How to Discern | LITTLE BY LITTLE | Fr Columba Jordan CFR
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- How often do we jump to say "yes" or "no" to an important decision without discerning whether it's God's will? Fr Columba believes this type of discernment is how to take our lives as Christians to the next level - and provides lots of practical advice, based on his own experience and the wisdom of St Ignatius, about how to do so.
0:00 Introduction
0:13 How to Up Your Game
1:20 Preparatory Notes
2:41 How to Discern (Simple)
4:15 Holy Indifference
8:15 Ask for Consolation
9:42 Dealing with Fear, Doubt, Dead Ends
13:38 Effects of Being Discerning
14:30 Like & Subscribe!
Referenced at 1:24 • Consolation & Desolati...
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I’ve been doing the Jonah discernment method, which is where God tells pretty clearly what he wants you to do, and then you go “well, I’m not doing THAT” and you go do something else, suffer many painful misadventures, as God gradually forces you to do what he told you in the first place, and then you get mad at him when his plan works out better than yours, and then he patiently points out you should be really grateful he didn’t just kill everybody and be done with all our sinning race, and then you thank him.
Sounds like a fairly typical story 😂 Bless too!
Best comment ever! I didn't know that method had a name but I'm pretty sure that's my go to method too😂
😂 LOL. I like your sense of humour!
This information is gold, much like having your own Spiritual Director. Thank you Fr. Columba for all your & your team’s work.🥇
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement, bless you!
I totally agree. Like the Ignatius rules👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
Dear Fr Columba, I thank you. You have laid out the steps so clearly and simply. I love St Ignatius’ rules of discernment but sometimes I tend to juggle them. I fall mostly when I am confronted with fears, apprehensions, doubts and confusions. I tend to go back to discerning it again and again until I get so tired and get discouraged at times. Well, I know this is where the enemy is attacking me since he knows this is where I’m weak. My way can be all over the place but yours is done systematically. I had instant peace while listening to this episode. Praise Jesus! Thank you! This has been massively helpful ❤
Praise God for the peace He brought you, so glad this video could be a vessel. Blessings on you, Sister!
I did something crazy last night. I went to a Woman's Funeral who I did not know to pray the Rosary for Her and Her family.
Never in my life would I had thought of something like this that I should do.
That was such a kind thing to do, you’re making me think I should do something like that too. God bless you.
What a blessed day God bless you
Wow !
14:38 Dear Father you are so blessed...I wish more were like you...please continue your awesome work for the Lord...John
I have that warmth around my heart when I'm praying, saying the Rosary. But sometimes
(a lot) when I get distracted it shuts down immediately. I don't get upset, but I know that He is giving me that reminder, so I can begin again. No one that I know has had this experience; and Father, I even feel it as I type this comment. Thanks so much for helping me to understanding what is happening.
Thank you, and thanks be to God - I was headed to my journal and sitting with God to determine the next steps when I saw this video. Perfect, perfect timing. God's timing. :D
Thank you so much God bless you
I’m so happy and glad and blessed and truly rejoice that I found this channel ❤
We are so glad you’re here and are finding it helpful! Bless you :)
Hi father, Columba yes very helpful from the bottom of my heart. I’d like to thank you for such a clear explanation, I never been the brightest person in the room but the way he expressed yourself makes it so easy for a guy like me to understand even though I must admit I’m a sinner and I’m a coward because I can practice what you just told us, but sometimes I choose not to because I want to do my will anyways like I said before I’m working my way towards Jesus little by little thank you father God bless and God bless you brothers and sisters
Never my strong point! If there was an award for idiotic decisions I would own it. Seriously, though, so many of us are led astray spiritually, and discernment is a key part of living as God intends us to. Great vid as always, Father.
Haha, bless you and your honesty!
I think it's a tie with me. I think at some point I got my PhD in bad decision making. I found out that even if I ruin everything, God has no problem building something beautiful on those ruins. I only have to accept it and thank Him for fixing my life again and again.
Shalom Father. Thank you for your words of wisdom. Most of all thank you for every time you say yes to Gods graces. You’re doing just what God wants.
God Bless and protect you always. Mike
Thank you for your kind words, Mike, bless you!
Praise be to God forever
This is gold ! I wish it was written that I could give to others
Thank you so much. Best video on discernment that I’ve watched since my conversion in 2015. And I’ve watched and read the lot. Through this video I realised why I have been yo-yoing on my vocational discernment - I had never reached that point of holy indifference like you described. I just followed your exercise this morning, with the words, “In Christ is Everything” and I finally have an answer I will stick to, with God’s grace. Please pray for me!
That’s amazing Stephanie, thank you for sharing, and we will certainly be praying for you!
@@ctmcatholic Thank you so much Fr Columba!
Like that lady who sung I try , may we try at least prayer is the key Amen
Fr. Thank you.. Thank you Jesus for giving us Fr Columba. You hit the mark. Point blank🙇🏻🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Praise God, thank you Basil!
Amen
Can’t elaborate enough, this one Fr Columba was a slam dunk. Been hovering around the neighborhood of getting on the good-better plane and I see your video, kept saying to myself ‘it’s 10 minutes long’ no time…then after Mass tonight I had the Grace to see this is exactly for me in this moment….speechless, because these moments of pure joy in my good-better plane are the perfect foundation to know the rudiments of DISCERNMENT. Thank you Fr Columba…your friend St Ninian. :)
Bless you, Stephen. So glad you found this video helpful, and not too long in the end haha!
Thank you for this video. It really helped me understand discernment better, and also how to talk to God about it. It surprised me to realize I had actually been praying about discernment according to your video description. It was an amazing feeling just knowing God was really telling me what his plans for me are and although I should be terrified because they are major changes that would naturally cause anyone to be nervous, worried, and a bit scared, I am a little nervous because I'm not great about change, but I am actually a little excited and ready for this adventure although I haven't much ideas what I am going to be doing. I DO know, deep in my heart, it is what God has discerned me to do. Thank you also for allowing me to share. It feels amazing to really feel that God is leading me on this journey. God bless you for all you are doing to share the faith.
Oh 🙏🌷 bless you and thanks and praise to our Lord, this is very helpful!!! Thank you !!
You are so welcome
I’ve started reading other people’s commentaries and I’m astounded at the diversity of people and places, bless you all I feel less alone and trust me I see a lot of people. This is a place to open up and express and I can’t explain how I can feel related to people I don’t know but I do, may you all find the answers you seek.
So glad to hear you’re enjoying the community here at Called to More! Welcome, stay a while :)
Amen
Thank you Fr Columba 🙏 this is so helpful for me that I will be listening to it again. Amen... Giving Joy to the Lord Jesus... YES ❤️🌹❤️ Blessings 😊
Praise God!
Yes very .thank you
You're most welcome.
I’m glad I found you. You have help me in many ways.🙏
Fr. Columba: It's super-simple!
Me: Where's the catch?
Fr. Columba: You gotta be praying at least half an hour every day.
Me: There it is!
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Hahaha, love it! He knows how to make a point. :)
No kidding. I say my prayers but I guess I just have always had an issue of 30 minutes a day or better. I’ve tended to find God or at least belief through the intellect and not the heart. So this is a hard one for me.
I’ve done my best to teach my daughter to find God through her heart because she is so young. I never had that blessing. I think it’s the easier path and seems like this is the way for discernment. Just my overall thoughts here.
More than prayer, invite Christ, The Blessed Trinity into each moment of your life. When you're enjoying a meal, share it with Jesus. When you're watching a movie, share it with Jesus. Me, I like listening to music and sometimes I 'post' the Love song to Jesus with My Heart and Soul + You can make work a prayer, pain a prayer, anything a prayer - as long as you unite it to Jesus. Keep it Simple and Authentic 🌹
What? No 40 days fasting? No mountain to climb? Just patient prayer and listening for that still small voice letting me know, yep this is where, who, how, when and why...and meh, this isn't.
Ah yes, that warm feeling of peace, comfort and joy!
Happy Birthday Jesus❤
Brilliant thank you Father, I really needed this
You are very welcome
THis is the most amazing lecture. Listened twice
Thanks
This is the best explanation on this I've ever heard. You articulated what I experience, but have found difficult to really explain to others.
Thank You Lord Jesus for Fr Columba. These teachings are clear and straightforward how to live our faith. Fr Columba you are an answer to pray in a time where there is so much confusion and chaos. God Bless You !
Pray for us please.
We shall. Please pray for us as well.
I feel blessed with your talks, father. Thank you so much. May God bless you more and protect you.
Praise God, thanks Janet!
Thanks Father, these are a very helpful part of my walk with God.
Thank you
You're welcome.
Dude.. I absolutely love you!
Thank you so much for these cool and great videos. Helps me.
You're very welcome!
This is after 52 years!!!!
Thanks!
A pleasure, thank you so much for your support!
You're a true joy - thank you for your vocation.
Bless you.
It's a beautiful feeling of warmth, gratitude, and joy., that can only come from Our Lord. God bless you Fr. Columba.
Well said!
The movements of the heart… I remember this movie with an old time actor Leslie Nielsen carrying his future bride into his home saying “ lord if I shouldn’t do this just give me a sign” immediately followed by audible “no” “no” and the masonry of the house splitting down the middle… followed by him walking in and saying “thank you”😂. How many times do we disregard our heart’s movements in favour of social pressure or other movements… Thank you brother for reminding us on how we should tune into this subtle channel prone to interference, static and downright piracy.
Haha, classic 😂
I was also thinking of a movie, maybe not a classic, ...the Ghost Busters, in relation to the getting ready for discernment with no attachment to anything but God's will. Remember the "stay puffed marshmallow man" lol! He couldn't help but interject his own idea😂 and it caused such trouble.
This came in just on time - really needed to listen to this :’) thank you
Praise God!
Amazing, so glad this spoke to you, Eleanor.
EXTREMELY HELPFUL THANK YOU FATHER
Glad to hear it 🙏
Thank you so much for this great message. I really needed to hear this and know this, but then that's why God gave it to you and allowed me to find you:) Keep up the great teaching and sharing.🥰🙏
✨️🙏✨️ thank you Father Columba.
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You simplify I'm reading a book called abandonment to Divine Providence Jean-Pierre de cassade it's really good it's so simple
Just found this series, such wonderful videos for personal prayer and spiritual development.
Glad you found us!
Wow, outstanding teaching. You are a genius saint 😊
Glad you’re enjoying the series, Bernadette.
😮 amen bless you thanks so much for this lovely message never heard it explained like this before you are really teaching some great stuff here thanks lord Jesus precious heavenly farther for this man speaking your truths 😊 amazing 👏 praise God
Thanks be to God, wonderful and so inspiring, no messing !
YOU ARE SO FUN TO WATCH & LISTEN TO FATHER COLUMBA :) I just love some of your child like or goofy expressions. It makes understanding what you are trying to teach easier to relate too. GOD BLESS YOU & KEEP UP THE GOOD SHEPHERDING! :)
I love this, thank you Fr Columba , very helpful🙏
Glad it was helpful!
I wish I had seen this 40 years ago! Brilliant Fr. Columba CFR! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Gods timing is always Perfect 😉
Thank you Father, I needed this, God bless
You are very welcome.
Thank you father!
You’re welcome
Thank you. God bless you 🙏
And you 🙏
Love you Father Columba. Thank you so much for this very helpful information and also your spirit, warmth and humor. I’m in RCIA and these videos are superb supplemental topics to the weekly teaching!
Mark
That’s great to hear. God bless you on your journey into the Catholic Church.
Thank you Fr. Columba I really needed these practical tips...in the process of letting go of lots of 'stuff' ....and wondering which path to take....this will help a lot....Thanks God Bless
Glad to hear that. May God bless you!
Thanks be to God! Lots of helpful tips and examples there
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you God for allowing this teaching. God bless ❤️
Thank you Wendy, God bless.
Thank you sooooooooo much father 🥺🥺🥺🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 . This soooooo priceless ❤🙏🏻
Thank you Fr Columba.
This looks a valuable channel. You'll find me back soon. May God bless your work.
Thank you for your great advice & teachings,Its just what I'm looking for,God's peace in my heart & mind,to know what "HE" really wants "ME" to do for "HIM","HIS WILL".BLESSINGS TO ALL🙏
Praise God!!
@@ctmcatholic AMÉN AMÉN
Thank you! Praise God ❤
A pleasure!
'Discerning' God's presence, or not. "Holy indifference, Batman! Ol' Red legs is trying to keep me down!"
That's how you know, you got through, Father! I made a comic book reference!
🙏🏻👍🏻❣️thank you so very much.
Right on time, thanks 😇
Sooo helpful!!!!
Thank you 🙏
This has been my leading question the last couple of weeks. I have been praying really hard. And it seems like God placed answers with you! I’m so very grateful!❤️
Praise God, that is great!!
Praise be Jesus Christ ❤
Beautiful! This is so helpful. Thank you. God Bless you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Father!😃🌸
Welcome!
Immediately after watching Fr. Jordan's talk at a healing conference, I received a breakthrough answer to a prayer I've been saying for a month. So excited, I plan to BINGE WATCH more of this series until the rest of my blockage of prayer is freed up! Praise Jesus Christ, now and forever! Peace be with you, dear Fr. Jordan.
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Just something to think about
Glorious advice 🙌
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this video. I am stuck in discernment quicksand as far as my vocation goes.
Praying for you and your discernment! Do you have a spiritual director by any chance?
Brilliantly put Col! An unusual level of consolation beyond the everyday.
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“Old Redlegs”. Haven’t heard this one before!
He's a Devil! Actually ...
I have been stuck in discernment as far as my vocation goes for over a year now. I am in a relationship and I don't know, whether to join a lay catholic community together with my partner or to enter a monastery. I have been and still am praying about it, but I can't feel what God wants for me. 😔
Thank you Father for your wonderful videos. Its very helpful to my Catholic faith. Greetings from Sarawak, Malaysia
Welcome to our channel from Malaysia, delighted you are here, and delighted you find our videos helpful!
I'm overwhelmed trying to figure this all out. I keep praying for discernment and I just don't know what things come that are true. Dreams etc
Do you have a spiritual director or someone you can talk to?
@@ctmcatholic no how do I get one?
@@KH-vp4ni We made a video on that: th-cam.com/video/aYL8nxmBEEM/w-d-xo.html
1) Ask Jesus to make it really simple for you to know what he wants .
2) Get some Holy indifference to the thing you are asking about
(Its up to you Lord- whatever you want).
He prays for one thing he wants discernment on each day.
Give thanksgiving about other times he gave you discernment.
The devil wants to discourage you in asking and waiting.
Ask for holy indifference as to the answer you get..
Theres more, but thats as far as i got ...
Have to listen again to get the rest ...
Ah dear. Every time I pray and give thanks, something really bad happens either to me or the person I pray for. That has been during most of my life.
I have had to turn to mental discussion that seems really empty.
Thank you. A return to acts of faith as often as is needed was a very helpful reminder and good timing. Have a blessed day.
Praise God!
Thanks 🙏🏾
You’re welcome 😊
This was helpful! Thank you for making this for us.
You’re very welcome, Jeff.
With the grace of God, i am going to do this! I have done similar things, not so well prepared, and the Lord will confirm things for me during the course of the days or weeks that follow, Bam! I just know my prayer has been answered, but i never thought to expect the movement of my heart to receive confirmation so quickly, but of course you are right, God can speak to me always!!!!! Thanks so much I have already got 4 things on my list! I will let you know how it goes😊🙏 blessings and prayers
That's incredible, Angela, thank you for sharing!
@@ctmcatholic Hello father, i know this is a long message. If you don't have time to read it all please please go the the bottom because I have an important question...so its going pretty well. The first 2 days were no shows... i just was not able to be focused in prayer... eventually i remembered what you mentioned about spiritual combat, i re listened to your vidéo, and wrote down the steps you gave us...bingo ... the 3rd day, praying at home, i prepared and asked and i didn't feel anything... so its probably a no, or i could have not been focused. Today I had the grace of being in adoration, i prepared and asked the Lord if he wanted me to do a ministry of parish renewal...so amazing, first big lesson was it is way easier to have Holy detachment if you havent already talked about doing something to others BEFORE talking it over with Jesus....to be fair I did believe the idea came from Jesus to start with and I had not yet seen your video on discernement. In the future discern first!!! So once Jesus had given me the grace of Holy detachment I asked my question...rather than reciving consolation, i started reciving the feeling that i needed to commit to prayer. Fair call. I chose to commit to a least 1/2 a day of which at least 3 times a week would be infront of the tabernacle. Then I felt that the Lord was telling me to let go of this ministry until my priest reached out to me. (I had already emailed the priest about the ministry idea, he had said " i will get in contact with you," but he had not yet). So I did let it go... it was a huge relife...anyway after mass i went to our Lady and was late comming out of the church, i saw my priest looking around for me, worried i had already left. He wanted to speak to me about the ministry !!! I felt a kind of consolation in that moment and later when the priest said he had had the same/similar idea himself. So big thanks to you !!! We are starting a parish group to create opportunities for people to deepen thier spirituality. I feel that having a relationship with Jesus is what sets me on fire...I am looking for a book or a teaching or a retreat that we as a parish can work through together, that might guide us into a deeper relationship with Jesus ... do you have any suggestions ? Thanks so much for your prayers, your sharing and your faith... bless you !
So helpful, thank you Father!
Glad it was helpful!
These practices are very helpful for receiving such graces. Thanks for sharing your wisdom vis-a-vis TH-cam.
There is a way of asking for confirmation 3 times, especially when discerning decisions of great concern or consequence, it has been suggested. However, it seems possible that trusting is critically important even then.
Our pleasure, and beautifully put!
So helpful!!!!!!
Thank you for doing it so systematically.
Incredibly beautifully expressed.
Thanks for watching
Thank you. Timing is perfect.
Perfect!
As usual supper help.
Glad to hear it!
Father, what if we made a decision before we knew about consolation and desolation? What if now we realize (after the fact) that we were feeling some consolation, but we were sabotaged with intrusive thoughts (probably ol' red legs!) and made a decision that we realize was maybe not God's will (though nothing sinful)? Should WE try to take action to reverse the decision? or is it best to leave it in God's hands and wait for His consolation to move us to act again? Can we make the right decision and still feel desolation after having made the decision (at least initially)? Thank you for all your content, and for all you do! You are always in my prayers! 🙏🏼
Ok draft questions just me trying to do the right thing better sort myself out first I know I know God bless Father
This was very helpful, thank you.I would love to see a video from Fr Columba on specifically discerning a vocation ❤️
So glad it was helpful. Funny you should mention that, we just discussed a series of episodes specifically looking at discerning the various vocations in the Church. Great minds think alike!
This is great concrete steps in how to discern. I need to practice them.
Glad this could help!
Thank u father 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Our pleasure!
@@ctmcatholic pray for my niece Liliana she was born at 2 pounds and 15 ounces with defects pray for her please and my brother and his Wife 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️💒💒
Thank you! This is really helpful. I took notes so I don't forget your advice.
I'm so glad!
Thank you FR God bless you
And you, Mary!
He always take the high road and me the low road two different people
Thank you Father! Have you done the discernment for vocations video?
That’s not something we’ve covered yet but we’ll get there this year hopefully.
I've found the book, Religious Vocation, an Unnessessary Mystery by Fr. Richard Butler, O.P. extremely helpful.
Not familiar with it. Glad you find it helpful.
Thank you father Columba..I really appreciate this video. Trying to discern joining a prayer group. God bless you.
May God bless your discernment!