You can't prove that n^10/n! doesn't diverge with the divergence test as stated in 2:40 because lim an = 0 so it can still diverge ou converge. Or am I wrong?
Yes, divergence test has only two possible ending: the series diverges or the test is inconclusive. Divergence test cannot be used to prove the convergence of a series.
You are right. For this video on the official website, there was a comment block that appeared right when he said it that wrote "The divergence test cannot be used for this case".
I realize this is from 2 years ago so apologies for bringing it up now as its probably not relevant for you anymore, but I thought it was still a question that deserved an answer- more for the sake of anyone who's reading these comments now with similar questions. If the ratio is 1, the sequence of terms would most certainly all be the same as the first term (since we're just multiplying by 1 each time), but what we mean when we talk about the convergence or divergence of a series is the *sum* of all of those terms. If the terms aren't approaching 0 as n --> infinity, then that sum can't be a finite number since you'll be continually adding new numbers to it (this is the idea behind the Divergence Test). In our case with r = 1, you're adding the same term over and over forever, so of course that infinite sum could only be written as being "equal" to infinity (in other words, it is a divergent series since the sum does not get closer and closer to equaling some finite number). Basically, what you've pointed out is that the *sequence of terms* "converges" to the first term as n --> infinity, but this is different from the series converging to a finite number (which, as the Divergence Test will show, can only occur if that sequence of terms goes to 0 as n --> infinity.
@UCM74r8Kt9bGF4XPA61iFfVw I'm so glad it was helpful for you! It's definitely one of those things that I was incredibly happy to figure out for myself, I remember it being a big deal for me when that concept started to click. Are you in Calc 2 by any chance? Just curious, since that's where I was first introduced to this stuff (last semester for me)
I'm afraid I still cannot tell what it happening when you say that n is going to infinity. If n becomes infinity in both the denominator and the numerator of a fraction, isn't it just going to converge at 1 regardless?
Working with infinity and limits is weird, but basically the way it works here is the denominator in this case “approaches infinity faster” than the number are because it is a higher power. For example lim of n/n^2 approaches 0 because the denominator has a higher power. You can solve this by dividing the top and bottom by the highest power, so it would be come 1/n. And the lim as n approaches infinity of 1/n is one over a really big number which approaches 0
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What about harmonic series? It's a divergent series. 1+ 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 .....
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You can't prove that n^10/n! doesn't diverge with the divergence test as stated in 2:40 because lim an = 0 so it can still diverge ou converge. Or am I wrong?
Correct, divergence test is inconclusive!
Yes, divergence test has only two possible ending: the series diverges or the test is inconclusive.
Divergence test cannot be used to prove the convergence of a series.
You are right. For this video on the official website, there was a comment block that appeared right when he said it that wrote "The divergence test cannot be used for this case".
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They do. All the videos are on khanacademy.com. I suggest following the playlists.
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what happen if the limit of (n+1)th term over nth term doesn't approach to any value? We simply cannot use Ratio Test, can we?
Zerobyte Johnsons That's right. Using the ratio test requires that the limit actually exists and is a finite number.
thx dude, just wanna clarify.
1:40 I feel that if abs(r) = 1, the series STILL converges to the first term
I realize this is from 2 years ago so apologies for bringing it up now as its probably not relevant for you anymore, but I thought it was still a question that deserved an answer- more for the sake of anyone who's reading these comments now with similar questions.
If the ratio is 1, the sequence of terms would most certainly all be the same as the first term (since we're just multiplying by 1 each time), but what we mean when we talk about the convergence or divergence of a series is the *sum* of all of those terms. If the terms aren't approaching 0 as n --> infinity, then that sum can't be a finite number since you'll be continually adding new numbers to it (this is the idea behind the Divergence Test). In our case with r = 1, you're adding the same term over and over forever, so of course that infinite sum could only be written as being "equal" to infinity (in other words, it is a divergent series since the sum does not get closer and closer to equaling some finite number).
Basically, what you've pointed out is that the *sequence of terms* "converges" to the first term as n --> infinity, but this is different from the series converging to a finite number (which, as the Divergence Test will show, can only occur if that sequence of terms goes to 0 as n --> infinity.
@UCM74r8Kt9bGF4XPA61iFfVw I'm so glad it was helpful for you! It's definitely one of those things that I was incredibly happy to figure out for myself, I remember it being a big deal for me when that concept started to click. Are you in Calc 2 by any chance? Just curious, since that's where I was first introduced to this stuff (last semester for me)
I guess =1 can be a different case...but definately that tends to infinity thts why Divergent suits the more
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how do we decide when to write n=5, n=1 or n=0? I am kind of confused :S
it's given to you, becomes part of the question. Most will start at n=1 or n=0 for simplicity in finding a few initial terms
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I'm afraid I still cannot tell what it happening when you say that n is going to infinity. If n becomes infinity in both the denominator and the numerator of a fraction, isn't it just going to converge at 1 regardless?
Working with infinity and limits is weird, but basically the way it works here is the denominator in this case “approaches infinity faster” than the number are because it is a higher power. For example lim of n/n^2 approaches 0 because the denominator has a higher power. You can solve this by dividing the top and bottom by the highest power, so it would be come 1/n. And the lim as n approaches infinity of 1/n is one over a really big number which approaches 0
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I thought the ratio of a geometric series was An/An-1?
no, it is a1/(1-r)
and r is the common ration between terms
Just the same....Succeeding term divided by Preceding Term
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