but this one was extra special. Thank you.

  • @BojoPigeon
    @BojoPigeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The description at 30:43 of becoming the throne of God reminded me of your previous lectures on Merkabah mysticism, in which the mystic seeks to witness, or even sit on the throne of God. Only she puts a twist on that.

  • @jennypendel301
    @jennypendel301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh been waiting for more on Hadewich! Thank you Dr. Sledge as always for your work!

  • @dionysusyphus
    @dionysusyphus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my main reasons for going to you is for your honest non-partisan take on the history, texts, figures, and religions you enlighten. It felt very refreshing having someone else who took a step back and just looked at these as the fascinating and beautiful mysteries our otherworldly past amazingly hosted.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course, I have my own biases - I just hope to check them as far as I can. But, I really hope to cover this material as honestly and non-partisan as I can. History deserves that.

  • @HuntingTheEnd
    @HuntingTheEnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6 you so much for an introduction to some amazing and powerful works, but also the fascinating history of this Medieval women's movement!

  • @gaialily7072
    @gaialily7072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I love this channel more and more. I especially appreciate learning about this history of women. Can you do a video of Mary Magdalene? 🌹❤️

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting idea!

    • @gaialily7072
      @gaialily7072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheEsotericaChannel ❤️ Thank you for your response and consideration. 😊

  • @ShrimplyPibblesJr
    @ShrimplyPibblesJr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a Christian and this is one of my favorite channels

    • @SteelyGabler3387
      @SteelyGabler3387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a Christian Mystic and this is good stuff.

  • @BekkiAnnArt
    @BekkiAnnArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making these videos. I can't express how much I enjoy learning from you!

  • @hyphalpriestess2003
    @hyphalpriestess2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Sledge,
    Thank you for putting effort into this episode.

  • @DarkMoonDroid
    @DarkMoonDroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found a podcast/video of McGinn today and it was amazing!
    *The Crisis of Mysticism: Quietism in 17th Century Spain, Italy, and France*

  • @isarmawinter1816
    @isarmawinter1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woohoo! Sorry I’m excited 😆

  • @WolfkingTwennytwintwin
    @WolfkingTwennytwintwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you once again you were surly sent to me from God you teach me so much all the while introducing me to other’s for me to learn from
    The first words ever spoken come out a song so beautiful that it created life
    And it was a Love song
    God loves us
    And wants to be loved from us

  • @apothecaryjames7968
    @apothecaryjames7968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I followed your buddy! I can't wait to start watching his videos. TY for spreading the knowledge. 💕

  • @creepyjanitor
    @creepyjanitor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh man this is one is really great and so well put together. It's seems even the light of the sun is not exempt from cycles of condemnation and exhalation.

  • @lisagendron2580
    @lisagendron2580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this balanced and thoughtful introduction

  • @thirstsnake
    @thirstsnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for yet another fascinating video! I have always appreciated your respect for women and their sizable contributions to esoteric and occult subjects as they are often overlooked or dismissed. Hadewijch's daring view on a divine abyss of love is haunting and you've inspired me to learn more about this innovative, visionary woman. 🖤

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Of course, I really enjoy making episodes like this. Of course, I'm also happy to amplify marginalized voices in esoterica as I can. I means esoterica itself is marginalized and if we're going to do the history, we should do it fully, especially focusing on the voices least heard historically but deeply deserving of a platform. Hadewijch fits that bill exactly. Thanks for the kind comment!

  • @corticallarvae
    @corticallarvae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have intellectual rigor doc. Looking out for others is awesome of you.

  • @y0k0z00na
    @y0k0z00na 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me at "psychological escape velocity". Seriously your opinions only seem rooted in honest transparent observation and analysis. - former Christian, currently exploring Daoism and Buddhism.

  • @oaxacachaka
    @oaxacachaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    True about Christianity, Judaism and Islam. They seem to have deeeeeeeeeep spirituality.

  • @amber.cartomancer
    @amber.cartomancer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Christian I think you are more than fair. You hold the Church to task, at least in my opinion 😊

  • @allendominguez2865
    @allendominguez2865 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your consistent academic integrity!

  • @MarcelaBellyDance
    @MarcelaBellyDance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing episode! Thank you so much🙏🏽

  • @mm-gg4hc
    @mm-gg4hc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Sledge, I hope fervently that you can do a piece on Mechtild of Magdeburg, another Beguine. Thank you for your great kindness with this channel.

  • @GijsInc
    @GijsInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this video, although I just started watching it. I'm a Dutch student in my undergraduate considering going into medieval studies. I'm currently writing a paper on the role of female embodiment in Hadewijch's visions versus the decidedly male role she takes on in her love songs. I will probably go into contemporary literature but the middle ages and mysticism are close to my heart and Hadewijch is the GOAT.
    I take the approach of a literary scientist, not a religious scholar. The input from that perspective is very valuable and it's just nice to see you talking about one of my favourite writers. I have recordings of the songs, in the Middle Dutch with reconstructed melody, sung by professionals, that I listen to. I've read all of her visions in the original Middle Dutch, too. It's very beautiful and does make me wonder about all the amazing Latin (and Greek, Hebrew, etc.) medieval and ancient texts I'm missing out on, but I rejoice in the fact that being able to read Middle Dutch is probably more rare than any of those! ;)
    I've got the video saved for later; very curious what perspective you have to offer us on Hadewijch and I will edit with any comments or questions I have!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! Looking forward to your comments. I've heard that Middle-dutch isn't too difficult for modern Dutch readers - is that your experience?

    • @GijsInc
      @GijsInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsotericaChannel It is relatively easy compared to learning say Latin, ofcourse, but there is a definite learning curve. I'd say it's a lot like reading Middle English, or probably a little harder honestly. (I've read a bunch of Chaucer and some random poems which I'm going off) The lexical changes might be smaller for Dutch but unmarked clitics, cases instead of prepositions, latinisms and so on throw you off. It took me practice but I can read it pretty comfortably since getting into it three years ago.
      Unrelated side note, but I have found that Middle English is very accesible to me as someone who speaks Dutch and English fluently, even before I got into Middle Dutch and even though English is a second language. There is a lot of words with Germanic roots that were replaced by words of Latin origin, so that they are completely foreign to English speakers but are instantly recognizable cognates of Dutch or German.
      Hadewijch is considered the most difficult Middle Dutch material we have. 95% of what I've read on her is extracurricular. We get translations of everything with a few exceptions of fragments, for Hadewijch everything was translated. So it is considered too difficult or labour intensive to ask of undergraduates.
      Some of the original is still very obscure to me, and the Dutch translations don't do it complete justice so I don't imagine the English ones could. Translation is interpretation and Hadewijch is not easy to interpret. She was a very gifted stylist though, as you said, and I'm glad that comes through in translation! The original is absolutely stunning and completely otherworldly. Reading the Visions for the first time is one of my favourite literary experiences ever.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GijsInc Thanks for this very thoughtful and thorough answer!

    • @GijsInc
      @GijsInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsotericaChannel oh hey and my close friend is doing his Masters in Western Esotericism in Amsterdam, shout-out!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GijsInc Hope they enjoy it - I did!

  • @ebonimajek9001
    @ebonimajek9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love is the way, and unconditional understanding.

  • @katharina5841
    @katharina5841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to watch 3 times to really absorb this haha (I was a bit distracted but still) wow! You are one of the best channels ever

  • @corvus_king3282
    @corvus_king3282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when learning about the Beguines and Hadewijch in my undergrad class on Spirituality and later when I was writing my senior paper on Divine Love using Julian of Norwich and Rumi.

  • @normanleroy1874
    @normanleroy1874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Sledge, do you have any interest in The Cloud of Unknowing or in Dionysius the Pseudo-Aereopagite? Both would be good topics, I think. There are many interesting threads in Christian mysticism.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep, I'll get to those, but they are otherwise better known.

  • @courtneyleduc
    @courtneyleduc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a beautiful lecture thanks doc

  • @olmgaijin9476
    @olmgaijin9476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is amazing, glad it crossed my path.

  • @TrithemiusFinnegan
    @TrithemiusFinnegan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love your channel, you maintain my interest in these topics by dropping extensive videos on some of the most important ideas of our history, don’t listen to the trolls and naysayers, you keep up the great work!

  • @lukenakahara7272
    @lukenakahara7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to my world. Keep up cranking out the fabulous content

  • @silentobserver888
    @silentobserver888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always 👌

  • @Jason-ms8bv
    @Jason-ms8bv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I LOVE this episode! The mystics of the Abrahamic faiths are often overlooked, I think because their experiences challenge the 'orthodox' view, all the more reason to study and understand them.

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Often because they were mowed down like summer grass to the point people only see the machines of death.

  • @dionysusyphus
    @dionysusyphus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for expose me to her, as I've had revelation that were eerily similar and the conclusions I couldn't escape until it consumed me being the only thing there is until all became unintelligible in dionysian rapture and that experience never left me. And just learning that oxytocin is both the chemical biologically giving rise to Love but also Hate, so it seems this notions is even reflected empirically. Thank you so much for gifting me the knowledge of her, she already feels like a journey into gnosis I'll joyously get lost for years to come.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's so worth reading - I think you'll find her works amazing.

  • @contextproblems2191
    @contextproblems2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all you do. X

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this. I often get tired of reading sources -- and since hitting my 50s, my patience drains much more quickly -- where any women mentioned are basically NPCs. This is what caused me to put down the Tomer Devorah that you recommended. I bought it, but after reading sixteen variations of "Dovod and Baruch were having an argument about their four sons," I just tuned out. I know there are things to be gained from it but I've spent 55 years squeezing the lemon of All-Male Wisdom, and it's time to pick up another one.
    It's lovely to read things by women with that perspective built-in. I've found that while certain things are invariable, there is a recognizable difference in mysticism and theology as analyzed by women.
    I wish that women had participated in the creation of the Talmud as well, but then I look at my copy of the Torah Women's Commentary and think to myself, "You idiot. Don't complain. You are living contemporary with the next millennium's Ancient Women Elders. People in a 1,000 years will give their eyeteeth to be alive at the same time as the women who wrote that!" Women's Torah commentary, siddurim with women's contributions, and music by women ... all being created as I sit here!

  • @reginapendleton9041
    @reginapendleton9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this introduction.

  • @blueXrain
    @blueXrain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. Her philosophy seemed to me that it was a metaphor for living life with pain in order to feel bliss and reward. That is what I took from it after listening to your whole episode.

  • @evawsee8327
    @evawsee8327 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content - as usual - thank you!

  • @lantzeerie2481
    @lantzeerie2481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As profound as it is humorous! Thanks for this treat.

  • @DaringDan
    @DaringDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the wimple flex slayed me

  • @Holktube
    @Holktube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always smile a bit when these histories inevitably get to the part where the subject tries to describe their philosophy with a numbered list. Medieval life wasn't so different from youtube, after all!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not so hard, especially when the medieval people give you said numbered list.

  • @anapineiro2907
    @anapineiro2907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love you Dr. Sledge

  • @elodiesalgado4739
    @elodiesalgado4739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @mm-gg4hc
    @mm-gg4hc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stunning, thank you.

  • @retroartists3525
    @retroartists3525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really started to understand advanced Esoteric world after watching Sat Yoga institute on TH-cam.
    Could you pls give your valuable insights
    On in next episode
    💚💚

  • @quorraquar2677
    @quorraquar2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Beguine remind of a sort of inverted version of Buddhism. Thank you again Dr. Sledge 💜

  • @PrimoFreq
    @PrimoFreq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ⭐️Outstanding Work❤️thank you