The way I see it, if Disney wants to make movies based on cartoons, they should make more movies like Maleficent. I've only seen the first movie but I found this take on the story of Sleeping Beauty interesting. It wasn't just a remake, it had its own plot and the characters were unique too (except for the fairy godmothers, they felt uncanny). An even better example of this is Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. I know, it's a controversial movie, but again, it felt like its own thing centred around the original concept.
Considering they turnt the sea witch into a straight villain with the Disney version, I'd like a movie about how Ursula became one. I mean, in the Disney version, her implied old vendetta with Triton, explore it! That would be fun!
As a black person, who wants representation I have to agree with all you said. I really don't like that they raceswapped Ariel. Her design is so iconic and changing it only bring problems. I don't feel represented as a token character or if its forced in like that. They really should have created an original Mermaid and have her be Ariel's friend or sth, then there wouldn't have been any problem. We can't change it now so I would rather support it since the actress is getting so much hate, but they shouldn't have done it in the first place.
@@kenslycarpel3140 Okay, let's change her name in the movie to Gabriella. They can change in post production. You know what I found hilarious about the backlash to The little Mermaid, it finally got white girls to promote diverse books in some Booktube spaces. I know for a fact, they didn't care about these black authors and stories before, they realized they were being replaced in media. So they're not likely to support the movie about Gabriella the Mermaid.
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 Are you a white girl? If you knew white girls they aren't interested in anybody outside themselves. If you are another ethnicity, you have to lower yourself and put them in a sympathetic light ie. RRR.
🔱 I feel like a lot of the live action remakes are just cash grabs because they think that people aren't going to be interested in any new ideas, so they remake old ones that were already successful.
@@thatpanfairy7176 I feel like that's also part of the problem, but I meant that the companies only ASSUME that people won't be interested in any new ideas, not that people actually weren't interested in new ideas.
That is because they ARE pure cashgrabs. ...and easier to make then actually creating something new from scratch. They wanna make money mainly on nostalgia...which they fail with a lot. Screwed up all that was good about Mulan and took away her journey of becoming a hero, replaced it with a "wonder woman that was born with special powers, stronger than any men". Took away the personalaty and emotion from the Lion King (while showing amazing CGI). Aladin could have been so much better if Will Smith would have been allowed to be himself instead of copying our beloved Robin Williams (who can't be replaced anyway) etc. Now they race swapped Ariel to satisfy "woke" people. Which is even more ridicolous when you remember they make money with nostalgia in the remakes. It's not the same any more. I don't get why they dont create an movie based on a south american, arfican etc. story/fairy tail. I am sure there are plenty of great storys out there to tell and adapt! And I'm sure not only "black" people would love them, but "white" people would be thrilled to see them as well (as long as the characters are likable, you can feel with them, they have personality etc)!
@@Akefia The funny but sad part about the live action remakes is that they don't even do a good job at hiding the fact that they're cash grabs. They don't even try to make the movies good anymore, they just want to grab people's attention so they will watch, even if they're only watching it to see the uninspired trainwreck that a lot of those remakes are and make fun of them.
The only good ones are the Jungle Book and Christopher Robin but they're original stories for the most part JB being closer to the source material and CR being a sequel.
The thing is, if they wanted representation, Ariel canonically has latina best friend from the little mermaid tv show. They've added friends for the princess characters in their live action movies and even a useless sister in mulan so why not bring in a canon character that was a fleshed out character who's race was not her entire character. Gabriella was also deaf and has a cute little octopus friend that uses sign language with her and acts as her interpreter, but that wasn't her whole character. That's two counts of representation with a canon character without stepping on any toes by race bending Ariel.
We also got the original story which was an allegory to being a gay man, they could have made a whole new film more closely based on the story but made the mermaid(or more correctly merman) a gay man instead to represent the author I mean the only reason the film was set in Denmark is cause the author is danish, even tho the original story wasn’t set in any specific country
I love Gabriella. They should’ve given her more screen time and they should’ve given her her own movie. I don’t get me wrong. I love Ariel and I always will but Gabriella deserves love to.
I think that the whole changing her race thing is really just bringing into the spotlight the big problem with the remakes. They are changing the stories we grew up with and trying to pass them off as the same thing, when most of the time those things didn't need to be changed to begin with. Its the same problem I have with movie adaptations of books. They are soulless, they take and add with no respect for the thing they claim to be adapting or remaking.
Those stories already changed the original stories anyways, the original little mermaid was an allegory to being a gay man-the reason the mermaid didn’t get the prince and died is to represent the struggle the author went though with being a gay man who fell for a straight man , we simply don’t care cause those aren’t the stories we grew up with, we grew up with the story where Ariel did get the man and didn’t die essaintly taking away the gay allegory in it The Alice in wonderland remakes Disney made were interesting as they didn’t remake the Disney verison of it they focused more on making a new interruption for the original story, (granted I still much prefer Alice madness return over these films for a darker take on it) if Disney focused on making new interruptions of the fairytales instead of remaking the films themselves I think more people would be onboard-esp if they were to be legitmently darker with their themes and not just litrealy darker with their colorpallete to the point you can’t see anyone
That’s exactly it! I’m one of the white, red haired girls you mentioned towards the end of the video, and I remember when I was little absolutely adoring Ariel because she had red hair, and at the time, neither Brave nor Frozen had been released, so she was the only ginger princess (later on I learned looks don’t matter as much as character, but five-year-old me was pleased nonetheless). I have no problem with Halle playing Ariel (in fact, I quite like her costume design), but I agree with the sentiment of “giving the leftovers to the minorities.” That, to me, seems more unfair than letting them play in remakes and adaptions like this, when everyone deserves to have a story they can relate to in every aspect. Out of all the stories I wish Disney or any other animation/film company would establish, it’s The Wild Swans by Hans Christian Anderson. It’s not my favorite fairy tale ever (looking at you, Alice in Wonderland), but it’s such a great story anyway, and could easily be adapted to fit any culture, race, narrative or cast. Besides that, it’s just a really interesting story. I think a great original movie that “represents” a culture is Encanto. If Disney wants to do more of that, I’d say I’m all for it, because not only did it present Columbian culture extremely effectively, but it also grabbed us with a heartening story and interesting characters. It’s one of my recent favorite Disney films, and that’s coming from…well, a white red-haired girl with not much say in the matter. Anyway, this was a great video! I only found you recently (thanks to Cyrus the Great) but I’ve taken to binging all your content, and I’m happy to say I think I’ll stick around for a while ;)
As a redhead who didn't grow up with Little Mermaid and was around 9 or 10 when Brave was released, I absolutely loved Merida and was obsessed with her! She was my favorite princess when she came out! Later on, my hair turned less like Merida's firey red and more like a light brownish blondeish reddish like Anna's and I loved Anna's design in when I saw Frozen. Also, Giselle is a Disney princess too isn't she? She's a redhead!
As a white person, I agree. I mean this remake is just eh. They are taking from the original Disney movie and not just making it's own identity as you said! Take from the tail who has no physical appearance, don't steal from an already existing masterpiece who already has a appearance
To further emphasize, if it had its own unique take (like Maleficent or Cruella attempted, and Twisted did well), it wouldn't be stuck as "just another Little Mermaid remake".
yea, although if you made tianna white in uhh that movie- (forgot what its called lol) the movie would be 5 minutes long. that wont happen with the little mermaid tho.
@@NeutralBabyStrider Because Tiana is written to be a black woman, Ariel is a mermaid and she could be of any race (with this I don't mean that swapping characters races is right)
@@scarababbeo9733 mermaids can be any race but Ariel can only be white. Like how Spiderman can be anyone (even a pig) but Peter Parker can only be white. Hailey is great but I can't see Ariel. I see someone playing Ariel. Wouldn't want her playing Tiana either. I want someone who looks like the original and if they are white redheads then let them stay white redheads
I think it’s disastrous to anyone involved when you do race or gender swapping. It wants to rely off the fame of the white or male character, but also doesn’t seem to realize that it forces the minority character to compete against the already established character. Furthermore, I don’t want any handy me down characters. To me it’s kind of disrespectful and patronizing. Disney doesn’t sincerely care about race otherwise Tiana wouldn’t have been a frog her whole movie and they would have made an entirely new black character instead of race swapping. Heck, they could have even made the first black male lead. Disney just wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants to sound inviting to all but doesn’t sincerely want to risk having a black lead yet wants to be praised for making a movie with a black lead 🤦🏽♀️ Also I’m sick of remakes as well, it’s just lazy though judging from the trailer at least the soundtrack will be good
If they don't care about race, why do movies like The Emperor's New Groove still include characters with a different race despite the main lead becoming something else? Like I remember every other character in there being the same race not just the main lead, how about the other main character for example, or maybe I'm overthinking it....
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 I think no one complained about Naveen bc his race is made up. He’s from a fictional land. I mean he’s likely based off of a real race but since it’s left ambiguous it caused less drama. I think the marketing played a role too since Tiana was marketed as the first black Disney Princess but the fact that she was a frog for so long disappointed many. I mean I think the movie is fine overall and the soundtrack is good, but that she was a frog for so long was a bit disappointing to many
@@ShellySwirl Disney will make movies with other races of ppl if it turns a profit, but they definitely aren’t as open as they pretend to be. Black characters in Star Wars and Black Panther were heavily censored in China. Just look up the posters in China compared to in the U.S. They compromised their “stance” for profit. Also Tiana and Pocahontas were both given lighter skin and features (especially Tiana) in Wreck it Ralph until the actress who played Tiana complained and they finally fixed it Disney’s ultimate goal is to make money and they’ll pander to whoever if it ends in them making a profit. It’s sad but true, especially since I grew up with Disney but it’s just the reality 😔
The leftovers comment really makes great sense. Tiana was good black rep because she was an original character and her race, while not being part of her personality, was still partially relevant to the story due to the time period (she's meant to be a disadvantaged person with goals most can't imagine her completing, which a black woman would be during that time). She wasn't just leftovers, she was the grand Disney version of the classic fairy tale. And she was even more original, honestly. She wasn't a princess who kissed a frog and had him turn to a prince. She was just a woman. Her story is incredible and so is her prince. An original spin on a classic fairy tale with an interracial and mixed-class couple, with the relevance of her race being just enough to not make it seem like it's trying too hard but also not like she's being ignored, makes for the kind of story Disney is trying to sell this new little mermaid as. Halle's Ariel is just a way to get brownie points
@@that1sha405 Her time onscreen as a black woman doesn't matter much. You can gripe about it all you want but she's still most iconic and recognizable in her human form, she's still an actual original character while Ariel is just recycled, and she still was arguably one of the best princesses
@@that1sha405 if all that mattered was the physical appearance, then is anything good representation? Cuz if skin color is all that mattered, then what’s the point of rep? Reminds me of that white woman who complained that the show Moon Knight was bad representation for Egyptian ppl cuz they weren’t “dark” enough. Whereas most Egyptians loved it because it actually depicted the geography and culture of the country. What’s more impt? Are minorities nothing but their skin and white ppl have character?
But why couldn’t she stay human and black for the whole movie? Same for Naveen. It’s very suspicious they choose a fairy tale where the main black characters are non-human so we only see them black in the beginning and the last part of the movie?? And it’s nice to have a independent female character. But we’d also love a black woman being the damsel in distress sometimes and not just “the strong independent woman” who has so suffer and ask help from nobody. We are humans too, black women are like any other women. Sorry for ranting but these are just crumbs from Hollywood/entertainment industry. This is why I like to watch independent producers and studios besides mainstream. ✌🏾
🔱🫧 I completely agree with you, it really is a problem is when the industries put certain people or whole races down in order to elevate others. It IS possible to do the latter without having to resort to the former. 😑 For example, I have the most issue with the upcoming live-action Snow White. I'm latina, more specifically Guatemalan, born and raised. BUT I have really pale white skin and dark hair (yeah, it's annoying to me when people assume that ALL Latinamerican people HAVE to be brown. We too come in all shapes and colors, you know. 🙄). Anyways, ever since I was little, Snow White has always been the princess that has looked like me. I even got to play her in a school play because of how much I've always resembled her (even the fact that, back in the day, they didn't draw the princesses as skinny as now, and therefore Snow White was even a tiny bit chubbier than today's standards, same as me!). But now, this upcoming live-action, starting a girl who doesn't look at all like me, is too making me feel a tiny bit erased. And heck, I'm not a person who's ever put that much importance in representation either. But it still kinda feels like now they're taking this princess away from me. The original one will always be there for me to enjoy, but it still feels wrong to me. All in all, couldn't agree with you more: The best way to represent is giving people their own set of stories, not having them settle for anyone else's scraps. (That being said, to all the people who are still complaining about the live-action remakes: you're entitled to do it, but PLEASE do so while simultaneously supporting their ACTUAL original projects, such as 'Stange World' that's coming soon. If the original stuff keeps flopping, it won't help one bit in them stopping with the remakes. 🙏) Anyways, good on you for speaking your mind on this matter! Your opinions are always so interesting to listen to. Great video as always. 😊
Remember Snow White is a public domain character. If you think Disney gets the live action retelling wrong there many more out there you might relate to better, Snow White and the Huntsman. What ever Disney does it can't be worse than 2001's Snow White: the fairest of them all. It was very cheap.
I just hope that they do Ariel right as people often think that Ariel became human only because of Erik but because she was so curious about humans and their world that’s why she collects human things and that’s what Erik loves about her not because she’s a woman or that she’s pretty but who Ariel is as a person
And to be honest.... even if she had left the ocean because of him WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? Can't we like men anymore? I bet nobody would have ever said anything if she had became human for a woman right?
@@prata9740 I think ppl were mad because she basically ran away from home to be with him and then married and had his kid (which Ik was common with royality but still) I think they wanted ppl to realise that ditching your family to be with someone you barely know is wrong, like she only knew Eric a few days and she was like "I wanna marry this man and have his babies" like that's not something you show to kids
I hope they do that too, that's really sweet. I never seen the original, but judging by her design, it makes me think he only fell for her because she's hot XD I mean, I always hated designs in movies like that
@@Neo-Queenserenityt2l My point still stands, i'm completely sure none of these people would care about her leaving her family if she had done that for a woman. The character from the movie "Luca" isn't criticized even though he did basically the same. Oh yeah.... i guess it has something to do with the fact that he left his family because of another boy right? The hypocrisy.....
I have no problem with Ariel being black,and it warms my heart for little girls to see a mermaid just like them. I'm upset over the amount of people angry at the wrong thing. The problem isn't her being black. She can be black. She's a mermaid. I do not give a damn. And the actress has such a beautiful voice,I wish the best for her,she seems like a sweet person. People should be mad Disney keeps making remake after remake. The REMAKES are draining,not her new race. And I'm upset cause I've seen it,people will blame the movie being shit (if it is,kinda hope not) in her race and not in the fact Disney just doesn't do any effort,these are cashgrabs,sad upsetting cashgrabs.
I'm an old school comic book fan. As such you get used to live action and animated adaptations getting much wrong. It used to drive me crazy as a little kid watching the Incredible Hulk on tv knowing they got the main characters name wrong. All of Disney's animated movies change tons of details from their source material. For me it boils down to the quality of the production at hand. There are some things I can accept and some I can't. So far all of Disney's live action remakes have been awful. I have yet to sit through any of the few I began watching to the end. It's a shame they couldn't have come up with something original to showcase Halle's talent. I will admit I don't like the erasing of red headed white Ariel. She's an icon to millions of little girls with a 30 year history in modern culture. I don't think it's right to take away from one to give to the other either. It doesn't send the message we're all in this together.
I can say that even as a white young female with Asperger sydrome, my disability isn't what defines me, it is just a part of me. 💖 And honestly I would rather not have a representasion of Asperger's if it was done poorly or would give other people a negative perspective on Aspies as a whole.
I don’t like that if you say you don’t like Ariel being black they immediately say you’re racist. I don’t like this change because, aside that it’s being used to pushed Disney’s political agenda, it feels like everytime Disney does something like this Disney is saying: ‘Oh black people can’t succeed telling their own stories. Here! Take this white person’s story! Now I’ll make it big!’ It feels like Disney is saying telling black stories is not worth it and they are not worth to be listen to. I’m Latina and if Ariel was turned into a Latina I would be annoyed as well. Lately Latin-American culture has been done well with movies like Encanto and Coco. They are beautiful! Disney is absolutely capable to tell stories other than white, and by moves like this, it’s even more insulting that they are representing black people like this. I would say ‘Do better Disney’ but I’ve lost all hope in Disney.
I couldn't have said it better. Thank you for putting in words something that I could never quite explain. Growing up as a black girl, I had the same experience, so I feel you. I also totally agree that they should just create new stories for the minorities instead of the recycling they are doing now. It feels nice knowing I wasn't the only one to feel that way... I was starting to doubt myself 😅
I'm glad to see that you have the same opinion as me about the new little mermaid! People on tiktok are calling anyone who criticize the new ariel racist :/
I don't think black people should integrate in these white spaces anyway. Tyler Perry already showed us we can build our own studios and stream for ourselves. All he needs to do is HIRE talented people to fulfill these projects. I don't care for Hollywood. I want the African diaspora to fund Nollywood.
@@YanoLBP The same. Every fan creation that it is not made for spite, it's fine for me. For some reason, people can't distinguish between an official comercial product and something "for fans, for fun".
@@eugeniagomezguerra1802 I'd like to see a new movie adaptation more faithful to the book. Maybe not necesarily "dark", but just different enough from the Disney version. It would be nice.
I'm in the same boat. I'm black but I really don't care if the character I like is black or not (for example: I like Peter Parker far more than Miles Morales). And yeah, I hate it when people focus so much on a person's skin tone as opposed to judging based on character and personality.
@@poixses_ Miles takes influence from Peter and going off of Marvel's Spider-Man PS4, they are in the same universe (and even in the Ultimate Comics and Into the Spider-Verse, Miles did exist in the same universe as the Peter Parker who died. And even in the main comic, Miles is in 616).
"I'm Black" Well, I figured because of your avatar. Look, I don't care whether you're black or what kind of race you're coming from but one thing that is attached to me is that you have an open-mindedness when it comes to ranting about any cartoon or movies and sharing out the idea with us. Second, I enjoy your multiple of videos in the past and you made a valid point! So it proves that you're an amazing, wonderful artist, TH-camr, supporting, friend, etc (I can go on and on forever). Race doesn't define who you really are as a person. Anyway, your points are valid because you want to make a live-action movie based on their counterparts, not like changing the races. I feel like Ariel being black is just so wrong not to be offended because she's not the same girl we used to watch when we were younger. Don't get me wrong but Halle Bailey sounds very beautiful in the trailer if it's a different movie inspired by The Little Mermaid if it makes sense. Overall, I feel like this movie is going to be terrible.
THIS is why I disagree with Disney changing Ariel's appearance in the remake bc it is logical that you expect a physical/real-life representation that's similar to what the original counterpart is/was. They could've also made Eric or Triton be played by actors of color too; I remember when Christian Navarro was one of the actors who was considered to play Eric, Disney missed an opportunity there Watching this movie would also make me feel uncomfortable, knowing that Ariel already has certain characteristics that were not respected (pp: this has nothing to do w Halle)
Growing up I also never saw the need to feel 'represented' either. Though, to be fair I did grow up in Puerto Rico so I was brought up within the culture, surounded by people of all hues and shades more often than not speaking spanish, so for me cartoons were my way of escaping my mundane repetetive life by seeing and hearing folks from different corners of the world. Plus, my parents taught me to not always trust everything I saw on television, so for me it was an escapist fantasy, not where I could find validation for my existance. But, I suppose some folks in the mainland grew up with a different perspective, which can be hard cause it feels like Im some kind of 'traitor' for not caring as much about representation as they do.
I personally never paid attention to the life remakes. It feels so wrong to me. By making something realistic, you're bound to lose the expressiveness cartoon has. You cannot replace that. So I feel like realism could never hit you as hard as cartoons do. Additionally, I can't imagine how angering this must be to the people who animated the 2d movies. They spent so much time on making every animation look smooth. And now realistic movies feel like they're... Overwriting the hard work animators put into it. If I was affected by that, I'd be upset for sure.
I don't understand people who say that this movie is taking away from redhead representation, cause like she's still ginger in the live-action, obviously not as red as in the cartoon, but thats just because no one in real life has naturally red hair like that
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race. My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem.
You've basically said the same thing I've been saying to people talking about this. I have no issue with a black little mermaid, just not specifically Ariel. The original story never gave the mermaid a name or appearance (or personality really), so making this a new version entirely was a reasonable option. Or just not making another crappy live action remake of a classic animated feature, but here we are. I also don't particularly care for Ariel (she's kind of an irresponsible brat, endangered the world over a beef with dad and still got everything she wanted after everyone else cleaned her mess) and I haven't watched any of these remakes since Beauty and the Beast. They just disappoint me and tend to miss the point of the originals in their desperation to appeal to "modern audiences" or "fix" supposed problems from the animated movie that aren't actually problems. We just need new stories. There's room for everyone and I want to see stories from other cultures stand along side the well known European tales.
THANK YOU. . . . . I have similar thoughts on Ariel among other thoughts. I used to really like her as a child. But then I grew up and thought about her actions DX
Honestly I feel like people should create there own original stories instead of changing what is already made. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see more rep in shows n movies but that’s not the only thing that matters. People should create original content instead of changing what’s been there for years.
Except that when they do no one watches them or they complain on how it’s woke or how it’s cringe. Just last week a fancomic’s main black character was whitewashed. You guys don’t give a shit about original black characters at all
If they wanted a poc mermaid they could have used Gabriela, a deaf black mermaid from the Ariel tv show. Other options would be researching tales from other places, I'm brazillian and we have a mermaid from our folklore called Iara. I'm just tired of people praising Disney and other companies for racebending. It's the laziest type of representation, instead of putting an effort into creating new, interesting characters they just use the glory and love of a previous white character. It's so lazy.
Believe me when I say I had no intention of making the face look like surprised Pikachu. That was just a hilarious coincidence that i didn't even realize until someone said something about it lol
I wish Hollywood had more viewpoints like you. I don't mind more racial representation, but I don't want classics to get changed to get the "message" across. The other Disney remakes are terrible, but they at least get the general look of the main characters look like what their animated counterparts were. That's why the Little Mermaid is a new kind of bad. Give Ariel a black mermaid friend or something, because I don't see Ariel from the trailer.
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. I honestly don’t think race swapping is the thing, but the fact that gingers keep getting swapped is pretty telling. Just pick a blonde or a brunette if ya gotta swap them! You don’t have to swap the red heads! No one is holding you up like, “I swear, if you don’t swap that red head I’m gonna do it!” Although, they don’t have to do remakes either, but whatever. I’ve pretty much given up on Disney for good quality content. I’ve already joined my fellow anime nerds😋. It gets weird, but at least I can enjoy it.🤷♀️
Yeah, it's annoying and worring me that I'm seeing so many redheads being turned into people with another characteristics that aren't redheads, and very oddly latelly they're specifically turning them into black people in the majorityof times (from what I've seen). You can't make more representation erasing another representation! That doesn't work like that! This is swapping not adding. Also, it seems very selective. It seems like they're picking all redheads and turning them into black characters or changing them into not redheads. Also, its oddly specific that they're turning redheads specifically into black people lately, it could be any other character that they changed and it could've be changing redheads into any other characteristics but it's almost always a redhead being changed into a black character lately (from what I've seen) and I wonder why. Now it's a pattern. I already saw many stories now swapping redheads for black people when they could've swapped a white character or created a new character. In one remake they created a pink (literally the colour pink for skin) girl and turned a redhead into a black character when they could've both, keeping the redhead and putting a relevant black character. It could be very cool. Just to make clear to avoid misunderstandings: I have no problems with black people or any other ethnic group, on contrary, I love diversity, it is great and makes the world entertaining and very colorful and full of diferent POVs and appearances, my artististic soul loves to explore those differences as well. It gives life to live. Also, not like it's a great argument since you admiring someone (real or character) doesn't make you immune to prejudice, but: Static Shock is my favorite super hero as well as some of my favorites super heros are Green Lantern John Stewart, Black Panter and Spider Man Miles Morales. I also love Tiana. I love Gus from the Owl House too. What's is worrying me is the apparent selective erasure of redheads. I really hope that it's not happening but it seems like what's happening, for now at least. I really hope that they stop thinking that they can just swap or change a minority or underrepresented group into another minority or underrepresented group and count it like representation (and in some works they even keep a cast of "not so much representative characters" intact while changing the characters that are minority or part of an underrepresented group and they call it (or try to make it seem) like they're putting more diversity and representation into the work). That's... worring. I hope not to cause any misunderstanding, I would love that more people can feel representated but I hate that they're doing it in a half baked way and half done and erasing others while at it instead of adding it into what they already have. Also my main language is not English and I'm not used to express my more complex thoughts in English so I may not have been all clear about what I meant, if so, I apologize. It's not my intention to offend anyone. I hope that in the future EVERYONE can feel themselves being well representated and valued in stories (and irl too).
You're so right! I'm not really a big fan of disney movies, but since the first live adaptation movie I was thinking like "whatever", because it was a story I already know. (I mean it's a different thing when you read a comic or book and than watching the movie as you watch the same story as a cartoon version and than the live adaptation version) Even good point to shout out the old "forgotten" disney movies like for example Atlantis. This would be cool and a great chance to bring these stories to the people!
Yeah Atlantis would probably look cool as a remake considering it wasn't well known at the time and didn't do well at the box office. Does it NEED a remake? No. But there's more of a justification for it~ ^_^
I don’t think it matters if one character is a different race from the other but Disney should be more careful with changing a universe from its original elements that make a story unique but mistakes are normal we are human 🔱
Honestly this is such a breath of fresh air. I generally don't have much opinions on the remake nor do I care that much but seeing someone with a different and nuance perspective is so refreshing Also I really love the part where you talk about other people being put down, as a minority (specifically queer) it always bothered me so much. You don't need to uplift people by pushing others down!! Just treat them as equal and put emphasis on them as people, not their remarks Also extra edit I just absolutely adore your points about changing a characters' race. I've always heard that you're bigoted if you don't like it and I absolutely disagree. I really hate it and hearing someone with that same perspective as me is really wonderful:))
i personally don't agree with the criticism to disney for the casting, as someone who acts it should never be about how you look, the person casted needs to be the person who can best act the role. we can't know that she was casted over white people because she is black unless Disney releases their true intentions with the casting. i don't want majorities to be put down to uplift minorities, i believe in total equality between groups but i also believe in the power of representation and i anticipate that the new ariel will show that she deserved this role on her merit. i think that this will make a lot of black children happy to see, as evident by the trailer it already has. for this reason in my opinion, as long as the acting and performance for the role is good i am happy with the Disney casting. as for erasure, the live action movies usually don't come out as beloved as the animated version. i think the classic red-haired ariel will be just fine. it's fun to see how everything will play out in live action but everyone knows and loves the classic ariel and i truly don't believe someone that iconic could be erased like that. the good thing about animated movies is that the character can look however with the actor looking completely different, but in live action sometimes choosing the right actor means that they will not meet the appearance of the original. as ive stated, in my opinion appearance shouldn't matter, if you go in with the right mindset of just judging the merit of the actor instead of appearance it will likely turn out a better experience. what it all comes down to is its just not a big deal. i hope ive expressed that well enough here, that whether you like the choice or don't in the long run it really doesn't matter. it's an interesting topic for a peaceful discussion and i like hearing people's reasonable views on it because id never considered that people wouldn't like it for the reason of her not looking like classic ariel.
I agree with you. I don't have a problem with the live action Little Mermaid casting differently raced actors than the original. I will only have a problem if Disney starts to market their new characters as being better than the old ones and try to erase them from history, which is very unlikely to happen since all past live action remakes have never replaced the old characters so I highly doubt that will happen with Ariel. I believe most people will just live happily with two different Ariels in the Disney cannon.
When it comes to changing only the skin color of a popular character, for representation, without changing anything else about their story, or personality, I remember what a black youtuber said: At the end of the day when people think of that character, they'll think of the original version, not the fanart or remake they've done, so in the end it's not really representation. And I don't know, it left me thinking a lot, I think they had a point, like for example, Black Panter is important for many, because of his ethnicity and skin color, but also because he is his own person and character, it is not an adaptation of anyone else, it is something original and memorable.
Honestly, I feel like if disney gave a fuck about representation, they'd make a NEW black Disney princess, with her OWN stories, and her own animal best friend! Disney literally did less than the bear minimum on this 💀they don't care.. before this, live action remakes were just seen as cash grabs anyways. (Ex. The live action lion king) ((((keep in mind im busy so i didnt watch the video, i was just excited people have similar views)))) someone can like the remake, but I won't be praising it for representation when Disney has the money + people to create something amazing..
I think that this actually can be tied into a bigger question of how many liberties a person is allowed to take when adapting something. For example, there's always going to be the challenge of deciding what to cut from a book when adapting it into a movie, but you can cut and even change things in a movie adaption in order to make the story flow better in a shorter amount of time without compromising what made the original book so good in the first place. Looking at the world of comics, most well-known characters have gone through too many changes to count throughout their lifetime. At one time, Batman walked around with a gun on his hip. However, even though that is part of Batman's history, if someone wanted to adapt that version of Batman today, people would not be happy. On the other hand, people don't seem to care as much if lesser-known characters are changed. Mr. Freeze used to be a generic C-tier Batman villain, but then, Batman: The Animated Series reinvented Mr. Freeze as a tragic character who is just looking for a way to cure his cryogenically frozen wife, no matter the consequences. That interpretation of Mr. Freeze became so popular that it became canon in the comics. So, even though the adaption drastically changed the character, it ended up being a positive change. I think the solution is finding the line between allowing creators to make changes that they think are beneficial and honoring the source material while keeping the expectations of the fans in mind. The problem is that this is easier said than done.
Imagine a world in which Hollywood and Disney in particular create a whole bunch of unique and original black characters all with their own story. Not only would people of color receive the representation they deserve. On top of that no one could complain about race swapping, double standards and a general lack of creativity. And if the writing is good even the bubble which inevitably will call it woke will shrink to a much, much smaller size. Black people get what they want, white people keep what they have, and everyone enjoys high quality entertainment instead of pointlessly fighting each other. Everyone wins.
I enjoyed this vid. I am tired of them making skin color a big deal and race swapping characters. Not just Disney but all of Hollywood. What should matter is the character themselves as a person. Anyone can enjoy a character regardless of skin color and many shows and movies have proved this time and time again but they're too busy treating people like they're racists in situations like this when that's not the problem. It's wrong to reduce a person to only their skin color, it doesn't matter whether you dislike them or if you put them on a pedestal because of it. It's wrong either way.
Just imagine how great it could have been if they did a sequel with Melody's daughter who could have been a new character with a new, but related story. Could made the daddy any phenotype you wanted. Maybe Melody became a great sea faring explorer and fell in love with a noble pirate or a merman from another kingdom,. I would love an expanded au for some Disney stories. Although I do have a bit of a weakness for continuing fictional family trees.
I don't hate the live-action Disney remakes. There are some that I genuinely like (Cinderella, The Jungle Book, and Aladdin). I don't mind the remakes, so long as they are entertaining. However, I do understand why people don't like them. Most of them are pretty much the exact same movie as the original animated classics with the only differences being throw-away lines that "fix the issues" of the originals. For example, in the live-action Beauty and the Beast, Belle asks the servants if everything in Beast's castle is alive and tries to talk to a hairbrush, only for her to find out it's just a hairbrush. It seems pretty clear that the only reason that this short exchange between Belle and the servants exists is to address a nitpick that some people have with the original, that nitpick being whether or not Beast had any furniture prior to being cursed since every piece of furniture seems to be alive. At the same time, I don't think that some of the critics out there are helping with this problem. For example, I heard one critic asking why Pinocchio was getting a remake when the original animated movie is considered a timeless classic, but then, when the movie came out, he asked why they cut so many classic scenes and songs from the original movie in the live-action remake. I think that this is exactly why Disney is not making drastic changes to their live-action remakes, because people complain if they aren't exactly the same as the timeless classics.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about the "original" movie which isn't really original. Disney didn't write Little Mermaid, they just made their own version based off a 200-300 year old Hans Christian Anderson fairytale. Do I like their version? To be honest I hate Ariel's design and think that old Disney movies are super cheesy, even though I personally have never seen it, nor grew up with movies like that. I'm one of those 2000s kids who grew up with every kids cartoon on tv but barely watched any Disney movies, as a kid -I could name everything from PBS kids, to the Qubo channel- . I honestly don't care what skin color they give her, she's a mermaid. If I were to design her I'd put some fins on her hands too, or maybe do something to make it look like she's underwater for a long time. I don't want to give hate on the Disney cartoon Little Mermaid to much, but I absolutely despise her design and don't understand why people are so ignorant not to realize what was wrong with their "Childhood favorite" and then cringe at some early episodes of SpongeBob. My point is, Disney shouldn't have to make their remake princess look exactly like the 2D chick, because that's what remakes are. They changed Cinderella's design in the 2016 remake (which in my opinion is super underrated -idk who can watch a movie form 1950 anyway-) to look more like the time period and setting, and the actress who plays her did an amazing job. The original Little Mermaid is supposed to be about prejudice, toxic people preventing a girl from loving someone who looks different, not about a topless underage bimbo simping for a Kpop prince (sorry I had to roast them like that, I didn't grow up with the movie). Also, I understand so many people grew up and loved the original, I can't really see why, I think it's the movie cheesiest movie ever, especially after hearing that she's canonly 16 years old! (Why do they draw her body like that? And make her wear "sexy" outfits?) Disney's gotten a lot better at animating and designing teen characters, especially for Brave, Encanto, and Turning Red. I'd probably have different opinions about the first Little mermaid movie is their designs looked different and if I watched it and enjoyed it as a kid, but since I grew up watching SpongeBob and Max & Ruby, I can't see why so many people are angry about the new Ariel's skin color, but not the fact that they have a 16 year old girl wear nothing but seashells. I guess I'm too modern? also, btw I grew up as a redhead and I was young when Brave came out (probably about 9 or 10) and I thought Merida was so awesome! Like I said, I had other cartoons with pretty redhead girls so I didn't feel like a minority
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race. My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem. Yes, Disney didn't create the little mermaid, but they did create Ariel. BUT TO BE HONEST, I would rather have Disney or any company produce a high production version of the original fairytale. I like the original little mermaid WAY more than Disney's version.
@@TheArtisticAloubell You're right on that one I guess. I don't know much about the original or the Disney version, i assumed that she had a name in the original story, but you could give her whatever name you want. (I have a little fairytale series I was planning on doing, and I named the Little Mermaid "Elizabeth" and instead of Briar Rose for Sleeping Beauty, I named her "Rosie" to sound cuter) Oh I also agree with you there! I don't like old Disney movies! I actually like Ponyo, which is a Ghibli movie based off the Little Mermaid, but they used their own creativity, made her younger, and removed the romance. It was actually more similar to Luca but more magical. But I totally agree, Disney does a good job with their original stories (like Encanto and Luca) but when it comes to remakes and doing their own versions of fairytales/other stories, they don't do as well. No hate on Tangled or Chicken Little, but I would prefer a smaller company that does something closer to the story. Disney sometimes goes to far to "impress" people.
Live action story idea: Alice in Wonderland, but it's faithful to the source. The only main change is at the end, when Alice is revealed to just be a really young child with no real imagination set up yet and her older sister is just sitting there, a mix of confused and terrified.
I don’t really care what live action Ariel looked like. I feel like it’s not taking away from white red haired girls because the original still exists. Ariel can be for both groups. I see it like a multiverse type of Situation like some series have for different generations of the show/movie/brand. But I definitely agree Disney should adapt new fairytales instead of remaking old princess. It would be met with less backlash and give light to other cultures stories (if well researched). Plus like give us new stories please you can’t expect us to be excited when we already know the plot.
I don't get what it is about race swapping that makes me so uncomfortable. Maybe it's the fact that most of the race swapping I've seen ends up making a character fall into a stereotype of that race they have been made into e.g the Amphibia fandom race swapping Sasha,a German/Slavic girl who is someone with a temper,control issues and parental problems,into a black girl? Maybe it's the fact that some people raceswap characters,erasing them and the representation certain minorities got from them and passing off the race swapped character as representation e.g the firebenders from Avatar:The Last Airbender,who were Japanese coded in the cartoon,were made Indian in the live-action movie or,ONCE AGAIN! The Amphibia fandom race swapping Marcy,who was Taiwanese, into a black girl.I don't really know,but I know for sure that I do not like it. People of colour deserve better,original characters,not someone else's sloppy seconds. Like I'm Zimbabwean and only God knows how long we Africans have been waiting for an African Disney princess. There is so much folklore and so many myths that can be adapted pretty well into animated movies from all across Africa. Anyway,Great video Aloe. Very well made and with many good points!😘😘
Personally I’ve never been a fan of race swapping gender swapping or sexuality swapping I see it as oh we could give you an original characters but that’s to much work so we’re just going to change the race/gender/sexuality and call it a day. People are always saying oh but it’s cute when you show them it and they say it’s just like me. Well what’s going to happen when they search up the characters and realize that the character wasn’t made like they were being shown. They’ll think they’ve been lied to.
Personally, this movie does have me upset with the way Americans are basically hypocrites with this one. Like, for one, it is factually whitewashing as whilst her race was never outright stated in the novel, she actually is based off of the North-west European myth of the Undine which does depict them as pretty Nordic European looking maidens. By folklore canon if you can call it that, she is white. It's a Danish author and a book important in Danish culture, that's inspired by legends from the author's culture. What's so difficult to understand about it? Which brings me to the Americans, who A, would have cancelled this movie if it had been blackwashing, B, called the Danish racist for pointing out the story is important to their culture that just happens to be white, C, literally use arguments organizations like BLM complain about all the time- 'White people doing their culture better,' as I seriously got a reply from an American who was saying they were taking European shit and making it better on a black TH-camr's channel discussing the movie and D, often bring up mermaids from around the entire world with a common example being the Japanese Ningyo- when those aren't like western mermaids at all. Ponyo is inspired by a Ningyo, do you think she looks like Ariel? Different cultures have different depictions of what is considered a 'mermaid'. Don't even get started on how some even started insulting the Dutch because for some reason Americans have my culture as their default setting for a North-West European country other then England when they don't actually know which North-Western European culture they're speaking about. It's a serious thing that's been happening since centuries, hell our English name even refers to the Germans, we just call ourselves Nederlanders whilst the Germans refer to themselves as the Deutsch. The internet exists nowadays people, why do (mostly) Americans continue to make this mistake and just blame it on us Dutchfolk? The hypocrisy and the insults is where I drew the line with this movie. She's white, and they're blackwashing her to pander to the woke crowd. Imagine insulting two entire cultures and calling them racist simply because they're trying to point out the hypocrisy behind it all.
I ( an Arab) agree with most of what you said but to be fair in the grims tails Ariel’s tongue is cut off and the prince doesn’t even marry her he married someone else so Disney was never really true to the real story
I WISH a big studio would finally animate/do a movie telling the actual story of the little mermaid. I like the original story better than the disney one >_
I'm with you. Any little mermaid by any film studio or book author can be any color and it's beautiful. But Ariel is an established character that have merchandise, appear in movies and so many games for years, therefore the live action should be close to the cartoon character itself. And as you can see, no good things happen after the teaser. The people who prefer the original vs race fanatics arguing, screaming racist everywhere. More double standard happening, like artists recoloring ariel old animation to black can get away with it, while the new teaser movie edited to white get suspended. Even Halle start blocking people and her tlm fandom over a little fuss. It become a hot mess right now.
The beginning literally scared me like: What's the secret? You: I'm black Me: Oh...that's kinda obvious. ya know your avatar? Anyways I never thought about that but I totally agree
We all humans but with different skins colours and the same insides so what's the point. ugh people now days. I am with The Artistic Aloubell - 01:13 Identity and Representation 03:19 A SAD Racial Apology.
You know the whole argument of people telling black folks to make their own movies, is that, back people have BEEN making their own movies. It's just people are biased towards their own content like Riverdale, 90210, Gossip Girl etc. I was watching That's So Raven, Girlfriends, Cousin Skeeter etc. around this time. Look at Emily in Paris which won the award over I May Destroy You, which doesn't speak to white people and that's okay but we can make an original movie about a black mermaid... but original movies tank at the box office. Investors at Disney didn't want to take a chance on a flop like Queen of Katwe starring Lupita Nyongo so Disney probably flipped once they got their money and said they would cast the best actress.
As long as they don't make Ariel a simp ('cos she wasn't and I'll be happy to explain it to anybody who disagrees) I don't really care what this girl's race is.
just now i thought of one thing, redheads represent 1% to 2% of the world population so does that mean they left one minority aside to raise the other? (sorry for my bad english)
I'm a mix person so me hearing about all the support for the community remakes is exhausting for me. I'm not fully black and I had to struggle to find a place to fit in for most of my life. I don't see Disney or any other company showing people like me any recognition for us and we're just existing in the background. If people like me were to be represented I would like it to be a original character and not color washing a known character. That way it's like showing that we are here and we are our own people.
Oh, and BTW, thank you for pointing out snow white because that that one makes me mad that one really kicks me off and I don’t get me wrong but they tried to do the area or really ticks me off too but the snow white thing yeah that one really ticks me off especially because she was the first Disney princess.
I like a few other people could care less if there was a black mermaid based off the movie but not Ariel. Just the basic princess mermaid wants to see the surface and fall in love is fine just make her different. Personality wise also. I would also like the movie to be different in some major way or why would I care for this new Ariel when I already have the exact same character that I grew up with. I like the remakes when they aren't 1:1 the same story. Unless it is Mulan. I hated the live action movie so much. Good video! Edit: Grammar
Totally agree! Thank you! A doll artist on YT came under attack for repainting a thrifted Ariel doll and was told it was wrong of him to be doing the OG Ariel at this moment in time.
Also, if I had a choice I'd rather see the sequel for treasure planet than another live-action nostalgia induced cash and grab. Disney had planned to make it shortly after the first movie but after the box office wasn't as spectacular as they hoped, they dropped the project all together.
@@ceeford9919 I'm saying people keep using the phrase: create your own movies and I am pointing out there is a sea adventure story starring POC. The narrative of "create your own" seems like gaslighting because we have BEEN creating our own. People just prefer to see themselves on screen. You not going to convince white people to support a good story by a POC unless they are the main character like Grey's Anatomy or Bridgerton - all Shondaland productions because she knew she needed a Trojan Horse. White women, especially don't see properties outside of themselves unless its forced upon them like To Kill A Mockingbird at school.
Short answer to the title: no Anything that isn’t Ariel walking like she’s being stabbed, probably blonde, and with her dying cause she made the wrong choices is gonna be “against the original” anyway so whatever. Long as King triton is the real guy with an arc like in the last Disney movie it’s a remake of the Disney movie. Simple. But damn I wish norm Lewis was still doing triton for this. Would even work great for matching Ariel to the white audience
I'm so glad someone finally spoke out about this in such a nice, respectful way. I hated that they replaced Ariel with a "minority" because honestly, this is an insult to every party. Red headed girls, Ariel herself, black people, etc. It's so sad that Disney just wants to make cash off of beautiful, wonderful movies made with love. Oh, and I love your adorable art style!🔱
Black people can be redheaded so how is this an insult to red heads and Ariel? Ariels hair color isn't even a possible haircolor irl.. if the actress is possible of reenacting ariels personality then how is it an insult to both ariel, and redheads? Make it make sense
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 your really fucking hilarious you know? You always like to put words into people's mouths then when they go about to debunk you, you don't even respond.
@@ayeeele 1. Yes black people can be redheaded, but guess what we aren’t talking about black redheads we’re talking about white redheads. 2. “Ariel’s hair color isn’t even a possible hair color” doesn’t matter if her hair color can’t exist in the real world, she may not been an actual redhead but she had red-hair, so obviously some redhead girls would feel connected to her in some way. 3. This probably feels like an insult to *white* redheads because their representation is being taken away from them *again* and given to another group (honestly I wouldn’t even consider a black Ariel representation but whatever). The way a character looks is still very important in my opinion (if Ariel was casted with a blonde actress I would still be very pissed), Halle is a very talented actress and I wanna make that clear, but I wish they casted a white red-haired girl instead in place for Ariel and casted Halle as an original black Disney princess, maybe even tiana! I would’ve loved to see Halle act as Tiana, as The Princess and the Frog is super underrated and deserves more attention.
How is Disney erasing Ariel if the 1989 animated film featuring a white Ariel still exists on DVD and on Disney+? A black Cinderella played by Brandy in Rodgers & Hammerstein’s “Cinderella” (1997) doesn’t erase a white Cinderella played by Julie Andrews in Rodgers & Hammerstein’s “Cinderella” (1957).
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race. My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem. Like I mention in the video, characters like Cinderella, Rapunzel, Little Red Riding Hood, and others can look however because they've been interpreted in so many ways throughout history--they don't have an official look. Likewise, The Little Mermaid can look like anything BUT Ariel, who is super specific, can not...or rather, should not. If it were an original character, I wouldn't say anything. Representation is great! But create original characters for them and not race-swap old ones. We shouldn't say "well, it's better than nothing." Standards should be higher than that. Let a pre-established character have their qualities and create new ones for us to love. Everyone deserves originality and respect. Maybe Halle did get the role just on pure talent. Idk. But the current political climate makes it hard to know the exact agenda of everyone. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, unfortunately. >__
Here's my point of view, i'm not too fond of Ariel who happens to have a skintone of dark tan, but i'm not overtly bashful about it, i just want a character who brings whatever to the table. And yes, I'm a person who happens to be African too, and to be frank I just like to be part of the crowd who likes to do things for fun and not forcing to be a workaholic or being a reflection of representation when all of the people has something to watch, so no amount of strawman arguments can convince me otherwise.
I agree, and it’s even with the newer marvel movies- their becoming more about feminism then story and growth, for example: she-hulk, her character was AWFUL, she had no growth, she didn’t care about the well-being or needs of the citizens, she was too hooked upon the ‘feminism’ build, she was to overpowered and strong- she didn’t have flaws with her strength unlike the OG hulk- he was claiming to where he was, he had depth- she-hulk had none of that, she got her powers and right away she could use it to a full extent. I personally don’t care that the Ariel live-action was black, she looks amazing she’s wonderful, but- I still few Disney could’ve made a new story like the little mermaid with a main black character, and like you said- she could’ve had a different name to not erase the og. AGAIN THESE ARE MY OPINIONS SKSKSKKSKSKS
I don't care about the little mermaid's race being swapped, I just want whoever is playing her to slay the vocals, but it's Halle so I already know she's about to kill it
And the fact that the new Ariel will have more girl power and female empowerment and won't be defined by needing a man or relying on a man's love in response to Ariel being a typical damsel in distress, the remake is going to clobber the original.
@@jonnyboy4289 Honestly my issue with the animated film was how Ariel gave up her special interest in human culture for Eric because the plot seemed more focus on pursuing romance than pursuing knowledge. I hope the remake puts an emphasis on Ariel’s special interest in human culture by showing Ariel apply her decades worth of knowledge on land. Perhaps like in “Beauty and the Beast”, Prince Eric loans Ariel his library so she can get her questions answered. If “Fever Pitch” can show that Ben can have his special interest in the Boston Red Sox AND his love for Lindsey, then the live action remake of “The Little Mermaid” can show that Ariel can have her special interest in human culture AND her love for Prince Eric.
I love the way you color eyes ✨️ I sometimes feel bad for having this same sentiment because I'm also black and when I tell people this I'm seen as less black or "for the other team" or a "pick me" person. I'm sorry my views don't align 😅
It seems to me that Disney is erasing everything that has to do with Walt or alter it in some way and I know what you're going to say The Little Mermaid wasn't made by Walt but the concept was and placed into the vault and later released!🔱
I’m actually glad someone else who is also black is talking about this for so long it’s always been the same people praising this decision (by same I mean not black and usually white [not that that’s bad obviously]) Edit: forgot the trident 🔱
You know what I found hilarious about the backlash to The little Mermaid, it finally got white girls to promote diverse books in some Booktube spaces. I know for a fact, they didn't care about these black authors and stories before. So they're not likely to support the movie about Gabriella the Mermaid. Original movies tank at the box office. Investors want their money back.
@@suzygirl1843 I remember watching a disastrous video saying that if you critique a show with minorities in it you just hate that minority. I think they think they’re “helping” but really it just comes off as preachy and ignorant
@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie Well, I think that when there's actual equal opportunity its a problem for you. I think you're deflecting most of the time and circumventing your own biases. People DO have prejudice - the same white people complaining about Halle were okay with making Queen Latifah's Ursula because she is a negative stereotype of black women like Kanye West says, so your opinions mean little to me because you want minorities a specific way that pleases you - even if you don't realize it.
@@suzygirl1843 if you representing us do it because you care not because you want twitter points also it’s not just me most black people are against the changes
@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie Those little girls on Tik Tok weren't. Nick Fury, The Boys' Black Noir and A train race changes were fine with white boys. I think white girls are the ones who are territorial while white men are more generous and open minded. Black women never should've joined the Feminist movement.
The thing about Disney is that they counted on Halle Baily getting hate. They want to milk the live action remake trend for as long and as often as they can, and the only way to do that now is to distract everyone with bigger drama. They're martyring her by kicking up as much fuss as they can. And it's working, any legitimate skepticism people voice over the other questionable changes to the story are drowned out by this single change. All of these movies as a whole are really bad, but they make a lot of money, and they're not going to stop until Disney finds more IP to ruin.
To be honest I stopped caring about the live action movies. But I was quite honestly surprised by people who felt blindsided by the upcoming live action little mermaid movie. Since a few years ago in the same year or year after the live action Cinderella movie came out, I'm pretty sure Disney went out and said that Halle will be playing Ariel, so this has been planned for a long while.
I think they realized that Tiana is a frog for 80% of her movie, which won't be justified in live action and that would offend folks so they racebended on of the others who weren't human.
I feel like it changes a lot about representation.. but it doesn't really matter. I don't have a problem with Ariel being black other than its weird that it has changed to me I've grown up knowing the look of the characters but I also feel like they're just trying to erase the older one . (Ariel = has her own traits probably should look like her) (idk but I agree with you I'm not racist and do not support any racism but I can get why being black isn't a personality taking somethings Identity and changing it is weird . but I think the new remake may be a cool one but we'll see!) (🫧🔱) (holy shit I was the first comment 🤨🤨)
Can't really be erasing anything if the old one is still there. The MCU doesn't erase the original comics. The new iterations of TMNT, Monster High, and Ducktales don't cancel out their predecessors. The Disney Reboots don't erase the classics. They just tell a similar story.
Marvel and DC, I think, are exceptions to the rule given their long history of having multiple universes and characters can look however. Ideally, though, race-swaps of any kind just wouldn't happen. And most of the things you mentioned didn't change the race or something super inherent to the character. Personalities might have been altered, styles, and maybe fashion changed, but changing someone's race is a different thing entirely. It's just feels icky to me and super lazy. If they just gave the mermaid a different name I wouldn't have a problem.
@@TheArtisticAloubell Nothing wrong if it's a you problem. Race after all is a social construct made by Angelo-Saxxons in the 1600's in order for them to have the power. It's one of the many reason why I don't really care about race swapping unless it affects their ethnicity which it this case, it really doesn't. One thing you gotta know about reboots is that it instantly is a separate universe. Not just for Marvel or DC, but the same goes for TMNT, Monster High, Ducktales, and whatever. Monster High has G1, G2, and G3. TMNT has 1987, 2003, 2012, 2018, and the upcoming 2023. Ducktales has 1995 and 2017. The Little Mermaid now has 1985(I think?) and 2023. This is another universe separate from the classic. Same goes for any Broadway adaptation. On Broadway, Ariel has been played by many different people of many different backgrounds inckuding Au'ili Cravalo who you might know as the voice of Moana. The classic version of Ariel isn't going anywhere. It's still on Disney+ or 🏴☠️🦜☠️ right next to the original Lion King or Aladdin.
That comment that you made about Ariel has to be Ariel makes absolutely no sense. Just because her skin isn’t pale that doesn’t make her any less Ariel. Let’s say Ariel was casted as a white woman, but she was more overweight. You guys would still complain. There are black girls who are born with red hair. Ariel just have to have a beautiful singing voice and the red hair. If the Disney parks can have both black Cinderella and white Cinderella they can do the same for Ariel. And this is coming from a ginger. The whole thing about redheads won’t get to see themselves is kinda hypocritical. Og Ariel is still here she never left. This is the first time that a live action movie in Disney is actually going to be AMAZING. The characters a fish for god sakes.
I think my comment makes perfect sense. I have original characters of my own, and if someone changed their race, even if their race isn't a focal point of their story, I would be upset. Characters have unique looks and personalities. Ariel is her own character. She isn't just ANY little mermaid. She's Ariel. Make a new little mermaid with a new name and new identity. Like I said, I don't care about the race of a mermaid, I care about Ariel's race. I care about Ariel's look. Characters deserve to be respected when they are unique. Want a black mermaid? That's great! Give her her own name. That's just my take on the matter.
@@TheArtisticAloubell I completely understand what you mean and I agree to a point. but society has a pattern of doing this poc characters. Why is it when it happen to white leads everyone throws a fit. Is suddenly okay. No. Ariel spirit is what made her character. Just because she 3 shades dark, doesn’t make her any less Ariel. No one complain when Cinderella was made black with Brandy’s version. And believe it or no Cinderella it just has high in popularity. I want original princess. Yes. But with how Marvel and DC treats their poc it’s no wonder Disney doing this. I didn’t mean to come across rude. That was never my intention.
@@amandabradford576 it's different with Cinderella because she never had an official look and has looked different ever since her inception. Ariel, on the other hand, is a modern original character with an established look. (The original little mermaid was not Ariel and she can look like anything). And I would be upset with any race being swapped. Original characters deserve the respect to look like themselves, not just keep their personality. But in any case, I once again appreciate you being civil and peaceful about this. Thank you!
I'd like to mention that the little mermaid from the original story does actually have a discription of what she looks like, yes she's white but that's because she's Danish and a very culturally important character with a statue of her in Copenhagen which is beautiful. I love Princess and the frog and wouldn't want her to be race swapped either (I'm not going to use names because I'm bad at spelling) I don't like race swapping at all
YES! This was what I've been thinking! I've been looking at this movie with furrowed brows- I wouldn't mind if they made the Little Mermaid black, IF they made their own new spin, a new 'Little Mermaid' who is not Ariel- a Little Mermaid with a different personality and motivations. Heck, I think that'd even be more interesting, at least they'd be giving fans something new :/
Hey Aloubell. Which Disney princess would you like to be for one day if you had the chance? For me it would be Merida. Archery is my favorite. Love your videos. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍♥️
What’s sad is that this film is likely going to be on Disney+, yet will not add their Roger’s and Hammerstine’s Cinderella or Fillmore to Disney+ which were unique, diverse and had strong black characters that took center stage. Disney used to present representation by giving other characters of different races their own story and characters. Now, Disney just wants to give the minorities and women sloppy seconds.
I was so mixed. At first, I was surprised because the news said Disney is not having a red headed white Ariel. It is the “it wasn’t in the book” argument. Than I got over it. When I heard Halle Bailey got the role, I was excited because her voice is great and her acting skills are good. Some say they wanted her to be Tianna. Anyways, again, I was excited. Than I heard it was a hoax and did not know what to believe. And there a bunch of comments stating that you don’t have a lot of representation for red headed girls and erasing that hurts that group. I am in the middle with this new adaptation. I could picture both versions of Ariel could be in the park. Girls would love to see both iterations.
I have two fairytales that could have interesting adaptations. First is Blue Beard which could easily be turned into a suspenseful horror movie as the protagonist tries to hide that she knows Blue Beard's secret and perhaps try to kill him for what he has done. And second is the Black School, but not for the story, rather, the setting of the school itself. It's a literally underground school that teaches black magic, with the students reading books with flaming text in the dark cave. There really are no teachers or staff and they are given food by mysterious hands that come from the walls. It's such a weird setting that you could have a lot of fun with. Hogwarts, eat your heart out!
A book I would love to see on tv would be keepers of the lost cities. By now, it has 8.5 books and a very interesting lore, which would be awesome in a movie, if done right( also cast Dwayne Johnson as Alden Vacker because I’ve always imagined him looking like that for some bizarre reason😂)
I find it kind of sad that People of Color can’t be cast into a role, without people assuming that they were just given the role because of their race. I didn’t know who Halle Bailey was before this trailer, but from what I’ve gathered she’s a great singer and a really respected artist. From my perspective it seems like they probably gave her the role because she was the best of the people who auditioned.
If it were an original character, I wouldn't say anything. Representation is great! But create original characters for them and not race-swap old ones. We shouldn't say "well, it's better than nothing." Standards should be higher than that. Let a pre-established character have their qualities and create new ones for us to love. Everyone deserves originality and respect. Maybe Halle did get the role just on pure talent. Idk. But the current political climate makes it hard to know the exact agenda of everyone. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, unfortunately. >__
I can already see the angy 5 year olds and jobless twitter ppl tryna dislike this masterpiece I really agree with your statement because, honestly... its kinda hard to disagree? The main reason disney makes all the lve action movies is to get them cash ya know? Since black representation, female rights and pride representation is the trend these days (not sayin that its a bad thing tho), disney would obviously try to take advantage of this and try to make more money instead of making heartwarming stories that you could cry abt. I mean, disney kiiinda doesnt make any original stories? Theyre mostly their own version of the brothers grim or already existing fairytales.
I was pissed since ariel is my fav princess and i wanted to see her as a ginger white woman but im racist of i say that. Id gate it if they pulled this bs on any of the princess
@@TheArtisticAloubell like you daid its not ok to do representation by taking away anothers. Like how often do you see red headed girls in a main role and not be the villain?
For me it matter she is always white even in the og Andersen tale Hey disney ! Time to learn to make your own and not ruin the ones you already have and loved!
@@TheArtisticAloubell I def agree. As a black girl myself I think we need to start demanding way better representation than just taking already established non-black characters and turning them black. Because if we keep accepting this, the bare minimum, as “good rep” then companies like Disney aren’t even going to try and make original characters, they’ll just keep rehashing old ones and its SO FRUSTRATING that so many people seem to have absolutely no problem with that :/
8:31 The Alladin story originally takes place not in an Arab country but in Central Asia and Western China, where the Uighurs and Tajiks, muslim Central Asian populations reside. So most of the characters wouldn't have had brown skin or Arab features but more Central-Asian features that look more like a Chinese or a Korean.
I’m white and a center-leftist, but your argument is very intriguing and persuading. I was so happy to see that compilation of little African American girls reacting to Ariel being Black in the remake because it was like they were seeing themselves on the screen (I hope I’m not speaking for the black community bc it’s not my place, it’s just what I’ve seen), and I was worried that you might take the far conservative perspective like Matt Walsh, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, etc. But no. You had a completely different take of your own. I’m a subscriber so I did want to see your opinions on this because the topic in general is real hot! From a hopefully general perspective (pls don’t kill me), your points were understandable, and you recognized both sides and saw the nuance in the topic. You didn’t want to just choose a side like hopping on a bandwagon, but formed your own outlook. I respect you a lot even though I didn’t personally agree with some of what you said. Don’t worry about the general public because they can be very sensitive no matter what side they’re on. You’re very brave for speaking your mind, and I support you. Oh and one more thing! 🔱
I'm from Latin America, I'm Mestiza with black hair, i don't look like Ariel, i don't look like Tiana, i don't look like Jasmine, i don't look like Esmeralda, i don't look like Elsa, i don't look like Cinderella etc etc, should i start demanding representation so the whole Latin America can be on the big screen? 😂 But really though, all these remakes are lazy and so creatively bankrupt, it's like trying to watch a marathon of Johnny Test, it's never ending and quite tiring. But i just stick to manga and anime, it's the one thing that made start drawing.
As a black person myself I care for representation because different kinds of people can create their own stories and there own characters with different backgrounds and personality And for me personally I like to see different stories with different backgrounds because I want to be challenged
You can do this as long as you create your own unique character This would be still fine if they didn't want to destroy the original Ariel we love. Keep it original, create a new one
@@queenkurumi8504 My Little pony G4 ponies do have a races it's literally Earth ponies, Pegasus and unicorn and alicorn and more races out there and countries if My Little pony generation 5 explained it or go to other countries
The way I see it, if Disney wants to make movies based on cartoons, they should make more movies like Maleficent. I've only seen the first movie but I found this take on the story of Sleeping Beauty interesting. It wasn't just a remake, it had its own plot and the characters were unique too (except for the fairy godmothers, they felt uncanny). An even better example of this is Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. I know, it's a controversial movie, but again, it felt like its own thing centred around the original concept.
Yes! Exactly
Considering they turnt the sea witch into a straight villain with the Disney version, I'd like a movie about how Ursula became one. I mean, in the Disney version, her implied old vendetta with Triton, explore it! That would be fun!
@@gabidobre5584 I heard it was. Hopefully I can get around to watching it.
i love tim burton's alice in wonderland.
''The first movie'' ? There are sequels ?!
As a black person, who wants representation I have to agree with all you said. I really don't like that they raceswapped Ariel. Her design is so iconic and changing it only bring problems. I don't feel represented as a token character or if its forced in like that. They really should have created an original Mermaid and have her be Ariel's friend or sth, then there wouldn't have been any problem.
We can't change it now so I would rather support it since the actress is getting so much hate, but they shouldn't have done it in the first place.
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Oddly enough, Ariel did have a friend who was a Black Mermaid. Her name was Gabriella if I’m not mistaken.
@@kenslycarpel3140 Okay, let's change her name in the movie to Gabriella. They can change in post production.
You know what I found hilarious about the backlash to The little Mermaid, it finally got white girls to promote diverse books in some Booktube spaces. I know for a fact, they didn't care about these black authors and stories before, they realized they were being replaced in media. So they're not likely to support the movie about Gabriella the Mermaid.
What they SHOULD have done was stop making remakes and just... make a new princess
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 Are you a white girl? If you knew white girls they aren't interested in anybody outside themselves. If you are another ethnicity, you have to lower yourself and put them in a sympathetic light ie. RRR.
🔱 I feel like a lot of the live action remakes are just cash grabs because they think that people aren't going to be interested in any new ideas, so they remake old ones that were already successful.
It’s not that we won’t be interested in something new, it’s that talent is dying out in Hollywood
@@thatpanfairy7176 I feel like that's also part of the problem, but I meant that the companies only ASSUME that people won't be interested in any new ideas, not that people actually weren't interested in new ideas.
That is because they ARE pure cashgrabs.
...and easier to make then actually creating something new from scratch.
They wanna make money mainly on nostalgia...which they fail with a lot.
Screwed up all that was good about Mulan and took away her journey of becoming a hero, replaced it with a "wonder woman that was born with special powers, stronger than any men". Took away the personalaty and emotion from the Lion King (while showing amazing CGI). Aladin could have been so much better if Will Smith would have been allowed to be himself instead of copying our beloved Robin Williams (who can't be replaced anyway) etc.
Now they race swapped Ariel to satisfy "woke" people. Which is even more ridicolous when you remember they make money with nostalgia in the remakes.
It's not the same any more.
I don't get why they dont create an movie based on a south american, arfican etc. story/fairy tail.
I am sure there are plenty of great storys out there to tell and adapt!
And I'm sure not only "black" people would love them, but "white" people would be thrilled to see them as well (as long as the characters are likable, you can feel with them, they have personality etc)!
@@Akefia The funny but sad part about the live action remakes is that they don't even do a good job at hiding the fact that they're cash grabs. They don't even try to make the movies good anymore, they just want to grab people's attention so they will watch, even if they're only watching it to see the uninspired trainwreck that a lot of those remakes are and make fun of them.
The only good ones are the Jungle Book and Christopher Robin but they're original stories for the most part JB being closer to the source material and CR being a sequel.
The thing is, if they wanted representation, Ariel canonically has latina best friend from the little mermaid tv show. They've added friends for the princess characters in their live action movies and even a useless sister in mulan so why not bring in a canon character that was a fleshed out character who's race was not her entire character. Gabriella was also deaf and has a cute little octopus friend that uses sign language with her and acts as her interpreter, but that wasn't her whole character. That's two counts of representation with a canon character without stepping on any toes by race bending Ariel.
We also got the original story which was an allegory to being a gay man, they could have made a whole new film more closely based on the story but made the mermaid(or more correctly merman) a gay man instead to represent the author
I mean the only reason the film was set in Denmark is cause the author is danish, even tho the original story wasn’t set in any specific country
I love Gabriella. They should’ve given her more screen time and they should’ve given her her own movie. I don’t get me wrong. I love Ariel and I always will but Gabriella deserves love to.
I think that the whole changing her race thing is really just bringing into the spotlight the big problem with the remakes.
They are changing the stories we grew up with and trying to pass them off as the same thing, when most of the time those things didn't need to be changed to begin with. Its the same problem I have with movie adaptations of books. They are soulless, they take and add with no respect for the thing they claim to be adapting or remaking.
Yeah bcuz if Ariel is black its fine for me if she's white it's also ok
Bcuz mermaids don't exist!!!!😡
Like it's so obvious mermaids don't exist 😀😡😭😩😘
Those stories already changed the original stories anyways, the original little mermaid was an allegory to being a gay man-the reason the mermaid didn’t get the prince and died is to represent the struggle the author went though with being a gay man who fell for a straight man , we simply don’t care cause those aren’t the stories we grew up with, we grew up with the story where Ariel did get the man and didn’t die essaintly taking away the gay allegory in it
The Alice in wonderland remakes Disney made were interesting as they didn’t remake the Disney verison of it they focused more on making a new interruption for the original story, (granted I still much prefer Alice madness return over these films for a darker take on it) if Disney focused on making new interruptions of the fairytales instead of remaking the films themselves I think more people would be onboard-esp if they were to be legitmently darker with their themes and not just litrealy darker with their colorpallete to the point you can’t see anyone
What about Harry Potter? I liked the movies and the books.
@@rileyrosesrblx i have never seen or read it so have no opinion
@@starshine_lue5823 You should! They are good books and movies.
That’s exactly it! I’m one of the white, red haired girls you mentioned towards the end of the video, and I remember when I was little absolutely adoring Ariel because she had red hair, and at the time, neither Brave nor Frozen had been released, so she was the only ginger princess (later on I learned looks don’t matter as much as character, but five-year-old me was pleased nonetheless). I have no problem with Halle playing Ariel (in fact, I quite like her costume design), but I agree with the sentiment of “giving the leftovers to the minorities.” That, to me, seems more unfair than letting them play in remakes and adaptions like this, when everyone deserves to have a story they can relate to in every aspect. Out of all the stories I wish Disney or any other animation/film company would establish, it’s The Wild Swans by Hans Christian Anderson. It’s not my favorite fairy tale ever (looking at you, Alice in Wonderland), but it’s such a great story anyway, and could easily be adapted to fit any culture, race, narrative or cast. Besides that, it’s just a really interesting story.
I think a great original movie that “represents” a culture is Encanto. If Disney wants to do more of that, I’d say I’m all for it, because not only did it present Columbian culture extremely effectively, but it also grabbed us with a heartening story and interesting characters. It’s one of my recent favorite Disney films, and that’s coming from…well, a white red-haired girl with not much say in the matter.
Anyway, this was a great video! I only found you recently (thanks to Cyrus the Great) but I’ve taken to binging all your content, and I’m happy to say I think I’ll stick around for a while ;)
Exactly! And I can relate to Mirabel because of her character, and not because of her look (;
As a redhead who didn't grow up with Little Mermaid and was around 9 or 10 when Brave was released, I absolutely loved Merida and was obsessed with her! She was my favorite princess when she came out! Later on, my hair turned less like Merida's firey red and more like a light brownish blondeish reddish like Anna's and I loved Anna's design in when I saw Frozen. Also, Giselle is a Disney princess too isn't she? She's a redhead!
@@felicity1877 And I don't like The Princess and the Frog as a black person.
You do know black people can have red hair right???
@@ayeeele Yeah, but Halle Bailey isn't naturally red...
As a white person, I agree. I mean this remake is just eh. They are taking from the original Disney movie and not just making it's own identity as you said! Take from the tail who has no physical appearance, don't steal from an already existing masterpiece who already has a appearance
To further emphasize, if it had its own unique take (like Maleficent or Cruella attempted, and Twisted did well), it wouldn't be stuck as "just another Little Mermaid remake".
@@amesstarline5482 Yup!
And apparently the original movie intended for Ariel to be Black
It’s not taking anything away from the OG u can watch it anytime. Really?!?? If a skin makes the movie unwatchable then that says a lot
@@MOON-vo6cq I am not saying that at all, in fact, I just don't perfer live action remakes. No one EVER said that or even tried to imply that
🔱 Well, at least there’s someone out there who says that “black isn’t a personality trait”.
yea, although if you made tianna white in uhh that movie- (forgot what its called lol) the movie would be 5 minutes long. that wont happen with the little mermaid tho.
@@NeutralBabyStrider Because Tiana is written to be a black woman, Ariel is a mermaid and she could be of any race
(with this I don't mean that swapping characters races is right)
@@scarababbeo9733 Ariel is a white race,red head,mermarid
@@scarababbeo9733 mermaids can be any race but Ariel can only be white. Like how Spiderman can be anyone (even a pig) but Peter Parker can only be white. Hailey is great but I can't see Ariel. I see someone playing Ariel. Wouldn't want her playing Tiana either. I want someone who looks like the original and if they are white redheads then let them stay white redheads
@@toyaleejb7714 what??
I think it’s disastrous to anyone involved when you do race or gender swapping. It wants to rely off the fame of the white or male character, but also doesn’t seem to realize that it forces the minority character to compete against the already established character. Furthermore, I don’t want any handy me down characters. To me it’s kind of disrespectful and patronizing. Disney doesn’t sincerely care about race otherwise Tiana wouldn’t have been a frog her whole movie and they would have made an entirely new black character instead of race swapping. Heck, they could have even made the first black male lead. Disney just wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants to sound inviting to all but doesn’t sincerely want to risk having a black lead yet wants to be praised for making a movie with a black lead 🤦🏽♀️
Also I’m sick of remakes as well, it’s just lazy though judging from the trailer at least the soundtrack will be good
I 100% agree
If they don't care about race, why do movies like The Emperor's New Groove still include characters with a different race despite the main lead becoming something else?
Like I remember every other character in there being the same race not just the main lead, how about the other main character for example, or maybe I'm overthinking it....
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 I think no one complained about Naveen bc his race is made up. He’s from a fictional land. I mean he’s likely based off of a real race but since it’s left ambiguous it caused less drama. I think the marketing played a role too since Tiana was marketed as the first black Disney Princess but the fact that she was a frog for so long disappointed many. I mean I think the movie is fine overall and the soundtrack is good, but that she was a frog for so long was a bit disappointing to many
@@ShellySwirl Disney will make movies with other races of ppl if it turns a profit, but they definitely aren’t as open as they pretend to be. Black characters in Star Wars and Black Panther were heavily censored in China. Just look up the posters in China compared to in the U.S. They compromised their “stance” for profit.
Also Tiana and Pocahontas were both given lighter skin and features (especially Tiana) in Wreck it Ralph until the actress who played Tiana complained and they finally fixed it
Disney’s ultimate goal is to make money and they’ll pander to whoever if it ends in them making a profit. It’s sad but true, especially since I grew up with Disney but it’s just the reality 😔
Race swapping will always be messy and it's just ill-advised in general!
The leftovers comment really makes great sense. Tiana was good black rep because she was an original character and her race, while not being part of her personality, was still partially relevant to the story due to the time period (she's meant to be a disadvantaged person with goals most can't imagine her completing, which a black woman would be during that time). She wasn't just leftovers, she was the grand Disney version of the classic fairy tale. And she was even more original, honestly. She wasn't a princess who kissed a frog and had him turn to a prince. She was just a woman. Her story is incredible and so is her prince. An original spin on a classic fairy tale with an interracial and mixed-class couple, with the relevance of her race being just enough to not make it seem like it's trying too hard but also not like she's being ignored, makes for the kind of story Disney is trying to sell this new little mermaid as. Halle's Ariel is just a way to get brownie points
Was Tiana really a good representation. That princess was a frog for most of the movie, wasn't she?
@@that1sha405 Her time onscreen as a black woman doesn't matter much. You can gripe about it all you want but she's still most iconic and recognizable in her human form, she's still an actual original character while Ariel is just recycled, and she still was arguably one of the best princesses
@@that1sha405 if all that mattered was the physical appearance, then is anything good representation? Cuz if skin color is all that mattered, then what’s the point of rep? Reminds me of that white woman who complained that the show Moon Knight was bad representation for Egyptian ppl cuz they weren’t “dark” enough. Whereas most Egyptians loved it because it actually depicted the geography and culture of the country. What’s more impt? Are minorities nothing but their skin and white ppl have character?
Mama Odie best character, so is Ray.
But why couldn’t she stay human and black for the whole movie? Same for Naveen. It’s very suspicious they choose a fairy tale where the main black characters are non-human so we only see them black in the beginning and the last part of the movie?? And it’s nice to have a independent female character. But we’d also love a black woman being the damsel in distress sometimes and not just “the strong independent woman” who has so suffer and ask help from nobody. We are humans too, black women are like any other women. Sorry for ranting but these are just crumbs from Hollywood/entertainment industry. This is why I like to watch independent producers and studios besides mainstream. ✌🏾
🔱🫧 I completely agree with you, it really is a problem is when the industries put certain people or whole races down in order to elevate others. It IS possible to do the latter without having to resort to the former. 😑
For example, I have the most issue with the upcoming live-action Snow White. I'm latina, more specifically Guatemalan, born and raised. BUT I have really pale white skin and dark hair (yeah, it's annoying to me when people assume that ALL Latinamerican people HAVE to be brown. We too come in all shapes and colors, you know. 🙄). Anyways, ever since I was little, Snow White has always been the princess that has looked like me. I even got to play her in a school play because of how much I've always resembled her (even the fact that, back in the day, they didn't draw the princesses as skinny as now, and therefore Snow White was even a tiny bit chubbier than today's standards, same as me!). But now, this upcoming live-action, starting a girl who doesn't look at all like me, is too making me feel a tiny bit erased. And heck, I'm not a person who's ever put that much importance in representation either. But it still kinda feels like now they're taking this princess away from me. The original one will always be there for me to enjoy, but it still feels wrong to me.
All in all, couldn't agree with you more: The best way to represent is giving people their own set of stories, not having them settle for anyone else's scraps. (That being said, to all the people who are still complaining about the live-action remakes: you're entitled to do it, but PLEASE do so while simultaneously supporting their ACTUAL original projects, such as 'Stange World' that's coming soon. If the original stuff keeps flopping, it won't help one bit in them stopping with the remakes. 🙏)
Anyways, good on you for speaking your mind on this matter! Your opinions are always so interesting to listen to. Great video as always. 😊
White latinas literally get represented all the time in Latino media while afro and brown latinas are literally demonized or made into stereotypes
Perfect! That's what I was trying to express! I myself am feeling similar to that, to what you said.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts and experiences!
Remember Snow White is a public domain character. If you think Disney gets the live action retelling wrong there many more out there you might relate to better, Snow White and the Huntsman. What ever Disney does it can't be worse than 2001's Snow White: the fairest of them all. It was very cheap.
I just hope that they do Ariel right as people often think that Ariel became human only because of Erik but because she was so curious about humans and their world that’s why she collects human things and that’s what Erik loves about her not because she’s a woman or that she’s pretty but who Ariel is as a person
And to be honest.... even if she had left the ocean because of him WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? Can't we like men anymore? I bet nobody would have ever said anything if she had became human for a woman right?
@@prata9740 I think ppl were mad because she basically ran away from home to be with him and then married and had his kid (which Ik was common with royality but still) I think they wanted ppl to realise that ditching your family to be with someone you barely know is wrong, like she only knew Eric a few days and she was like "I wanna marry this man and have his babies" like that's not something you show to kids
I hope they do that too, that's really sweet. I never seen the original, but judging by her design, it makes me think he only fell for her because she's hot XD I mean, I always hated designs in movies like that
@@Neo-Queenserenityt2l My point still stands, i'm completely sure none of these people would care about her leaving her family if she had done that for a woman. The character from the movie "Luca" isn't criticized even though he did basically the same. Oh yeah.... i guess it has something to do with the fact that he left his family because of another boy right? The hypocrisy.....
@@jocelynecupcake Watch it and you'll see that it was mostly because she saved his life.
I have no problem with Ariel being black,and it warms my heart for little girls to see a mermaid just like them. I'm upset over the amount of people angry at the wrong thing.
The problem isn't her being black. She can be black. She's a mermaid. I do not give a damn. And the actress has such a beautiful voice,I wish the best for her,she seems like a sweet person.
People should be mad Disney keeps making remake after remake. The REMAKES are draining,not her new race. And I'm upset cause I've seen it,people will blame the movie being shit (if it is,kinda hope not) in her race and not in the fact Disney just doesn't do any effort,these are cashgrabs,sad upsetting cashgrabs.
Yeah there was literally no need for some of them like Pinocchio
I'm an old school comic book fan. As such you get used to live action and animated adaptations getting much wrong. It used to drive me crazy as a little kid watching the Incredible Hulk on tv knowing they got the main characters name wrong. All of Disney's animated movies change tons of details from their source material. For me it boils down to the quality of the production at hand. There are some things I can accept and some I can't. So far all of Disney's live action remakes have been awful. I have yet to sit through any of the few I began watching to the end. It's a shame they couldn't have come up with something original to showcase Halle's talent. I will admit I don't like the erasing of red headed white Ariel. She's an icon to millions of little girls with a 30 year history in modern culture. I don't think it's right to take away from one to give to the other either. It doesn't send the message we're all in this together.
she is a mermaid half human whitch is a white person and half fish. create a diferent mermaid.
That's exactly my opinion. I don't care about her race being swapped, I care about the remakes and remakes and remakes and remakes...
Agree with you 😊 I don't give a damn about her skin color. Her voice is amazing and I hope she can act good and get a good script
I can say that even as a white young female with Asperger sydrome, my disability isn't what defines me, it is just a part of me. 💖 And honestly I would rather not have a representasion of Asperger's if it was done poorly or would give other people a negative perspective on Aspies as a whole.
I don’t like that if you say you don’t like Ariel being black they immediately say you’re racist. I don’t like this change because, aside that it’s being used to pushed Disney’s political agenda, it feels like everytime Disney does something like this Disney is saying: ‘Oh black people can’t succeed telling their own stories. Here! Take this white person’s story! Now I’ll make it big!’
It feels like Disney is saying telling black stories is not worth it and they are not worth to be listen to. I’m Latina and if Ariel was turned into a Latina I would be annoyed as well. Lately Latin-American culture has been done well with movies like Encanto and Coco. They are beautiful! Disney is absolutely capable to tell stories other than white, and by moves like this, it’s even more insulting that they are representing black people like this. I would say ‘Do better Disney’ but I’ve lost all hope in Disney.
Ariel is a fish girl
I couldn't have said it better. Thank you for putting in words something that I could never quite explain.
Growing up as a black girl, I had the same experience, so I feel you.
I also totally agree that they should just create new stories for the minorities instead of the recycling they are doing now.
It feels nice knowing I wasn't the only one to feel that way... I was starting to doubt myself 😅
@@TheArtisticAloubell umm will Ariel be a little different besides of her being black or something else or is Disney erasing Ariel remake movie????
I'm glad to see that you have the same opinion as me about the new little mermaid! People on tiktok are calling anyone who criticize the new ariel racist :/
Many people are too sensitive and call others names just because they have a different opinion than them >___
I only accept raceswaps when they are fanarts or if they are versions of tales that don't specify the appearance of the character.
Out of any other film studio who could've made a little mermaid version
I don't think black people should integrate in these white spaces anyway. Tyler Perry already showed us we can build our own studios and stream for ourselves. All he needs to do is HIRE talented people to fulfill these projects. I don't care for Hollywood. I want the African diaspora to fund Nollywood.
What about cosplayers
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The same. Every fan creation that it is not made for spite, it's fine for me.
For some reason, people can't distinguish between an official comercial product and something "for fans, for fun".
@@eugeniagomezguerra1802 I'd like to see a new movie adaptation more faithful to the book. Maybe not necesarily "dark", but just different enough from the Disney version. It would be nice.
I'm in the same boat. I'm black but I really don't care if the character I like is black or not (for example: I like Peter Parker far more than Miles Morales). And yeah, I hate it when people focus so much on a person's skin tone as opposed to judging based on character and personality.
peter parker and miles are from different universes, they aren't based on the same person .
@@poixses_ Miles takes influence from Peter and going off of Marvel's Spider-Man PS4, they are in the same universe (and even in the Ultimate Comics and Into the Spider-Verse, Miles did exist in the same universe as the Peter Parker who died. And even in the main comic, Miles is in 616).
People are just too obsessed with race its very sad
"I'm Black"
Well, I figured because of your avatar. Look, I don't care whether you're black or what kind of race you're coming from but one thing that is attached to me is that you have an open-mindedness when it comes to ranting about any cartoon or movies and sharing out the idea with us. Second, I enjoy your multiple of videos in the past and you made a valid point! So it proves that you're an amazing, wonderful artist, TH-camr, supporting, friend, etc (I can go on and on forever). Race doesn't define who you really are as a person.
Anyway, your points are valid because you want to make a live-action movie based on their counterparts, not like changing the races. I feel like Ariel being black is just so wrong not to be offended because she's not the same girl we used to watch when we were younger. Don't get me wrong but Halle Bailey sounds very beautiful in the trailer if it's a different movie inspired by The Little Mermaid if it makes sense. Overall, I feel like this movie is going to be terrible.
Thank you so much for your kind words
THIS is why I disagree with Disney changing Ariel's appearance in the remake bc it is logical that you expect a physical/real-life representation that's similar to what the original counterpart is/was.
They could've also made Eric or Triton be played by actors of color too; I remember when Christian Navarro was one of the actors who was considered to play Eric, Disney missed an opportunity there
Watching this movie would also make me feel uncomfortable, knowing that Ariel already has certain characteristics that were not respected (pp: this has nothing to do w Halle)
Growing up I also never saw the need to feel 'represented' either. Though, to be fair I did grow up in Puerto Rico so I was brought up within the culture, surounded by people of all hues and shades more often than not speaking spanish, so for me cartoons were my way of escaping my mundane repetetive life by seeing and hearing folks from different corners of the world. Plus, my parents taught me to not always trust everything I saw on television, so for me it was an escapist fantasy, not where I could find validation for my existance. But, I suppose some folks in the mainland grew up with a different perspective, which can be hard cause it feels like Im some kind of 'traitor' for not caring as much about representation as they do.
I personally never paid attention to the life remakes. It feels so wrong to me. By making something realistic, you're bound to lose the expressiveness cartoon has. You cannot replace that. So I feel like realism could never hit you as hard as cartoons do.
Additionally, I can't imagine how angering this must be to the people who animated the 2d movies. They spent so much time on making every animation look smooth. And now realistic movies feel like they're... Overwriting the hard work animators put into it. If I was affected by that, I'd be upset for sure.
I don't understand people who say that this movie is taking away from redhead representation, cause like she's still ginger in the live-action, obviously not as red as in the cartoon, but thats just because no one in real life has naturally red hair like that
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race.
My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem.
You've basically said the same thing I've been saying to people talking about this. I have no issue with a black little mermaid, just not specifically Ariel. The original story never gave the mermaid a name or appearance (or personality really), so making this a new version entirely was a reasonable option. Or just not making another crappy live action remake of a classic animated feature, but here we are.
I also don't particularly care for Ariel (she's kind of an irresponsible brat, endangered the world over a beef with dad and still got everything she wanted after everyone else cleaned her mess) and I haven't watched any of these remakes since Beauty and the Beast. They just disappoint me and tend to miss the point of the originals in their desperation to appeal to "modern audiences" or "fix" supposed problems from the animated movie that aren't actually problems.
We just need new stories. There's room for everyone and I want to see stories from other cultures stand along side the well known European tales.
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I have similar thoughts on Ariel among other thoughts. I used to really like her as a child. But then I grew up and thought about her actions DX
Honestly I feel like people should create there own original stories instead of changing what is already made. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see more rep in shows n movies but that’s not the only thing that matters. People should create original content instead of changing what’s been there for years.
Except that when they do no one watches them or they complain on how it’s woke or how it’s cringe. Just last week a fancomic’s main black character was whitewashed. You guys don’t give a shit about original black characters at all
If they wanted a poc mermaid they could have used Gabriela, a deaf black mermaid from the Ariel tv show.
Other options would be researching tales from other places, I'm brazillian and we have a mermaid from our folklore called Iara.
I'm just tired of people praising Disney and other companies for racebending. It's the laziest type of representation, instead of putting an effort into creating new, interesting characters they just use the glory and love of a previous white character. It's so lazy.
Racebending can lead to great things tho , If it weren’t for Mattel racebending Barbie to be Black we would never have gotten Brooklyn Barbie
I can’t believe you made Bell-Bell do the surprised Pikachu face in the intro
Believe me when I say I had no intention of making the face look like surprised Pikachu. That was just a hilarious coincidence that i didn't even realize until someone said something about it lol
I wish Hollywood had more viewpoints like you. I don't mind more racial representation, but I don't want classics to get changed to get the "message" across. The other Disney remakes are terrible, but they at least get the general look of the main characters look like what their animated counterparts were. That's why the Little Mermaid is a new kind of bad. Give Ariel a black mermaid friend or something, because I don't see Ariel from the trailer.
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. I honestly don’t think race swapping is the thing, but the fact that gingers keep getting swapped is pretty telling.
Just pick a blonde or a brunette if ya gotta swap them! You don’t have to swap the red heads! No one is holding you up like, “I swear, if you don’t swap that red head I’m gonna do it!”
Although, they don’t have to do remakes either, but whatever. I’ve pretty much given up on Disney for good quality content. I’ve already joined my fellow anime nerds😋. It gets weird, but at least I can enjoy it.🤷♀️
They're forgetting that gingers/ natural redheads are also a minority of 2% and that's sad
Yeah, it's annoying and worring me that I'm seeing so many redheads being turned into people with another characteristics that aren't redheads, and very oddly latelly they're specifically turning them into black people in the majorityof times (from what I've seen). You can't make more representation erasing another representation! That doesn't work like that! This is swapping not adding. Also, it seems very selective. It seems like they're picking all redheads and turning them into black characters or changing them into not redheads.
Also, its oddly specific that they're turning redheads specifically into black people lately, it could be any other character that they changed and it could've be changing redheads into any other characteristics but it's almost always a redhead being changed into a black character lately (from what I've seen) and I wonder why. Now it's a pattern.
I already saw many stories now swapping redheads for black people when they could've swapped a white character or created a new character. In one remake they created a pink (literally the colour pink for skin) girl and turned a redhead into a black character when they could've both, keeping the redhead and putting a relevant black character. It could be very cool.
Just to make clear to avoid misunderstandings: I have no problems with black people or any other ethnic group, on contrary, I love diversity, it is great and makes the world entertaining and very colorful and full of diferent POVs and appearances, my artististic soul loves to explore those differences as well. It gives life to live.
Also, not like it's a great argument since you admiring someone (real or character) doesn't make you immune to prejudice, but: Static Shock is my favorite super hero as well as some of my favorites super heros are Green Lantern John Stewart, Black Panter and Spider Man Miles Morales. I also love Tiana. I love Gus from the Owl House too.
What's is worrying me is the apparent selective erasure of redheads.
I really hope that it's not happening but it seems like what's happening, for now at least.
I really hope that they stop thinking that they can just swap or change a minority or underrepresented group into another minority or underrepresented group and count it like representation (and in some works they even keep a cast of "not so much representative characters" intact while changing the characters that are minority or part of an underrepresented group and they call it (or try to make it seem) like they're putting more diversity and representation into the work).
That's... worring.
I hope not to cause any misunderstanding, I would love that more people can feel representated but I hate that they're doing it in a half baked way and half done and erasing others while at it instead of adding it into what they already have.
Also my main language is not English and I'm not used to express my more complex thoughts in English so I may not have been all clear about what I meant, if so, I apologize.
It's not my intention to offend anyone. I hope that in the future EVERYONE can feel themselves being well representated and valued in stories (and irl too).
@@jackskydragon_JW No worries dude. Your English was perfectly clear😁
@@jackskydragon_JW OMG YES TO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID
@@CyberRogue2088 I'm glad that I was clear! Thanks for telling me. 😄
You're so right! I'm not really a big fan of disney movies, but since the first live adaptation movie I was thinking like "whatever", because it was a story I already know.
(I mean it's a different thing when you read a comic or book and than watching the movie as you watch the same story as a cartoon version and than the live adaptation version)
Even good point to shout out the old "forgotten" disney movies like for example Atlantis. This would be cool and a great chance to bring these stories to the people!
Yeah Atlantis would probably look cool as a remake considering it wasn't well known at the time and didn't do well at the box office. Does it NEED a remake? No. But there's more of a justification for it~
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Sorry there’s no erasing the OG Ariel, it’s like Miles Morales being the new Spider Man.
Disney is just using Halle as a shield from criticism
“Do not settle for used Valentine’s” should be an actual phrase, it’s good
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IT SHOULD!!!!
Thank you
I don’t think it matters if one character is a different race from the other but Disney should be more careful with changing a universe from its original elements that make a story unique but mistakes are normal we are human 🔱
Honestly this is such a breath of fresh air. I generally don't have much opinions on the remake nor do I care that much but seeing someone with a different and nuance perspective is so refreshing
Also I really love the part where you talk about other people being put down, as a minority (specifically queer) it always bothered me so much. You don't need to uplift people by pushing others down!! Just treat them as equal and put emphasis on them as people, not their remarks
Also extra edit I just absolutely adore your points about changing a characters' race. I've always heard that you're bigoted if you don't like it and I absolutely disagree. I really hate it and hearing someone with that same perspective as me is really wonderful:))
i personally don't agree with the criticism to disney for the casting, as someone who acts it should never be about how you look, the person casted needs to be the person who can best act the role. we can't know that she was casted over white people because she is black unless Disney releases their true intentions with the casting. i don't want majorities to be put down to uplift minorities, i believe in total equality between groups but i also believe in the power of representation and i anticipate that the new ariel will show that she deserved this role on her merit. i think that this will make a lot of black children happy to see, as evident by the trailer it already has. for this reason in my opinion, as long as the acting and performance for the role is good i am happy with the Disney casting.
as for erasure, the live action movies usually don't come out as beloved as the animated version. i think the classic red-haired ariel will be just fine. it's fun to see how everything will play out in live action but everyone knows and loves the classic ariel and i truly don't believe someone that iconic could be erased like that. the good thing about animated movies is that the character can look however with the actor looking completely different, but in live action sometimes choosing the right actor means that they will not meet the appearance of the original. as ive stated, in my opinion appearance shouldn't matter, if you go in with the right mindset of just judging the merit of the actor instead of appearance it will likely turn out a better experience.
what it all comes down to is its just not a big deal. i hope ive expressed that well enough here, that whether you like the choice or don't in the long run it really doesn't matter. it's an interesting topic for a peaceful discussion and i like hearing people's reasonable views on it because id never considered that people wouldn't like it for the reason of her not looking like classic ariel.
I agree with you. I don't have a problem with the live action Little Mermaid casting differently raced actors than the original. I will only have a problem if Disney starts to market their new characters as being better than the old ones and try to erase them from history, which is very unlikely to happen since all past live action remakes have never replaced the old characters so I highly doubt that will happen with Ariel. I believe most people will just live happily with two different Ariels in the Disney cannon.
When it comes to changing only the skin color of a popular character, for representation, without changing anything else about their story, or personality, I remember what a black youtuber said:
At the end of the day when people think of that character, they'll think of the original version, not the fanart or remake they've done, so in the end it's not really representation.
And I don't know, it left me thinking a lot, I think they had a point, like for example, Black Panter is important for many, because of his ethnicity and skin color, but also because he is his own person and character, it is not an adaptation of anyone else, it is something original and memorable.
Honestly, I feel like if disney gave a fuck about representation, they'd make a NEW black Disney princess, with her OWN stories, and her own animal best friend! Disney literally did less than the bear minimum on this 💀they don't care..
before this, live action remakes were just seen as cash grabs anyways. (Ex. The live action lion king) ((((keep in mind im busy so i didnt watch the video, i was just excited people have similar views)))) someone can like the remake, but I won't be praising it for representation when Disney has the money + people to create something amazing..
I hope this pushes Disney to create a better Disney princess that's not a frog half the time.
I think that this actually can be tied into a bigger question of how many liberties a person is allowed to take when adapting something. For example, there's always going to be the challenge of deciding what to cut from a book when adapting it into a movie, but you can cut and even change things in a movie adaption in order to make the story flow better in a shorter amount of time without compromising what made the original book so good in the first place.
Looking at the world of comics, most well-known characters have gone through too many changes to count throughout their lifetime. At one time, Batman walked around with a gun on his hip. However, even though that is part of Batman's history, if someone wanted to adapt that version of Batman today, people would not be happy.
On the other hand, people don't seem to care as much if lesser-known characters are changed. Mr. Freeze used to be a generic C-tier Batman villain, but then, Batman: The Animated Series reinvented Mr. Freeze as a tragic character who is just looking for a way to cure his cryogenically frozen wife, no matter the consequences. That interpretation of Mr. Freeze became so popular that it became canon in the comics. So, even though the adaption drastically changed the character, it ended up being a positive change.
I think the solution is finding the line between allowing creators to make changes that they think are beneficial and honoring the source material while keeping the expectations of the fans in mind. The problem is that this is easier said than done.
I’m a Christian too! I agree with your points!
Same here
Imagine a world in which Hollywood and Disney in particular create a whole bunch of unique and original black characters all with their own story. Not only would people of color receive the representation they deserve. On top of that no one could complain about race swapping, double standards and a general lack of creativity. And if the writing is good even the bubble which inevitably will call it woke will shrink to a much, much smaller size. Black people get what they want, white people keep what they have, and everyone enjoys high quality entertainment instead of pointlessly fighting each other. Everyone wins.
I enjoyed this vid. I am tired of them making skin color a big deal and race swapping characters. Not just Disney but all of Hollywood. What should matter is the character themselves as a person. Anyone can enjoy a character regardless of skin color and many shows and movies have proved this time and time again but they're too busy treating people like they're racists in situations like this when that's not the problem.
It's wrong to reduce a person to only their skin color, it doesn't matter whether you dislike them or if you put them on a pedestal because of it. It's wrong either way.
Just imagine how great it could have been if they did a sequel with Melody's daughter who could have been a new character with a new, but related story. Could made the daddy any phenotype you wanted. Maybe Melody became a great sea faring explorer and fell in love with a noble pirate or a merman from another kingdom,.
I would love an expanded au for some Disney stories. Although I do have a bit of a weakness for continuing fictional family trees.
that would have been cool! ^_^
I don't hate the live-action Disney remakes. There are some that I genuinely like (Cinderella, The Jungle Book, and Aladdin). I don't mind the remakes, so long as they are entertaining. However, I do understand why people don't like them. Most of them are pretty much the exact same movie as the original animated classics with the only differences being throw-away lines that "fix the issues" of the originals. For example, in the live-action Beauty and the Beast, Belle asks the servants if everything in Beast's castle is alive and tries to talk to a hairbrush, only for her to find out it's just a hairbrush. It seems pretty clear that the only reason that this short exchange between Belle and the servants exists is to address a nitpick that some people have with the original, that nitpick being whether or not Beast had any furniture prior to being cursed since every piece of furniture seems to be alive.
At the same time, I don't think that some of the critics out there are helping with this problem. For example, I heard one critic asking why Pinocchio was getting a remake when the original animated movie is considered a timeless classic, but then, when the movie came out, he asked why they cut so many classic scenes and songs from the original movie in the live-action remake. I think that this is exactly why Disney is not making drastic changes to their live-action remakes, because people complain if they aren't exactly the same as the timeless classics.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about the "original" movie which isn't really original. Disney didn't write Little Mermaid, they just made their own version based off a 200-300 year old Hans Christian Anderson fairytale. Do I like their version? To be honest I hate Ariel's design and think that old Disney movies are super cheesy, even though I personally have never seen it, nor grew up with movies like that. I'm one of those 2000s kids who grew up with every kids cartoon on tv but barely watched any Disney movies, as a kid -I could name everything from PBS kids, to the Qubo channel- . I honestly don't care what skin color they give her, she's a mermaid. If I were to design her I'd put some fins on her hands too, or maybe do something to make it look like she's underwater for a long time. I don't want to give hate on the Disney cartoon Little Mermaid to much, but I absolutely despise her design and don't understand why people are so ignorant not to realize what was wrong with their "Childhood favorite" and then cringe at some early episodes of SpongeBob. My point is, Disney shouldn't have to make their remake princess look exactly like the 2D chick, because that's what remakes are. They changed Cinderella's design in the 2016 remake (which in my opinion is super underrated -idk who can watch a movie form 1950 anyway-) to look more like the time period and setting, and the actress who plays her did an amazing job. The original Little Mermaid is supposed to be about prejudice, toxic people preventing a girl from loving someone who looks different, not about a topless underage bimbo simping for a Kpop prince (sorry I had to roast them like that, I didn't grow up with the movie).
Also, I understand so many people grew up and loved the original, I can't really see why, I think it's the movie cheesiest movie ever, especially after hearing that she's canonly 16 years old! (Why do they draw her body like that? And make her wear "sexy" outfits?) Disney's gotten a lot better at animating and designing teen characters, especially for Brave, Encanto, and Turning Red. I'd probably have different opinions about the first Little mermaid movie is their designs looked different and if I watched it and enjoyed it as a kid, but since I grew up watching SpongeBob and Max & Ruby, I can't see why so many people are angry about the new Ariel's skin color, but not the fact that they have a 16 year old girl wear nothing but seashells. I guess I'm too modern?
also, btw I grew up as a redhead and I was young when Brave came out (probably about 9 or 10) and I thought Merida was so awesome! Like I said, I had other cartoons with pretty redhead girls so I didn't feel like a minority
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race.
My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem.
Yes, Disney didn't create the little mermaid, but they did create Ariel.
BUT TO BE HONEST, I would rather have Disney or any company produce a high production version of the original fairytale. I like the original little mermaid WAY more than Disney's version.
@@TheArtisticAloubell You're right on that one I guess. I don't know much about the original or the Disney version, i assumed that she had a name in the original story, but you could give her whatever name you want. (I have a little fairytale series I was planning on doing, and I named the Little Mermaid "Elizabeth" and instead of Briar Rose for Sleeping Beauty, I named her "Rosie" to sound cuter)
Oh I also agree with you there! I don't like old Disney movies! I actually like Ponyo, which is a Ghibli movie based off the Little Mermaid, but they used their own creativity, made her younger, and removed the romance. It was actually more similar to Luca but more magical. But I totally agree, Disney does a good job with their original stories (like Encanto and Luca) but when it comes to remakes and doing their own versions of fairytales/other stories, they don't do as well. No hate on Tangled or Chicken Little, but I would prefer a smaller company that does something closer to the story. Disney sometimes goes to far to "impress" people.
Live action story idea: Alice in Wonderland, but it's faithful to the source. The only main change is at the end, when Alice is revealed to just be a really young child with no real imagination set up yet and her older sister is just sitting there, a mix of confused and terrified.
I don’t really care what live action Ariel looked like. I feel like it’s not taking away from white red haired girls because the original still exists. Ariel can be for both groups. I see it like a multiverse type of Situation like some series have for different generations of the show/movie/brand. But I definitely agree Disney should adapt new fairytales instead of remaking old princess. It would be met with less backlash and give light to other cultures stories (if well researched). Plus like give us new stories please you can’t expect us to be excited when we already know the plot.
I don't get what it is about race swapping that makes me so uncomfortable. Maybe it's the fact that most of the race swapping I've seen ends up making a character fall into a stereotype of that race they have been made into e.g the Amphibia fandom race swapping Sasha,a German/Slavic girl who is someone with a temper,control issues and parental problems,into a black girl? Maybe it's the fact that some people raceswap characters,erasing them and the representation certain minorities got from them and passing off the race swapped character as representation e.g the firebenders from Avatar:The Last Airbender,who were Japanese coded in the cartoon,were made Indian in the live-action movie or,ONCE AGAIN! The Amphibia fandom race swapping Marcy,who was Taiwanese, into a black girl.I don't really know,but I know for sure that I do not like it. People of colour deserve better,original characters,not someone else's sloppy seconds. Like I'm Zimbabwean and only God knows how long we Africans have been waiting for an African Disney princess. There is so much folklore and so many myths that can be adapted pretty well into animated movies from all across Africa. Anyway,Great video Aloe. Very well made and with many good points!😘😘
You also made very good points! Race-swapping in general is just generally a no-no
Personally I’ve never been a fan of race swapping gender swapping or sexuality swapping I see it as oh we could give you an original characters but that’s to much work so we’re just going to change the race/gender/sexuality and call it a day. People are always saying oh but it’s cute when you show them it and they say it’s just like me. Well what’s going to happen when they search up the characters and realize that the character wasn’t made like they were being shown. They’ll think they’ve been lied to.
Personally, this movie does have me upset with the way Americans are basically hypocrites with this one. Like, for one, it is factually whitewashing as whilst her race was never outright stated in the novel, she actually is based off of the North-west European myth of the Undine which does depict them as pretty Nordic European looking maidens. By folklore canon if you can call it that, she is white. It's a Danish author and a book important in Danish culture, that's inspired by legends from the author's culture. What's so difficult to understand about it?
Which brings me to the Americans, who A, would have cancelled this movie if it had been blackwashing, B, called the Danish racist for pointing out the story is important to their culture that just happens to be white, C, literally use arguments organizations like BLM complain about all the time- 'White people doing their culture better,' as I seriously got a reply from an American who was saying they were taking European shit and making it better on a black TH-camr's channel discussing the movie and D, often bring up mermaids from around the entire world with a common example being the Japanese Ningyo- when those aren't like western mermaids at all. Ponyo is inspired by a Ningyo, do you think she looks like Ariel? Different cultures have different depictions of what is considered a 'mermaid'.
Don't even get started on how some even started insulting the Dutch because for some reason Americans have my culture as their default setting for a North-West European country other then England when they don't actually know which North-Western European culture they're speaking about. It's a serious thing that's been happening since centuries, hell our English name even refers to the Germans, we just call ourselves Nederlanders whilst the Germans refer to themselves as the Deutsch. The internet exists nowadays people, why do (mostly) Americans continue to make this mistake and just blame it on us Dutchfolk?
The hypocrisy and the insults is where I drew the line with this movie. She's white, and they're blackwashing her to pander to the woke crowd. Imagine insulting two entire cultures and calling them racist simply because they're trying to point out the hypocrisy behind it all.
This whole thing has just turned into a HUGE mess >___
I ( an Arab) agree with most of what you said but to be fair in the grims tails Ariel’s tongue is cut off and the prince doesn’t even marry her he married someone else so Disney was never really true to the real story
Also I think diversity is important but anyways
I WISH a big studio would finally animate/do a movie telling the actual story of the little mermaid. I like the original story better than the disney one >_
@@user-tn2uf4ow4f (my opinion)I find the original just as lovable if not even more although it is nostalgic for me and I love dark stories
I'm with you. Any little mermaid by any film studio or book author can be any color and it's beautiful. But Ariel is an established character that have merchandise, appear in movies and so many games for years, therefore the live action should be close to the cartoon character itself.
And as you can see, no good things happen after the teaser. The people who prefer the original vs race fanatics arguing, screaming racist everywhere.
More double standard happening, like artists recoloring ariel old animation to black can get away with it, while the new teaser movie edited to white get suspended.
Even Halle start blocking people and her tlm fandom over a little fuss. It become a hot mess right now.
The beginning literally scared me like: What's the secret?
You: I'm black
Me: Oh...that's kinda obvious. ya know your avatar?
Anyways I never thought about that but I totally agree
Lol I made it dramatic on purpose xD
Sorry for scaring you. Thank you for watching ❤️
We all humans but with different skins colours and the same insides so what's the point. ugh people now days. I am with The Artistic Aloubell - 01:13 Identity and Representation
03:19 A SAD Racial Apology.
Constervetial opinion the little mermaid is one of my favorite movies of all time so I am interested to see if it will be any good
You know the whole argument of people telling black folks to make their own movies, is that, back people have BEEN making their own movies. It's just people are biased towards their own content like Riverdale, 90210, Gossip Girl etc. I was watching That's So Raven, Girlfriends, Cousin Skeeter etc. around this time.
Look at Emily in Paris which won the award over I May Destroy You, which doesn't speak to white people and that's okay but we can make an original movie about a black mermaid... but original movies tank at the box office. Investors at Disney didn't want to take a chance on a flop like Queen of Katwe starring Lupita Nyongo so Disney probably flipped once they got their money and said they would cast the best actress.
As long as they don't make Ariel a simp ('cos she wasn't and I'll be happy to explain it to anybody who disagrees) I don't really care what this girl's race is.
just now i thought of one thing, redheads represent 1% to 2% of the world population
so does that mean they left one minority aside to raise the other?
(sorry for my bad english)
that is basically what's happening! And it's not cool!
I'm a mix person so me hearing about all the support for the community remakes is exhausting for me. I'm not fully black and I had to struggle to find a place to fit in for most of my life. I don't see Disney or any other company showing people like me any recognition for us and we're just existing in the background. If people like me were to be represented I would like it to be a original character and not color washing a known character. That way it's like showing that we are here and we are our own people.
Oh, and BTW, thank you for pointing out snow white because that that one makes me mad that one really kicks me off and I don’t get me wrong but they tried to do the area or really ticks me off too but the snow white thing yeah that one really ticks me off especially because she was the first Disney princess.
I like a few other people could care less if there was a black mermaid based off the movie but not Ariel. Just the basic princess mermaid wants to see the surface and fall in love is fine just make her different. Personality wise also.
I would also like the movie to be different in some major way or why would I care for this new Ariel when I already have the exact same character that I grew up with.
I like the remakes when they aren't 1:1 the same story.
Unless it is Mulan. I hated the live action movie so much.
Good video!
Edit: Grammar
Totally agree! Thank you! A doll artist on YT came under attack for repainting a thrifted Ariel doll and was told it was wrong of him to be doing the OG Ariel at this moment in time.
That's terrible >__
Also, if I had a choice I'd rather see the sequel for treasure planet than another live-action nostalgia induced cash and grab. Disney had planned to make it shortly after the first movie but after the box office wasn't as spectacular as they hoped, they dropped the project all together.
The Sea Beast exist.
@@suzygirl1843 huh? What does Netflix's Sea Beast have to do with this.
@@ceeford9919 I'm saying people keep using the phrase: create your own movies and I am pointing out there is a sea adventure story starring POC. The narrative of "create your own" seems like gaslighting because we have BEEN creating our own. People just prefer to see themselves on screen. You not going to convince white people to support a good story by a POC unless they are the main character like Grey's Anatomy or Bridgerton - all Shondaland productions because she knew she needed a Trojan Horse. White women, especially don't see properties outside of themselves unless its forced upon them like To Kill A Mockingbird at school.
Short answer to the title: no
Anything that isn’t Ariel walking like she’s being stabbed, probably blonde, and with her dying cause she made the wrong choices is gonna be “against the original” anyway so whatever.
Long as King triton is the real guy with an arc like in the last Disney movie it’s a remake of the Disney movie. Simple.
But damn I wish norm Lewis was still doing triton for this. Would even work great for matching Ariel to the white audience
For anyone confused th-cam.com/video/CnWIQePAEQU/w-d-xo.html
I'm so glad someone finally spoke out about this in such a nice, respectful way. I hated that they replaced Ariel with a "minority" because honestly, this is an insult to every party. Red headed girls, Ariel herself, black people, etc. It's so sad that Disney just wants to make cash off of beautiful, wonderful movies made with love. Oh, and I love your adorable art style!🔱
thank you
Black people can be redheaded so how is this an insult to red heads and Ariel? Ariels hair color isn't even a possible haircolor irl.. if the actress is possible of reenacting ariels personality then how is it an insult to both ariel, and redheads? Make it make sense
How is it insulting for red head ? Ariel stills red headed and it's not insulting to black people yall just mad because she's black
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 your really fucking hilarious you know? You always like to put words into people's mouths then when they go about to debunk you, you don't even respond.
@@ayeeele 1. Yes black people can be redheaded, but guess what we aren’t talking about black redheads we’re talking about white redheads.
2. “Ariel’s hair color isn’t even a possible hair color” doesn’t matter if her hair color can’t exist in the real world, she may not been an actual redhead but she had red-hair, so obviously some redhead girls would feel connected to her in some way.
3. This probably feels like an insult to *white* redheads because their representation is being taken away from them *again* and given to another group (honestly I wouldn’t even consider a black Ariel representation but whatever). The way a character looks is still very important in my opinion (if Ariel was casted with a blonde actress I would still be very pissed), Halle is a very talented actress and I wanna make that clear, but I wish they casted a white red-haired girl instead in place for Ariel and casted Halle as an original black Disney princess, maybe even tiana! I would’ve loved to see Halle act as Tiana, as The Princess and the Frog is super underrated and deserves more attention.
How is Disney erasing Ariel if the 1989 animated film featuring a white Ariel still exists on DVD and on Disney+?
A black Cinderella played by Brandy in Rodgers & Hammerstein’s “Cinderella” (1997) doesn’t erase a white Cinderella played by Julie Andrews in Rodgers & Hammerstein’s “Cinderella” (1957).
What matters is that she's an original character. She's not JUST the little mermaid. The little mermaid can be whatever race.
My thing is that this is ARIEL. If someone swapped the race of any of my original characters, regardless of if their race is important to the story or not, I would be upset. I'd rather they just make a new character instead. Create a new mermaid with a new name. And then there's no problem.
Like I mention in the video, characters like Cinderella, Rapunzel, Little Red Riding Hood, and others can look however because they've been interpreted in so many ways throughout history--they don't have an official look. Likewise, The Little Mermaid can look like anything BUT Ariel, who is super specific, can not...or rather, should not.
If it were an original character, I wouldn't say anything. Representation is great! But create original characters for them and not race-swap old ones. We shouldn't say "well, it's better than nothing." Standards should be higher than that.
Let a pre-established character have their qualities and create new ones for us to love. Everyone deserves originality and respect.
Maybe Halle did get the role just on pure talent. Idk. But the current political climate makes it hard to know the exact agenda of everyone. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, unfortunately. >__
@@TheArtisticAloubellI don't think Ariel's creator gives a f**k about her "race swap" 💀
Here's my point of view, i'm not too fond of Ariel who happens to have a skintone of dark tan, but i'm not overtly bashful about it, i just want a character who brings whatever to the table. And yes, I'm a person who happens to be African too, and to be frank I just like to be part of the crowd who likes to do things for fun and not forcing to be a workaholic or being a reflection of representation when all of the people has something to watch, so no amount of strawman arguments can convince me otherwise.
I agree, and it’s even with the newer marvel movies- their becoming more about feminism then story and growth, for example: she-hulk, her character was AWFUL, she had no growth, she didn’t care about the well-being or needs of the citizens, she was too hooked upon the ‘feminism’ build, she was to overpowered and strong- she didn’t have flaws with her strength unlike the OG hulk- he was claiming to where he was, he had depth- she-hulk had none of that, she got her powers and right away she could use it to a full extent.
I personally don’t care that the Ariel live-action was black, she looks amazing she’s wonderful, but- I still few Disney could’ve made a new story like the little mermaid with a main black character, and like you said- she could’ve had a different name to not erase the og.
AGAIN THESE ARE MY OPINIONS SKSKSKKSKSKS
I don't care about the little mermaid's race being swapped, I just want whoever is playing her to slay the vocals, but it's Halle so I already know she's about to kill it
And the fact that the new Ariel will have more girl power and female empowerment and won't be defined by needing a man or relying on a man's love in response to Ariel being a typical damsel in distress, the remake is going to clobber the original.
@@jonnyboy4289 Honestly my issue with the animated film was how Ariel gave up her special interest in human culture for Eric because the plot seemed more focus on pursuing romance than pursuing knowledge.
I hope the remake puts an emphasis on Ariel’s special interest in human culture by showing Ariel apply her decades worth of knowledge on land. Perhaps like in “Beauty and the Beast”, Prince Eric loans Ariel his library so she can get her questions answered.
If “Fever Pitch” can show that Ben can have his special interest in the Boston Red Sox AND his love for Lindsey, then the live action remake of “The Little Mermaid” can show that Ariel can have her special interest in human culture AND her love for Prince Eric.
I love the way you color eyes ✨️ I sometimes feel bad for having this same sentiment because I'm also black and when I tell people this I'm seen as less black or "for the other team" or a "pick me" person. I'm sorry my views don't align 😅
Are you black, though? I don't believe people who claim to be black on social media
Thank you
It seems to me that Disney is erasing everything that has to do with Walt or alter it in some way and I know what you're going to say The Little Mermaid wasn't made by Walt but the concept was and placed into the vault and later released!🔱
I’m actually glad someone else who is also black is talking about this for so long it’s always been the same people praising this decision (by same I mean not black and usually white [not that that’s bad obviously])
Edit: forgot the trident 🔱
You know what I found hilarious about the backlash to The little Mermaid, it finally got white girls to promote diverse books in some Booktube spaces. I know for a fact, they didn't care about these black authors and stories before. So they're not likely to support the movie about Gabriella the Mermaid. Original movies tank at the box office. Investors want their money back.
@@suzygirl1843 I remember watching a disastrous video saying that if you critique a show with minorities in it you just hate that minority. I think they think they’re “helping” but really it just comes off as preachy and ignorant
@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie Well, I think that when there's actual equal opportunity its a problem for you. I think you're deflecting most of the time and circumventing your own biases. People DO have prejudice - the same white people complaining about Halle were okay with making Queen Latifah's Ursula because she is a negative stereotype of black women like Kanye West says, so your opinions mean little to me because you want minorities a specific way that pleases you - even if you don't realize it.
@@suzygirl1843 if you representing us do it because you care not because you want twitter points also it’s not just me most black people are against the changes
@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie Those little girls on Tik Tok weren't. Nick Fury, The Boys' Black Noir and A train race changes were fine with white boys. I think white girls are the ones who are territorial while white men are more generous and open minded. Black women never should've joined the Feminist movement.
Wait- wasn’t there already a live action little mermaid? Like back in 2018 or 2019? I saw one on tv and it was made in a theater?? But great vid!
The thing about Disney is that they counted on Halle Baily getting hate. They want to milk the live action remake trend for as long and as often as they can, and the only way to do that now is to distract everyone with bigger drama. They're martyring her by kicking up as much fuss as they can. And it's working, any legitimate skepticism people voice over the other questionable changes to the story are drowned out by this single change. All of these movies as a whole are really bad, but they make a lot of money, and they're not going to stop until Disney finds more IP to ruin.
To be honest I stopped caring about the live action movies. But I was quite honestly surprised by people who felt blindsided by the upcoming live action little mermaid movie. Since a few years ago in the same year or year after the live action Cinderella movie came out, I'm pretty sure Disney went out and said that Halle will be playing Ariel, so this has been planned for a long while.
I think they realized that Tiana is a frog for 80% of her movie, which won't be justified in live action and that would offend folks so they racebended on of the others who weren't human.
I feel like it changes a lot about representation.. but it doesn't really matter. I don't have a problem with Ariel being black other than its weird that it has changed to me I've grown up knowing the look of the characters but I also feel like they're just trying to erase the older one . (Ariel = has her own traits probably should look like her) (idk but I agree with you I'm not racist and do not support any racism but I can get why being black isn't a personality taking somethings Identity and changing it is weird . but I think the new remake may be a cool one but we'll see!) (🫧🔱) (holy shit I was the first comment 🤨🤨)
Can't really be erasing anything if the old one is still there. The MCU doesn't erase the original comics. The new iterations of TMNT, Monster High, and Ducktales don't cancel out their predecessors. The Disney Reboots don't erase the classics. They just tell a similar story.
Marvel and DC, I think, are exceptions to the rule given their long history of having multiple universes and characters can look however. Ideally, though, race-swaps of any kind just wouldn't happen.
And most of the things you mentioned didn't change the race or something super inherent to the character. Personalities might have been altered, styles, and maybe fashion changed, but changing someone's race is a different thing entirely.
It's just feels icky to me and super lazy.
If they just gave the mermaid a different name I wouldn't have a problem.
@@TheArtisticAloubell Nothing wrong if it's a you problem. Race after all is a social construct made by Angelo-Saxxons in the 1600's in order for them to have the power. It's one of the many reason why I don't really care about race swapping unless it affects their ethnicity which it this case, it really doesn't. One thing you gotta know about reboots is that it instantly is a separate universe. Not just for Marvel or DC, but the same goes for TMNT, Monster High, Ducktales, and whatever. Monster High has G1, G2, and G3. TMNT has 1987, 2003, 2012, 2018, and the upcoming 2023. Ducktales has 1995 and 2017. The Little Mermaid now has 1985(I think?) and 2023. This is another universe separate from the classic. Same goes for any Broadway adaptation. On Broadway, Ariel has been played by many different people of many different backgrounds inckuding Au'ili Cravalo who you might know as the voice of Moana. The classic version of Ariel isn't going anywhere. It's still on Disney+ or 🏴☠️🦜☠️ right next to the original Lion King or Aladdin.
the intro 😂
That comment that you made about Ariel has to be Ariel makes absolutely no sense. Just because her skin isn’t pale that doesn’t make her any less Ariel. Let’s say Ariel was casted as a white woman, but she was more overweight. You guys would still complain. There are black girls who are born with red hair. Ariel just have to have a beautiful singing voice and the red hair. If the Disney parks can have both black Cinderella and white Cinderella they can do the same for Ariel. And this is coming from a ginger. The whole thing about redheads won’t get to see themselves is kinda hypocritical. Og Ariel is still here she never left. This is the first time that a live action movie in Disney is actually going to be AMAZING. The characters a fish for god sakes.
I think my comment makes perfect sense. I have original characters of my own, and if someone changed their race, even if their race isn't a focal point of their story, I would be upset. Characters have unique looks and personalities. Ariel is her own character. She isn't just ANY little mermaid. She's Ariel. Make a new little mermaid with a new name and new identity. Like I said, I don't care about the race of a mermaid, I care about Ariel's race. I care about Ariel's look. Characters deserve to be respected when they are unique. Want a black mermaid? That's great! Give her her own name.
That's just my take on the matter.
@@TheArtisticAloubell I completely understand what you mean and I agree to a point. but society has a pattern of doing this poc characters. Why is it when it happen to white leads everyone throws a fit. Is suddenly okay. No. Ariel spirit is what made her character. Just because she 3 shades dark, doesn’t make her any less Ariel. No one complain when Cinderella was made black with Brandy’s version. And believe it or no Cinderella it just has high in popularity. I want original princess. Yes. But with how Marvel and DC treats their poc it’s no wonder
Disney doing this. I didn’t mean to come across rude. That was never my intention.
@@amandabradford576 it's different with Cinderella because she never had an official look and has looked different ever since her inception. Ariel, on the other hand, is a modern original character with an established look. (The original little mermaid was not Ariel and she can look like anything). And I would be upset with any race being swapped. Original characters deserve the respect to look like themselves, not just keep their personality.
But in any case, I once again appreciate you being civil and peaceful about this. Thank you!
@@amandabradford576 and you weren't being rude. You're fine =)
I'd like to mention that the little mermaid from the original story does actually have a discription of what she looks like, yes she's white but that's because she's Danish and a very culturally important character with a statue of her in Copenhagen which is beautiful. I love Princess and the frog and wouldn't want her to be race swapped either (I'm not going to use names because I'm bad at spelling)
I don't like race swapping at all
Lmao the intro
YES! This was what I've been thinking!
I've been looking at this movie with furrowed brows- I wouldn't mind if they made the Little Mermaid black, IF they made their own new spin, a new 'Little Mermaid' who is not Ariel- a Little Mermaid with a different personality and motivations. Heck, I think that'd even be more interesting, at least they'd be giving fans something new :/
Hey Aloubell. Which Disney princess would you like to be for one day if you had the chance? For me it would be Merida. Archery is my favorite. Love your videos. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍♥️
HMMMMM....great question! Maybe...Rapunzel? She lives in a beautiful world...and is married to Eugene lol
Or adaptation of a other Andersen's fairytale that is less know to some people
PS:I have nothing agenst the actors and they are just doing there job
Yes exactly!
What’s sad is that this film is likely going to be on Disney+, yet will not add their Roger’s and Hammerstine’s Cinderella or Fillmore to Disney+ which were unique, diverse and had strong black characters that took center stage. Disney used to present representation by giving other characters of different races their own story and characters. Now, Disney just wants to give the minorities and women sloppy seconds.
I was so mixed.
At first, I was surprised because the news said Disney is not having a red headed white Ariel. It is the “it wasn’t in the book” argument. Than I got over it. When I heard Halle Bailey got the role, I was excited because her voice is great and her acting skills are good. Some say they wanted her to be Tianna.
Anyways, again, I was excited. Than I heard it was a hoax and did not know what to believe. And there a bunch of comments stating that you don’t have a lot of representation for red headed girls and erasing that hurts that group.
I am in the middle with this new adaptation.
I could picture both versions of Ariel could be in the park. Girls would love to see both iterations.
I have two fairytales that could have interesting adaptations. First is Blue Beard which could easily be turned into a suspenseful horror movie as the protagonist tries to hide that she knows Blue Beard's secret and perhaps try to kill him for what he has done. And second is the Black School, but not for the story, rather, the setting of the school itself. It's a literally underground school that teaches black magic, with the students reading books with flaming text in the dark cave. There really are no teachers or staff and they are given food by mysterious hands that come from the walls. It's such a weird setting that you could have a lot of fun with. Hogwarts, eat your heart out!
sounds really cool! ^_^
A book I would love to see on tv would be keepers of the lost cities. By now, it has 8.5 books and a very interesting lore, which would be awesome in a movie, if done right( also cast Dwayne Johnson as Alden Vacker because I’ve always imagined him looking like that for some bizarre reason😂)
Very cool!
I dread the day they decide to remake The Black Cauldron. Because that one's based on an entire book series that has established character looks.
I find it kind of sad that People of Color can’t be cast into a role, without people assuming that they were just given the role because of their race.
I didn’t know who Halle Bailey was before this trailer, but from what I’ve gathered she’s a great singer and a really respected artist. From my perspective it seems like they probably gave her the role because she was the best of the people who auditioned.
If it were an original character, I wouldn't say anything. Representation is great! But create original characters for them and not race-swap old ones. We shouldn't say "well, it's better than nothing." Standards should be higher than that.
Let a pre-established character have their qualities and create new ones for us to love. Everyone deserves originality and respect.
Maybe Halle did get the role just on pure talent. Idk. But the current political climate makes it hard to know the exact agenda of everyone. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, unfortunately. >__
I can already see the angy 5 year olds and jobless twitter ppl tryna dislike this masterpiece
I really agree with your statement because, honestly... its kinda hard to disagree? The main reason disney makes all the lve action movies is to get them cash ya know? Since black representation, female rights and pride representation is the trend these days (not sayin that its a bad thing tho), disney would obviously try to take advantage of this and try to make more money instead of making heartwarming stories that you could cry abt. I mean, disney kiiinda doesnt make any original stories? Theyre mostly their own version of the brothers grim or already existing fairytales.
I was pissed since ariel is my fav princess and i wanted to see her as a ginger white woman but im racist of i say that. Id gate it if they pulled this bs on any of the princess
You aren't racist for saying that DX I'm sorry people have labeled you as such!
@@TheArtisticAloubell like you daid its not ok to do representation by taking away anothers. Like how often do you see red headed girls in a main role and not be the villain?
🫧 To my mind, as long as Ariel has red hair (she does), it doesn’t matter which shade her skin is.
For me it matter she is always white even in the og Andersen tale Hey disney ! Time to learn to make your own and not ruin the ones you already have and loved!
Melissa McCarthy as Ursula is the casting that really bothered me. Ariel getting race swapped was already expected since she's a redhead
The redheads in stories are really getting the short end of the stick DX
And now they're making Annabeth from Percy Jackson black. Maybe if more black people were visibly against it this nonsense will stop.
Too many minorities are accepting the used valentines and need to realize they deserve better, original characters! Not the scraps of others!
@@TheArtisticAloubell I def agree. As a black girl myself I think we need to start demanding way better representation than just taking already established non-black characters and turning them black. Because if we keep accepting this, the bare minimum, as “good rep” then companies like Disney aren’t even going to try and make original characters, they’ll just keep rehashing old ones and its SO FRUSTRATING that so many people seem to have absolutely no problem with that :/
I already liked you for loving Starlight.
8:31 The Alladin story originally takes place not in an Arab country but in Central Asia and Western China, where the Uighurs and Tajiks, muslim Central Asian populations reside. So most of the characters wouldn't have had brown skin or Arab features but more Central-Asian features that look more like a Chinese or a Korean.
I’m white and a center-leftist, but your argument is very intriguing and persuading. I was so happy to see that compilation of little African American girls reacting to Ariel being Black in the remake because it was like they were seeing themselves on the screen (I hope I’m not speaking for the black community bc it’s not my place, it’s just what I’ve seen), and I was worried that you might take the far conservative perspective like Matt Walsh, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, etc. But no. You had a completely different take of your own. I’m a subscriber so I did want to see your opinions on this because the topic in general is real hot! From a hopefully general perspective (pls don’t kill me), your points were understandable, and you recognized both sides and saw the nuance in the topic. You didn’t want to just choose a side like hopping on a bandwagon, but formed your own outlook.
I respect you a lot even though I didn’t personally agree with some of what you said. Don’t worry about the general public because they can be very sensitive no matter what side they’re on. You’re very brave for speaking your mind, and I support you.
Oh and one more thing! 🔱
thank you so much for your civil and kind comment
@@TheArtisticAloubell of course aloubell!
I'm from Latin America, I'm Mestiza with black hair, i don't look like Ariel, i don't look like Tiana, i don't look like Jasmine, i don't look like Esmeralda, i don't look like Elsa, i don't look like Cinderella etc etc, should i start demanding representation so the whole Latin America can be on the big screen? 😂
But really though, all these remakes are lazy and so creatively bankrupt, it's like trying to watch a marathon of Johnny Test, it's never ending and quite tiring.
But i just stick to manga and anime, it's the one thing that made start drawing.
As a black person myself I care for representation because different kinds of people can create their own stories and there own characters with different backgrounds and personality
And for me personally I like to see different stories with different backgrounds because I want to be challenged
You can do this as long as you create your own unique character This would be still fine if they didn't want to destroy the original Ariel we love. Keep it original, create a new one
@@knuckles9195 ok? Don't have a heart attack on me then
@@knuckles9195 I don't really care because people have a right to do things that they want
@@iultimatecartoon In this Case MLP should be Black to. I think it's no problem if they turn your fave Pony characters black 🤔 Don't you ? 😉
@@queenkurumi8504 My Little pony G4 ponies do have a races it's literally Earth ponies, Pegasus and unicorn and alicorn and more races out there and countries if My Little pony generation 5 explained it or go to other countries