That moment where Kelso's foot hits and the ground, the camera pans up to his face, and you see that the weight of his decision hasn't lifted is one of my favorite moments of the series. It really shows that while Kelso is sometimes cold with his decisions, he's still a human being.
@@jsbrads1 I would imagine that is a pretty necessary skill for doctors to have. Dr. Cox even tells JD something similar in an earlier episode. But no matter how good you are at moving on, any human being is going to have things that stick with them. The reason Kelso seems so heartless to the other characters is because it appears that nothing ever bothers him. Even essentially giving someone a death sentence. But I love this moment because it shows that he isn't a heartless monster. He's a human being. It shows that his "it's not my job to care" comment was a facade. It may be a true statement, his decision may end up helping far more people in the long run, and he may have all the justification in the world for what he did ... but he still can't help but care. It really gives his character a little extra depth.
So there was a difference in that moment, versus earlier in the episode after a bunch of kids died from a viral outbreak and he left the grounds as chipper as ever. The kids, there was nothing to be done, it was just a tragic event. That ending shot, though... Kelso made the decision that ultimately cost a man his life. Granted, another was saved for it, and the donation the hospital received let them expand care for many others, so it was a choice that served a greater good. But it was still a choice. A sacrifice of a living person. Whatever the result, that would weigh on anyone with even a sliver of a conscience.
God I loved when they started humanising Kelso. He's got the hardest job in the hospital, bar none. And when they started showing us a bit more of what goes on behind his mask you realise how much weight is on his shoulders the entire time. Ken Jennings gave us an absolute master class in acting. It really comes home in season 8 when Cox becomes chief of medicine and J.D. effectively moves into Cox's old role; and he turns to Kelso for help. Paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact lines: K: "Every time he came in to ask for something I'd just say 'no', if he didn't take 'no' for an answer and fought for it I knew it was important, and that's what you have to do now." J.D.: "Will he at least respect me for it?" K: "No, he's going to hate you for it."
I'm always impressed with how well the writers of this show managed to combine comedy with tragedy, and to present ethical dilemmas in a way most viewers can understand, feel and perhaps even relate to on different levels. Loved your wonderful reaction with insightful comments - as usual 😊
13:55 in a later episode Kelso meets a soldier comes into the hospital and he talks about his SGT and Kelso thinks the soldier loved the man. Then he learn the soldier hated his guts and he overworked, insulted and demeaned all his soldiers, but the soldier then states that maybe that's what a leader is at times uniting his troops through hatred of a common enemy
As the show goes on, Kelso (while by no means a saint) is reviled to be product of a system that forces someone to be the one who makes cold hearted decisions to keep the hospital running.
Its not explicitly stated but Sacred Heart is supposed to be an innercity public hospital, so the whole make the budget bounce - treat'em and street'em attitude of Bob was very much the popularised raison d'etre of hospital admins struggling with low budgets and increasing need for beds. Bob Kelso represents a "good man" traped in a job he hates, doing something to enable people he knows hates him, to do the things he know needs doing. The series later gives us reasons for hating Bob as a person (his treatment of Enid and his constant philandering for eg.) Also Elliot isnt working at primary doctors shes working at a emergent care clinic in the inner city with even less funding and resources than Sacred Heart. While those doctors do amazing work it cant be easy doing with no money and less support. Great Review through you got yourself a new subscriber here.
Oh definitely! Completely agreed. Having worked in an inner city hospital, it can be soul crushing when you just don’t have enough resources to help everyone. 😔 Thank you so much for the support! ❤️🙏
That was the impression I had as well, that Sacred Heart was not a 'good' hospital. It was more in the vein of St Elsewhere, an underfunded, dumping ground.
Every time I watch one of these “doctor reacts to medical show” videos and nurses come up the doctor always says that you should always respect the nurses
I think it's less about clinics in general, but free clinics in specific. which are super underfunded and often times in more impoverished areas that need them the most. so it makes sense that the doctors her like elliot feel rewarded to provide a service for ppl who need it, but stressed and heart broken by not having enough medical supplies and funding, or even enough staff. And feel unsafe because free clinics can be attacked by ppl in a search for drugs or just because the general area they are located can have a higher crime rate.
There's an old saying in the military: A sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant at rest I've got a feeling that it applies just as much to nurses and doctors respectively
Definitely some serious truth to that! Especially in residency - oh boy, did we defer a LOT to the super knowledgable and amazing nurses that RAN the floors! ❤️ (The nurses in my clinic are AMAZING too, for the record ❤️ They keep this place RUNNING!!)
That was fun, loved the video. Scrubs is one of my favorite shows and I love seeing actual doctors give their opinions on it. That ending scene with kelso hits so hard.
I volunteered as a phlebotomist at a small free clinic. Our patients lived below the poverty level. Each person helping treat the patients volunteered their time there. The general medicine stuff of the clinic is only twice a week, with some specialty stuff on other days. It isn't the biggest clinic and not everyone can get treated in the window of two days. As part of the lab, I drew blood and also performed basic tests that could be done in house. Nothing too elaborate, just urine tests and pregnancy tests at most. Every sample we collected needed to be done at a more equipped laboratory of a much bigger hospital system that thankfully was just down the main road. Clinics get a lot of flack, especially inner-city clinics, but without them, the patients who use them go to the Emergency Department of a local hospital for basic care, which uses more resources on them over patients that need quick treatment to stabilize their condition and get them admitted into the main hospital.
It's the banality of evil. Relevant quote from a book series I love called Discworld: "It was much better to imagine men in some smokey room somewhere, made mad and cynical by privilege and power, plotting over brandy. You had to cling to this sort of image, because if you didn't then you might have to face the fact that bad things happened because ordinary people, the kind who brushed the dog and told the children bed time stories, were capable of then going out and doing horrible things to other ordinary people. It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, then what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things. "
it always impresses me how a show like scrubs that could just be another happy-go-lucky show they managed to sprinkle in these moments that make you realise that these are people, what we see is not all that they are. bob kelso in the beginning is presented like this cartoonish villain because that is for one the front he presents for his staff to unite against and also we see the show mostly from JD´s pov. and let´s face it he´s not a reliable narrator. episode by episode and scene by scene, the more we see of kelso the more we realise he DOES care and actively tries to give the most amount of patients the best care possible, sometimes he has to "sacrifice" someone to help more people. i also enjoy the scene where kelso breaks down the door to his patients room, because said patient refused his care thinking her phone can give her all the answers she needs. he comes in proofs to her that "dr. internet" can not replace a real doctor and gives a speech about "nothing in life worth having is easy"
Ken Jenkins did a great job as Dr. Kelso. Leading up to this episode there are little instances where you see Dr. Kelso's humanity poke out from his gruff facade. Here you get to see the choices he has to make and how heavily some of those weigh upon him. One of my favorite episodes. Go clinic docs. 😁
I love the times we get to see Dr Kelso as more than just the callous, money obsessed boss. The system may suck, but somebody has to make sure the hospital is running as best it can within that system.
Couple things: I don't believe it ever comes out and says it directly, but scrubs is based in Detroit and drops a lot of hints and such along the way. I don't think they were trying to portray all clinic medicine as a whole certain way. They were trying to portray Elliot falling on tough times and decided to make her a doctor at a free clinic in the inner city. Later in the series she decides being a hospital doctor isn't for her and ends up in private practice and actually achieves a better work/life balance and a higher salary with no indication that she has to deal with these kinds of things. Second, this is one of my absolute favorite episodes of scrubs. It hits so hard when Bob Kelso steps off that bottom stair into the parking lot. It was a major step in humanizing him as a character, as he had previously been portrayed as almost cartoonishly evil.
Scrubs is in California, the cars have CA plates, Ted references California State law repeatedly, they drive north to Washington at one point. Bill Lawrence said at some point that it's in a fictional California city called "San DiFrangeles" Cox wears a red wings jersey due to JCMs friendship with Chris Chelios
Another sign that I caught in watching this was just how quickly Kelso runs away from the baggage of his decision. He's in, he's out, he brushes off Cox and bails. He was in a situation that had no good answer and staying to argue just would've dragged that out. Excellent bit of detail in the writing there.
Sometimes, being a leader means making the decisions others can't or won't. The proverbial sin eaters if you will; making the decisions others won't because they can bare it.
Well done and great advice about boundaries around work. It's good to care on the job and it's vital to have space for yourself and family and friends off the job.
Thank you so much! It’s definitely important to have that delineation. I still bring stuff home with me. I still think about my patients when I’m not working. But I also try and separate myself from especially the really bad and scary stuff because it will just completely cripple you if you carry ALL of it with you ALL the time. For example, for one person, a breast cancer diagnosis is incredibly scary and a huge journey and REALLY BIG, right? Okay, now think about your other patient with the seriously uncontrolled diabetes on the verge of diabetic ketoacidosis, the patient with serious mental health illness who told you that s/he is suicidal and you’ve done everything you can short of going to their house to help keep them safe, another patient with a lung mass that you’re working up for cancer, and the list goes on and on. It’s a lot to keep on your mind all of the time. I hold space for every person, but then I disconnect. I know they know that I always want only what’s best for them and will Always do everything I can to help them, even if not everyone is on my mind 100% of the time. ❤️
The older ive gotten the more ive enjoyed dr cox and dr kelsos stories. Not that i have the careers they have, but they experience a lot more of the nuance of life while jd, turk, elliot, and carla are more of the life basics
I've been enjoying your videos a lot, lately. You also have some of the biggest and coolest eyes. EDIT: Another great episode that is about Bob Kelso caring is "His Story IV", where it's an episode largely from his perspective.
@@JessTheMD You're welcome. I mean, you've done about...7 Scrubs review videos, only about 175 left to go! :) I look forward to your next one. You should also see the thing that is on my leg right now. "Yikes" is a good response.
I absolutely agree with you about leaving work at work. I'm definitely not a doctor (and the world is thankful for that fact), but, my job can definitely be really stressful some days, and when I first started it was eating me alive. The more responsibility I was given, the more the more it weighed on me. I didn't know if I'd be able to keep it up. But, I knew I didn't want to go back to my previous job, so I had to find a way to make it work. The way it worked then, and even now, 7 years later, is that as soon as I'm out the door, I'm done. Work Brandon stays behind and I don't think about him or the job until the next shift. It's like a literal switch flips in my head. Because I couldn't keep carrying that with me in my daily life.
Love the video! You should do one on S7 E9 (My Dumb Luck), where Kelso delves into the history of his career. He specifically talks about realizing along the way that he would have to make difficult decisions that people would hate him for, and it was a very lonely realization when that happened. It's another great episode that shows you how Kelso isn't actually such a bad person, despite his imperfections. Also, I can't seem to find any other "doctor reacts" videos on TH-cam for that episode, so you could be the first!
I just made my first primary care appt since I was a child yesterday so watching this video today was timely! Thanks for all you do and for theese reactions, they are so fun!
Not American so can't be sure but Elliot's breakdown about hating that job I saw as less a critique of clinics in general and more a combination of the struggle between being in a job that provides so much reward (being able to find how she helps people, and how much by so easily) and at the same time so much exposure to the worst of the systems failings and the worst of people (a stabbing in the car park of the clinic) as well as that Elliott can't do what Kelso does and regulate her reaction to what she is experiencing?
You make an excellent point! I absolutely love hearing other people’s interpretation of these sorts of situations too. Thank you so much for that 😊 Elliot definitely cares, a lot. I can see how that would make this situation harder for her (emotionally) ❤️
I think it's less about clinics in general, but free clinics in specific. which are super underfunded and often times in more impoverished areas that need them the most. so it makes sense that the doctors her like elliot feel rewarded to provide a service for ppl who need it, but stressed and heart broken by not having enough medical supplies and funding, or even enough staff. And feel unsafe because free clinics can be attacked by ppl in a search for drugs or just because the general area they are located can have a higher crime rate.
There is an episode where the hospital gets an, I think ex-army patient, and the rest of the staff is debating if the war on terror is right or wrong, to the point that its effecting their work. The soldier tells Kelso about his drill instructor and how everyone hated him. But sometimes hate can be a unifying force. To me, that is Dr. Bob Kelso. An old man that has seen too much but will do what he must to get the job done.
I'm glad you watched this episode because I've seen you defend kelso in so many episodes and this is the most human you ever see him if only for a second
This show really hits home the important message that considerations of profit margins and economical decision making should have no place in the field of medicine, ever, in any country on this planet.
Kelso acts like a cold, hard, callous asshole to give the hospital staff a common enemy to hate. If they are all bonding over their shared hatred of Kelso, they won't bicker, argue and fight with each other, and consequently the hospital will function a lot more smoothly. Nothing unites people together more strongly than a common enemy. So when you truly think about it, Bob Kelso has a very, VERY unenviable job.
@@renababe1 The hospital is a stressful, often depressing, and highly competitive place full of people with Type-A personalities. Fighting, bickering and one-upmanship amongst doctors, nurses and lab techs is inevitable. It's Kelso's responsibility as the Big Chief to make sure things don't fall apart. He does what he has to do.
So, the whole Kelso thing where he sets foot on the ground and smiles. I don't think it was him separating himself from the hospital I think it's more of a "TV show moment." It's the idea that they want to set up a moment either in the episode itself or in a future episode to show Kelso has a human side. Every show or movie tends to have a villain but, when it comes to media if you really want to write a good story and have memorable characters you have to give them arcs and moments where they can show that they are human like the rest of us. Not to say what you said wasn't correct, we as humans can't spend our lives dragging negative emotional thoughts with us forever without something bad happening to us but, I just feel like they wrote that in to give Kelso a more, "human villain" feel rather than a comic book villain feel.
i think, as nurse, that different kinds of people are needed in medicine. Psychologists that are very emtpahtic do great work because they connect with patients. And there is the dead inside no emotion ones that work just as good because they can stay objective and professional no matter what. Some people take patients deaths to heart and many of those quit sooner or later unable to shoulder the burden. and then there is those like me who genuinely dont feel anything about it. Persons dead, worrying and being sad doesnt bring them back, on to a person i still can help, and being at full strength when approaching Doesnt mean you shouldnt think on mistakes made, obviously you need to improve, but feeling bad about it doesnt help anyone. I think Kelso would be even more effective at his job if he genuinely didnt care and was objective - 2 patients need a spot in the study. If Patient Rich dies, many people will not be receiving help. If Patient poor dies, that will be the only victim. So obviously treating patient rich preferntially is the right call that i hope anyone with the power to decide would do. And if you feel bad about not being able to help patient poor - its not your fault the study is limited in capacity. And you help many many more people by getting the rich patient in there. And im pretty sure from what weve seen, patient poor in this case would have agreed and made the same descission because he had a very good heart. Reality is, death is a certainty, nature is cruel and the vast majority of the universe will instantly kill you. Life aint fair and all we can do is try to minimise the horror that we all face
I love it that shows that sometimes the asshole in charge making shitty decisions is actually doing the hardest job possible, making the best of it and carries a weight they will never understand.
I went to an all night urgent care. The doctor on duty told me I had strep throat. Went to my doctor the next day. She told me I had mono and also there's no reason a doctor should make such a horrible misdiagnosis. The two look very different. He also gave me antibiotics which you aren't supposed to have when you get mono.
List of episodes to watch: S1 E4: My old lady S3 E1: My Own American Girl S4 E17: My Life In Four Cameras S5 E12: My Cabbage S7 E11: My Princess S8 E2: My Last Words
Well, Bob Kelso is that Character making decisions with consequences no one else would be able to deal with, because they're so freakin tough! That's real strenght
Two thoughts I haven't seen mentioned so far. 1) When Kelso says it's not his job to care, he's pushing back on emotional manipulation. Cox is either saying Kelso needs to be sad for each and every patient that can't be helped, or at least the ones Cox also likes. But being perpetually bothered by patients you can't save will not make you a better doctor. If Cox is only arguing on behalf of his patients, then he's being a hypocrite because he's just as callous towards the patients that made it into the trial. If Kelso isn't emotionally invested in which patient makes it into the trial, then he's got a simpler calculus on the benefits of including the richer patient. 2) It's hard to convey multilayered feelings through a visual medium. Kelso can always be conflicted between caring about the patients and not taking that misery home with him. Depending on the day those feelings will be at different levels, and competing for his attention against a bunch of other priorities. But it's hard to visualize that into a scene without adding excessive exposition that ruins the entertainment value. It's easier to generalize that into "how people think he feels" and "how he actually feels."
Kelso is one of the best characters in Scrubs There was the episode where his old friend, played by Dick van Dyke, had to be let go. He was angry that JD forced this but he also respected JD's stance
So many episodes are depressing. I see you’ve done some of the most so. Personally, I like My Fallen Idol. It’s right after My Lunch, and has a really valuable perspective on hardship.
It’s not a question of what Americans want; 63% of adults are in favor. It’s that the wealthy, powerful vested interests (insurance and pharmaceuticals, particularly) don’t want government oversight and cost controls and central guaranteed coverage. Americans would be happy not to have to pay so much for the aggravation of insurance denials and bankruptcy.
In the words of Spock "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." But at the same time the idea that poor people don't deserve to live, I hate that out our health system. I wish we had a health system like Canada or the UK that actually cared about if everybody lived or died, not just the rich. Being somebody who is not rich, it is offensive to me to know that people who can dole out millions will always be the ones treated like people first.
I'm not certain if this is the same in every country, but I can definitely state that the do in Western Australia. I was enrolled in a BPsych degree and was surprised to find the nursing students from another campus were bused in for some of the first year units for the psychology degree. I'm not certain how many units from the degree were a part of the program, but it was good to know they were given some training and time ti develop their coping and people skills before being sent into the field.
That’s awesome!! I think nursing students generally do take some sort of psych classes. I think my SIL did with her nursing program at least! Though I don’t know if that extends to all programs as a requirement. It certainly is helpful though! 😊
@@JessTheMD I in general like Scrubs because it's not just your typical medical drama. I like that, while it may not be the most accurate show in the world, it's trying to drive a message across most of the time. there is value in watching it. It makes you think a little bit.
What this episode shows, & in later seasons reveals, is that even though Kelso comes off as a cold hearted bastard in the eyes of the doctors & nurses at the hospital. He’s been out in this position where he has to think of the greater good instead of treating every individual on a daily basis. You can see how the decisions he has to make has worn him down to where he treats Ted like crap at times, why Cox hates him so much & why he ended up at the clinic. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to be this person but it’s because of the way the system has been designed, he has no choice but to become this person. It’s why I love his character even more when he’s no longer in charge, he becomes a mentor & at times sympathetic ear to the rest of the characters on the show because he’s been thru hell & he wants to make sure they don’t become miserable like he was.
I totally agree ❤️ Kelso is not a bad person - he definitely has to make some really hard (and sometimes bad) decisions. It'll toughen a person and make them crazy grumpy. You're right - it's awesome to see him outside of that role, once he's retired, because you can see the good person he actually is ❤️
I try to keep a separation between the me at work and the me who's not at work. On my days off, I often wear my bathrobe, pjs, and slippers everywhere. I don't want my at work to resemble my not at work. So I do things to differentiate between the two. I am friendly and empathize with my coworkers but I don't see them as family or hang out with them at work or not at work. I don't talk about my job when I'm not at work and at work, I don't talk much about my family. I spend so much time on the road and so little time with family, that I don't want work encroaching on my family life. That's how I stay sane in this mad, mad, mad world.
A good leader really has to be sure to not reflect the highs and lows of the job, especially in the medical field. Sure, it's amazing to celebrate a win, but going up that high will cause you to do the opposite for a loss. And the lower you go, the harder it is to come back to level. Idk. Just purposefully temper the highs, and I believe the lows temper themselves.
I've never learned to leave it at home I remember and rethink every patient that past and healed when I'm laughing with friends I remember the mother's scream seeing her child being pronounced dead family crying thinking they had time to say good bye or when something sad happening I remember how some people walked out against all odds I never learned how to separate work from my daily life every lost soul I felt a piece of mine left. But I find it way more important me needing to be there to take care of my own soul
It's a wee bit scary how TH-cam figures out that I'd be interested in this video & enjoy it enough to subscribe, because I want to see more (which I want to say up front in case the good doctor might see this & be hurt, which would make me sad because honestly, the first thing I did after watching this was to look up where Dr. Jess practices. Full disclosure, the 2nd thing I did was to check if she's single (she's not; mozel tov, Mr. Dr. Jess!). So, considering that I view a train ride to upper Manhattan as "too far," I think it's safe to say that a plane trip to Texas is not going to happen. But hey, even if I didn't find a smart, caring new MD to Dr. House me (I'm hoping Dr.J has some reviews of House,!) I found someone to watch, even if not so long ago I might have mocked and skewered the very idea of watching someone watching someone. But she's smart and charming, so I'm in! So, that said, I checked to see if anyone else shared my opinion that Elliot wasn't a family doctor, like Dr. Jess, but was working at a free clinic. And I am sure there are some free clinics in the US that are amazing. And very little in Scrubs is ever meant seriously, but is always at least exaggerated if not completely absurd. I think Elliot's clinic work was merely exaggerated. I don't think it was meant as satire as much as it was a cheap joke. Being a lawyer and former public defender, I see that whole subplot as being very much like the trope, so common in both sitcoms and dramas, of the free lawyer. The idea is the same in both: you get what you pay for. And I know that if were lucky enough to get me, you got legal representation that was literally unparalleled. And you got at good to outstanding representation from most of my colleagues, but some of my colleagues could not have cared less about their clients. Some of my colleagues and friends from other offices could not manage the sometimes crushing caseloads, and their clients were shortchanged. And some of my colleagues were simply unqualified. But paying for a lawyer has never made any difference in the quality of the legal representation, and while I am not a doctor, I believe the same is true for medical care. You can get outstanding medical care gratis, à la Elliot, and you can get wretched medical care that you pay a fortune for. But most importantly, Dr. Jess rocks, and I'm keen to watch more.
Haha thank you very much! ❤️ More videos coming soon! I had to take a short break for a major surgery and subsequent recovery, but I'm coming back to TH-cam very soon!
Not sure about the situation where you are, but I think that they are referring to walk in clinics where you arent seeing your "family doctor" and are seeing a new doc. In my experience you wait 3h to get 10min to explain 1 medical problem. Ive often been barely looked over and given sone pain meds.
This is the problem with our healthcare system 😔 I’m so sorry that this is how you, and many, have experienced healthcare. I am in a bit more of an isolated system where people actually do get in to see their own family doctor (ie me) and we get 30-60 min per visit (depending on the visit type). This is the way all of healthcare should be and it makes me so sad that it’s not. I’d like to help change that in any way I can ❤️🙏
I agree in that the person who needs to make the very difficult calls rarely gets the luxury of allowing those who witness the affects their decisions have, to see how they are affected. Sometimes it's better to look like a jerk and get the job done, than to create uncertainty and gain sympathy. It's easy to judge when you do not know everything that is at stake.
I haven't been to my primary care doctor in something like 7 years. But I do see an oncologist (or get blood drawn for one) every month (CBC, CMP, LDH) and a cholesterol draw every year now because of a med I am on (Jakafi aka ruxolitinib). Cardiac electrophysiologist every 6 months, neurologist once a year, and ophthalmologist once a year. I should probably see my PCP sometime for a regular checkup.
It’s interesting - especially when you have major medical issues, it helps to have a PCP that is looking at your health holistically, and paying attention to all of the issues you have going on and making sure all of your meds work okay together. It’s important to see your specialists and make sure your specialists are communicating with your PCP so that your care is (ideally) holistic 😊 that’s at least how I practice 😉
@@JessTheMDThat makes sense - all of my specialists know each other. They will bump into each other every couple of months when they are in one of the local hospitals as the doctor from their practice who is available for anyone who needs them. So talk to each other about me. I think only one of my two oncologists communicate with the GP
@@JessTheMD at least he has a doctor. I live in Ottawa in Canada and despite the trumpeting of our healthcare system, we have the longest waits in the developed world, a huge shortage of doctors (I am on a list of 8000 people waiting for a doctor) and most clinics here no longer accept new patients. We also pay a fortune for our health care but if you suggest an audit to ensure we are getting our money's worth, you are immediately accused of wanting to dismantle it!
My wife is a family med physician, does a lot of inpatient service work….she has always said that of all the various medical shows out there, this one is the closest to reality
Very nice reaction. And I really like that you acknowledge the really versatile role of Dr. Kelso. Dr. Cox is really ignorant to all the problems Kelso has to deal with and is even - at least in my opinion - judging Kelso from the high horse.
From the way you're describing primary care, it sounds similar to what we'd call a GP (General Practitioner) in the UK - so, diagnosing colds and flu, seeing the early signs of potential cancers, etc....?
Yes, that and other things - preventive health, managing mental health conditions, chronic disease management like diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and quite a bit more 😊
Well they have to shed some light in comedy and make fun of certain things I know you don't like how they are portraying some things 😅 but again it's a comedy show that happens to be one of the most accurate medical shows
Classic utilitarian vs deontologist question. Both are equally misguided without absolute truth. And the entire premise of the show is to highlight the stereotype of every medical field. My wife and many if her colleagues have a very strong love hate relationship with family medicine. Worse is after covid, things are really piling up and they are mostly burnt out and quitting. That IS the clinic medicine stereotype.
I gotta do that walking out of the Prison in the morning after a rough night. There's a reason CO's have a life expectancy of like 58 I think? You have to learn to turn off your work brain in jobs like these.
re - Breaking Bad News To Patients. I think that EVERY hospital should employ a sociopath to be the one to deliver all these 'Bad News' events to patients. Apparently, normal people can find this sort of thing upsetting, but sociopaths don't have these handicaps and can therefore mimic all the tender bedside qualities of a 'normal,' while also remaining immune to those parts of the job that eats away at 'normals.' So, all of the jobs that a 'normal' would describe as 'soul shattering,' or such, would be given to the resident sociopath who would have no such problems performing in this role. edit - they should make sure, however, that the sociopath is screened for malignant narcissism. It's that damn co-morbid pathology that gives us 'pure' sociopaths a bad name!
Bob Kelso is certainly an ass. It’s a great scene when Perry just straight up punches him in the face. But as the series goes on, yeah, it’s revealed that Kelso willingly and consciously shoulders the hard decisions required to keep the hospital running, decisions even Dr. Cox doesn’t want to face, and at least in the first few seasons JD or Elliot could never face. In a weird way Kelso could be described as the most mature character of the show. But he is also an ass and watching him get punished for it is usually hilarious.
I think your comment got cut off, but I also think I know what you were trying to say - yes, it’s awesome how they’ve made him into a complex person and not just a straight up antagonist. Makes you still love him when he’s kind of being an a-hole 😊
disagree on the thing that its the nurses tat are the ones getting to know the physic pts, its the techs more than nurses. we dont get the recognition we deserve.
It's easy to be Cox, doing the good things and slipping people into trials or committing insurance fraud to help your patients (lol) but Kelso is the one that has to make the tough decisions and play by the rules...
Everybody acting like Kelso is a monster because he leaves work at work instead of letting it eat at him when he goes home. But that's 100% the healthier way to do things. You should do this to the best of your ability as much as you can. Same thing in The Office when they're competing with this salesman from another company and as soon as the workday is over, Dwight just tells the guy to have a nice day and walks off. Then when he's called out on it, he's just "That's work stuff. I don't take this home with me." He's RIGHT. If they're not paying you overtime to go home and worry about it, don't do that shit for free.
Perfectly worded!! ❤️ I think that, just on a people to people level, there are patients that I worry about more than others (like I’ll think about my uncontrolled hypertensive patient, or my suicidal patient, etc.) I know I’ve done the best I can when I see them, but I still think about them after their visits and when I go home… but at the same time, I won’t let it eat at me and be the *only* thing I think about. It’s just human to worry about people you care for. The boundary is super important and I think it’s very easy to let that line blur too much, whether it’s in medicine or any other profession. We’re all looking for the right balance for ourselves 😊
As soon as you justify the bigger good with a smaller bad, you are fucked. Kelso blocking this and rather getting hated on is the sign of a hero carrying a burden noone else can instead of just relieving oneself from it as Cox and all others try to do by passing the burden on. this shows Cox beeing mindful to some extend - but not fitted to lead a whole Hospital rather than just his Ward.
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That moment where Kelso's foot hits and the ground, the camera pans up to his face, and you see that the weight of his decision hasn't lifted is one of my favorite moments of the series. It really shows that while Kelso is sometimes cold with his decisions, he's still a human being.
I completely agree ❤️
It's a fantastic moment, the actor is amazing
Wouldn’t a doctor need to leave the weight of work behind? Come back refreshed each new day?
@@jsbrads1 I would imagine that is a pretty necessary skill for doctors to have. Dr. Cox even tells JD something similar in an earlier episode. But no matter how good you are at moving on, any human being is going to have things that stick with them. The reason Kelso seems so heartless to the other characters is because it appears that nothing ever bothers him. Even essentially giving someone a death sentence. But I love this moment because it shows that he isn't a heartless monster. He's a human being. It shows that his "it's not my job to care" comment was a facade. It may be a true statement, his decision may end up helping far more people in the long run, and he may have all the justification in the world for what he did ... but he still can't help but care. It really gives his character a little extra depth.
So there was a difference in that moment, versus earlier in the episode after a bunch of kids died from a viral outbreak and he left the grounds as chipper as ever. The kids, there was nothing to be done, it was just a tragic event. That ending shot, though... Kelso made the decision that ultimately cost a man his life. Granted, another was saved for it, and the donation the hospital received let them expand care for many others, so it was a choice that served a greater good. But it was still a choice. A sacrifice of a living person. Whatever the result, that would weigh on anyone with even a sliver of a conscience.
Love how they revealed more and more of Kelso and all the characters over the years.
Agreed! 😊
Is that so?
God I loved when they started humanising Kelso. He's got the hardest job in the hospital, bar none. And when they started showing us a bit more of what goes on behind his mask you realise how much weight is on his shoulders the entire time. Ken Jennings gave us an absolute master class in acting.
It really comes home in season 8 when Cox becomes chief of medicine and J.D. effectively moves into Cox's old role; and he turns to Kelso for help.
Paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact lines:
K: "Every time he came in to ask for something I'd just say 'no', if he didn't take 'no' for an answer and fought for it I knew it was important, and that's what you have to do now."
J.D.: "Will he at least respect me for it?"
K: "No, he's going to hate you for it."
I wish we explored more of that new dynamic but the show ended as soon as they settled in.
Ken Jennings is mostly known for his incredible streak on Jeopardy, haha. The actor is Ken Jenkins.
I'm always impressed with how well the writers of this show managed to combine comedy with tragedy, and to present ethical dilemmas in a way most viewers can understand, feel and perhaps even relate to on different levels. Loved your wonderful reaction with insightful comments - as usual 😊
Thank you so much!! ❤️ Yes, this show is incredible on so many levels!!
This show had the rabies episode. And a boobie horn.
13:55 in a later episode Kelso meets a soldier comes into the hospital and he talks about his SGT and Kelso thinks the soldier loved the man. Then he learn the soldier hated his guts and he overworked, insulted and demeaned all his soldiers, but the soldier then states that maybe that's what a leader is at times uniting his troops through hatred of a common enemy
As the show goes on, Kelso (while by no means a saint) is reviled to be product of a system that forces someone to be the one who makes cold hearted decisions to keep the hospital running.
The episode where Dr Cox becomes Chief of Medicine really helps give sympathy to Kelso and show how much he has to compromise
Give Some Blame to Toxic masculinity too
@@renababe1 There is no such thing.
Aww, these clips make me remember just how funny Dr. Cox and Dr. Kelso's dynamic was!
Its not explicitly stated but Sacred Heart is supposed to be an innercity public hospital, so the whole make the budget bounce - treat'em and street'em attitude of Bob was very much the popularised raison d'etre of hospital admins struggling with low budgets and increasing need for beds. Bob Kelso represents a "good man" traped in a job he hates, doing something to enable people he knows hates him, to do the things he know needs doing. The series later gives us reasons for hating Bob as a person (his treatment of Enid and his constant philandering for eg.)
Also Elliot isnt working at primary doctors shes working at a emergent care clinic in the inner city with even less funding and resources than Sacred Heart. While those doctors do amazing work it cant be easy doing with no money and less support.
Great Review through you got yourself a new subscriber here.
Oh definitely! Completely agreed. Having worked in an inner city hospital, it can be soul crushing when you just don’t have enough resources to help everyone. 😔
Thank you so much for the support! ❤️🙏
That was the impression I had as well, that Sacred Heart was not a 'good' hospital. It was more in the vein of St Elsewhere, an underfunded, dumping ground.
Every time I watch one of these “doctor reacts to medical show” videos and nurses come up the doctor always says that you should always respect the nurses
Haha! It's so true! Nurses keep the show RUNNING!! ❤️
I think it's less about clinics in general, but free clinics in specific. which are super underfunded and often times in more impoverished areas that need them the most. so it makes sense that the doctors her like elliot feel rewarded to provide a service for ppl who need it, but stressed and heart broken by not having enough medical supplies and funding, or even enough staff. And feel unsafe because free clinics can be attacked by ppl in a search for drugs or just because the general area they are located can have a higher crime rate.
There's an old saying in the military: A sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant at rest
I've got a feeling that it applies just as much to nurses and doctors respectively
Definitely some serious truth to that! Especially in residency - oh boy, did we defer a LOT to the super knowledgable and amazing nurses that RAN the floors! ❤️
(The nurses in my clinic are AMAZING too, for the record ❤️ They keep this place RUNNING!!)
That was fun, loved the video. Scrubs is one of my favorite shows and I love seeing actual doctors give their opinions on it. That ending scene with kelso hits so hard.
Right?! Totally agree!
And thank you so much for the support! ❤️
I volunteered as a phlebotomist at a small free clinic. Our patients lived below the poverty level. Each person helping treat the patients volunteered their time there. The general medicine stuff of the clinic is only twice a week, with some specialty stuff on other days. It isn't the biggest clinic and not everyone can get treated in the window of two days. As part of the lab, I drew blood and also performed basic tests that could be done in house. Nothing too elaborate, just urine tests and pregnancy tests at most. Every sample we collected needed to be done at a more equipped laboratory of a much bigger hospital system that thankfully was just down the main road. Clinics get a lot of flack, especially inner-city clinics, but without them, the patients who use them go to the Emergency Department of a local hospital for basic care, which uses more resources on them over patients that need quick treatment to stabilize their condition and get them admitted into the main hospital.
I love this episode. It shows all sides of Kelso and what a great character he is
So true! ❤️
It's the banality of evil.
Relevant quote from a book series I love called Discworld:
"It was much better to imagine men in some smokey room somewhere, made mad and cynical by privilege and power, plotting over brandy.
You had to cling to this sort of image, because if you didn't then you might have to face the fact that bad things happened because ordinary people, the kind who brushed the dog and told the children bed time stories, were capable of then going out and doing horrible things to other ordinary people.
It was so much easier to blame it on Them.
It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us.
If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault.
If it was Us, then what did that make Me?
After all, I'm one of Us. I must be.
I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them.
No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them.
We're always one of Us.
It's Them that do the bad things. "
Only show that could make you laugh and cry all the time.
it always impresses me how a show like scrubs that could just be another happy-go-lucky show they managed to sprinkle in these moments that make you realise that these are people, what we see is not all that they are. bob kelso in the beginning is presented like this cartoonish villain because that is for one the front he presents for his staff to unite against and also we see the show mostly from JD´s pov. and let´s face it he´s not a reliable narrator. episode by episode and scene by scene, the more we see of kelso the more we realise he DOES care and actively tries to give the most amount of patients the best care possible, sometimes he has to "sacrifice" someone to help more people.
i also enjoy the scene where kelso breaks down the door to his patients room, because said patient refused his care thinking her phone can give her all the answers she needs. he comes in proofs to her that "dr. internet" can not replace a real doctor and gives a speech about "nothing in life worth having is easy"
Ken Jenkins did a great job as Dr. Kelso. Leading up to this episode there are little instances where you see Dr. Kelso's humanity poke out from his gruff facade. Here you get to see the choices he has to make and how heavily some of those weigh upon him. One of my favorite episodes. Go clinic docs. 😁
Scrubs, a far more superior drama than a comedy
I love the times we get to see Dr Kelso as more than just the callous, money obsessed boss. The system may suck, but somebody has to make sure the hospital is running as best it can within that system.
So true ❤️
I had this show on as background noise during my Collegiate Days and I’m surprised that I knew every one of their lines in this reaction 🤣🤦🏻♂️
Couple things:
I don't believe it ever comes out and says it directly, but scrubs is based in Detroit and drops a lot of hints and such along the way. I don't think they were trying to portray all clinic medicine as a whole certain way. They were trying to portray Elliot falling on tough times and decided to make her a doctor at a free clinic in the inner city. Later in the series she decides being a hospital doctor isn't for her and ends up in private practice and actually achieves a better work/life balance and a higher salary with no indication that she has to deal with these kinds of things.
Second, this is one of my absolute favorite episodes of scrubs. It hits so hard when Bob Kelso steps off that bottom stair into the parking lot. It was a major step in humanizing him as a character, as he had previously been portrayed as almost cartoonishly evil.
Scrubs is in California, the cars have CA plates, Ted references California State law repeatedly, they drive north to Washington at one point. Bill Lawrence said at some point that it's in a fictional California city called "San DiFrangeles"
Cox wears a red wings jersey due to JCMs friendship with Chris Chelios
Another sign that I caught in watching this was just how quickly Kelso runs away from the baggage of his decision.
He's in, he's out, he brushes off Cox and bails.
He was in a situation that had no good answer and staying to argue just would've dragged that out.
Excellent bit of detail in the writing there.
Sometimes, being a leader means making the decisions others can't or won't. The proverbial sin eaters if you will; making the decisions others won't because they can bare it.
Well done and great advice about boundaries around work. It's good to care on the job and it's vital to have space for yourself and family and friends off the job.
Thank you so much! It’s definitely important to have that delineation. I still bring stuff home with me. I still think about my patients when I’m not working. But I also try and separate myself from especially the really bad and scary stuff because it will just completely cripple you if you carry ALL of it with you ALL the time.
For example, for one person, a breast cancer diagnosis is incredibly scary and a huge journey and REALLY BIG, right? Okay, now think about your other patient with the seriously uncontrolled diabetes on the verge of diabetic ketoacidosis, the patient with serious mental health illness who told you that s/he is suicidal and you’ve done everything you can short of going to their house to help keep them safe, another patient with a lung mass that you’re working up for cancer, and the list goes on and on. It’s a lot to keep on your mind all of the time. I hold space for every person, but then I disconnect. I know they know that I always want only what’s best for them and will Always do everything I can to help them, even if not everyone is on my mind 100% of the time. ❤️
The older ive gotten the more ive enjoyed dr cox and dr kelsos stories. Not that i have the careers they have, but they experience a lot more of the nuance of life while jd, turk, elliot, and carla are more of the life basics
I've been enjoying your videos a lot, lately. You also have some of the biggest and coolest eyes. EDIT: Another great episode that is about Bob Kelso caring is "His Story IV", where it's an episode largely from his perspective.
Thank you so much!!! ❤️
I'll put that episode on my list! So many episodes to react to 😝 Thank you!
@@JessTheMD You're welcome. I mean, you've done about...7 Scrubs review videos, only about 175 left to go! :) I look forward to your next one.
You should also see the thing that is on my leg right now. "Yikes" is a good response.
I absolutely agree with you about leaving work at work. I'm definitely not a doctor (and the world is thankful for that fact), but, my job can definitely be really stressful some days, and when I first started it was eating me alive. The more responsibility I was given, the more the more it weighed on me. I didn't know if I'd be able to keep it up. But, I knew I didn't want to go back to my previous job, so I had to find a way to make it work. The way it worked then, and even now, 7 years later, is that as soon as I'm out the door, I'm done. Work Brandon stays behind and I don't think about him or the job until the next shift. It's like a literal switch flips in my head. Because I couldn't keep carrying that with me in my daily life.
So true! You do what you can and what you need to do to be your best in all aspects of your life ❤️
Love the video! You should do one on S7 E9 (My Dumb Luck), where Kelso delves into the history of his career. He specifically talks about realizing along the way that he would have to make difficult decisions that people would hate him for, and it was a very lonely realization when that happened. It's another great episode that shows you how Kelso isn't actually such a bad person, despite his imperfections. Also, I can't seem to find any other "doctor reacts" videos on TH-cam for that episode, so you could be the first!
Thank you so much!! I'll add that to my list!!
I just made my first primary care appt since I was a child yesterday so watching this video today was timely! Thanks for all you do and for theese reactions, they are so fun!
Thank you so much!! I’m glad you’re seeing your PCP! ❤️
Not American so can't be sure but Elliot's breakdown about hating that job I saw as less a critique of clinics in general and more a combination of the struggle between being in a job that provides so much reward (being able to find how she helps people, and how much by so easily) and at the same time so much exposure to the worst of the systems failings and the worst of people (a stabbing in the car park of the clinic) as well as that Elliott can't do what Kelso does and regulate her reaction to what she is experiencing?
You make an excellent point! I absolutely love hearing other people’s interpretation of these sorts of situations too. Thank you so much for that 😊
Elliot definitely cares, a lot. I can see how that would make this situation harder for her (emotionally) ❤️
I think it's less about clinics in general, but free clinics in specific. which are super underfunded and often times in more impoverished areas that need them the most. so it makes sense that the doctors her like elliot feel rewarded to provide a service for ppl who need it, but stressed and heart broken by not having enough medical supplies and funding, or even enough staff. And feel unsafe because free clinics can be attacked by ppl in a search for drugs or just because the general area they are located can have a higher crime rate.
Have a good day. The scrubs series may have saved my life when i was young.
There is an episode where the hospital gets an, I think ex-army patient, and the rest of the staff is debating if the war on terror is right or wrong, to the point that its effecting their work. The soldier tells Kelso about his drill instructor and how everyone hated him. But sometimes hate can be a unifying force. To me, that is Dr. Bob Kelso. An old man that has seen too much but will do what he must to get the job done.
And will get his fun where he can.
I don't know about comment on every episode of scrubs, but it's worth a rewatch of the series. So many great episodes.
Totally agreed! Such an excellent show 😊 I will.. When time allows 😝
I'm glad you watched this episode because I've seen you defend kelso in so many episodes and this is the most human you ever see him if only for a second
Thanks ❤️
This is my favorite show of all time. This show has made me laugh so hard and cry so many times.
This show really hits home the important message that considerations of profit margins and economical decision making should have no place in the field of medicine, ever, in any country on this planet.
Kelso acts like a cold, hard, callous asshole to give the hospital staff a common enemy to hate. If they are all bonding over their shared hatred of Kelso, they won't bicker, argue and fight with each other, and consequently the hospital will function a lot more smoothly. Nothing unites people together more strongly than a common enemy.
So when you truly think about it, Bob Kelso has a very, VERY unenviable job.
But won't they bicker, argue and fight with each other anyway?
@@renababe1 Not nearly as much as they would if Kelso was a nice, easygoing guy.
@@renababe1 The hospital is a stressful, often depressing, and highly competitive place full of people with Type-A personalities. Fighting, bickering and one-upmanship amongst doctors, nurses and lab techs is inevitable. It's Kelso's responsibility as the Big Chief to make sure things don't fall apart. He does what he has to do.
So, the whole Kelso thing where he sets foot on the ground and smiles. I don't think it was him separating himself from the hospital I think it's more of a "TV show moment." It's the idea that they want to set up a moment either in the episode itself or in a future episode to show Kelso has a human side. Every show or movie tends to have a villain but, when it comes to media if you really want to write a good story and have memorable characters you have to give them arcs and moments where they can show that they are human like the rest of us. Not to say what you said wasn't correct, we as humans can't spend our lives dragging negative emotional thoughts with us forever without something bad happening to us but, I just feel like they wrote that in to give Kelso a more, "human villain" feel rather than a comic book villain feel.
i think, as nurse, that different kinds of people are needed in medicine. Psychologists that are very emtpahtic do great work because they connect with patients. And there is the dead inside no emotion ones that work just as good because they can stay objective and professional no matter what.
Some people take patients deaths to heart and many of those quit sooner or later unable to shoulder the burden. and then there is those like me who genuinely dont feel anything about it. Persons dead, worrying and being sad doesnt bring them back, on to a person i still can help, and being at full strength when approaching
Doesnt mean you shouldnt think on mistakes made, obviously you need to improve, but feeling bad about it doesnt help anyone.
I think Kelso would be even more effective at his job if he genuinely didnt care and was objective - 2 patients need a spot in the study. If Patient Rich dies, many people will not be receiving help. If Patient poor dies, that will be the only victim. So obviously treating patient rich preferntially is the right call that i hope anyone with the power to decide would do. And if you feel bad about not being able to help patient poor - its not your fault the study is limited in capacity. And you help many many more people by getting the rich patient in there. And im pretty sure from what weve seen, patient poor in this case would have agreed and made the same descission because he had a very good heart. Reality is, death is a certainty, nature is cruel and the vast majority of the universe will instantly kill you. Life aint fair and all we can do is try to minimise the horror that we all face
Just found your channel, subscribed. Scrubs one of my favorite series. Excited to see the next episodes with you.
Thank you!!!
I love it that shows that sometimes the asshole in charge making shitty decisions is actually doing the hardest job possible, making the best of it and carries a weight they will never understand.
Agreed!!
Best argument for Universal Health Care.
my favorite episode, i love kelso so much, thank you for your reaction
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I went to an all night urgent care. The doctor on duty told me I had strep throat. Went to my doctor the next day. She told me I had mono and also there's no reason a doctor should make such a horrible misdiagnosis. The two look very different. He also gave me antibiotics which you aren't supposed to have when you get mono.
I had this exact same thing happen to me when I was in college. I’m sorry that happened to you too!
@@JessTheMD WOW! Thats spooky. Or its not a coincidence, its such a common occurrence that if you bring it up other people will talk about it too.
The through-line of pride in this episode!
List of episodes to watch:
S1 E4: My old lady
S3 E1: My Own American Girl
S4 E17: My Life In Four Cameras
S5 E12: My Cabbage
S7 E11: My Princess
S8 E2: My Last Words
Thank you for the recommendations!! I'm currently in the process of editing "My Old Lady"! 😊 Coming soon!
Well, Bob Kelso is that Character making decisions with consequences no one else would be able to deal with, because they're so freakin tough! That's real strenght
I've always thought that Kelso is one of the great character arcs in tv history...and he's damn hilarious too
Two thoughts I haven't seen mentioned so far.
1) When Kelso says it's not his job to care, he's pushing back on emotional manipulation. Cox is either saying Kelso needs to be sad for each and every patient that can't be helped, or at least the ones Cox also likes. But being perpetually bothered by patients you can't save will not make you a better doctor. If Cox is only arguing on behalf of his patients, then he's being a hypocrite because he's just as callous towards the patients that made it into the trial. If Kelso isn't emotionally invested in which patient makes it into the trial, then he's got a simpler calculus on the benefits of including the richer patient.
2) It's hard to convey multilayered feelings through a visual medium. Kelso can always be conflicted between caring about the patients and not taking that misery home with him. Depending on the day those feelings will be at different levels, and competing for his attention against a bunch of other priorities. But it's hard to visualize that into a scene without adding excessive exposition that ruins the entertainment value. It's easier to generalize that into "how people think he feels" and "how he actually feels."
Kelso.to me is just simply...THE.MAN! Love that dude
JD was rude to Laverne, but she was completely wrong, so it was KINDA fair 😂
Kelso is one of the best characters in Scrubs
There was the episode where his old friend, played by Dick van Dyke, had to be let go. He was angry that JD forced this but he also respected JD's stance
I did a reaction to that episode! Enjoy 😊
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So many episodes are depressing. I see you’ve done some of the most so. Personally, I like My Fallen Idol. It’s right after My Lunch, and has a really valuable perspective on hardship.
Thank you!! It's on my list! ❤️
Later season, Bob begins shining more on episodes.
So many of these situations could be avoided with universal health care... it's hard for me to understand why americans don't want it
It’s not a question of what Americans want; 63% of adults are in favor. It’s that the wealthy, powerful vested interests (insurance and pharmaceuticals, particularly) don’t want government oversight and cost controls and central guaranteed coverage. Americans would be happy not to have to pay so much for the aggravation of insurance denials and bankruptcy.
In the words of Spock "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." But at the same time the idea that poor people don't deserve to live, I hate that out our health system. I wish we had a health system like Canada or the UK that actually cared about if everybody lived or died, not just the rich. Being somebody who is not rich, it is offensive to me to know that people who can dole out millions will always be the ones treated like people first.
So true. I won't beat a dead horse in the comments, but the healthcare system in the US is just generally absolutely sucky 😔
I'm not certain if this is the same in every country, but I can definitely state that the do in Western Australia. I was enrolled in a BPsych degree and was surprised to find the nursing students from another campus were bused in for some of the first year units for the psychology degree. I'm not certain how many units from the degree were a part of the program, but it was good to know they were given some training and time ti develop their coping and people skills before being sent into the field.
That’s awesome!! I think nursing students generally do take some sort of psych classes. I think my SIL did with her nursing program at least! Though I don’t know if that extends to all programs as a requirement. It certainly is helpful though! 😊
Yay, Scrubs again!
I promise, there's more to come! ❤️ I have lots of scrubs episodes on my list to react to!
@@JessTheMD I in general like Scrubs because it's not just your typical medical drama. I like that, while it may not be the most accurate show in the world, it's trying to drive a message across most of the time. there is value in watching it. It makes you think a little bit.
This is one of my favorite episodes, i think it's the first time you really see the human side of Kelso
What this episode shows, & in later seasons reveals, is that even though Kelso comes off as a cold hearted bastard in the eyes of the doctors & nurses at the hospital. He’s been out in this position where he has to think of the greater good instead of treating every individual on a daily basis. You can see how the decisions he has to make has worn him down to where he treats Ted like crap at times, why Cox hates him so much & why he ended up at the clinic. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to be this person but it’s because of the way the system has been designed, he has no choice but to become this person. It’s why I love his character even more when he’s no longer in charge, he becomes a mentor & at times sympathetic ear to the rest of the characters on the show because he’s been thru hell & he wants to make sure they don’t become miserable like he was.
I totally agree ❤️ Kelso is not a bad person - he definitely has to make some really hard (and sometimes bad) decisions. It'll toughen a person and make them crazy grumpy. You're right - it's awesome to see him outside of that role, once he's retired, because you can see the good person he actually is ❤️
I try to keep a separation between the me at work and the me who's not at work. On my days off, I often wear my bathrobe, pjs, and slippers everywhere. I don't want my at work to resemble my not at work. So I do things to differentiate between the two.
I am friendly and empathize with my coworkers but I don't see them as family or hang out with them at work or not at work. I don't talk about my job when I'm not at work and at work, I don't talk much about my family. I spend so much time on the road and so little time with family, that I don't want work encroaching on my family life. That's how I stay sane in this mad, mad, mad world.
A good leader really has to be sure to not reflect the highs and lows of the job, especially in the medical field. Sure, it's amazing to celebrate a win, but going up that high will cause you to do the opposite for a loss. And the lower you go, the harder it is to come back to level. Idk. Just purposefully temper the highs, and I believe the lows temper themselves.
I've never learned to leave it at home I remember and rethink every patient that past and healed when I'm laughing with friends I remember the mother's scream seeing her child being pronounced dead family crying thinking they had time to say good bye or when something sad happening I remember how some people walked out against all odds I never learned how to separate work from my daily life every lost soul I felt a piece of mine left. But I find it way more important me needing to be there to take care of my own soul
I hear you ❤️ It's such a hard thing to balance!!
I loved Scrubs growing up but now i'm thirty nine and a massive hypochondria
seasons 4 and 5 was unequaled.
It's a wee bit scary how TH-cam figures out that I'd be interested in this video & enjoy it enough to subscribe, because I want to see more (which I want to say up front in case the good doctor might see this & be hurt, which would make me sad because honestly, the first thing I did after watching this was to look up where Dr. Jess practices. Full disclosure, the 2nd thing I did was to check if she's single (she's not; mozel tov, Mr. Dr. Jess!). So, considering that I view a train ride to upper Manhattan as "too far," I think it's safe to say that a plane trip to Texas is not going to happen. But hey, even if I didn't find a smart, caring new MD to Dr. House me (I'm hoping Dr.J has some reviews of House,!) I found someone to watch, even if not so long ago I might have mocked and skewered the very idea of watching someone watching someone. But she's smart and charming, so I'm in!
So, that said, I checked to see if anyone else shared my opinion that Elliot wasn't a family doctor, like Dr. Jess, but was working at a free clinic. And I am sure there are some free clinics in the US that are amazing. And very little in Scrubs is ever meant seriously, but is always at least exaggerated if not completely absurd. I think Elliot's clinic work was merely exaggerated. I don't think it was meant as satire as much as it was a cheap joke.
Being a lawyer and former public defender, I see that whole subplot as being very much like the trope, so common in both sitcoms and dramas, of the free lawyer. The idea is the same in both: you get what you pay for. And I know that if were lucky enough to get me, you got legal representation that was literally unparalleled. And you got at good to outstanding representation from most of my colleagues, but some of my colleagues could not have cared less about their clients. Some of my colleagues and friends from other offices could not manage the sometimes crushing caseloads, and their clients were shortchanged. And some of my colleagues were simply unqualified.
But paying for a lawyer has never made any difference in the quality of the legal representation, and while I am not a doctor, I believe the same is true for medical care. You can get outstanding medical care gratis, à la Elliot, and you can get wretched medical care that you pay a fortune for.
But most importantly, Dr. Jess rocks, and I'm keen to watch more.
Haha thank you very much! ❤️ More videos coming soon! I had to take a short break for a major surgery and subsequent recovery, but I'm coming back to TH-cam very soon!
Not sure about the situation where you are, but I think that they are referring to walk in clinics where you arent seeing your "family doctor" and are seeing a new doc. In my experience you wait 3h to get 10min to explain 1 medical problem. Ive often been barely looked over and given sone pain meds.
This is the problem with our healthcare system 😔 I’m so sorry that this is how you, and many, have experienced healthcare.
I am in a bit more of an isolated system where people actually do get in to see their own family doctor (ie me) and we get 30-60 min per visit (depending on the visit type). This is the way all of healthcare should be and it makes me so sad that it’s not. I’d like to help change that in any way I can ❤️🙏
I agree in that the person who needs to make the very difficult calls rarely gets the luxury of allowing those who witness the affects their decisions have, to see how they are affected. Sometimes it's better to look like a jerk and get the job done, than to create uncertainty and gain sympathy. It's easy to judge when you do not know everything that is at stake.
Exactly ❤️❤️❤️
Another great Kelso episode is called "My Dumb Luck"
Thank you!! I’ll add it to my list 😊
I think he probably cried on his way home. His eyes were red and he looked exhausted. He was flawed but Ken did an amazing job of portraying this.
Completely agree ❤️
I loved Kelso's character development
Same!!
I haven't been to my primary care doctor in something like 7 years.
But I do see an oncologist (or get blood drawn for one) every month (CBC, CMP, LDH) and a cholesterol draw every year now because of a med I am on (Jakafi aka ruxolitinib). Cardiac electrophysiologist every 6 months, neurologist once a year, and ophthalmologist once a year.
I should probably see my PCP sometime for a regular checkup.
It’s interesting - especially when you have major medical issues, it helps to have a PCP that is looking at your health holistically, and paying attention to all of the issues you have going on and making sure all of your meds work okay together. It’s important to see your specialists and make sure your specialists are communicating with your PCP so that your care is (ideally) holistic 😊 that’s at least how I practice 😉
@@JessTheMDThat makes sense - all of my specialists know each other. They will bump into each other every couple of months when they are in one of the local hospitals as the doctor from their practice who is available for anyone who needs them. So talk to each other about me.
I think only one of my two oncologists communicate with the GP
When going to do my yearly physical, I'm not really given a physical. I kinda get brushed off instead of a full check.
I am so sorry that's been your experience!!! It really should not be, but at the same time, it happens a lot in the US and it's terrible 😔
@@JessTheMD at least he has a doctor. I live in Ottawa in Canada and despite the trumpeting of our healthcare system, we have the longest waits in the developed world, a huge shortage of doctors (I am on a list of 8000 people waiting for a doctor) and most clinics here no longer accept new patients. We also pay a fortune for our health care but if you suggest an audit to ensure we are getting our money's worth, you are immediately accused of wanting to dismantle it!
Yes, there are times when Kelso shows a human side. How many times did he show mercy to Ted???
When he retires 😂
@@sharpasacueball You will get another band member (Even if only for a moment)
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My wife is a family med physician, does a lot of inpatient service work….she has always said that of all the various medical shows out there, this one is the closest to reality
I agree with that sentiment! 😊
With JD falling out with Laverne, she is a medical professional, and she has been there so much longer than him
Very nice reaction. And I really like that you acknowledge the really versatile role of Dr. Kelso. Dr. Cox is really ignorant to all the problems Kelso has to deal with and is even - at least in my opinion - judging Kelso from the high horse.
Untill he has to do the job himself... then their relationship changes.
If you know what I mean, you know!
I couldn't agree more! Dr. Cox has some issues of his own to work through. Everyone's dealing with something... ❤️
From the way you're describing primary care, it sounds similar to what we'd call a GP (General Practitioner) in the UK - so, diagnosing colds and flu, seeing the early signs of potential cancers, etc....?
Yes, that and other things - preventive health, managing mental health conditions, chronic disease management like diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and quite a bit more 😊
@JessTheMD Yes, those all sound like things we'd go to a GP for too. Sounds the same.
Well they have to shed some light in comedy and make fun of certain things I know you don't like how they are portraying some things 😅 but again it's a comedy show that happens to be one of the most accurate medical shows
Classic utilitarian vs deontologist question. Both are equally misguided without absolute truth.
And the entire premise of the show is to highlight the stereotype of every medical field. My wife and many if her colleagues have a very strong love hate relationship with family medicine. Worse is after covid, things are really piling up and they are mostly burnt out and quitting. That IS the clinic medicine stereotype.
Awesome job
Thanks so much!! ❤️
I gotta do that walking out of the Prison in the morning after a rough night. There's a reason CO's have a life expectancy of like 58 I think? You have to learn to turn off your work brain in jobs like these.
re - Breaking Bad News To Patients.
I think that EVERY hospital should employ a sociopath to be the one to deliver all these 'Bad News' events to patients. Apparently, normal people can find this sort of thing upsetting, but sociopaths don't have these handicaps and can therefore mimic all the tender bedside qualities of a 'normal,' while also remaining immune to those parts of the job that eats away at 'normals.'
So, all of the jobs that a 'normal' would describe as 'soul shattering,' or such, would be given to the resident sociopath who would have no such problems performing in this role.
edit - they should make sure, however, that the sociopath is screened for malignant narcissism. It's that damn co-morbid pathology that gives us 'pure' sociopaths a bad name!
Interesting thought
Bob Kelso is certainly an ass. It’s a great scene when Perry just straight up punches him in the face. But as the series goes on, yeah, it’s revealed that Kelso willingly and consciously shoulders the hard decisions required to keep the hospital running, decisions even Dr. Cox doesn’t want to face, and at least in the first few seasons JD or Elliot could never face. In a weird way Kelso could be described as the most mature character of the show. But he is also an ass and watching him get punished for it is usually hilarious.
8th video today and not slowing down. I may catch up by the end of the week. 😅😂
lol!! Thank you so much for the support! So glad you’re enjoying it! 😊
I feel I should point out Elliot is working at a free clinic, not just a normal family medicine doctor.
Yes absolutely - excellent point. ❤️
I think the way they developed Kelso from a straight 1-dimensional antagonist into a complex
I think your comment got cut off, but I also think I know what you were trying to say - yes, it’s awesome how they’ve made him into a complex person and not just a straight up antagonist. Makes you still love him when he’s kind of being an a-hole 😊
Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown
i cant imagine to have to make a dicision where i have to choose who lives and who dies.
disagree on the thing that its the nurses tat are the ones getting to know the physic pts, its the techs more than nurses. we dont get the recognition we deserve.
It's easy to be Cox, doing the good things and slipping people into trials or committing insurance fraud to help your patients (lol) but Kelso is the one that has to make the tough decisions and play by the rules...
Exactly! Totally agreed!
Everybody acting like Kelso is a monster because he leaves work at work instead of letting it eat at him when he goes home. But that's 100% the healthier way to do things. You should do this to the best of your ability as much as you can. Same thing in The Office when they're competing with this salesman from another company and as soon as the workday is over, Dwight just tells the guy to have a nice day and walks off. Then when he's called out on it, he's just "That's work stuff. I don't take this home with me." He's RIGHT. If they're not paying you overtime to go home and worry about it, don't do that shit for free.
Perfectly worded!! ❤️ I think that, just on a people to people level, there are patients that I worry about more than others (like I’ll think about my uncontrolled hypertensive patient, or my suicidal patient, etc.) I know I’ve done the best I can when I see them, but I still think about them after their visits and when I go home… but at the same time, I won’t let it eat at me and be the *only* thing I think about. It’s just human to worry about people you care for. The boundary is super important and I think it’s very easy to let that line blur too much, whether it’s in medicine or any other profession. We’re all looking for the right balance for ourselves 😊
Maybe that's Kelsos' coping mechanism?
💯💯💯 I think so too!
As soon as you justify the bigger good with a smaller bad, you are fucked.
Kelso blocking this and rather getting hated on is the sign of a hero carrying a burden noone else can instead of just relieving oneself from it as Cox and all others try to do by passing the burden on.
this shows Cox beeing mindful to some extend - but not fitted to lead a whole Hospital rather than just his Ward.
Too bad you had to edit the song. Scrubs has some of the most fitting musical selections sideways by citizen cop
Oh I agree!! Copyright 😔. But the song they chose was amazing ❤️
Its a shame you had to pull the song. It really makes the scene. "These feelings won't go away. They keep knockin' me sideways."
Oh my god - I absolutely ADORE that song. It made me sad to have to pull it too 😔
I bet you had to pull the song in the Rabies episode too. That song always makes me cry.@@JessTheMD
Haha you’ll see my other reply but yeah, I left it in and the video didn’t get monetized when my channel got monetized! 🤪🙈
I did.
Coldblooded leaders make mistakes less often. On the other side losing humanity, may loose u the point of your leadership aswell