Radius of convergence using Ratio Test

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  • @minecraftion25565
    @minecraftion25565 7 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I could've gotten this information in 135 minutes-worth of lessons, but I got it in 7 minutes on Khan Academy (in a way that I can actually understand). Man, I love Khan Academy. It's the only reason I'm passing my calculus class.

    • @AD-wg8ik
      @AD-wg8ik 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was it worth it

  • @mrslovvet
    @mrslovvet 10 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Not that it really matters, but in the yellow line at the top where you expanded the series, the third term has a 4 in the denominator when it should have a 3 (n = 3).
    Otherwise, awesome video! These really help me study for my midterm.

    • @jasonvegan5761
      @jasonvegan5761 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yea, the series wasn't expanded correctly but I think most people probably noticed the error so no big deal

    • @raycooper1943
      @raycooper1943 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Jason Owen Yes, it was noticed, and it is not a big deal.

    • @sudiptoghosh5740
      @sudiptoghosh5740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is quite conspicuous

    • @frettchen1498
      @frettchen1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! I was really confused at first

  • @sathvikswaminathan7933
    @sathvikswaminathan7933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    the values x=4 and x=-4 also need to be checked since at those values, the ratio test in inconclusive but by the p series and alternating series test, it can be proved that at these two values, the series converges. Therefore x belongs to [-4,4] and not (-4,4)

  • @masonbanas9864
    @masonbanas9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Khan Academy, I can't thank you enough for making something so hard to understand in class so easy to understand from you. What you do is beyond appreciated, please never stop doing what you do my guy.

  • @thedarkgenious7967
    @thedarkgenious7967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks. My calc 2 professor went on for 4 hours of drawn out rambling over 2 lectures trying to teach us what the radius of convergence/interval of convergence was and how to find them. I learned more in this 7 minute video than those lectures.

  • @manuelhernandaz2147
    @manuelhernandaz2147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just want to say thank you for doing these comprehensive videos. My calculous teacher just can’t seem to explain it so it clicks, your really helping me save my grade and learn. Thank you

  • @magicguy1988
    @magicguy1988 10 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Technically you need to check x=4 and x= -4 for convergence since the ratio test yields no conclusion when L=1

    • @yongbowang1444
      @yongbowang1444 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree

    • @paulyu7739
      @paulyu7739 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @nolanison6642
      @nolanison6642 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You plug those points in for x and solve that particular series for convergence.

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep that's right. In this case both endpoints converge by the p-series test

  • @zsolttildy5742
    @zsolttildy5742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    tryna do the question and the same time as sal and lowkey beat him then he starts pulling out the copy paste function and you know its game over smh sal

  • @krazywyatt2638
    @krazywyatt2638 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks man, you're a great teacher!

  • @cortisol_induced_coma
    @cortisol_induced_coma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish all professors could explain things as simply as you

  • @edrinabenes9754
    @edrinabenes9754 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    when n=3, isn't the second term of the denominator 3^4?

  • @kazlee6909
    @kazlee6909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ryan Maccombs!! Good video as always :)

  • @sandeepchoudhary4065
    @sandeepchoudhary4065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you my friend are a life saver
    Thank you so much.

  • @hurrdurr25
    @hurrdurr25 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    but you didn't check the endpoints

    • @epicgamermoments4900
      @epicgamermoments4900 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I'm aware, the endpoints don't affect the radius of convergence. The radius is the same whether defined as (a-R, a+R) or [a-R, a+R]

    • @priyanshmehta9988
      @priyanshmehta9988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@epicgamermoments4900 Yeah, it doesn't affect the radius of convergence, but he has to check that for interval of convergence

  • @froh_do4431
    @froh_do4431 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how we are going to know that something has to be < 1 for convergence at 6:00? Is that a more complicated statement to show at this moment?

    • @tylerdee7529
      @tylerdee7529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ratio test says that as long as the limit to infinity of the ratio is less than 1, it converges. After simplifying the limit of the ratio, we are left with an x-term. So basically the function converges if this x-term is less than 1

  • @Copybook
    @Copybook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't imagine life without Khan Academy

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it accurate to state?: "For arithmetic series, the *difference* between consecutive terms is constant. For geometric series, the *ratio* between consecutive terms is constant."

  • @shreeramaashokaadakoli6784
    @shreeramaashokaadakoli6784 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're awesome sir Sal thanks a lot

  • @terrienichols204
    @terrienichols204 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do we not test the end points for convergence? In other words, could it be the case that the interval is not (-4, 4) but [-4, 4] or [-4, 4) or (-4, 4]. Shouldn't we address the endpoints?

  • @mazahiranjum175
    @mazahiranjum175 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot Khan academy

  • @luciazazel2683
    @luciazazel2683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for doing what you do!

  • @ansarsultan
    @ansarsultan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank u very very very very much

  • @Grassmpl
    @Grassmpl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BOTH of what you boxed were the interval of convergence. The radius of convergence is the number 4 itself. Half the interval length

  • @priyanshu715
    @priyanshu715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:40 the third terms is wrong (silly mistake)

  • @bowenjudd1028
    @bowenjudd1028 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in foundations and we defined R = 1/lim sup |c|^1/k

  • @ZephyrCheez
    @ZephyrCheez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You made a mistake in the beginning, the third one should have 4^3 * 3^4, since n is equal to 3 in that scenario

  • @nishasingh-yu6ln
    @nishasingh-yu6ln 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but sir what about at point x =4 and x=-4 ...we have to check at end points.....

    • @harrisonbellis8178
      @harrisonbellis8178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't had lectures on this yet but intuitively I guess you should put x=4 into the expression for the general term of the summation to get a P-series which in this case gives 4/n^4 or 4 times the sum of 1/n^4 which is a convergent P series.

    • @candykiss024
      @candykiss024 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, all you do is plug it back in and use some tests to see if it converges or not

  • @aiicwyt6768
    @aiicwyt6768 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoutout to Mr. Achille’s class!

  • @jacklazzaro9820
    @jacklazzaro9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:59 That’s wrong. It’s 4^3 * 3^4.

  • @cookiesizYumaah
    @cookiesizYumaah 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Great work!

  • @cristianferretty6971
    @cristianferretty6971 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much man, seriously.

  • @michaelfjmusic
    @michaelfjmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremely helpful video, but I don't understand why he was able to simplify (n + 1)^4 so easily? It just seems too good to be true and I don't fully understand it.

    • @annie_adler
      @annie_adler 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Judd actually, you don't need to expand it in full. As the video shows, the only thing you need to know about (n-1)^4 is that its term with the highest order is n^4. That's enough for you to simplify the limits.

  • @mahimakalani2647
    @mahimakalani2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you is all I wish to say...

  • @m.sripadh4338
    @m.sripadh4338 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    will you please tell me the software name which you are using?

  • @echessbee
    @echessbee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @real_john_doe
    @real_john_doe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that he missed n=3 in the denominator in the very beginning makes absolutely no difference here. Stop nitpicking.

  • @Vathanaization
    @Vathanaization 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much

  • @nihalgupta5009
    @nihalgupta5009 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir,which software is this?

  • @jackzheng8535
    @jackzheng8535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are king

  • @HowViolet
    @HowViolet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never listen to lectures anymore... and my grades couldn't be better.... is that bad lol?!

  • @curtpiazza1688
    @curtpiazza1688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great ! 😊

  • @zhangdingkang781
    @zhangdingkang781 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @ivideos7348
    @ivideos7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks !

  • @whoisbobby3
    @whoisbobby3 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    N=3 is wrong

  • @musahamza5829
    @musahamza5829 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot. . .

  • @freyappari
    @freyappari 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    W explanation

  • @Redblade15
    @Redblade15 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @babingurung255
    @babingurung255 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @alexwhetstone4464
    @alexwhetstone4464 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankyou

  • @drmichaelsunsschoolformath
    @drmichaelsunsschoolformath 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the start when you say x=1,2,3.. u mean n=1,2,3...

  • @MrBoriskaful
    @MrBoriskaful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    HOW CAN I KNOW WHICH TEST I SHOULD APPLY WHEN I SEE THE QUESTION I AM GOING CRAZY AHHHH

  • @titusadams5288
    @titusadams5288 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you!!

  • @arealhumanbeann
    @arealhumanbeann 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just exactly what i need lmao

  • @RCstrava
    @RCstrava 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay finally get it

  • @plasma8321
    @plasma8321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if its, the ones that gives you more than one number?

  • @mechwise6811
    @mechwise6811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The radius is 2, because it is always half of the interval

  • @1Naif
    @1Naif 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @BROBOTwithhope
    @BROBOTwithhope 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong im pretty sure, or he made an error in the middle and fixed it later somehow

  • @rintumondal5658
    @rintumondal5658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh ho ;)

  • @jinglemich4941
    @jinglemich4941 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's say...

  • @stefanosadane977
    @stefanosadane977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gonna burn down that useless text book

  • @marklvrd
    @marklvrd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, my textbook sucks...

  • @thenozar7603
    @thenozar7603 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    n=1, n=2, n=4? Someone missed a 3

  • @markwilders5436
    @markwilders5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fix you voice

  • @nosirrahonline
    @nosirrahonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you