I am a physician and I love your channel. All of these charms appear to be instructions for HOW to set and splint a broken bone. Literal instructions for healers and non-healers, put into poetic/prayer/magic verse to facilitate remembering it. In med school there are still many mnemonic devices to this day that accomplish the same thing.
While visiting Ireland in 2016 I resprained my ankle so our inkeeper suggested visiting Dan O Neil a traditional bone setter . He treats race horses ,dogs and people and its first come first serve by donation. He definitely saved my holiday .
In my case, a stone broke my bone, tore my flesh and splattered my blood, and a plant (cotton bandage) was used to wrap the wound. A charm was uttered over the wound (she said solemly: do you have any insurance?) and more plants were brought out by me (linen-paper money) and sacrificed for the benefit of influencing a good outcome. She then asked: "Do you have any cosmogonic beliefs?" and I answered: "Of course I do, I'm an Indo-European". "Good, In that case then" she said with grave ceremony, "we must now press flesh to flesh in a magical ritual, or your swelling will not go down properly." I asked, "Are you trained in casting spells and the medical arts?" She said, "Oh no, this is a home remedy".
Sounds to me like the knife correspond to surgery, the plants refer to pharmacology, and the spells refer to lifestyle changes. Pretty good summary of major approaches to medicine we still use today.
The charm about Jesus which ends “flesh to flesh” is interesting in light of Augustine’s De Trinitate (On the Trinity) in which he writes that Jesus, as the Son of God, was incarnated as the Son of Man, a human, in order to save humankind; that Christ was like a medicine applied to a wound or disease, which was humanity’s sin; and that, for the cure to be most effective, the method of salvation had to match or correspond with the disease. Therefore, in order to save humankind (the disease), Christ had to become human (the medicine). Hence “flesh to flesh”.
it never ceases to amaze me how similar traditional beliefs were across the world. I'm Thailand (from India), mantras that heal broken bones typically also stop bleeding as well. that these two styles of healing are grouped together in both cultures is not a coincidence imo 👍
Another ausome lesson Jon. On the healing of the bones, reminded me of a book that I read back in the 80's called (Mutant Message down under). The author traveled to Australia and went on a walk about. On her journey one of the group members broke his leg, they performed a healing process/ritual over the person. He was up and walking in days. If you get the chance check it out, I think you will find the book most interesting. Thanks again for sharing another wonderful video. Looking forward to your next video. Have a great weekend.
This man has helped kindle more magic and understanding than many. He's helped on my journey into a more peaceful yet purposeful existence. Plus I do have a few cups of Moroccan mint as I digest information more and more. A great gratitude goes out to him. Slainté brother
Just want to say that I ordered, and received, my Crecganford tea mug. The pictures on the website don't do it justice. Also, I LOVE your channel. Amazing content.
I've not heard of the ennead before. It's interesting that the old words for things like week or two week that we have and had in English are based on number of nights, not number of days. We still use "fortnight" in British English, and in historical novels I've seen the word "sennight". Fourteen nights and seven nights respectively, though in the modern day we use fortnight to mean "two weeks". So ennead sounds like it is literally "nine nights"? It's interesting how all this backs up what is now being said that it was the nights, not the days, that were focused on in ancient times, and it even shows in how they counted time and named portions of time. But also, regarding the Irish Celtic, the number 9 seems to crop up a lot. Is it a sacred number like 7? What are the origins of these sacred numbers, if that's what they are?
Can't say for 100% that it came from culture mixing, but 9 is sacred in Norse religion. With so much shifting in culture through conquest between the Roman Empire & the Dark Ages, it's hard to know what all came from where, but it's a topic I'm enjoying so far.
So interesting. I’ve heard amazing stories about Australian Aboriginal healing techniques, specifically with regard to broken bones. All peoples who commune with nature hold such wisdom that we’ve lost. ♥️
Same! One story was from a nurse who says she’s never seen anyone heal a wound heal as fast. All I know about it is that some of the women went into the bush and came back with plants that they applied to the wound (no broken bones but it was pretty big) and it healed in less than half the time we’d expect with western medicine. Their medicinal knowledge is incredible!!!
PIE *med // *mend- "take appropriate measures" // "physical defect, fault" To take appropriate measures to correct a physical defect connected? seems along cladistic possiblities
The second T in Tuatha is silent. Some people even treat the H silent. For similarities in Gaeilge see Dublin's name in Irish; Átha Cliath. Both Ts are silent.
there is a book available online about healing herbs by Nickolas Culpeper think it dates to the 16th century i have read bits of it but can't recall reading about healing bones. although now I'm curious if any of those herbs were used with incantations in years past
that final ebermann quote its very powerfull indeed. i would also like to think that even early egiptian civilizations or maybe even further back people from neo and paleolitic eras used bones and similar objects as a way or conjure to cure their loved ones. but who knows right? 😅
The prayer is a simple way of teaching medicine. As a nurse I can see it as how we reset broken limbs. The most important being the marrow to avoid blood poisoning and the splint with the leaves to hold it in place.
One way I have commented to those who deride 'witch-doctors' is to say that 'The villagers do not give their chickens to the unsuccessful witchdoctor'. An evidence of this is the vast number of healed broken bones of the previous peoples around the world; One does not see [very often] healed bones of aurochs or dinosaurs.
Interesting that you mention Nuada the King of the Tuatha de Danann. My understanding is when Nuada lost his arm at the Battle of Mag Tuired, he lost the kingship as the Tuatha de had a custom that a king had to be whole to rule. He only regained the kingship when Dian Cecht fashioned a silver arm, hence he was named, Nuada Airgetlam. I wonder if this practise were a person's status was affected by losing a body part was widespread in was this just confined to the Irish myths?
I broke my ankle at the top of Loughcrew megalithic site in Meath Ireland. It was February and staryed to snow ehike i was at the summit with only my young daughter and sheep to help me! I crawled down on all fours with the sheep 😅
It's amazing, how often these spells/charms are still used in some form or another ,,, bone to bone,,,,,,,, We have all been to a funeral, Ashes to ashes,,, Well how about this for an example of influence Spok , your mind to my mind, 😂 haha or is that just coincidence! 🤪
wow, the root for medical goes all the way back to proto- european, and we know about it? what an amazing world! thank you for that trivial, yet fascinating tidbit
The song Nesso, by Heilung has a similar spell in it’s lyrics. In that song they speak of a dragon, or worm, If I’m not mistaken. How would that fit within this context?
My first thought was, maybe, a snake stone or other stone from an animal. A lot of old cultures think weird bits of bone, or hard things pulled from confusing places of an animal had some sort of mystical, healing properties.
Can you answer me please. Why Baldur went to downside. He was good and nice so he should be go to upside to the stars to another Planet something. But not down. İ guess somethings not telling the truth or stories changed after time. What do you think bro??? Sorry for English im wrote from Turkey loves. B.S.
I am a physician and I love your channel. All of these charms appear to be instructions for HOW to set and splint a broken bone. Literal instructions for healers and non-healers, put into poetic/prayer/magic verse to facilitate remembering it. In med school there are still many mnemonic devices to this day that accomplish the same thing.
While visiting Ireland in 2016 I resprained my ankle so our inkeeper suggested visiting Dan O Neil a traditional bone setter . He treats race horses ,dogs and people and its first come first serve by donation.
He definitely saved my holiday .
Wow! Like to hear more!!
He passed awsy peacefully on March 13 this year.
@@DublinCityHeart
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In my case, a stone broke my bone, tore my flesh and splattered my blood, and a plant (cotton bandage) was used to wrap the wound. A charm was uttered over the wound (she said solemly: do you have any insurance?) and more plants were brought out by me (linen-paper money) and sacrificed for the benefit of influencing a good outcome. She then asked: "Do you have any cosmogonic beliefs?" and I answered: "Of course I do, I'm an Indo-European". "Good, In that case then" she said with grave ceremony, "we must now press flesh to flesh in a magical ritual, or your swelling will not go down properly." I asked, "Are you trained in casting spells and the medical arts?" She said, "Oh no, this is a home remedy".
haha...I see what you did there
@@Sheepdog1314 I'm just saying the old myths still live, the actors just wear different clothes.
Well said lad. Well said 🥂
Lol Natural Medicine
Sounds to me like the knife correspond to surgery, the plants refer to pharmacology, and the spells refer to lifestyle changes. Pretty good summary of major approaches to medicine we still use today.
Are there any charms or spells that you would like to know more about, or want to share?
Yeah, the spell chanted by Odin to heal the leg of baldr's horse.
Snake Stones plz
I don't know if this totally fits, but have you ever done a video about skull cults? If not, I would love to see one about that.
I was raised very Catholic, and the rite of transubstantiation always seemed like a magic spell (*edited to change ritual to rite*)
I would like a charm or spell to heal my thyroid.😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤😂
Everytime i see a notification that you put out a new video, i smile and know I'm going to watch a really good video. Thanks!
Thank you, I appreciate that.
@@Crecganford You're welcome!
The charm about Jesus which ends “flesh to flesh” is interesting in light of Augustine’s De Trinitate (On the Trinity) in which he writes that Jesus, as the Son of God, was incarnated as the Son of Man, a human, in order to save humankind; that Christ was like a medicine applied to a wound or disease, which was humanity’s sin; and that, for the cure to be most effective, the method of salvation had to match or correspond with the disease. Therefore, in order to save humankind (the disease), Christ had to become human (the medicine). Hence “flesh to flesh”.
I love how healing magic links back to the creation of the world
Fire was probably used as a cauterizing option.
This is exactly what i was thinking
It never ceases to amaze me how brilliant our ancient ancestors were.
it never ceases to amaze me how similar traditional beliefs were across the world.
I'm Thailand (from India), mantras that heal broken bones typically also stop bleeding as well. that these two styles of healing are grouped together in both cultures is not a coincidence imo
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I agree that is why I am so attracted to human culture history
I'm old now and I say "ger" all the time. Mainly when I am trying to get up!😂😂😂
Another ausome lesson Jon. On the healing of the bones, reminded me of a book that I read back in the 80's called (Mutant Message down under). The author traveled to Australia and went on a walk about. On her journey one of the group members broke his leg, they performed a healing process/ritual over the person. He was up and walking in days. If you get the chance check it out, I think you will find the book most interesting. Thanks again for sharing another wonderful video. Looking forward to your next video. Have a great weekend.
Thank you for your kind words.
Instructions unclear: got ripped apart by my brother and made into a new cosmos.
LOL!!
Good one
This man has helped kindle more magic and understanding than many. He's helped on my journey into a more peaceful yet purposeful existence. Plus I do have a few cups of Moroccan mint as I digest information more and more. A great gratitude goes out to him. Slainté brother
Thank you for your kind words, they are appreciated.
Sounds like comfrey is a likely culprit.
Just want to say that I ordered, and received, my Crecganford tea mug. The pictures on the website don't do it justice. Also, I LOVE your channel. Amazing content.
Thank you so much! Your support is appreciated!
Thank you dear 👍
You are an a amazing teacher ❤
Thank you for your kind words.
Another excellent video Jon. It's obvious that the healing arts go back a very long time.
Thank you, I’m glad you found it interesting.
I've not heard of the ennead before. It's interesting that the old words for things like week or two week that we have and had in English are based on number of nights, not number of days. We still use "fortnight" in British English, and in historical novels I've seen the word "sennight". Fourteen nights and seven nights respectively, though in the modern day we use fortnight to mean "two weeks". So ennead sounds like it is literally "nine nights"? It's interesting how all this backs up what is now being said that it was the nights, not the days, that were focused on in ancient times, and it even shows in how they counted time and named portions of time. But also, regarding the Irish Celtic, the number 9 seems to crop up a lot. Is it a sacred number like 7? What are the origins of these sacred numbers, if that's what they are?
Can't say for 100% that it came from culture mixing, but 9 is sacred in Norse religion. With so much shifting in culture through conquest between the Roman Empire & the Dark Ages, it's hard to know what all came from where, but it's a topic I'm enjoying so far.
you do a wonderfull work thanks
Thank you.
Ah definitely a must watch and delight. 😊 This kind of knowledge and topics are just fascinating! ❤
Thank you.
I feel lucky that the algorithm god's showed me the way to Creganford.
So soothing too
I am very intrigued of Eirenean Biblical and Gaelic insights. Thank you.
Another great show.
Great work, thank you!!
I'm a medic. It all makes sense.
Sticks and stone may brake my bone I wish that words can heal me😢
So interesting. I’ve heard amazing stories about Australian Aboriginal healing techniques, specifically with regard to broken bones. All peoples who commune with nature hold such wisdom that we’ve lost. ♥️
Same! One story was from a nurse who says she’s never seen anyone heal a wound heal as fast. All I know about it is that some of the women went into the bush and came back with plants that they applied to the wound (no broken bones but it was pretty big) and it healed in less than half the time we’d expect with western medicine. Their medicinal knowledge is incredible!!!
PIE *med // *mend-
"take appropriate measures" // "physical defect, fault"
To take appropriate measures to correct a physical defect
connected? seems along cladistic possiblities
Medical magick is such an interesting area! Glad to see coverage of it. May ye find the glory-twigs in thy garden soon...
The second T in Tuatha is silent. Some people even treat the H silent. For similarities in Gaeilge see Dublin's name in Irish; Átha Cliath. Both Ts are silent.
there is a book available online about healing herbs by Nickolas Culpeper think it dates to the 16th century
i have read bits of it but can't recall reading about healing bones.
although now I'm curious if any of those herbs were used with incantations in years past
Thanks
that final ebermann quote its very powerfull indeed. i would also like to think that even early egiptian civilizations or maybe even further back people from neo and paleolitic eras used bones and similar objects as a way or conjure to cure their loved ones. but who knows right? 😅
Could you talk about alcemhy too öne day. Nicolas flame ör furcanelli mystery things. Thanks
We got limb-healing incantations before GTA 6
Will you make a video about the ouroborus?
I’m not sure I have to much I can say about this iconography, but if there is something then yes, I would try.
sorry, bit behind on vids right now; just in case it's not covered yet: The Origin and usage of Wands/Staffs/Rods would be interesting. =)
Misdirection, people watch the wand and not the other hand, allowing tricks to be managed.
@@Crecganford ooh, I was expecting it to be somewhat related to royal sceptres.
The prayer is a simple way of teaching medicine. As a nurse I can see it as how we reset broken limbs. The most important being the marrow to avoid blood poisoning and the splint with the leaves to hold it in place.
If Ger means Old, does that mean German means Old Man? Like Odin? I realise man is an English word, but is there any connection there?
I do not believe there is any direct etymological connection as it comes from a Latin term.
@@Crecganford German comes from Latin? Then the Germanic Tribes didn't call themselves that?
One way I have commented to those who deride 'witch-doctors' is to say that 'The villagers do not give their chickens to the unsuccessful witchdoctor'. An evidence of this is the vast number of healed broken bones of the previous peoples around the world; One does not see [very often] healed bones of aurochs or dinosaurs.
Is medic related to mead (the drink) or to fear (Medo in Portuguese )?
It's not linked to mead, I'm not sure about the Portuguese, it may well be.
Interesting that you mention Nuada the King of the Tuatha de Danann. My understanding is when Nuada lost his arm at the Battle of Mag Tuired, he lost the kingship as the Tuatha de had a custom that a king had to be whole to rule. He only regained the kingship when Dian Cecht fashioned a silver arm, hence he was named, Nuada Airgetlam. I wonder if this practise were a person's status was affected by losing a body part was widespread in was this just confined to the Irish myths?
Yes, the king and the land is one, and so if the king loses a body part the land will become poorer or sick.
Makes sense. But if the land is afflicted, say by drought, then would human sacrifice be seen as a solution?
I broke my ankle at the top of Loughcrew megalithic site in Meath Ireland. It was February and staryed to snow ehike i was at the summit with only my young daughter and sheep to help me!
I crawled down on all fours with the sheep 😅
Omg, definitely playing hamrer hippyer by heilung as background music. Hangadyr Hamingja!!!!
While visiting Ireland in 2016 i resprained my ankle so I visited a traditional Bone Setter names Dan Smith
It's amazing, how often these spells/charms are still used in some form or another ,,, bone to bone,,,,,,,,
We have all been to a funeral,
Ashes to ashes,,,
Well how about this for an example of influence
Spok , your mind to my mind, 😂 haha or is that just coincidence! 🤪
Are you related to Kent Survival ?
I've never heard of them, I will check just in case I have a long lost brother.
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wow, the root for medical goes all the way back to proto- european, and we know about it? what an amazing world! thank you for that trivial, yet fascinating tidbit
xD I find a lot of bald men attractive, so I don't really see it as an affliction (lol)! Thank you for another fantastic video
The song Nesso, by Heilung has a similar spell in it’s lyrics. In that song they speak of a dragon, or worm, If I’m not mistaken. How would that fit within this context?
I think any healing is a combination of genuinely mystical event or thinking, deliberate intervention not always understood, and will of the patient.
I’d watch more of your videos if I could understand you better. I like to listen before bed, and I have to concentrate too much for my liking.
Alas, my accent and dialect are pretty much non-movable now, and so there is not much I can do to improve this for now.
Would type of stone have mattered? Like should you avoid softer stones?
My first thought was, maybe, a snake stone or other stone from an animal. A lot of old cultures think weird bits of bone, or hard things pulled from confusing places of an animal had some sort of mystical, healing properties.
@@MrChristianDT or like would color have been connected? Maybe you’d want white stones or red ones
@@DarkBlueSkys I have no idea.
Can you answer me please. Why Baldur went to downside. He was good and nice so he should be go to upside to the stars to another Planet something. But not down. İ guess somethings not telling the truth or stories changed after time. What do you think bro??? Sorry for English im wrote from Turkey loves. B.S.
There was no judgement in the time of Baldur, you only went to one place, the Otherworld.
I took "fire" to mean "controlled burning," which, heals the Earth (though ERADICATES whatever life(ves) call(s) that area home) LmMFaO! ;) :P :o)
And just what do YOU KNOW about baldness...? LmMFaO! (Everything!)