@God Fist Revamped AE with skill note and in awakening is incredibly powerful for a 150mp SA with decent freeze frame, low mp feed, and large knockdown reduction. X-crash has been overall nerfed in damage and lost utility/range with burning rush being changed so you can't get a large distance covered with it anymore. Both have different purposes, even now after this video was made I went back to AE as it really is the better skill. But I rarely EVER use it, and am wishing I had xcrash in stead haha.
Elizabeth Makary The best SD set for basically everyone is 5-x, the glitter set. 6-x ancient guardian is also pretty good for most, but the sheer amount of healing a raven can pull off with 5-x and core refund is immense.
I have no idea at all about the new henir sets. They're so impossibly stupid to get now that I never even bothered to look at them. Regardless, 5-x is nearly game breaking in terms of how good it is in arena.
It was an amazing vid (since im starting to get interested in Raven) But literally Ravens fight like: Dash Jump Jump Slash dash jump jump jump jump dash slash jump catch combo end ... lol
Hmm I switched to rf from BM but is not that familiar with rf and wat is needed can u tell me wat I need to socket, and is rf more of speed or damage? I'm clueless help me when u can IGN: lucair
I'd be glad to help you in game as well but heres some input. Mmm Well here's the deal. RF IS the berserker class really, he's all about awakening and burst damage. I just like to combo/xdrop with him lol. While you can get away with 20% attack speed, he is slower than the other Ravens, especially BM with his free 5% un-normalized attack speed passive. It's up to you to get over 20% if you want, I'm content with 20.5% because Im decently swift with raven combo mechanics to give myself the illusion of higher attack speed. That being said stats are almost the same for most people, for pvp you'd want atleast 20% in all speeds. 25-40% crit. Atleast 3k+ add damage(preferably higher) Atleast 25% reduce damage. Now here's the clincher, you're gonna need awakening charge. Lots of it. Either socket atleast 25% or get in a guild with wrath passive(crazy good). I frown upon RoF but it really is the best bang for your buck ring, up to you to get it, will help ALOT(but its 4n0skillqueers.) Other than that, its up to you to decide your own play style. Awakened charged bolt hedgehog noted constantly for burst/free catches are pretty effective way to play RF but also damn ugly and boring imo. Awakened Noted AE can decimate HP when your opp is low on mp, can also help win hit trades. If you plan to use advanced combos like xdrops dont get explosive fist passive, get the other one. Armor break vs weapon break is preference, but armor break + explosive fist passive + xx>xx is pretty damn strong, and in the future it will be RF's crazy BnB combo. Message me in game and we can see what to work on.
i want to know what kind of gear were you using. also i loved the music especially the ones from accel world.dont know if 1 song was from beelzebub or not but i enjoyed it
First of all you're awesome :) I just made a raven (I'm new to raven) and it is still on its base job. I've been having trouble deciding on which class to choose. I'm deciding between RF and VC. Can you atleast give me some insights as to which class is much more suited to pvp and dungeons(I like to dungeon grind xD) I have a Wind Sneaker who is at rank S btw :)
Pixelated.Panda Dank homie. And as to which is more suited to pvp/pve... Honestly they both do PvE really well, and at my best I've been able to do great with both but then again there's very few characters who can't do well in pve. PvP on the other hand, you might find RF the easier one to use and abuse with his natural high damage and easy to combos/skills. VC isn't really any magnitude of difficulty harder than RF, but the biggest difference is their ability for advanced play and set ups, if thats a thing for you. RF in pvp now kinda feels like he's just standing still half the time and waiting for limit crusher, almost like base Raven because lack of options Let me get my post from before it'd explain it easier. In the end I ask you this, would you rather incinerate everything in the universe or show it your shining finger. "Lets uhh adress something. RF's strength in pvp is high, probably the highest of the Ravens currently minus special actives. VC still basically controls that, with RF's awakened skill noted Arch Enemy being a great contender. Now as you put it "as a person who has jsut started Raven" you'd love RF. You'd love his power, and his newly revamped XX combos being easy and stronk, But then we get to the annoying part. It's been troubling high tier RFs for a little while. They've basically made RF too easy in some cases and removed a fair bit of his advanced techniques an combos. While they are still there, you won't get the feeling of reward playing him as say... Blade Master. Granted like I said, this will only really occur to you once you've got the character down pat and are a good player and you'll notice that he doesnt have nearly as much leeway as the other ravens for advanced play. He's by all means a berserker and rush in with super armor frames type character now. He'll still retain his base raven swift movements and cancels, but ... Yeah thats about it. I still enjoy him, but when I hop on my BM/VC and I can just whip out multiple advanced combos/set ups while RF has like ...1 maybe 2? All up to you whether you enjoy advanced/skilled play or just want to win and beat down the opponent."
I used it alot .-. didn't you see? lol It has very high KD so it doesnt have a point unless you run wind or xdrop. So my usual set up is to do that combo into a circle step into >>^zxx ^vx ,... TOTALLY NOT RIPPED FROM MURU
CreepypastaGaming No actually the last hit in zzx>xX has 0 kd as it knocks back, the actual passthrough punch with I-frames(zzx>Xx) has large KD. Still I am a fan of the combo and try to use it as much as I can because kd resets but.....S3 is going to shit on everyone's parade. Well atleast we had fun with out crazy combos while it lasted. This will be a deserved nerf.
Ah there is pretty much no...calculating anymore lol. I just kept xdropping to reset the KD. Well atleast it gets fixed in the future, infinites are never a good thing. Oh also thats a BH.
O.o fail. Otherwise, the x drops where did at the perfect time to not knockdown, calculated or not, it was a pretty nice point I think. And you say infinite are never a good thing.. That is true, but anyway is beautiful. I think KOG won't nerf de KD.. Who knows
Arnau De Castro Sistach Ah yeah my timing with xdrops is good enough I guess haha. Been a RF since release. And I agree combos with style are a good thing to strive for, pushes you farther. Also KoG did nerf KD resets in the future with S3 pvp. That being said...a few people can still infinite.
Yep, now it will be hard to KD reset for the people who abuses. Especially LK, cause with the last revamp air slash does not exist, but now he has fukking revamped windmill that sucks as sheet xD
I don't know if RF is just too strong, but I'm a PvE guy, and I've never done PvP before, but recently I decided to make a RF, and he just does insane amounts of damage. Like, I have under level gear but I'm always getting MVP because of how much damage I do, and in PvP, I got to A rank around level 30-40. So idk if it's a RF thingy of something else spooky is going on...
Tried both, went with Burning hand. Exploding hand is inferior for a few reasons but has its pros. Pros: Pretty nice damage even for RNG passive. If it keeps procing can result in crazy damage fist combos. Doesn't change fists to magical, so meshes VERY well with armor break. Pretty effect that looks even prettier after revamp. Cons: Changes fists hitstun to its own hitstun, which is VERY low. People can disrupt xx>xx combos if they're fast enough. The hitstun it gives also ruins x-drops and the launches before them, hence why I HATE it. Requires armor break to be on opponent to outdamage Burning Hand instead. You COULD actually go with neither, if you want to abuse armor break well and keep xdrops viable. Still debating what I'm going to chose after RF revamp. Seeing as our BnB combo might actually become xx>xx...welp atleast Im running Wind shenanigans I won't have to worry about KD.
XD honestly I tried weapon crash but I plan to switch on the 1st of the month but yeah I still love exploding hand also I'm tanking my RF so I kind of try at least 1 300 cost don't ask y XD I like to risk a loss sometimes but ring of fury is hot on RF so it allows me to start combos when necessary
Problem being that RF doesn't have much over 150mp to tank for effectively. WC is pretty weak after multiple nerfs, VJ is meh for damage. GS and Nuke...lol instant mp breaks. Awakened + noted arch enemy is still pretty damn good with damage now, so I guess there's that. Well you can play which ever way you enjoy most.
As a person who has just started on a Raven and is currently trying to decide what class to go as, how would you say that RF is? I have been leaning more towards using RF and from what i can see it completely kicks butt in PVP. From your experiences, how would someone who is relatively new to using Raven go with a RF and it's prior job class?
Lets uhh adress something. RF's strength in pvp is high, probably the highest of the Ravens currently minus special actives. VC still basically controls that, with RF's awakened skill noted Arch Enemy being a great contender. Now as you put it "as a person who has jsut started Raven" you'd love RF. You'd love his power, and his newly revamped XX combos being easy and stronk, But then we get to the annoying part. It's been troubling high tier RFs for a little while. They've basically made RF too easy in some cases and removed a fair bit of his advanced techniques an combos. While they are still there, you won't get the feeling of reward playing him as say... Blade Master. Granted like I said, this will only really occur to you once you've got the character down pat and are a good player and you'll notice that he doesnt have nearly as much leeway as the other ravens for advanced play. He's by all means a berserker and rush in with super armor frames type character now. He'll still retain his base raven swift movements and cancels, but ... Yeah thats about it. I still enjoy him, but when I hop on my BM and I can just whip out multiple advanced combos while RF has like ...1 maybe 2? All up to you whether you enjoy advanced/skilled play or just want to win and beat down the opponent. I'll eventually have some S3 pvp up with RF and you'll be able to see his bread and butter combos(easyness) and his few remaining advanced combos.
Holy mother of god this was a long response and i greatly appreciate it too! Seeing as i still am not very good at PvP (my main character is level 50 Grand Archer in rank A) i think that i will stick with RF for the time being. Thankyou once again and I am looking forward to seeing your S3 PvP with RF. Keep up the good work man!
UrMenace Ah don't worry about it, only took me like 2-3 minutes to type up anyway. I dont mind having discussions. Also WOO a GA, YOU should keep up the good work lol!
MilkyPoint l Haha, thanks man, and just out of curiosity, are you a big fan of GA or are they just very hard to use in PvP? From what i know, they are one of the hardest PvP classes in the game.
UrMenace I love GA, most people don't know this but my Rena was originally GA lool. And i've become interested in her again basically after she had most of her problems solved and is now a viable 1v1 class. Also don't let others fool you with a class not being high tier being hard to play. ALL the Renas are easy to play. It's just GA is the least viable for 1v1, she's still a monster in the catching department once she gets orbs. She can litter the entire screen with orb stunning arrows, it's fun as hell lool.
Too long D: But that's because I'm lazy. If you run secrets every day on hell it should only take about a month from scratch. MUCH LESS if you buy the elite set to save you time. waa.ai/4TEh
MP regeneration? Probably core refund from when my awakening runs out. Can give up to 100mp back including HP. But elsword can far surpass that with vitality mode, always aim for it.
I assumed MP regeneration from random moments in the game, not when hitting things. So I explained that when Raven awakens he gets a nasod core that follows him. It can be used to attack with but when your awakening runs out, depending on how large the core was, you gain hp/mp. Eve also has the same system.
I'm totally subbing you, so I can watch good pointers for RF tactics against all those classes. @ w @ Like for VC spamming that Flame Sword (Noted), it annoyed me the most. :c Well I'll learn from you from your videos! :D
Thanks a bunch, I'll keep uploading videos expect some more soon. And yeah noted flame sword can be stored so well...it's kinda ridiculous. Mix it up with such an unpredictable class/skilled pilot, you're in for trouble lol.
EVERYONE IS DYING. Seriously the power is stupid lolol, losing >>^zxx launch sucks but he's the same for the most part and is still pretty fun. >>^zx seems to have lost a bit of it's anti-air properties, so it's not viable as a mid air catch anymore. Only good at low altitude to ensure both hits in, the spikes are a joke but fun to mess around with. xx>xx~ combo is...nice as fk and at anypoint in the middle of that combo you can hold down and go right into the spike uppercut, so thats nice. But yeah, Ill get some S3 RF up soon.
Build: waa.ai/4TEh AE vs X-crash is preference. It's also a hybrid pvp/pve build. n' my stats at the time of recording are in the description, future videos will have my updated stats.
Core refunds hp/mp when it goes away when raven's awakening ends, depending on how big it is when it leaves. 5x set combined with that and good awk charge can make you very survivable.
i might take some pointers from future skill builds on my RF im grinding i have to get a ring of fury and b-slot then buy the new costume cruise set that came out.XD gonna look fine
Get exploding nasod hand passive, then you don't need to socket any crit. Stack pure add while ofc getting the minimum for pvp, 20% speeds and 30%+ red. HP is fine as long as you're around 190k+ This is level 70 cap ofc.
MilkyPoint l Mine hp is about 210k :d um i want to ask is cannon blade good for pvp because i use it and it has very good damage but it fails a lot sometimes
Yeah it's actually damn good burst, it just need good positioning. I haven't used it in years but I'm pretty sure it's still the same, get the skill note and then use a >>x. Wait a second for them to flinch back then use cannon blade for maximum hits, does insane damage.
MilkyPoint l Thanks man i was going to use nuclear but 300 mp pff.. its not easy to get and it is easy to mana break so i will use cannon blade :D Do you think wind is better than water attribute and why ?
I use wind simply because I love hard hitting combos, especially with my RF's 100% crit XX~ combos. I'd say the best attribute for RF in pvp would be Water. Ive tried fire III on him in s1-2 pre st revamp, it didn't work well. I plan to try it again and see how well it goes.
lolol what ever works man, though if you truly want to get better it's just a mind set. If you WANT to get better, truly want it, you will. Gonna be alot of putting yourself down at first lol.
what a amazing move catching...your RF is pretty strong and good dmg yo...how can you make that dmg...i know people on SSS Rank have a hight red dmg so for you that can deal a dmg like that is pretty wow i guess :D...Nice job !!
s. luq Ah lol my bad. Also vstep is actually pretty useless on melee chars, it's not even a good mind game once you hit high tiers. If you watch my old LK videos from over a year ago you'd see how much I vstepped constantly lol. That being said, you're right I need to step more. NEEDS MORE STEPS. -rewatches krab's stepping guide-
In this video it's 3pc christmas tuxedo and 2pc groom set and a random hair that I love. Gives a good amount of stats in general like awk/speeds and +50 resist to all attributes.
For RF? None of them, they used to be the scariest thing about him but no longer is that the case. It's all about limit crusher/charged bolt with awakened noted archenemies thrown in.
Edan Yoshiro It's from their album Blackened Fangs and Bloody Claws. Here's their discography. You can sometimes get albums off this site as well. www.crowsclaw.info/disco.php
Well he overtook elboy as the most popular character in NA at one point. Now? ... idk. You should feel glad to get a raven in pvp compared to some other classes lool.
Lol it does but the KD is huge and the entire thing feeds massive MP. Hes got some crazy red going on there though... lol. Barley any1knows the secret that is platform >>vxx, gr8 random invisible hitbox launch into catches.
yes indeed it is not really effective but you know man maybe he's just trying to look cool (or maybe he is'nt ) i mean , some ppl *after elzero debut Was doing hinpopo after blackhole or put some random step ater heavy hitstun pointless it is ? yes it does high risk to fail , not platform friendly it's just because of #swag well you do have point , most of good raven player was on BM rare to see sweg rf or sweg vc tho
Sorry most are my own songs I threw in there and not part of a BGM pack. Ill upload a video if I ever do finish my bgm pack, but...it's gonna be almost all Blazblue OST lmao.
I still had no idea why reckless fist is in medium difficulty based on elwiki.. He is totally hard to beat.. I mean i fight many blademaster and veteran commander well because people start to abandoning reckless fist.. But when i found one.. Iit's like wow
Rifki Fadillah Ignore those ratings, KOG knows nothing. Check out the NA forums for more help/detailed insight on classes. Though even we have our faults.
Either way it doesn't matter. KoG literally knows nothing about their own characters, I can assure you basically all those ratings are wrong. Hell even their stat ratings are wrong.
As a beginner I chose the absolute worst class to pick...raven blade master. Ugh now I'm level 65, rank b and I'm so terrible at this game. I heard that elsword's lord knight class is great for beginners though...
Ignore Me Mmm.. Both Blade Master and Lord Knight arent great class for beginners because they demand so much of you to be able to fully optimize and play them at their best compared to other classes. Though imo, you're doing a great thing. I wish for everyone to pick up and play BM or LK. I feel it'd give everyone a good feel for the way pvp works and build them up nicely simply BECAUSE those classes demand things of you to play well.
MilkyPoint l yeah I realized this fact when I got to sword taker. It took me 2 days to figure out how to do the zzz^zx combo, but that combo only loops in pve, in pvp it knocks them down so that's a bust. I still haven't even figured out how to do a Quickstep and I don't even know what an x drop is. I've been able to spam a combo I taught myself but it gives my opponent WAY to much mp.
Actually zzz^zx is a viable combo in pvp and lowers the knock down value through an xdrop. Literally just look for blade master play on youtube and try to emulate them in some way. Oh and an xdrop is basically any input thats ^x usually part of an advanced combo which has benefits of higher damage and lowering KD.
Yeah I love how every single Raven in PvP just ^ Z to cath the oponent, is like if there arent any other way to star a combo, also if you dont move they look ridiculus just jumping and attacking and they are all angry like "hey you evader yet you dont let me catch you" hahaha
I first though you were joking around when you posted this comment months ago. But now I see you're the joke. Only a garbage player wouldn't mana break. Because ANY slightly good player will know how to infinite and maximize their damage and combos. Go ahead, don't mana break me. You'll be dead and not get a chance to even fight back, that is a foolish mentality.
lol, I know there is more that one match, I was browsing through and found that three executive video showcasing rf pvp has a bm. Well, I'm just saiyan, don't mind me.
did i say executive? I meant consecutive. lol. And I second your statement, good sir. I love to watch highly intense matches, which he's so close to killing and vice versa.
Old memories :'( aahhhh nostalgia
0:01 dat is one drn good BM there. Loved that match, great vid overall.
Tanks s0n, Asperse is 1 scary BM lols.
Wait for the future, even better game play later on.
When you had to actually combo. Those were the good times.
Muy buen pvp tio, te mereces otro seguidor ;) me ha encantado el primer mach, ha sido muy intenso
@bryaen chuk
It's just zzx
@God Fist
Revamped AE with skill note and in awakening is incredibly powerful for a 150mp SA with decent freeze frame, low mp feed, and large knockdown reduction.
X-crash has been overall nerfed in damage and lost utility/range with burning rush being changed so you can't get a large distance covered with it anymore.
Both have different purposes, even now after this video was made I went back to AE as it really is the better skill. But I rarely EVER use it, and am wishing I had xcrash in stead haha.
Hey Milky!
Elizabeth Makary The best SD set for basically everyone is 5-x, the glitter set. 6-x ancient guardian is also pretty good for most, but the sheer amount of healing a raven can pull off with 5-x and core refund is immense.
MilkyPoint l Thanks! And what do you think of absolute space and time ruler? n.n (for RF)
I have no idea at all about the new henir sets.
They're so impossibly stupid to get now that I never even bothered to look at them.
Regardless, 5-x is nearly game breaking in terms of how good it is in arena.
haha you are right umm... you are spanish? i saw ur QUEEEEEE in the chat xD
It was an amazing vid (since im starting to get interested in Raven) But literally Ravens fight like:
Dash Jump Jump Slash dash jump jump jump jump dash slash jump catch combo end ... lol
12:00 Star Ocean : First Departure? got love SO series xD, and u rock on pvp i wish i could move like u with my RF
Tanks homie!
Hmm I switched to rf from BM but is not that familiar with rf and wat is needed can u tell me wat I need to socket, and is rf more of speed or damage? I'm clueless help me when u can
IGN: lucair
I'd be glad to help you in game as well but heres some input.
Mmm Well here's the deal. RF IS the berserker class really, he's all about awakening and burst damage. I just like to combo/xdrop with him lol.
While you can get away with 20% attack speed, he is slower than the other Ravens, especially BM with his free 5% un-normalized attack speed passive. It's up to you to get over 20% if you want, I'm content with 20.5% because Im decently swift with raven combo mechanics to give myself the illusion of higher attack speed.
That being said stats are almost the same for most people, for pvp you'd want atleast 20% in all speeds. 25-40% crit. Atleast 3k+ add damage(preferably higher) Atleast 25% reduce damage. Now here's the clincher, you're gonna need awakening charge. Lots of it. Either socket atleast 25% or get in a guild with wrath passive(crazy good). I frown upon RoF but it really is the best bang for your buck ring, up to you to get it, will help ALOT(but its 4n0skillqueers.)
Other than that, its up to you to decide your own play style. Awakened charged bolt hedgehog noted constantly for burst/free catches are pretty effective way to play RF but also damn ugly and boring imo. Awakened Noted AE can decimate HP when your opp is low on mp, can also help win hit trades. If you plan to use advanced combos like xdrops dont get explosive fist passive, get the other one.
Armor break vs weapon break is preference, but armor break + explosive fist passive + xx>xx is pretty damn strong, and in the future it will be RF's crazy BnB combo.
Message me in game and we can see what to work on.
That second match was funny
T-T long time havent seen any pvp st-revamp RF(since RF videos really hard to find), THIS IS COOLEST MATCH I EVER WATCH..
lol thanks, people just aren't big on uploading big pvp vids anymore at high tier.
Expect alot more in the future.
What effect your choose in costume ? and socket? Plsss :)
i want to know what kind of gear were you using. also i loved the music especially the ones from accel world.dont know if 1 song was from beelzebub or not but i enjoyed it
Ow... There! i switched from EM to RF, can you help me? i mean basic styles, catch etc. i Suck in using RF, but i want that char :(
First of all you're awesome :)
I just made a raven (I'm new to raven) and it is still on its base job. I've been having trouble deciding on which class to choose. I'm deciding between RF and VC. Can you atleast give me some insights as to which class is much more suited to pvp and dungeons(I like to dungeon grind xD)
I have a Wind Sneaker who is at rank S btw :)
Pixelated.Panda Dank homie.
And as to which is more suited to pvp/pve...
Honestly they both do PvE really well, and at my best I've been able to do great with both but then again there's very few characters who can't do well in pve.
PvP on the other hand, you might find RF the easier one to use and abuse with his natural high damage and easy to combos/skills.
VC isn't really any magnitude of difficulty harder than RF, but the biggest difference is their ability for advanced play and set ups, if thats a thing for you. RF in pvp now kinda feels like he's just standing still half the time and waiting for limit crusher, almost like base Raven because lack of options
Let me get my post from before it'd explain it easier.
In the end I ask you this, would you rather incinerate everything in the universe or show it your shining finger.
"Lets uhh adress something.
RF's strength in pvp is high, probably the highest of the Ravens
currently minus special actives. VC still basically controls that, with
RF's awakened skill noted Arch Enemy being a great contender.
Now
as you put it "as a person who has jsut started Raven" you'd love RF.
You'd love his power, and his newly revamped XX combos being easy and
stronk,
But then we get to the annoying part. It's been troubling high tier RFs for a little while.
They've
basically made RF too easy in some cases and removed a fair bit of his
advanced techniques an combos. While they are still there, you won't get
the feeling of reward playing him as say... Blade Master.
Granted
like I said, this will only really occur to you once you've got the
character down pat and are a good player and you'll notice that he
doesnt have nearly as much leeway as the other ravens for advanced play.
He's
by all means a berserker and rush in with super armor frames type
character now. He'll still retain his base raven swift movements and
cancels, but ...
Yeah thats about it. I still enjoy him, but
when I hop on my BM/VC and I can just whip out multiple advanced combos/set ups
while RF has like ...1 maybe 2?
All up to you whether you enjoy advanced/skilled play or just want to win and beat down the opponent."
have you tried that zzx>x? its a dash though and its helpful to avoid corners and possible traps
I used it alot .-. didn't you see? lol
It has very high KD so it doesnt have a point unless you run wind or xdrop.
So my usual set up is to do that combo into a circle step into >>^zxx ^vx ,...
TOTALLY NOT RIPPED FROM MURU
? zzx>X doenst have one IF you dont hit the last x but i use that combo from time to time lol il not as good as you XD but anyway nice gameplay
CreepypastaGaming
No actually the last hit in zzx>xX has 0 kd as it knocks back, the actual passthrough punch with I-frames(zzx>Xx) has large KD. Still I am a fan of the combo and try to use it as much as I can because kd resets but.....S3 is going to shit on everyone's parade.
Well atleast we had fun with out crazy combos while it lasted. This will be a deserved nerf.
ohhh well when i use it it doesnt do a KD at all :/ oh well XD
Omg that match vs GM at 24... The knockdown calculation was godlike
Ah there is pretty much no...calculating anymore lol.
I just kept xdropping to reset the KD. Well atleast it gets fixed in the future, infinites are never a good thing.
Oh also thats a BH.
O.o fail. Otherwise, the x drops where did at the perfect time to not knockdown, calculated or not, it was a pretty nice point I think. And you say infinite are never a good thing.. That is true, but anyway is beautiful.
I think KOG won't nerf de KD.. Who knows
Arnau De Castro Sistach
Ah yeah my timing with xdrops is good enough I guess haha. Been a RF since release. And I agree combos with style are a good thing to strive for, pushes you farther.
Also KoG did nerf KD resets in the future with S3 pvp. That being said...a few people can still infinite.
Yep, now it will be hard to KD reset for the people who abuses. Especially LK, cause with the last revamp air slash does not exist, but now he has fukking revamped windmill that sucks as sheet xD
Arnau De Castro Sistach
qq my air slash
I don't know if RF is just too strong, but I'm a PvE guy, and I've never done PvP before, but recently I decided to make a RF, and he just does insane amounts of damage. Like, I have under level gear but I'm always getting MVP because of how much damage I do, and in PvP, I got to A rank around level 30-40. So idk if it's a RF thingy of something else spooky is going on...
qq how come your rf seems so much faster than mine and my rf has a little more attack speed than yours
also on the lvl 45 passives did you do the exploding nasod hand or the other i did the exploding and love it
Tried both, went with Burning hand. Exploding hand is inferior for a few reasons but has its pros.
Pros:
Pretty nice damage even for RNG passive. If it keeps procing can result in crazy damage fist combos.
Doesn't change fists to magical, so meshes VERY well with armor break.
Pretty effect that looks even prettier after revamp.
Cons:
Changes fists hitstun to its own hitstun, which is VERY low. People can disrupt xx>xx combos if they're fast enough.
The hitstun it gives also ruins x-drops and the launches before them, hence why I HATE it.
Requires armor break to be on opponent to outdamage Burning Hand instead.
You COULD actually go with neither, if you want to abuse armor break well and keep xdrops viable.
Still debating what I'm going to chose after RF revamp. Seeing as our BnB combo might actually become xx>xx...welp atleast Im running Wind shenanigans I won't have to worry about KD.
XD honestly I tried weapon crash but I plan to switch on the 1st of the month but yeah I still love exploding hand also I'm tanking my RF so I kind of try at least 1 300 cost don't ask y XD I like to risk a loss sometimes but ring of fury is hot on RF so it allows me to start combos when necessary
Problem being that RF doesn't have much over 150mp to tank for effectively. WC is pretty weak after multiple nerfs, VJ is meh for damage. GS and Nuke...lol instant mp breaks. Awakened + noted arch enemy is still pretty damn good with damage now, so I guess there's that.
Well you can play which ever way you enjoy most.
As a person who has just started on a Raven and is currently trying to decide what class to go as, how would you say that RF is? I have been leaning more towards using RF and from what i can see it completely kicks butt in PVP. From your experiences, how would someone who is relatively new to using Raven go with a RF and it's prior job class?
Lets uhh adress something. RF's strength in pvp is high, probably the highest of the Ravens currently minus special actives. VC still basically controls that, with RF's awakened skill noted Arch Enemy being a great contender.
Now as you put it "as a person who has jsut started Raven" you'd love RF. You'd love his power, and his newly revamped XX combos being easy and stronk,
But then we get to the annoying part. It's been troubling high tier RFs for a little while.
They've basically made RF too easy in some cases and removed a fair bit of his advanced techniques an combos. While they are still there, you won't get the feeling of reward playing him as say... Blade Master.
Granted like I said, this will only really occur to you once you've got the character down pat and are a good player and you'll notice that he doesnt have nearly as much leeway as the other ravens for advanced play.
He's by all means a berserker and rush in with super armor frames type character now. He'll still retain his base raven swift movements and cancels, but ...
Yeah thats about it. I still enjoy him, but when I hop on my BM and I can just whip out multiple advanced combos while RF has like ...1 maybe 2?
All up to you whether you enjoy advanced/skilled play or just want to win and beat down the opponent.
I'll eventually have some S3 pvp up with RF and you'll be able to see his bread and butter combos(easyness) and his few remaining advanced combos.
Holy mother of god this was a long response and i greatly appreciate it too! Seeing as i still am not very good at PvP (my main character is level 50 Grand Archer in rank A) i think that i will stick with RF for the time being.
Thankyou once again and I am looking forward to seeing your S3 PvP with RF. Keep up the good work man!
UrMenace Ah don't worry about it, only took me like 2-3 minutes to type up anyway. I dont mind having discussions.
Also WOO a GA, YOU should keep up the good work lol!
MilkyPoint l Haha, thanks man, and just out of curiosity, are you a big fan of GA or are they just very hard to use in PvP? From what i know, they are one of the hardest PvP classes in the game.
UrMenace I love GA, most people don't know this but my Rena was originally GA lool. And i've become interested in her again basically after she had most of her problems solved and is now a viable 1v1 class.
Also don't let others fool you with a class not being high tier being hard to play.
ALL the Renas are easy to play.
It's just GA is the least viable for 1v1, she's still a monster in the catching department once she gets orbs. She can litter the entire screen with orb stunning arrows, it's fun as hell lool.
How long did it take you to get 5/5 5-x set? And could you show me your skill tree?
Too long D:
But that's because I'm lazy. If you run secrets every day on hell it should only take about a month from scratch. MUCH LESS if you buy the elite set to save you time.
waa.ai/4TEh
Hey milky point why do you have fast mo regeneration? How did u do that? I want to also have that in my elsword :D
MP regeneration? Probably core refund from when my awakening runs out. Can give up to 100mp back including HP.
But elsword can far surpass that with vitality mode, always aim for it.
Im actually new to elsword. So i dont really understand what you just said xD
I assumed MP regeneration from random moments in the game, not when hitting things.
So I explained that when Raven awakens he gets a nasod core that follows him. It can be used to attack with but when your awakening runs out, depending on how large the core was, you gain hp/mp. Eve also has the same system.
I'm totally subbing you, so I can watch good pointers for RF tactics against all those classes. @ w @ Like for VC spamming that Flame Sword (Noted), it annoyed me the most. :c Well I'll learn from you from your videos! :D
Thanks a bunch, I'll keep uploading videos expect some more soon.
And yeah noted flame sword can be stored so well...it's kinda ridiculous.
Mix it up with such an unpredictable class/skilled pilot, you're in for trouble lol.
yo i enjoyed this video x) i like your gameplay !
tho ... can you name your bgms *^* you have some really good bmgs there
So how are you holding up with the recent Reckless Fist revamp?
EVERYONE IS DYING.
Seriously the power is stupid lolol, losing >>^zxx launch sucks but he's the same for the most part and is still pretty fun. >>^zx seems to have lost a bit of it's anti-air properties, so it's not viable as a mid air catch anymore. Only good at low altitude to ensure both hits in, the spikes are a joke but fun to mess around with.
xx>xx~ combo is...nice as fk and at anypoint in the middle of that combo you can hold down and go right into the spike uppercut, so thats nice.
But yeah, Ill get some S3 RF up soon.
ok. that super armor combo is gonna be pretty handy in team battles. *victim of such
Nice gameplay,another good Rf in NA ^^
thanks, >implying im good
Wish there were more, it's mostly just BMs lol.
Can you share your skill build and your Sockets?
Build: waa.ai/4TEh
AE vs X-crash is preference. It's also a hybrid pvp/pve build.
n' my stats at the time of recording are in the description, future videos will have my updated stats.
What was the BGM for the second match also ur a good Rf I learned a lot from watching u :D
BGM vs the 1st RF was Accel World OST - Ending 1
Unfinished - Kotoko
And thanks hope you enjoy RF.
What music for 8:00? Please :(
Another good RF, you inspire me(I main RF)
Thanks homie, keep up the good fight.
RFlyfe.
Pls Someone Tell me the bgm at the beginnt !
Lol , minut 19:21 , for what your hp and mana up? i need this item *^*
and in minut 19:18 whatare this red splasion?
That'd be the glitter 5x set doing its work.
the one in minute 19:21 is from the core. raven-only shet
thx ^^
Core refunds hp/mp when it goes away when raven's awakening ends, depending on how big it is when it leaves. 5x set combined with that and good awk charge can make you very survivable.
Ok , my next set fpr my raven is alckemist , so op *^*
i might take some pointers from future skill builds on my RF im grinding i have to get a ring of fury and b-slot then buy the new costume cruise set that came out.XD gonna look fine
I have RF .. you are so good can you tell me what i have to stack for my rf i mean what is the best critical, attack speed or adittional damage ?
Get exploding nasod hand passive, then you don't need to socket any crit. Stack pure add while ofc getting the minimum for pvp, 20% speeds and 30%+ red.
HP is fine as long as you're around 190k+
This is level 70 cap ofc.
MilkyPoint l Mine hp is about 210k :d um i want to ask is cannon blade good for pvp because i use it and it has very good damage but it fails a lot sometimes
Yeah it's actually damn good burst, it just need good positioning.
I haven't used it in years but I'm pretty sure it's still the same, get the skill note and then use a >>x. Wait a second for them to flinch back then use cannon blade for maximum hits, does insane damage.
MilkyPoint l Thanks man i was going to use nuclear but 300 mp pff.. its not easy to get and it is easy to mana break so i will use cannon blade :D Do you think wind is better than water attribute and why ?
I use wind simply because I love hard hitting combos, especially with my RF's 100% crit XX~ combos.
I'd say the best attribute for RF in pvp would be Water. Ive tried fire III on him in s1-2 pre st revamp, it didn't work well. I plan to try it again and see how well it goes.
As a person that has mained RF, I can't 'combo/spam attack' for sht. I just run around like an idiot hoping to get kills.
lolol what ever works man, though if you truly want to get better it's just a mind set.
If you WANT to get better, truly want it, you will.
Gonna be alot of putting yourself down at first lol.
BGM of 1st match? Great vid btw xD
Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World: Climb it Hastily(kirby's bgm pack)
And thanks!
In case some of u don't know, he reason he ran into the fire on purpose tto get mp when he battled the VC.
Great tactic, can easily get 200mp/awk bead with only around 5% hp loss.
MilkyPoint l Yea, I've used it a few times to get mana for comet crasher and it really helps
what a amazing move catching...your RF is pretty strong and good dmg yo...how can you make that dmg...i know people on SSS Rank have a hight red dmg so for you that can deal a dmg like that is pretty wow i guess :D...Nice job !!
A dream: less step, more catches
You must be new to raven. You were probably that 1 dislike.
Congrats bud.
No, not me, i liked indeed. But u can do things like V step, but i din't see one, just one fast fall to catch. I believe you do know do this.
s. luq
Ah lol my bad. Also vstep is actually pretty useless on melee chars, it's not even a good mind game once you hit high tiers. If you watch my old LK videos from over a year ago you'd see how much I vstepped constantly lol.
That being said, you're right I need to step more. NEEDS MORE STEPS.
-rewatches krab's stepping guide-
Watching this video let me remember my lost account lol
Hi i am the same guy Safwan but from other profile xD i wanna ask what is the name of your avatar set
In this video it's 3pc christmas tuxedo and 2pc groom set and a random hair that I love. Gives a good amount of stats in general like awk/speeds and +50 resist to all attributes.
MilkyPoint l can you tell me good 200 mp skill for arena ?
For RF? None of them, they used to be the scariest thing about him but no longer is that the case.
It's all about limit crusher/charged bolt with awakened noted archenemies thrown in.
MilkyPoint l i think axe crash is better than arch and i think charged bolt is useless
I see.
Well then, I think you're crazy lolol.
8:12 BGM? owo
CROW'SCLAW - Fallen Angel
Gr8 band I might add.
THANKS MAN!!!!!!!!11!
MilkyPoint l dafuq D:
I do not find
send me link pls?!
Edan Yoshiro It's from their album Blackened Fangs and Bloody Claws.
Here's their discography. You can sometimes get albums off this site as well.
www.crowsclaw.info/disco.php
Thanks bro ^^
Nice gameplay!
Thanks AKARIIIIN~
Is it Normal with people in NA to play Ravens.
I think they're quite annoying
Well he overtook elboy as the most popular character in NA at one point.
Now? ... idk.
You should feel glad to get a raven in pvp compared to some other classes lool.
actually i kinda like the second rf
cuz he's trying to get sweg :$
>> ^ x with hell dive + x crash look so sweg tho
Lol it does but the KD is huge and the entire thing feeds massive MP.
Hes got some crazy red going on there though... lol.
Barley any1knows the secret that is platform >>vxx, gr8 random invisible hitbox launch into catches.
yes indeed it is not really effective
but you know man
maybe he's just trying to look cool (or maybe he is'nt )
i mean , some ppl *after elzero debut
Was doing hinpopo after blackhole
or put some random step ater heavy hitstun
pointless it is ? yes it does
high risk to fail , not platform friendly
it's just because of #swag
well you do have point , most of good raven player was on BM
rare to see sweg rf or sweg vc tho
Lf> Your bgm pack, unless it's not a bgm pack and is just edited in o:
Sorry most are my own songs I threw in there and not part of a BGM pack.
Ill upload a video if I ever do finish my bgm pack, but...it's gonna be almost all Blazblue OST lmao.
S3 i feel like my core is not ignoring def anymore T.T...or meybe it's true aaaaaa
everyone say arch enemy is better
everyone have x-crash
seriously people how this thing works?
I just saw a video of a RF in KR (PvP S3), he just had a weapon +11 and do XX>XX active, XX>XX. I was like... Why do you even play PvP? Hahahaha.
Why is it that only level 70s and Koreans know how to PvP properly?
"PvP properly"
***** Well NA players are really bad. Not all of them, but most of them.
Charactors using Koreans...?
SSS ranks spend most of the time jumping and trying to catch the opponent. XD
I still had no idea why reckless fist is in medium difficulty based on elwiki.. He is totally hard to beat.. I mean i fight many blademaster and veteran commander well because people start to abandoning reckless fist.. But when i found one.. Iit's like wow
Rifki Fadillah Ignore those ratings, KOG knows nothing.
Check out the NA forums for more help/detailed insight on classes. Though even we have our faults.
MilkyPoint l i will check it. Thanks dude..
Either way it doesn't matter. KoG literally knows nothing about their own characters, I can assure you basically all those ratings are wrong. Hell even their stat ratings are wrong.
Rifki Fadillah that's user difficulty not difficulty fighting against them lmao
5:45 music plz ? :c
Demetori - View of the River Styx
gr8 band btw
MilkyPoint l thanks guys ! :3
wow god strong player
무기에 SD? 뭐지?
24:25 nice pvp lol
lol ignore that, lets just say it pretty much went the same was as when I got him first time around.
GG
As a beginner I chose the absolute worst class to pick...raven blade master. Ugh now I'm level 65, rank b and I'm so terrible at this game. I heard that elsword's lord knight class is great for beginners though...
Ignore Me
Mmm.. Both Blade Master and Lord Knight arent great class for beginners because they demand so much of you to be able to fully optimize and play them at their best compared to other classes.
Though imo, you're doing a great thing. I wish for everyone to pick up and play BM or LK. I feel it'd give everyone a good feel for the way pvp works and build them up nicely simply BECAUSE those classes demand things of you to play well.
MilkyPoint l yeah I realized this fact when I got to sword taker. It took me 2 days to figure out how to do the zzz^zx combo, but that combo only loops in pve, in pvp it knocks them down so that's a bust. I still haven't even figured out how to do a Quickstep and I don't even know what an x drop is. I've been able to spam a combo I taught myself but it gives my opponent WAY to much mp.
Actually zzz^zx is a viable combo in pvp and lowers the knock down value through an xdrop. Literally just look for blade master play on youtube and try to emulate them in some way.
Oh and an xdrop is basically any input thats ^x usually part of an advanced combo which has benefits of higher damage and lowering KD.
MilkyPoint l really? Whenever I do that combo in pvp they get knocked down, maybe I'm just doing it wrong? Also thanks for the help!
***** ...and why do I have to know?
Yeah I love how every single Raven in PvP just ^ Z to cath the oponent, is like if there arent any other way to star a combo, also if you dont move they look ridiculus just jumping and attacking and they are all angry like "hey you evader yet you dont let me catch you" hahaha
Welcome to Raven pvp.
Like the Renas ^^ X its the same thing.
Eh for a GA I guess. I rarely ever use ^^x on my WS. Then again I should probably use it more, it's rly good.
Hey ur really good, it would be a big help if u could teach me some combos (beginner RF rank A)
Ign Kaizetsu
와 정말 외국사람들은 매너도 좋아 아이템은
되도록 절대안먹을라하고 먹으면 풀릴때까지
기다리고 소인일땐 일부러 마나쓰네;; 진짜
우리나라도 저런매너 배우면 좋겟다.....
Haha yes, at high ranks we usually have good item manners.
와..답답하네 일부러 저러는건가...ㅡㅡ
Pros don't MB
you mean noobs dont mb and die the noob they are
you mean noobs dont mb and die the noob they are
+Kotonoha Katsura yes but usually SSS players don't mana break
I first though you were joking around when you posted this comment months ago.
But now I see you're the joke.
Only a garbage player wouldn't mana break. Because ANY slightly good player will know how to infinite and maximize their damage and combos.
Go ahead, don't mana break me. You'll be dead and not get a chance to even fight back, that is a foolish mentality.
Noobs
I've notice that every video that showcases RF pvp, it's always against a BM. Idk why, though.
1 BM...
The video has more than 1 fight you know lool.
And it's only because I got Asperse that day, hes a darn gud bm so it was good footage.
lol, I know there is more that one match, I was browsing through and found that three executive video showcasing rf pvp has a bm. Well, I'm just saiyan, don't mind me.
Ah das cus raven vs raven is always nice to watch if they're skilled. it's like they're dancing.
did i say executive? I meant consecutive. lol. And I second your statement, good sir. I love to watch highly intense matches, which he's so close to killing and vice versa.