Candice Bergen on Truman Capote's storied Black and White Ball

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  • In November of 1966, author Truman Capote invited 540 of his high society friends to wear only black and white, and come masked and ready to party at the Plaza Hotel in New York City. Among the swells, Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow, Andy Warhol, Norman Mailer, Henry Fonda and 19-year-old Candice Bergen. The Black and White Ball is featured in the new FX series, "Feud: Capote vs. The Swans." Mo Rocca takes us back to what was described as "the party of the century," with actor Candice Bergen, Laurence Leamer, author of the book "Capote's Women"-upon which the TV series is based, and Tom Hollander, who portrays Capote and Jon Robin Baitz, who wrote the script.
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  • @redlogicsquare
    @redlogicsquare 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +484

    That little "...ok." from Kuralt at the end is priceless and says it all. 😂

    • @rr7firefly
      @rr7firefly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Charles Kuralt was devoted to covering things that really matter to get into this level of pretentiousness. Capote was the epitome of pretension. A poor soul who lost hold of what was really important. Sadly his misbehavior in his last years made a mess of everything.

    • @adamlunter9958
      @adamlunter9958 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Yeah, you could tell he was fed up with it all.
      Poor Truman Capote… what a royal mess he was.

    • @cwbrooks5329
      @cwbrooks5329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @redlogicsquare Haha. I came to comment on the same thing. Plus the look on his face. A nice reminder that sometimes we all hate our jobs.

    • @celestepalm6949
      @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamlunter9958 Don't feel sorry for that little twerp at all.

    • @nghtwtchmn129
      @nghtwtchmn129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I think Kuralt would have would have rather been almost anywhere else.

  • @AroundTheWorldWithEase
    @AroundTheWorldWithEase 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +289

    Dominic Dunne gave the first, and enjoyable, Black & White ball several years earlier. ... Best thing about this piece is Candace Bergen's house shoes!

    • @Mac62671
      @Mac62671 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ha!

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Truman was there, copied it and didn't invite the Dunnes. I guess it's hard to face people when you've stolen their Idea.

    • @maritesshoy317
      @maritesshoy317 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Wow - didn't realize Dunne had done it 1st, & forgot they were contemporaries. Dunne from a wealthier more stable background; he went to college for example whereas Capote didn't. Can see why Capote would feel threatened by that. Seems they both wrote in the same 'true crime' space, too, so likely some competition? Too bad Capote didn't do like Dunne did in mid-life, left society & moved to the country to fix his head. Kind of shows that wealth is actually health, too? Dunne lived to his 80s; Capote died at 59. Enjoyed both writers, RIP.

    • @AroundTheWorldWithEase
      @AroundTheWorldWithEase 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@maritesshoy317 Dunne got into supporting victims as his 20-something daughter was murdered and the guy got out like a year later.

    • @carlsbad7113
      @carlsbad7113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      They look like a pair of Geisswein wool clogs. I have a pair myself. They're great.

  • @Marni58058
    @Marni58058 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    Would loved to have heard more from Candice. Based on the title, I expected more. Either she doesn’t have a lot of memories of the ball or CBS edited her for time. I suspect the latter. Too bad.

    • @81chicagoguy
      @81chicagoguy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      She writes about it in her book, Knock Wood...it's really funny because she is aware of how ridiculous it was...

  • @codybarkdull3213
    @codybarkdull3213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +492

    Candice Bergen still looks fabulous , everything about her is still beautiful.

    • @ElizabethBSoCal
      @ElizabethBSoCal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I love her and agree, she is fabulous!

    • @stevec404
      @stevec404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @codybarkdull32l3 - She was too 'non-famous' to be allowed to keep the mask...extraordinary how things can change with time; and yet she DID get invited!

    • @lesliegoodman-malamuth9796
      @lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      She had one date with Donald Trump when they were both students at Penn. He did not get lucky, she says.

    • @joansutton
      @joansutton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I wonder if anyone remembers her father, Edgar Bergen. He was famous for his puppet Charlie McCarthy, which in a way seemed more alive than Edgar.

    • @ElizabethBSoCal
      @ElizabethBSoCal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@joansutton I do remember him.

  • @CaliforniaDreamer-z5z
    @CaliforniaDreamer-z5z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    LOVE Charles Kuralt!! How we need you today. The other "half"? Now it's the other 1%.
    Tom Hollander did a magnificent job imitating Truman. Bravo👏

    • @EdDunkle
      @EdDunkle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yup. The "other half" is indeed the 1%. At least people are figuring it out now.

    • @cboy0394
      @cboy0394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It was never the other half back then either. It was always the 1%.

    • @ekitten02
      @ekitten02 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's interesting to see Kuralt reporting a social event. He was a war correspondent in Vietnam and the Congo until he started On the Road in 67.
      I wonder what he thought of this assignment. Perhaps he preferred it to the danger and traveling of the previous 10 years.

    • @josephtafur
      @josephtafur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@ekitten02 At the end he possibly rather prefer being over their and reporting on this Pretentious crap

    • @sprague49
      @sprague49 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      So comforting to hear Charles Kuralt's voice again. The Golden Age of TV journalism.

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +315

    All I can think about is how Phillip Seymour Hoffman absolutely nailed it when he played Capote.

    • @anderander5662
      @anderander5662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      And met a similar end

    • @kathleenanne1718
      @kathleenanne1718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      He was wonderful but I think Tom Hollander maybe has done an even truer performance. He's actually better cast in the role than PSH, but I do love & miss PSH SO much.

    • @AMERASIAN12
      @AMERASIAN12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Toby Jones also does a great job in Infamous.

    • @ckotcher1
      @ckotcher1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ikr

    • @ckotcher1
      @ckotcher1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@kathleenanne1718 I would never have recognized him whoever did the hair and makeup really did a good job he looks completely unrecognizable… So are you watching this right now feud I mean? And if so, is it only on Hulu or is it on FX?

  • @Richie8a8y
    @Richie8a8y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Charles Kuralt‘s “… ok.” said it all.

  • @Norvo82
    @Norvo82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    All those masks, it's like watching a real life episode of the 1966 Batman TV series.
    But, honestly, did they have Candice Bergen come in for an interview about her experiences at the Ball and only use about three questions? I know time is money on TV, but all that work for barely a minute and a half? Oy.

    • @juanitajones6900
      @juanitajones6900 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's what the interview was about. The ball, not her.

    • @Norvo82
      @Norvo82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, you don't say 🙂But to go to the trouble of arranging the interview, going through hair, make-up and a visit with the stylist for 90 seconds? This could have been done over Zoom. Same information, less hassle. It's the CBS Sunday Morning equivalent of "this meeting could have been an e-mail".

    • @blackvirgo09
      @blackvirgo09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes Batman fabulous

  • @KarisPigNose
    @KarisPigNose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    They weren't friends; they were his narcissistic supply.

    • @alanaadams7440
      @alanaadams7440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Exactly

    • @bvg83
      @bvg83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      like the majority of rich people or people who pretend to be rich lol

    • @Always_Thinking
      @Always_Thinking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He was such an unusual & quirky man! Don't quite understand the attraction 🤔🤔

    • @quicklykay
      @quicklykay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Always_ThinkingA razor wit.

    • @erzsebethyoung
      @erzsebethyoung 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@quicklykay ... Was he gay ? He sounded like a washerwoman, jealous and bitter.

  • @aphillyate1
    @aphillyate1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Charles Kuralt. I miss him. He used to have a little moment after Guiding Light to air his thoughts. 🥰

    • @beverlyhayshouston2770
      @beverlyhayshouston2770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Unfortunately he lived a “double “ life.

    • @vickyabramowitz2885
      @vickyabramowitz2885 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@beverlyhayshouston2770 Yes. He had a secret second family.

  • @frogkisser
    @frogkisser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    You will never be betrayed by a stranger.

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Holy cow- that is good! May I use that?

    • @kathleendubois7128
      @kathleendubois7128 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      💯

    • @j.granger1120
      @j.granger1120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Great insight. Thanks.

    • @joannyc4665
      @joannyc4665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not true.

    • @Vic82toire
      @Vic82toire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ouch! That's true because they aren't that close to you.

  • @2FullMoons
    @2FullMoons 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I lost it when the narrator said ‘Author Truman Capote had invited *540 of his VERY closest friends* ‘ lmao

  • @annsmith7207
    @annsmith7207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    The point of the Black and White Ball was to see and be seen ! Based on Truman Capote's view of who deserved to see and be seen.

    • @scottmoore1614
      @scottmoore1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What a wonderful person he must have been.

    • @maritesshoy317
      @maritesshoy317 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@scottmoore1614 - Yes, sounds awful. Wacky all that & folks said they didn't even enjoy it!

    • @mary-vy3mo
      @mary-vy3mo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So pretentious...

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@scottmoore1614 Hardly. Quite the Opposite in fact. Rather despicable.

    • @scottmoore1614
      @scottmoore1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@watthaile2053 I was being sarcastic. I think he was a little monster.

  • @thorawilson6253
    @thorawilson6253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Capote got the idea for the ball after Dominic Dunne and his wife had a black & white ball on the west coast.

  • @thisisme2476
    @thisisme2476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    "On the road with Charles Kuralt"
    Damn.
    The memories.....

    • @awalker8371
      @awalker8371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Loved watching that with my pop pop. Ugh 😩 miss those days 😩

  • @theKirkman
    @theKirkman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    what a missed opportunity - interviews could have been done with mia farrow, jacqueline de ribes, marisa berenson ?? or a little more substance to legend candice bergen - 2 minutes spent is hardly cause to proclaim it a piece on the ball - i think you would find a myriad of people who know much more about this event - the historians of the plaza hotel? the scrambled eggs served at midnight? where are the clothes are now? cornelia guest must have spoken to her mother about it - so much more than a man in a trench coat !

  • @fenian123
    @fenian123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    Eyes Wide Shut!

    • @celestepalm6949
      @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yep...

    • @arribaficationwineho32
      @arribaficationwineho32 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Without the weirdness. This was for publicity, not secrecy

    • @fenian123
      @fenian123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@arribaficationwineho32 True, I meant the Eyes Wide Shut crowd

    • @johnchristopher20
      @johnchristopher20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Satan has his rules.

  • @LM-ch8rh
    @LM-ch8rh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Charles wore the perfect trench coat. Loved that guy.

  • @laurab8450
    @laurab8450 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    I love the creativity of the masks...from paper plates to an Angel fish & everything in between!

    • @doloresbriseno2567
      @doloresbriseno2567 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love the guy with the paper plate mask. Don't know who he is but love him.

    • @angelnumber2002
      @angelnumber2002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s so fun

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw a fun one with many angles of mirrors. Thought that was quite clever .... I'm a reflection of you.

    • @JeanEDeaux
      @JeanEDeaux หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💯💯💯‼️ That creativity seems to have been lost. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @davidalbro2009
    @davidalbro2009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I didn't realize Jane Pauley was still on the air. 73 and looks amazing.

  • @JustinCase780
    @JustinCase780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    The Capote movie with Philip Seymour Hoffman is fantastic

    • @maxlinder5262
      @maxlinder5262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      See The one with ..Toby Jones ...fantastic...😊😅

    • @milesandcoffee
      @milesandcoffee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @maxlinder5262 I've seen both versions and I always go back to rewatch Toby Jones. He's brilliant!

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@maxlinder5262Agree- the one with Toby Jones is a better film, by far. “Infamous” had the misfortune of coming after the release of the earlier movie.

    • @shakti7457
      @shakti7457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What we have lost! 😢

    • @lemorab1
      @lemorab1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@GiftSparks I agree 100%! "Infamous" got robbed! It should've gotten the attention and accolades that went to the other one. I never thought I'd say that Sandra Bullock gave a superior performance as Harper Lee over that of Catherine Keener, but she did. To be fair to Keener, her part was so underwritten it was barely there.

  • @philipdraper7284
    @philipdraper7284 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I always wondered if Stanley Kubrick got his inspiration for “Eyes Wide Shut” from Capote’s ball.

    • @la_scrittice_vita
      @la_scrittice_vita 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More Venetian Carnival, I think. Capote's party might have been a place to be seen, but not a place where people indulged in all kinds of pleasures in masked anonymity.

  • @laluna5177
    @laluna5177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    But isn't this like the Met Gala?

    • @jm7804
      @jm7804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was my though...but perhaps not. The Met Gala is to hit rich people up for donations, so maybe it doesn't qualify as a party.

    • @jewel65
      @jewel65 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      The Met Gala is always weird

    • @JVanProduction
      @JVanProduction 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I was thinking the same!

    • @celestepalm6949
      @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes, considering where the original inspiration of those masks come from, it's just like the Met Gala.

    • @jadefire2817
      @jadefire2817 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think they mean one singular person couldn't throw a party like that now, and have it be that big of a deal. But yes, it's pretty much the Met .

  • @mollywoolsey7677
    @mollywoolsey7677 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    I love Candace Bergen, she seems so normal❤

    • @joannyc4665
      @joannyc4665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Her red sneakers!

    • @juanaltredo2974
      @juanaltredo2974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah, super normal to attend those parties in new york at 19 YOs.

    • @nathanielalgernon975
      @nathanielalgernon975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      after putting down Dan Quail, I couldn't stand her, I think her father cut her out of his wil.

    • @lotusgdess
      @lotusgdess 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Candace actually appeared on the old Groucho Marx show You Bet Your Life on television when she was 13 yrs old. Probably on youtube somewhere.

    • @RobertDAvanzo-rk3ew
      @RobertDAvanzo-rk3ew 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      " normal" is an insult.

  • @Pinkranger87
    @Pinkranger87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I love hearing stories from this time

  • @-Reagan
    @-Reagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So smooth to publish the guest list. You couldn’t possibly pretend you’d been invited and simply couldn’t attend that night. Everyone knew exactly who was invited. A strong message to those who were not invited but, who were part of that social crowd.

  • @celestepalm6949
    @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "Do you think a party can happen today & get that kind of attention?" Bergen: "I hope not..." Me: * *cough* * Met Gala * *koff* *
    The worst thing about Capote: he knew the occult nature of the New York bluebloods & still remained a fawning wannabe.

  • @aprilmorrison9627
    @aprilmorrison9627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    If TRUMAN had followed in Dominick Dunne's footsteps...gone into a retreat, and sobered up, he could have written another dozen books and had a more fulfilling life. I always admired Mr. Dunne for doing that. Right in my neck of the woods in Oregon, in a little cabin....Two very incredible writing talents...and both were hob-nobbing with the rich and famous. But, Dunne chose a better life in the end. xoxo

    • @mindakahn9964
      @mindakahn9964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great assessment. The Dunnes ball was smaller and better, if you look at the pictures. And, you’re right Dunnes got his act together and lived a long productive life.

    • @rdbwdc774
      @rdbwdc774 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mindakahn9964 Capote was deeply damage from childhood.

    • @la_scrittice_vita
      @la_scrittice_vita 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@rdbwdc774 You're the only one who seems to grasp the drinking was only one symptom of far more self loathing, self destructive tendencies, and psychological damage. "He should have gotten sober" is an After School Special kind of simplicity that runs through these videos/comment sections since Feud.

    • @aprilmorrison9627
      @aprilmorrison9627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You’re right… It is a far more complex issue. Alcoholism is almost always a symptom of deep rooted pain. And I understand it more than you realize, on many personal levels. but I didn’t feel like this was the forum to cover those hundreds of layers. And here’s another to throw in the mix that you probably won’t like. Regardless of our past traumas and abuse. Everyone has a choice to make. Thats the cut- off point to leaving victim hood.

  • @peggydavis7250
    @peggydavis7250 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Loved the Mo Rocca interview and footage of the Black and White Ball! So good to see Candice Bergen and hear from a live attendee. Tom Hollander totally captures Capote in Feud. Thank you Mo!

    • @doloresbriseno2567
      @doloresbriseno2567 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tom Hollander is one of my favorite actors. He's wonderful in a film called The Very Thought of You. He has the best line ever said on film in that movie.

  • @mst3kanita
    @mst3kanita 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I love the guy who came wearing a paper plate.

  • @funkyfoo1212
    @funkyfoo1212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Not one person had fun. They were all miserable. Whatever.

  • @angelnumber2002
    @angelnumber2002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ok all I can think of is the craftsmanship of these beautiful campy masks. I adore them.

  • @aimeeinkling
    @aimeeinkling 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I have always wondered why Capote was such a big deal. I've read his books. They're okay...not great. I've seen plenty of video of him. He's not terribly clever. But now I see, he was famous because he was essentially blackmailing high society. Once he released their secrets, he had nothing else to blackmail them with, and was sent packing.

    • @ilovegoodsax
      @ilovegoodsax 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I've only read a couple of essays he wrote of his life growing up dirt poor in rural Alabama. That was in a college English class. His essays were insightful and very touching.

    • @lemorab1
      @lemorab1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@ilovegoodsax I love "Breakfast at Tiffany's" and "A Christmas Memory." I also liked "Other Voices, Other Rooms" and other short stories and essays. "Answered Prayers" was vile. Truman Capote didn't grow up poor. He grew up penny-pinching middle class, farmed out to relatives. They were socially respectable. They had a decent house with flush toilets and hot and cold running water. He got three meals a day, and adequate clothes and shoes. Except for Sook Faulk, it was a loveless environment, but not a dirt poor one.

    • @ilovegoodsax
      @ilovegoodsax 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lemorab1 My bad -- A Christmas Memory is one of the essays I read. This was college over 30 years ago and if I recall, Sook Faulk was an aunt or cousin who was intellectually disabled and Truman's best friend. I remember a passage about eating possum for Christmas dinner and that's most likely why I associated with Truman growing up poor, but hey -- it was the Deep South and no doubt possum for dinner was as common as chicken.

    • @michelez715
      @michelez715 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Capote was the best writer of his generation. Norman Mailer himself said so. And he wrote plenty of good books before "Answered prayers". The fact that high society ostracised him after that does not mean he was not a good writer.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michelez715 he was only one of many great writers from that generation

  • @maryanneevans9563
    @maryanneevans9563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think the Met Gala would be the closest thing to the Black & White Ball.

    • @LuLu-bj9ef
      @LuLu-bj9ef 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except, one pays to attend the met gala.

  • @bsusak09
    @bsusak09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Frank is Ronan’s father. No one will ever convince me otherwise. They are a spitting image of each other

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The eyes are Frank's for sure.

    • @bsusak09
      @bsusak09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sarahalbers5555right?!

    • @janismacolley2395
      @janismacolley2395 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree!!

    • @dianepeters8775
      @dianepeters8775 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly what I have ALWAYS thought!!!

    • @infonut
      @infonut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who cares?

  • @kpire6066
    @kpire6066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Candice looks amazing ❤

  • @bluebkohen24037
    @bluebkohen24037 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this kinda looks like illuminati bs

  • @c.7610
    @c.7610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    “In Cold Blood” was not Capote’s last book, as this piece states. “Music for Chameleons,” a collection, appeared in 1980.

    • @jenniferfirer2837
      @jenniferfirer2837 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And it’s a beautiful collection.

    • @anthonycoleman1557
      @anthonycoleman1557 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He said In Cold Blood was the last book while Truman Capote was Alive.

    • @ThatGirlHoney
      @ThatGirlHoney 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@anthonycoleman1557 capote was alive in 1980

    • @kjgammon1658
      @kjgammon1658 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Capote did not die til the mid-80s, duh! ​@@anthonycoleman1557

    • @rbrookswilliams1689
      @rbrookswilliams1689 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatGirlHoneyAlso, THE DOGS BARK came out in about 1974 - a compilation which had a couple pieces that had never been published , (like "Lola". )

  • @Austin8thGenTexan
    @Austin8thGenTexan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The other "half" ? It never has been the "other half." That's an American myth of spectacular proportions... 🙄

    • @jeansherwood2428
      @jeansherwood2428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was the expression for decades. It only fell out of common usage in the 1990s.

  • @prepareahead8494
    @prepareahead8494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Money corrupts absolutely.

  • @barbarakeating23
    @barbarakeating23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    What a parade of egomaniacs- who even remembers them?

    • @nghtwtchmn129
      @nghtwtchmn129 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Does the coastal elite have any clue about how out of touch they are?

    • @oneseeker2
      @oneseeker2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do u know who's out of touch!

    • @nghtwtchmn129
      @nghtwtchmn129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@oneseeker2 You mean to tell me that you CAN'T tell in this case? Did you grown up in a gated community surrounded by servants?

    • @elizabethcloutman8913
      @elizabethcloutman8913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a baby boomer, I certainly remember many of the celebrities and certainly of the swans, Babe Paley, because of her marriage to CBS CEO William Paley. Candice Bergen’s career extended well into the 1990s when her talent in comedy emerged in TV series Murphy Brown. And Frank Sinatra has not been forgotten, even decades after his death.

  • @latebloomerabroad
    @latebloomerabroad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Candace Bergen got to wear the fur bunny ears because Marisa Berenson "found something better", but the irony is that the bunny ears looked 100% better than what Berenson wore!

  • @fearsomebeard4290
    @fearsomebeard4290 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I adore Candice Bergen.

  • @littlericky46
    @littlericky46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Also, Capote's best Swan was Babe Paley, who's husband ran CBS!

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who is husband?

    • @sophiaelayne9984
      @sophiaelayne9984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes but he betrayed her terribly and were never close again.

    • @sydneyevans2637
      @sydneyevans2637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jamesmcinnis208William Paley. The head of CBS at that time.

  • @terrioestreich4007
    @terrioestreich4007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The actor had truman down

  • @NewYorkNadia
    @NewYorkNadia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hollander's rendition of Truman is brilliant. I miss Truman every day, although I've never met him. What an unique man, he'll be forever missed. ❤

  • @lowe-quay-shush
    @lowe-quay-shush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Anne Wintour was an adroit eighteen year old at the time. She breathlessly took notes while obsessively observing this NYC Event.

    • @blackvirgo09
      @blackvirgo09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smart

    • @jakestroll6518
      @jakestroll6518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least the party she throws is a fundraiser and a marketing gimmick for the magazine she helms. Truman was all about self-promotion.

  • @Yetr
    @Yetr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Black & White Ball seemed like such a magical and extravagant event. It's fascinating to see and hear about the memories and experiences of those who were there.

    • @sophiaelayne9984
      @sophiaelayne9984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you didn't know the rules you'd be eaten alive I would think.

  • @steveconn
    @steveconn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    FX series not that good, alot of b-tching by Swans, Capote's book Answered Prayers actually very funny and enjoyable (Leamer also wrote good new book Hitchcock's Women). Plaza alot of fun, stayed over many holidays, back to being a hotel after condos for awhile. Bar worth a look too (same painting as when Cary Grant did a scene there in North By Northwest).

    • @cboy0394
      @cboy0394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FX not Epix

  • @angelwingz892
    @angelwingz892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tom Hollander is so good in this role. ❤

  • @racheldavila6431
    @racheldavila6431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I really miss watching Charles Kuralt, he had such great talent and made you feel better after hearing what he had to say, i like at the end when he’s soo done with all of it and is totally ready to bail😄😄

    • @ManChan-w5p
      @ManChan-w5p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On the road with.....

  • @luannshoop1339
    @luannshoop1339 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Swans is a must watch!

  • @KarisPigNose
    @KarisPigNose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Tom Hollander is incredible in Ryan Murphy's series.

  • @tingdzin
    @tingdzin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I will never forget how she looked in The Sand Pebbles. Otherworldly beautiful.

  • @DavidLJarvis
    @DavidLJarvis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm far more interested in who turned down the invitation to the party. Because somebody(s) did. ;-p

  • @michaelkerr9942
    @michaelkerr9942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    ...met gala anyone?

  • @lesliegoodman-malamuth9796
    @lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Capote based his “Black and White Ball” on a tenth-anniversary party given in 1964 by Mr. and Mrs. Dominick Dunne in Beverly Hills. The Dunnes were not invited to Capote’s ball.

  • @ckrtom2
    @ckrtom2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Inferiority Complex…Hmmm. The ladies had crazy big hair in those days! Those masks were creepy! I don’t agree with Candice. They could totally throw one of these parties today…by someone like Martha Stewart…

    • @celestepalm6949
      @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More like Anna Wintour... or Maria Abomnivic.

  • @hobie02
    @hobie02 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wonder how many babies were sacrificed

    • @blackvirgo09
      @blackvirgo09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh God here come the nuts

  • @mattpeisen7835
    @mattpeisen7835 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Mo Rocca is a gem.

    • @markmh835
      @markmh835 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a gay, Mo must eat this stuff up.

    • @QueenOfTheNorth65
      @QueenOfTheNorth65 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. I just love him.

    • @EdDunkle
      @EdDunkle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like his Andy Warhol wig.

  • @Susieq26754
    @Susieq26754 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Didn't Stanley Kubrick make a movie about these people?

  • @EleyReiHer
    @EleyReiHer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love this.... Very Breakfast at Tiffany's 🎉🥂🍹Candice Bergen I love her in Gandhi, Miss Congeniality & Sweet Home Alabama. Halston is epic too...I love his netflix biopic

  • @Redplanetfilms1
    @Redplanetfilms1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Candice Bergen was one of my favorite celebrities that I worked with. Such a class act! Check her out in The Sand Pebbles. One of the most; beautiful, intelligent and strong women on the planet.

  • @jobinsmith4116
    @jobinsmith4116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great piece and the FX Series is fabulous!

  • @johna1160
    @johna1160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    5:34 With every single hair strategically placed, someone spent way too much time (and hairspray) on Mo's coif.

  • @jlasf
    @jlasf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Is there a party like that now? Of course. It's called the Met Gala. Covered with the same breathless reportage of who was and wasn't there.

    • @AAZEDLARC
      @AAZEDLARC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not really. This was actually a private party with invitees chosen by Mr. Capote (suiting his personal agenda.) The Met Ball was for a long time a fairly exclusive fundraiser until Ms. Wintour turned it into a publicity op for vulgarity :(

    • @jlasf
      @jlasf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AAZEDLARC Met Gala guest list is chosen by one person - Winter, it includes the most celebrated/influential people, it receives an enormous amount of attention. The Met Gala is the closest we have to the B&W Ball.

  • @jeansherwood2428
    @jeansherwood2428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The black and white sun at the end was gorgeous.

  • @ladydeerheart1
    @ladydeerheart1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Today, in 2024, you don't have to be rich to throw a dress up party. Candice may not be there but all your friends would enjoy it.

  • @christineleblond7777
    @christineleblond7777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Truman had a horrible childhood which changes s child's brain and effects them the rest of their lives. It's a miracle he made it 58 or 59 years old.

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover3579 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Love Candace's humanity and honesty.

  • @greatsajby9266
    @greatsajby9266 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not quite as interesting as the other November 1966 event of the Beatles starting work on "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane."

  • @heathermetz6576
    @heathermetz6576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    63:6 “Okay.” From Charles Kurault summed it all up. Tom Hollander is such a fantastic actor. Great news piece especially with Candace Bergen.

    • @tetedepoulet8651
      @tetedepoulet8651 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6:35

    • @windstorm1000
      @windstorm1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would have liked to see more of her however. So fascinating

  • @suecoady8017
    @suecoady8017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ah, the trench coat!

  • @marthawoodworth
    @marthawoodworth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And yet, if you are in love with his books, his stories, and yes, even his own story that includes the B&W ball, you have to feel grateful. He gave us huge literary and social drama. What's Tru up to lately? Just turn on the TV or read the Post, and best of all, read "Breakfast At Tiffany's" and the best bestseller I've ever had the pleasure to devour: "In Cold Blood." It stands today, IMO, as the greatest true crime book of all time...well, maybe "The Stranger Beside Me" is all that, too, not to downplay the great great Ann Rule. In any case, Tru's "swans" were far more fascinating than today's so-called "influencers", most of whom have next to no taste.

    • @wintercame
      @wintercame 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am 💯 aligned with your perspectives. He left us wanting more from him, but in his shortened life - the literary productivity of which stopped in his forties - he left us treasures and unforgettable stories. And here we are 58 years later talking about his Black and White Ball.

  • @Afrocentricpoet
    @Afrocentricpoet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I saw a brief glimpse of Gordon parks Sr at the end of this piece. Gordon was the first black photographer for life magazine. He also directed shaft. He was a Renaissance man.

    • @Afrocentricpoet
      @Afrocentricpoet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His son directed superfly

    • @windstorm1000
      @windstorm1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice to see a couple of color at the party but it's based on interesting achievements as you said.

    • @windstorm1000
      @windstorm1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Afrocentricpoetcool thanks

    • @windstorm1000
      @windstorm1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And Truman invited people he was intrigued by creative people like Gordon...

  • @thelostone6981
    @thelostone6981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Side note/complaint: Toby Jones should have won an Oscar for Infamous. No offense towards Philip Seymour Hoffman because he was a brilliant actor, but Infamous was a far superior film.

  • @w.urlitzer1869
    @w.urlitzer1869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    candice bergen is lovely.

  • @michaelrg3836
    @michaelrg3836 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    54 seems more fun/exclusive/...naughty.

    • @celestepalm6949
      @celestepalm6949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually, the disco craze of this time was more wholesome compared to the origins of these B&W Balls.

  • @elizabethharttley4073
    @elizabethharttley4073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How capote treated Harper Lee was abominable and soured me forever.

  • @duncansdav
    @duncansdav 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    There’s a lot about this event in George Plimpton’s book of interviews about Truman.
    A lot of guests afterwards deemed it a bust; a bit embarassing that Truman was so anxious for it to be a success.

    • @oneseeker2
      @oneseeker2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did the Guest expect

    • @scottmoore1614
      @scottmoore1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The whole empty and vacuous nature of modern day celebrity may have actually started that evening. Rich snobs jockeying for their moment in the spotlight. Famous for being famous, if nothing else. So, thanks Truman. I would have felt the same way Kuralt did about the whole damn thing.

  • @ThumbdownMan
    @ThumbdownMan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Only because it's captured on film.

  • @arthurboehm
    @arthurboehm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Of course people had fun--in the sense that they knew themselves to be an elect among super elects. It's a deep-on-the-inside rush.

  • @ednaamck3831
    @ednaamck3831 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hollander disappeared and Capote emerged. Very good ancting annd interpretation of this writer and an interesting movie. I enjoyed it.

  • @code-52
    @code-52 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If Capote VS The Swans is remotely true, I agree with Demi Moore's character. Yeah, I call him that.

    • @scottmoore1614
      @scottmoore1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did she call him? The C word? He probably was one.

  • @pam0626
    @pam0626 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sadly for Anna Wintour, this will be her legacy.

  • @phylliscrosby4
    @phylliscrosby4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Truman was mocking all of them. Laughing right in their sad rich faces.

  • @franciscofernandez5034
    @franciscofernandez5034 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You got to be a powerful figure to ever be there in the first place

  • @jmallett6081
    @jmallett6081 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For some reason Candice did not like the party. It seemed superficial and even the newscaster was glad his reporting was over. I think the party was to prove that Capote could invite people and the others he didn't like felt rejected. There is this underlying trauma from his mother wanting to be a part of that society, she did whatever she could do to achieve it, however Capote was constantly overlooked and abandoned. I think by becoming an important author and making friends with the highest in New York society and Hollywood for that matter, he believed that was how to deal with his situation in the best way he could. It did not make him happy and he was not true to himself. He pushed his real friends away from himself, and pushed even the superficial ones away. I don't think his swans were friends on some level, it was just not something that was fulfilling to him. Because he was a genius and did not feel accomplished, his sense of self was going through conflict. His mother was not a real mother, nor the swans that he hoped would answer that issue. He should have done some shadow work in a different way, even if he wrote about his childhood and his mother and the conflict between the social statuses and people trying to survive poverty and being snubbed and all the things in between. There are people insecure willing to do anything to climb the social ladder, even the ones who are born into it never feel security all the way, nothing is as simple as it seems. Even people you think have everything can be unhappy people.

  • @ovh992
    @ovh992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "Berenson became one of the highest paid models of the time."
    Yea. She was probably paid $40 an hour. Models did not start making money until the late 80s / early 90s.

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bereson didn't need the money, her grandmother was Elsa Schiaparelli and they were Italian aristo's.

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cheril Tieges was making $100.00 an hour in 1978.

    • @ovh992
      @ovh992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cross75man75 thank you! I loved Cheryl Tiegs!

    • @ovh992
      @ovh992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cross75man75 not stating that she needed the money. I was stating thT the highest paid models made very little money. I never thought Marisa was model beautiful. She was famous because of her lineage, not because of her facial features. I felt her eyes were too big and her forehead was too. She looked like a kewpie doll.

    • @timolinwilliams9404
      @timolinwilliams9404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Her sister was the late Berry Berenson, who was a famous photographer and widow of Anthony Perkins. Berry was killed in the 9/11 attacks in NY.😢

  • @geraldtyus8645
    @geraldtyus8645 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Trumsn actually believed he was to the manner born after cruising and smoozing with Bill and Babe and others. However, he was a talented writer with all those pretentious airs. He was truly sad. He served breakfast food and tired champagne. All those old old old old men and a room filled with discontented arm candy courtesans and well bred geishas controlled by husbands who wouldn't even make love to them. From Marella Agnelli to chronically broke Lee Radziwill, nobody got out alive. Pamela Harriman was the only one who truly pimped those men and got her just dues.

    • @oneseeker2
      @oneseeker2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting that's ur take. !MINE is, nothing of interest

  • @laura1000
    @laura1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Clickbait. Bergen says little in this clip compared to several others who are also interviewed.

  • @PearlsandRoses
    @PearlsandRoses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ooh!😮 a masked ((not so)) 👀BLACK and ((exclusively)) WHITE ball!🎭

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not true there were black guess, at the end of the reportage you can see Gordon Parks and his then wife arriving and they weren't the only black guest, no there were not a lot but it was 1966. Funny anecdote, Gordon didn't wear a mask as he felt his black face was enough of a disguise.

  • @stevenholquin2127
    @stevenholquin2127 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Candice Bergen
    Hollywood Royalty
    Her Father a Must
    Read Edger Bergen
    Biography
    Very Few Entertainers
    Did Vaudeville
    Broadway
    Radio
    Motion Pictures
    and Television
    Edgar Bergen
    Has That Distinction
    Good To See
    Candice What a Joy

  • @stevec404
    @stevec404 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wonderful piece of nutty history!

  • @frenchtoast7742
    @frenchtoast7742 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I miss seeing that old glamour. It was beautiful.

  • @angelh1743
    @angelh1743 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A very sad little man. Drowning in a poisonous world he created all by himself. Very sad indeed.

  • @tommunyon2874
    @tommunyon2874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We held black & white balls at the Arthur Murray Studio where I worked. Perhaps the studio owners were inspired by Capote. The Aubrey Beardsley style print kaftan dresses were popular with the women.

  • @andyroo9381
    @andyroo9381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    An entirely different time. An entirely different place. An entirely different world.

    • @scottmoore1614
      @scottmoore1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really? I find it very similar to the rich and famous “elite” of today. I would argue things have only gotten worse.

  • @richardkastlemusic
    @richardkastlemusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Was Truman Capote that vengeful?

    • @oneseeker2
      @oneseeker2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      O think he was *sick in his head " wrote against his besties, having no clue of the outcome.

    • @Tamsyn12003
      @Tamsyn12003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup. As a kid, if you watched Johnny Carson in the late 60’s and 70’s, he would maliciously gossip about his so called friends. I skipped those Carson nights. Seemed he was on twice a month at least. He was vicious. And full of his own vain self-importance.

  • @coolbirth
    @coolbirth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    purportedly, one of the few exceptions to the list of denied lobbiers, was tallulah bankhead: he politely lied and told her her invitation must've been lost in the mail, and delivered a "new" one to her. she had a great time. i think candice bergen's bunny mask was donated to the museum of the city of new york.

    • @phoebevolz2291
      @phoebevolz2291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imagine throwing a party in New York City during her lifetime and not inviting Tallulah! It doesn’t surprise me one bit that she enjoyed herself. She loved having an audience, paying or otherwise.