This was a very helpful video and gives me some encouragement as I am considering PRP for my chronic back pain. I have 2 herniated discs, one at L3-L4 and one at L4-L5 and the pain is pretty much constant and can get very intense (up to a 9 or 10 level). I even have an annus fissure/tear in the one disc. The pain is all on the left side of the spine and causes those muscles along the spin to get tight and inflamed once in a while. I have been doing PT, acupuncture, and deep tissue massages, but nothing seems to help. I am probably going to try this procedure in 2 to 3 weeks. I assume something like this isn't covered by insurance, but it sounds like it could be beneficial and have me avoid another surgery, such as a hemilaminectomy. I already had an MIS discectomy, which did not help at all.
I'm sorry to hear you are going through that. You may be a really great candidate for epidural or intradiscal PRP. If the pain is coming from that annular fissure, then one of those two approaches is crucial to provide relief. If you seek out a doctor to treat you with PRP, don't settle for them just doing facet and ligament injections. You need to get PRP either around or within the disc
@@DrewTimmermansND Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, I had to delay the PRP due to having COVID this past month. I was wondering if I should get a facet joint or epidural injection being that the pain is one sided. Also, I forgot to mention that, just like you, the pain gets more intense the longer I sit and especially if my back is up against a chair. Walking and movement does help a little, but the pain is always there. I have started doing softwave therapy and had a little relief, and it seems that combining that with PRP will help me heal and recover faster. If PRP/softwave does not help, the next option would be DiscSeel. Again, I am hoping to avoid spinal fusion or any surgery. I will keep you posted.
I had my first PRP injection on 11th costotransverse ligament in back and prolotherapy done in the adjoining areas. I have pain in twisting towards left (pain along the obliques and back). How long would it take to see results ?
Manipal hospital, Max hospital and many other big hospitals delhi mumbai and other major cities in India does this by pain management doctors,neurologists majorly.. You can contact them..❤🎉
Drew, you have gaps in your knowledge about prolo/PRP and the msk. When I have time I’ll explain c-fibers (our prior exchange) and why PRP as you call it, works (with proper technique and protocols). I want to take my time explaining without being too wordy, so be patient. I’ve got a lot on my plate at this time of year.
Hello, I am 27 years old and have a tfcc wrist injury. I first treated it with cortisone injections and wrist immobility and it worked immediately (3 weeks). Then it started to hurt again after 5 months. Now I am trying with PRP three injections. After 4 weeks I am still in pain and see no improvement. Do you recommend that I use steroids again?
I'm sorry to hear you're going through this. Unfortunately as you aren't my patient I can't advise you on the best approach to take. If you would like to work with me, please reach out to my clinic regenerativeperformance.com
What you just described sounds like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars how is a normal person supposed to afford what you just described multiple injuries multiple injections?
Unfortunately, not everyone can afford PRP injections, especially as they are not covered by insurance. Many of our patients reprioritize their finances because they would rather get rid of their chronic pain than go on a vacation, or buy a new car, or waste thousands of dollars per year on consumerism. Everyone has their own approach, but again like I said, unfortunately not everyone can afford it.
Here's the problem though - the results that we speak of are not seen at all other clinics. In fact, using the registry we are apart of, I can see that the pain improvements in our patients are 20-25% better than the average regen clinic in the US, and our functional improvements are almost 40% better at the one year mark. Our approaches are special, and while there are other clinics out there like us, we don't really make referrals unless we personally know a clinic is just as unique as us. All that being said, I don't have any trusted clinics in Florida.
I’m having chronic tightness and stiffness in my mid back. Nothing gets rid of it. I had prp over a yr ago on a knee and it helped a bit. Cold plunge is my best tool. As far as herniated disc I’d get a microdiectomy. I had 1 on my neck c5/c6. Basically if your rupture a disc you have material that pushes out and literally fuses or adheres to the actual spine like glue. Having that material pushing on the spine whether painful or not is disrupting signals from brain to body and long term can cause serous issues. Also give up heavy lifting. It’s totally fkn pointless. You can lift light higher reps and better form. As long axis muscle is being pushed without stressing spine. It’s such fake vanity bs or tough guy nonsense. Listen to your body. It’s doing more harm than good to slightly build more muscle mass. I invented the 1st wheel on a foam roller. Check it out. Have a good 1
As far as my surgery C5/C6 I did PT for 12 yrs with no relief from numbness in my arm and chronic shoulder pain. Prp didn’t fix it as it was severe on my mri. Search Dr Tony Mork and watch vids about toxic annular tears. That’s the issue beyond just material on nerve. He did a full endoscopic washout on me and cleaned disc fragments. That’s the goal. That disc needed to be cleaned out.
LOL sorry you're wrong. I just got updated mri results after my intradiscal injections 18 months ago and the 2 herniations are significantly smaller. Your view is too pessimistic. Not a good way to go through life
This was a very helpful video and gives me some encouragement as I am considering PRP for my chronic back pain. I have 2 herniated discs, one at L3-L4 and one at L4-L5 and the pain is pretty much constant and can get very intense (up to a 9 or 10 level). I even have an annus fissure/tear in the one disc. The pain is all on the left side of the spine and causes those muscles along the spin to get tight and inflamed once in a while. I have been doing PT, acupuncture, and deep tissue massages, but nothing seems to help. I am probably going to try this procedure in 2 to 3 weeks. I assume something like this isn't covered by insurance, but it sounds like it could be beneficial and have me avoid another surgery, such as a hemilaminectomy. I already had an MIS discectomy, which did not help at all.
I'm sorry to hear you are going through that. You may be a really great candidate for epidural or intradiscal PRP. If the pain is coming from that annular fissure, then one of those two approaches is crucial to provide relief. If you seek out a doctor to treat you with PRP, don't settle for them just doing facet and ligament injections. You need to get PRP either around or within the disc
@@DrewTimmermansND Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, I had to delay the PRP due to having COVID this past month. I was wondering if I should get a facet joint or epidural injection being that the pain is one sided. Also, I forgot to mention that, just like you, the pain gets more intense the longer I sit and especially if my back is up against a chair. Walking and movement does help a little, but the pain is always there. I have started doing softwave therapy and had a little relief, and it seems that combining that with PRP will help me heal and recover faster. If PRP/softwave does not help, the next option would be DiscSeel. Again, I am hoping to avoid spinal fusion or any surgery. I will keep you posted.
Drew u an OG PRP big dawg smoke gang
What clinic in oregon do you recommend
How much did this cost you? Glad you’re doing great.
I had my first PRP injection on 11th costotransverse ligament in back and prolotherapy done in the adjoining areas. I have pain in twisting towards left (pain along the obliques and back). How long would it take to see results ?
Most patients notice the improvements of PRP around 3-4 weeks
Anyone know of somewhere in asia that does these injections please?
Desperate for help
Manipal hospital, Max hospital and many other big hospitals delhi mumbai and other major cities in India does this by pain management doctors,neurologists majorly.. You can contact them..❤🎉
Drew, you have gaps in your knowledge about prolo/PRP and the msk. When I have time I’ll explain c-fibers (our prior exchange) and why PRP as you call it, works (with proper technique and protocols). I want to take my time explaining without being too wordy, so be patient. I’ve got a lot on my plate at this time of year.
Hello, I am 27 years old and have a tfcc wrist injury. I first treated it with cortisone injections and wrist immobility and it worked immediately (3 weeks). Then it started to hurt again after 5 months. Now I am trying with PRP three injections. After 4 weeks I am still in pain and see no improvement. Do you recommend that I use steroids again?
I'm sorry to hear you're going through this. Unfortunately as you aren't my patient I can't advise you on the best approach to take. If you would like to work with me, please reach out to my clinic regenerativeperformance.com
What you just described sounds like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars how is a normal person supposed to afford what you just described multiple injuries multiple injections?
Unfortunately, not everyone can afford PRP injections, especially as they are not covered by insurance. Many of our patients reprioritize their finances because they would rather get rid of their chronic pain than go on a vacation, or buy a new car, or waste thousands of dollars per year on consumerism. Everyone has their own approach, but again like I said, unfortunately not everyone can afford it.
Yea, know anybody in NE Florida…we all can’t come out to you
Here's the problem though - the results that we speak of are not seen at all other clinics. In fact, using the registry we are apart of, I can see that the pain improvements in our patients are 20-25% better than the average regen clinic in the US, and our functional improvements are almost 40% better at the one year mark.
Our approaches are special, and while there are other clinics out there like us, we don't really make referrals unless we personally know a clinic is just as unique as us.
All that being said, I don't have any trusted clinics in Florida.
I’m having chronic tightness and stiffness in my mid back. Nothing gets rid of it.
I had prp over a yr ago on a knee and it helped a bit. Cold plunge is my best tool.
As far as herniated disc I’d get a microdiectomy. I had 1 on my neck c5/c6.
Basically if your rupture a disc you have material that pushes out and literally fuses or adheres to the actual spine like glue. Having that material pushing on the spine whether painful or not is disrupting signals from brain to body and long term can cause serous issues.
Also give up heavy lifting. It’s totally fkn pointless. You can lift light higher reps and better form. As long axis muscle is being pushed without stressing spine. It’s such fake vanity bs or tough guy nonsense. Listen to your body. It’s doing more harm than good to slightly build more muscle mass.
I invented the 1st wheel on a foam roller. Check it out. Have a good 1
As far as my surgery C5/C6 I did PT for 12 yrs with no relief from numbness in my arm and chronic shoulder pain. Prp didn’t fix it as it was severe on my mri.
Search Dr Tony Mork and watch vids about toxic annular tears. That’s the issue beyond just material on nerve. He did a full endoscopic washout on me and cleaned disc fragments.
That’s the goal. That disc needed to be cleaned out.
Even if they wear off, these regenerative avenues need to be prioritized. The alternatives are pretty bad.
Agreed!!
What a story my goodness
Interesting...
Sir u will eventually need surgery
LOL sorry you're wrong.
I just got updated mri results after my intradiscal injections 18 months ago and the 2 herniations are significantly smaller.
Your view is too pessimistic. Not a good way to go through life