@@sonofulti1337 it doesnt i got it by luck with the 1 roll i had and theres anti peak, so while you can look around corners you cant see any operators or guards.
But with this System you have a Chance to get Lucky with your ingame Money from selled mandelbricks or skins, just by playing the Game. Im Fine with it.
the actual cost is not 130 because you cannot by the minimum ammount of coins you need to buy it. you need to by the 8100 and the 3950 pack of coins to have enough (from zero, assuming you have no delta tickets) to have 11000 delta coins, assuming you need all 8 pulls to get the whole collection
Not even you just have to get Mandel bricks from playing a lot of warfare mode or decode them in operations mode them sell them on the market for tickets and you can get this skin for free. You just have to grind. not many games give you an option of getting skins just from playing
got it on my 3rd pull. Litterally just had enough from selling mandle bricks. Dont like spending money but thought I would give it a try and got lucky. But ye... they deserve the money the game is so good and their care shows
Since I can't see the player skins when I play the character, I don't really care about them to be honest. It looks really cool but I'd rather have the weapon skins since I can actually see those when I play. If it were like 20-30 USD then I'd consider it.
Honestly love the game but the interface and unlocking stuff is a total nightmare. Theres like 50 different currencies and places to unlock stuff. I paid 5€ and got a couple voice lines and an emote. So I would need to pay like 20€ more to get the skin. Absolutely filthy stuff.
Hey, I like the skins and knives. Always been a fan of cosmetics since Black Ops 1 CoD Points era. As long as the base game is free or just a good game, skins/cosmetics are just for fun. Not mandatory to buy or P2W situation. If anything, be mad at the Shield operator 😂
Also, this isn’t really gambling as much as CounterStrike models. My first Subrosa I got the Watch and was geeked. The promise of no duplicate is great and worth. Price is a little outrageous imo 😊
I only had enough tickets for 2 pulls and no luck I really want the skin cause I love hackclaw but she'll eventually have a battle pass skin and I just can't afford it rn. Looking forward to the vyron skin this season!
It is a bit expensive tho.....however the scar skin, the lobby animation and the hacking animation look more cool than the operator skin in my opinion. But yeah we liked the game the way it is now....to the devs, add cool operator skins, add cool animations, just stop before ruining the game experience (like cod)
Im at 70€ now and didnt get the skin, for me its a scam.Its playing with my emotions of thinking now im in with x amount of money, so i have to spent more to get a reward actualy.
Yes. But that was not obvious to you before? I think the "scam" should be obvious before buying the 2nd ticket when you see the price (or the amount of tickets required) increasing, which is not clear from the in-game shop (if you do not click on the hidden question mark).
@@Ghost-Raccoon i Like the skin, so i gave it a go. They should Just adjust the price to maximum 50€ to get the skin. There ist no point to get that greedy, 50€ is enough to support them, i love the Game, but taking so much money from the Community in such a bad way is not a good thanks.
@@NetShadesYT Technically, they've provided a way to get it for free as long as you get mandlebricks and sell them. The skin is available for almost 6 months, so you have more than enough time to get tickets from selling mandlebricks.
You can at any time just not buy the skin.. like jesus man. When you start rolling for it you should be aware it might cost you 100 bucks.. @@NetShadesYT
@frosbite8874 maybe I'm misspoken. It's very expensive because maybe you just want the skin and it depends on your luck you can end up paying 50€ to get 3 audios of the agent... It's not "scam" maybe but it doesn't feel right.
@@frosbite8874 Well do you know who controls the rolls? The devs obviously. They will definitely rig it so that people will need to pay the maximum amount to get the skin. Lets be honest everyone wants the skin, not the other crap.
I wouldn’t call it greedy brother. The game is free…don’t buy the skin. You don’t need it and it’ll get covered by gear anyway. Let the people who want it pay for you to play for free.
I tried till 30 bucks and gave up not getting it, it was the first and last time ever I try it. Would be nice to be able to just buy the stuff and not be forced to play casino just because you like the cosmetic and do a favor for the devs buying it.
will someone please fill the niche of making character guides and mythbusting/tips and tricks? i frequently have a question (is hack claws scan a sphere, or flat plane in front of her? it seems very inconsistent, i have so many questions on how it works, among other things..) and there isnt a reddit post or YT vid made about it. the info collection on this game is pitiful, and the youtube scene is rough as well.
I was super excited for this skin because I play hacklaw the most and after 3 free rolls though tickets I earned in game looked into how much it would cost to spend real money on it and my jaw dropped. The ramping cost of tickets per pull and weighted chance of you getting the thing that everyone would want (the character skin) is the shitty model here.
These skins should not override the gear in operations, (or show to friendlies only). Or, let all operator skins (standard looks) overwrite gear as well (no neon green anymore)
It’s gambling, just like in a casino. You’re destined to win at some point but how much have you lost before the win. Just because the stakes are only $30~$50 doesn’t make it any less gambling. But you don’t have to buy it and it’s only cosmetic items you receive.
@@briantriplett2667 I do I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying these style of loot crates are predatory I will not be part taking in this I would rather buy a bundle for $20-$30 but to think you will get the main item inside a loot crates for less then $100 is slim to none.
I paid like a fool, looked cool. It’s now glitched and doesn’t show me the skin. All I’ve got is 4 boxes of hair and clothes. I’ve contacted support. Personal feel cheated.
i wanted the skin when i first saw it, then i made it up to the third or fourth spin. I got all the same cosmetics the video got in the same order. This is a really sleazy form of monetization. Making people have this hope they could get the skin the first time off when obviously no one is getting it the first time. I thought COD had predatory bundles and pricing, but paying for coins to convert to tickets for a chance to win a skin bundle is gross. I find all the different currencies in this game to be its biggest negative. I think monetizing cosmetics and skins is fine and all, but making people go through different currencies and stuff...feels like dirty pool to me.
This is not gambling. This is throwing money at a game. Even though theres a chance of getting the best item on the first purchase, its still not gambling. The skin does not have any monetary value to you. You cannot sell it.
i tried to get the Subrosa one because it looked easy to unlock........oh boy was i wrong. i unlocked his calling card and then i said no way Jose im not spending more coz i could see how expensive it would be to get the skin. so i equipped the calling card for Dwolf and i was like yeah looks sick but after several games i was like nah i need to take it off because it looks stupid having the calling card but no operator skin so i took it off. lol i felt so stupid.
We need to take in consideration that the delta force team also use these money to improve the sistem and anti cheat, we need to undertand that the game is free to play, so how we suport the game ?
Expensive? yes very... but either you can get lucky and pay a little or get lucky with free mandle bricks and resell the gun skins... if you get lucky with a good one... And honestly any excuse "this game needs to be monetized this way" is a fallacy because look at how well Warframe has been doing for over 10 years and you dont need to put a single penny in it... you can play the game for a week to increase mastery and be able to trade for prem currency just by selling excess stuff you dont want on the market... I can buy anything except the real world creator content in the matter of 1 or 2 days of trading old stuff (because of trade limit) sure I grind but there is no limit to grinding for sellable content unlike this game where you are limited. No need to ever justify "they need to make money" because other companies have done this process so much better without the need for 'gambling ideology'
honestly its not even the price thats bad, if people want to buy expensive skins in game and they have the money let em, but the fact its more or less a gacha pull for no reason is so ass, like just make it a bundle, why do you need to have pulls, i guess you can get it if you roll 1 time and get lucky, or if you hella farm and sell mandlebricks, but regardless i think you should be able to outright buy the bundle instead of gamble for it.
It's like the ultimate scummy version of preying upon 'sunk cost fallacy'. I would've honestly bought this skin if it was just priced at like 20-30 euro. But aside from the fact that it'll cost the majority of people 100+ , the system itself makes me not want to spend any money on it whatsoever. This kind of stuff should not be tolerated. Hell, games like League of Legends made tens of millions each year from just selling cool skins to the player directly. You knew what you got and exactly how much it cost. Random chance lootbox and 'gacha' type mechanics should be banned entirely.
honestly I'm disappointed to see how they r handling this game going forward. say one thing and doing another i get it is a "free" game but since there last update ops wait timer is a nightmare reminds me of division 1 survival. There was a promised solo que didn't come they put maps on a rotation so they are forcing you to lobby's where ppl are way over geared. Then they removed rank from the "easy" mode for what reason idk. Then you get to warfare lobby's are never never full when starting anymore plus the frame rate drop is verry noticeable. they need to fix the game b4 they worry about skins.
Eh, for those who like the cat theme i can see it being worth it. The game does need money to keep going. So these skins are expected. Just don't sell power. I don't care about skins. Just don't sell power. But no portrait??
They could make money without a stupid gambling mechanic. Just let me buy the bundle for 30-50 bucks and im fine, but spending potentialy 100 because of Bad luck is rediculus
@@NetShadesYT Bad luck? It would be good luck to get it early. Getting the skin last is the most realistic outcome. But it is hidden behind a gotcha mechanic and an additional currency conversion to hide this fact. I am not a fan of this, but hoping to get it for less than 100 (insert your currency here) is wishfull thinking.
For me 110$ the bundle on this game + all's expensive price gona kill the game.! For finish this bundle look like okay & not Awesome. I had try whit my free tickets "100" i have win the spray.
Enough suckers will still buy it and the cycle continues. We need to stop blaming devs and start blaming players who can't keep their wallets zipped, or this kind of shit will only get worse.
@@Jrock44 Not my problem. It's a free market and it's for them to figure out. Corporations are not your friend and you should protect your interest as a consumer by leveraging the free market to your advantage, by voting with your wallet. And if 130$ for a skin is a fair price for you, good for you man, and I am serious. But I've seen enough people who bitch about microtransactions and then in the same breath buy them because they can't control their impulse to consoom.
@@DJCatmom The point is you're bitching about microtransactions, which certainly deserve some criticism, but you're doing it while happily taking a triple A product for free. And they're not even forcing anyone to buy this as its all purely cosmetic. You're happy to grab and enjoy the work of a studio of devs without having to make any contribution, and then complain about greed when they say hey would you like to buy these cosmetics which will help keep the servers running and more free gameplay content being made. Seems there's greed on both sides. If this was a paid game then it would be a different story. And even worse in a subscription game like WoW selling cosmetics. But with free to play there has to be some give and take.
@1984-AA-Nex i agree with most of what you're saying. I think the argument isn't micro transaction, it's the cost of them. $130 for a skin in a game you might not be playing in a year's time is a lot to spend from the consumer. Also, say one bought 3 rolls and not gotten the skin, well now the consumer feels obligated to keep purchasing until they get it because theyve already invested toward it. I've bought the battle passes and plan to get the white rose bundle myself, but I agree with the initial comment, a gambling $130 is to expensive. I actually think they would make more money by reaching a larger audience offering skins like this for something like $50-$75. I would buy it at that price, but won't at $130(taking random rolls on things i dont want). And that's fine, don't misunderstand I'm not salty about it. Like youll hear many defenders say, "just dont buy it then". I'm only offering what I think the general perspective is of this business practice.
@ I never blamed devs or called them greedy at any point. I'm blaming consumers for blindly consuming microtransactions without and then complaining about microtransactions. Devs are fine, they are doing it for money as any other business.
I think ppl have this selfish ideology of them needing to get shit for free.. the cost of the skin is 130 bucks or so.. the game offers you a chance to get it cheaper. If u dont intend to spend the max ammount dont even start. Its a skin, there is nowhere written you need to have it. Self entitled little shits
Remember it's just a cosmetic in a free to play game you don't need it
If the action lets you peek around corners…that could be broken
@@sonofulti1337 it doesnt i got it by luck with the 1 roll i had and theres anti peak, so while you can look around corners you cant see any operators or guards.
Nono, I Def need It.
@@ByLopez1812 we all definitely need it but must resist lol
@@sonofulti1337 there is an anti-peek system that specifically prevents this exploit
Too expensive, but the artwork and animations look great.
@4:05 It's not "knoght point 8 percent" chance. Or 0.8
It's 0.08
An entire order of magnitude lower. Just to be clear.
honestly id prefer to buy this like a cod bundle rather than a genshin gatcha
But with this System you have a Chance to get Lucky with your ingame Money from selled mandelbricks or skins, just by playing the Game. Im Fine with it.
@stefankonig6218 Most people play Warfare so they can only get 2 mandlebricks per week.
@ but for someone who has shit luck 100$ is not a reasonable price for 1 skin bundle, however, i do see your point
I watched 2 friends do this last night and they both spent $80 or more. Wild.
the actual cost is not 130 because you cannot by the minimum ammount of coins you need to buy it. you need to by the 8100 and the 3950 pack of coins to have enough (from zero, assuming you have no delta tickets) to have 11000 delta coins, assuming you need all 8 pulls to get the whole collection
Not even you just have to get Mandel bricks from playing a lot of warfare mode or decode them in operations mode them sell them on the market for tickets and you can get this skin for free. You just have to grind. not many games give you an option of getting skins just from playing
@@sir.pantaloonhow many tickets per?
@waqidj usually like 250 to 350 depending on the market
got it on my 3rd pull. Litterally just had enough from selling mandle bricks. Dont like spending money but thought I would give it a try and got lucky. But ye... they deserve the money the game is so good and their care shows
well i just get the 0.08% prob getting the inky reflection and all stuff just from free 100 deltaticket by bind account to discord :"
Since I can't see the player skins when I play the character, I don't really care about them to be honest. It looks really cool but I'd rather have the weapon skins since I can actually see those when I play. If it were like 20-30 USD then I'd consider it.
Soon, they will implement mirrors everywhere on the map...
Er, yes you can actually see the skin other player put on.
People paying more then a AAA game to get a skin 😂
Ikr... the gaming times we live in. Absolutely Disgusting!
Honestly love the game but the interface and unlocking stuff is a total nightmare. Theres like 50 different currencies and places to unlock stuff. I paid 5€ and got a couple voice lines and an emote. So I would need to pay like 20€ more to get the skin. Absolutely filthy stuff.
more like 100€ more, so ye, only worthed if ur goal is getting a skin with a full price anyway
I'm happy for the people that buy this. Maybe even a bit jealous. But I will not be spending that large amount in a skin.
@@TheSaucyHD11 for me a luna or stinger sure.
Get Mandel bricks from playing sell them on the market for tickets. Rinse repeat and you can get the skin for free
Get Mandel bricks from playing sell them on the market for tickets. Rinse repeat and you can get the skin for free
@sir.pantaloon dam good idea. I already opened all of them!
@@TheSaucyHD11 lol oh well at least you know now so you can start selling your Mandel bricks for the the next skin!
they should make it more likely to get it bc the odd are way too low and max price should be like 80$ and they would sell more and make more money imo
Hey, I like the skins and knives. Always been a fan of cosmetics since Black Ops 1 CoD Points era.
As long as the base game is free or just a good game, skins/cosmetics are just for fun. Not mandatory to buy or P2W situation.
If anything, be mad at the Shield operator 😂
Also, this isn’t really gambling as much as CounterStrike models.
My first Subrosa I got the Watch and was geeked. The promise of no duplicate is great and worth. Price is a little outrageous imo 😊
I only had enough tickets for 2 pulls and no luck I really want the skin cause I love hackclaw but she'll eventually have a battle pass skin and I just can't afford it rn. Looking forward to the vyron skin this season!
It is a bit expensive tho.....however the scar skin, the lobby animation and the hacking animation look more cool than the operator skin in my opinion.
But yeah we liked the game the way it is now....to the devs, add cool operator skins, add cool animations, just stop before ruining the game experience (like cod)
A bit is an understatement
@@nullpo2478 yeah I mean it is expensive....evn my keyboard is $20 cheaper than this operator bundle 🤐🤐
Im at 70€ now and didnt get the skin, for me its a scam.Its playing with my emotions of thinking now im in with x amount of money, so i have to spent more to get a reward actualy.
Yes. But that was not obvious to you before? I think the "scam" should be obvious before buying the 2nd ticket when you see the price (or the amount of tickets required) increasing, which is not clear from the in-game shop (if you do not click on the hidden question mark).
@@Ghost-Raccoon i Like the skin, so i gave it a go. They should Just adjust the price to maximum 50€ to get the skin. There ist no point to get that greedy, 50€ is enough to support them, i love the Game, but taking so much money from the Community in such a bad way is not a good thanks.
@@NetShadesYT Technically, they've provided a way to get it for free as long as you get mandlebricks and sell them. The skin is available for almost 6 months, so you have more than enough time to get tickets from selling mandlebricks.
You can at any time just not buy the skin.. like jesus man. When you start rolling for it you should be aware it might cost you 100 bucks.. @@NetShadesYT
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ugh... my wallet is trembling already... I'm not a big spender on f2p games but I do love Hacklaw...
i got lucky and got mine on the third roll, was worth it, i only play other characters when a daily or quest calls for it
They are becoming very greedy. That system is not going to work here, after purchasing instead of feeling rewarded you feel scammed.
which part of it that look scam to u man?
@frosbite8874 maybe I'm misspoken. It's very expensive because maybe you just want the skin and it depends on your luck you can end up paying 50€ to get 3 audios of the agent... It's not "scam" maybe but it doesn't feel right.
@@frosbite8874 Well do you know who controls the rolls? The devs obviously. They will definitely rig it so that people will need to pay the maximum amount to get the skin. Lets be honest everyone wants the skin, not the other crap.
I wouldn’t call it greedy brother. The game is free…don’t buy the skin. You don’t need it and it’ll get covered by gear anyway. Let the people who want it pay for you to play for free.
way more players in asia, where this stuff is normal.
I tried till 30 bucks and gave up not getting it, it was the first and last time ever I try it. Would be nice to be able to just buy the stuff and not be forced to play casino just because you like the cosmetic and do a favor for the devs buying it.
I get it by 2nd try, you have to not expect to get so you get you know always works :D
will someone please fill the niche of making character guides and mythbusting/tips and tricks? i frequently have a question (is hack claws scan a sphere, or flat plane in front of her? it seems very inconsistent, i have so many questions on how it works, among other things..) and there isnt a reddit post or YT vid made about it. the info collection on this game is pitiful, and the youtube scene is rough as well.
The pass and some of the bundles offer really great value, but the legendary skins are definitely not worth it.
I was super excited for this skin because I play hacklaw the most and after 3 free rolls though tickets I earned in game looked into how much it would cost to spend real money on it and my jaw dropped.
The ramping cost of tickets per pull and weighted chance of you getting the thing that everyone would want (the character skin) is the shitty model here.
These skins should not override the gear in operations, (or show to friendlies only). Or, let all operator skins (standard looks) overwrite gear as well (no neon green anymore)
it works just like u said (it written in the description)
@@nico-qh5vv nah, it doesn't, enemies just see the darker colored skin. Making you less visible with the skin.
It’s gambling, just like in a casino. You’re destined to win at some point but how much have you lost before the win. Just because the stakes are only $30~$50 doesn’t make it any less gambling. But you don’t have to buy it and it’s only cosmetic items you receive.
i spent like 80 on it wish i had realized how bad the odds were buyer beware
I mean…. You didn’t think the only skin worth it will be cheap?
@@GodDamnitFrxn HECK MAN COD SKINS ARE LIKE 25 80 IS A BIT EXTREAM DON'T YA THINK ?
@@briantriplett2667 I do I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying these style of loot crates are predatory I will not be part taking in this I would rather buy a bundle for $20-$30 but to think you will get the main item inside a loot crates for less then $100 is slim to none.
Interesting i get kitty action too..
I paid like a fool, looked cool. It’s now glitched and doesn’t show me the skin. All I’ve got is 4 boxes of hair and clothes. I’ve contacted support. Personal feel cheated.
8 pulls at least for me, around 100-150 bucks
i wanted the skin when i first saw it, then i made it up to the third or fourth spin. I got all the same cosmetics the video got in the same order. This is a really sleazy form of monetization. Making people have this hope they could get the skin the first time off when obviously no one is getting it the first time. I thought COD had predatory bundles and pricing, but paying for coins to convert to tickets for a chance to win a skin bundle is gross. I find all the different currencies in this game to be its biggest negative. I think monetizing cosmetics and skins is fine and all, but making people go through different currencies and stuff...feels like dirty pool to me.
I accidently pressed it yesterday, I got the Throwing Knife but how do I equip???
Oh I'm an idiot I won the voice lines 🤦🏼♂️
I bought the majority of the subrosa set not knowing that you don’t actually get the final skin. Waste of money. Never again
This is not gambling. This is throwing money at a game. Even though theres a chance of getting the best item on the first purchase, its still not gambling. The skin does not have any monetary value to you. You cannot sell it.
i tried to get the Subrosa one because it looked easy to unlock........oh boy was i wrong. i unlocked his calling card and then i said no way Jose im not spending more coz i could see how expensive it would be to get the skin. so i equipped the calling card for Dwolf and i was like yeah looks sick but after several games i was like nah i need to take it off because it looks stupid having the calling card but no operator skin so i took it off. lol i felt so stupid.
i tried twice and got the voice lines and the new finishing move :( I lost all my delta coins for nothing :( maybe just unlucky
the chances is like 0.08 percent, so nope, it's not just about luck
That is just crazy
We need to take in consideration that the delta force team also use these money to improve the sistem and anti cheat, we need to undertand that the game is free to play, so how we suport the game ?
Expensive? yes very... but either you can get lucky and pay a little or get lucky with free mandle bricks and resell the gun skins... if you get lucky with a good one...
And honestly any excuse "this game needs to be monetized this way" is a fallacy because look at how well Warframe has been doing for over 10 years and you dont need to put a single penny in it... you can play the game for a week to increase mastery and be able to trade for prem currency just by selling excess stuff you dont want on the market... I can buy anything except the real world creator content in the matter of 1 or 2 days of trading old stuff (because of trade limit) sure I grind but there is no limit to grinding for sellable content unlike this game where you are limited. No need to ever justify "they need to make money" because other companies have done this process so much better without the need for 'gambling ideology'
honestly its not even the price thats bad, if people want to buy expensive skins in game and they have the money let em, but the fact its more or less a gacha pull for no reason is so ass, like just make it a bundle, why do you need to have pulls, i guess you can get it if you roll 1 time and get lucky, or if you hella farm and sell mandlebricks, but regardless i think you should be able to outright buy the bundle instead of gamble for it.
got on my 3rd pull i guess i was lucky
Way to expensive. I got a ton of league skins from back before they got way to expensive. The greed!
They would make much more money in western countries by just selling it for 30-40$ guaranteed.
Absolute madness money for a skin, game is already losing direction with fortnite charms and shite skins. Shame really.
It's like the ultimate scummy version of preying upon 'sunk cost fallacy'. I would've honestly bought this skin if it was just priced at like 20-30 euro. But aside from the fact that it'll cost the majority of people 100+ , the system itself makes me not want to spend any money on it whatsoever. This kind of stuff should not be tolerated.
Hell, games like League of Legends made tens of millions each year from just selling cool skins to the player directly. You knew what you got and exactly how much it cost.
Random chance lootbox and 'gacha' type mechanics should be banned entirely.
I received the Action for first drop as well. Not really useful. Just cute.
$130??? damn
i got in the 4th attempt :D
I got it third pull. ITs worth it. Dwofl i got 5th pull.
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honestly I'm disappointed to see how they r handling this game going forward. say one thing and doing another i get it is a "free" game but since there last update ops wait timer is a nightmare reminds me of division 1 survival. There was a promised solo que didn't come they put maps on a rotation so they are forcing you to lobby's where ppl are way over geared. Then they removed rank from the "easy" mode for what reason idk. Then you get to warfare lobby's are never never full when starting anymore plus the frame rate drop is verry noticeable. they need to fix the game b4 they worry about skins.
Eh, for those who like the cat theme i can see it being worth it. The game does need money to keep going. So these skins are expected. Just don't sell power. I don't care about skins. Just don't sell power. But no portrait??
I hope they don't lock new OP weapons behind a paywall in the future, I don't mind cool skins as long its not goofy ahh skins like CoD or Fortnite
They could make money without a stupid gambling mechanic. Just let me buy the bundle for 30-50 bucks and im fine, but spending potentialy 100 because of Bad luck is rediculus
@@NetShadesYT Bad luck? It would be good luck to get it early. Getting the skin last is the most realistic outcome. But it is hidden behind a gotcha mechanic and an additional currency conversion to hide this fact. I am not a fan of this, but hoping to get it for less than 100 (insert your currency here) is wishfull thinking.
The skins are power, no neon green is a huuuuge advantage.
@@NetShadesYT Is it really bad luck, if the odds were stacked against you from the start?
not worth the price, awesome but too bloody expensive for a casual.
yoo
this expensive af
soryy not today
I refuse to play this game because of this system tbh it’s the most anti consumer thing I’ve ever seen in a game
low p2w mechanic for operation, no gear visable..its not sabrosa skin but still....
For me 110$ the bundle on this game + all's expensive price gona kill the game.! For finish this bundle look like okay & not Awesome. I had try whit my free tickets "100" i have win the spray.
too expensive, and you sponsoring and shilling/promoting gambling sucks... such a letdown
its so much money
Yeah its bery confusing is inky new char or skin its confusing, true devs is idiot
Enough suckers will still buy it and the cycle continues. We need to stop blaming devs and start blaming players who can't keep their wallets zipped, or this kind of shit will only get worse.
Dude it’s a free game with no subscription. How else will they make money to pay them selfs and server support???
@@Jrock44 Not my problem. It's a free market and it's for them to figure out. Corporations are not your friend and you should protect your interest as a consumer by leveraging the free market to your advantage, by voting with your wallet. And if 130$ for a skin is a fair price for you, good for you man, and I am serious. But I've seen enough people who bitch about microtransactions and then in the same breath buy them because they can't control their impulse to consoom.
@@DJCatmom The point is you're bitching about microtransactions, which certainly deserve some criticism, but you're doing it while happily taking a triple A product for free. And they're not even forcing anyone to buy this as its all purely cosmetic. You're happy to grab and enjoy the work of a studio of devs without having to make any contribution, and then complain about greed when they say hey would you like to buy these cosmetics which will help keep the servers running and more free gameplay content being made. Seems there's greed on both sides.
If this was a paid game then it would be a different story. And even worse in a subscription game like WoW selling cosmetics. But with free to play there has to be some give and take.
@1984-AA-Nex i agree with most of what you're saying. I think the argument isn't micro transaction, it's the cost of them. $130 for a skin in a game you might not be playing in a year's time is a lot to spend from the consumer. Also, say one bought 3 rolls and not gotten the skin, well now the consumer feels obligated to keep purchasing until they get it because theyve already invested toward it. I've bought the battle passes and plan to get the white rose bundle myself, but I agree with the initial comment, a gambling $130 is to expensive. I actually think they would make more money by reaching a larger audience offering skins like this for something like $50-$75. I would buy it at that price, but won't at $130(taking random rolls on things i dont want). And that's fine, don't misunderstand I'm not salty about it. Like youll hear many defenders say, "just dont buy it then". I'm only offering what I think the general perspective is of this business practice.
@ I never blamed devs or called them greedy at any point. I'm blaming consumers for blindly consuming microtransactions without and then complaining about microtransactions. Devs are fine, they are doing it for money as any other business.
THE FIRST
subrosa: am i a fucking joke to you?
I think he said first FOR Hacklaw
Don't like in game gambling and I don't like that the game is going Fortnite style with these skins. Unfortunate but is what it is.
ground bad pricing. Very ridicilous
Not SCAR,It's SCAM
I think ppl have this selfish ideology of them needing to get shit for free.. the cost of the skin is 130 bucks or so.. the game offers you a chance to get it cheaper. If u dont intend to spend the max ammount dont even start. Its a skin, there is nowhere written you need to have it. Self entitled little shits
What would you do playing cs w skins being a couple of hundred couple of thousand dollars? )))
stick to the gameplay content. skins are bs
Far too much $$&
No way much to expensive ! Thats the point of no return . Deinstallieren it as i see the price .