Nice disclaimer, Joe. Just crazy how much discussion there is about quality issues the owner of the print does not see, and hopefully not care as long he/she is pleased with the outcome.
It truly gets to me when someone showcases their print which they are extremely happy with and then other rip him apart. People can just be happy with what they have but many like to boast about their abilities by belittling others
Joe, nice video! Not only do you show what the setting does but also what the variation does. And you show how each of us can find the setting for our printer. Very valuable info!
Thanks for making this video. I went through the steps with Cura (you would not believe the initial bridge settings in that) and I ended up with very similar results to yours but my bridges don't look like a dog's-breakfast anymore!
Thanks for introducing me to Ideamaker! I'm a PrusaSlicer tragic, but I can see that the Ideamaker interface has some attractive features. Oh, and by the way. You're a lucky man, living in Malta. I've visited your islands a few times, and I've always returned with happy memories. I'm particularly fond of the Maltese. Maybe my knowing a bit about the George Cross matter, and also some other history helped me to make friends. But, I do think the Maltese are a people who do try their best to make visitors welcome. You also make some top-notch wines which few people are aware of (Marsovin comes to mind!). I wouldn't play water polo against any Maltese, though! Bests Chris. Tasmania, Australia.
Just wanted to say thanks for the videos, I'm following along to dial in PetG using IdeaMaker for my CR-10S. I've watched several, but I just noticed the license plate on the wall. NICE nod to a classic game.
Très très intéressant. Merci de partager tous ces test avec ideamaker. Les fonctionnalités avancées pour l'ingénierie, m'ont fait basculer et abandonner les autres slicers...Merci, Merci...
Excellent tutorial. I also do this same process for EACH layer of my bridge multi-layer Cura slicer settings (0.2mm bridge, then 0.4mm, then 0.6mm). I find it handy to place the bridges up to the light to see if each added layer is truly bonding well, or not.
thank you for this guide. i never thought about this trial and error process. this helped me a lot! now i am printing with PETG and im happy with the result :)
Absolutely love your work. This has been an issue with me for sometime. I also use Ideamaker. Love this program. Great work. Will continue the journey.
Why didn't you try density and flow rates of less than 100%? In cura when it does bridging it always has the first two bridging layers at like 75% and 85% flow rate and density. The third layer it finally Up's them up to above 100%. In CURA's setting guide it explains that these values are set below 100% at first because it allows the bridge to do a few things. First off by having the density less than 100% it gives gaps between each filament strand so air can flow around it and it can cool faster. The idea is that if it cools faster then it becomes rigid in the air as fast as possible so it does not sag. The reason the flow rate is less than 100% is again for cooling reasons. Less material flowing out makes the lines thinner and thus able to cool faster. Less flow also means that the filament weighs less, so its own weight doesn't bring it down and make it sag. Once it has the first two layers of the bridge set up, then it has a support structure in place. Then the third layer can have values of over 100% to fill in the gaps that are left behind. Is there any reasoning why with idea maker that you do not do bridging with values below 100%?
Hello Joe, nice video! bring it on 😁 if we don't have the bottom layer to squish the top layer we need to adjust the flow rate, same happens with infill
Excelent process of rulling out variables... Same stuff that I do when I want to dial in several related settings to one particular area of print quality. Wouldn't print temperature affect also big on bridging? Congrats and thks for all the helpfull info!
I love this. Would really like to see more videos on tuning slicer settings. Nobody does this kind of stuff anymore. They just build printers visit factories and talk bad about companies that don't sponsor them. Keep up there great work Joe!
3:44 I don't have the same thing as you have. Just the same speed for all of them. I followed everything you did. Did you do something to your settings prior to the video?
Thanks Joe for the video, are you planning in doing some beginners guide to ideamaker? I really want start using IM and it would be really useful seeing how you start an new filament profile.
great video. out of curiosity, what did you use for the top solid fill line type? lines, or rectilinear? changing this option in my version of ideamaker changing the line type for bridging. thanks
This would be an excellent place use DOE. It is a technique for finding the best values for a process that has several parameters without having to try every combination.
Love the video I think Idear maker is getting very good if I ever get a rais E2 then Ill use it how did slicer (prusa) cope not as many setting for bridges ???
You know I have not been able to dial my bridging in with PETG, but I have often wondered if I had a fan of sub 0c air blowing on the filament behind the nozzle (directly onto the filament) would that help? Maybe use a peltier device to chill the air to below ambient and hit the filament?
Subcribed the moment I saw this video. Are you planning on adding more profiles to the Ideamaker library for the Ender 3? For me it was a great help because with the compare function I can easily find out what things I can tune to my own profiles.
Hello, how do you ensure the lines making the bridge do not start just at the edge but a bit farther? When I try to make bridges with IdeaMaker the lines begin just at the edge.
What was the result of changing the fan speed? You show some results after explaining the changes you did but you do not explicitly say that those results are for changing the fan speed. I would think that the first one pictured was the one at 25% and it looks to be the better result. Can you confirm?
Great video and SO helpful! I'm only a month in with 3D printing and learning a lot. Have you tossed that bridge test up on Thingaverse or anywhere? I am not touching 3D modeling until I have a good handle on printing. Thanks! Michael Flashforge Adventurer 4
I am now trying to bridge for the fist time with my ender 3 v2 cura 4.8.0 but before the printing i can see in the slicer that it makes 1 brigelayer run but after that it wants to make a normal layer with crosslines in between the walls of the second and third layer. I have marked the setting that the bridge is multiple layers but after slicing it remains just as before. If i say that the liine direction of the toplayers must be 90 degrees than it makes the 2 most top layers in the lengts direction of the bridge as i want but not the second and third layer. The thichness of the bridge is 1mm and sliced at 0.2 mm so 5 layers in total. And set the toplayers a 5 layers. Can anybody tell me how i can make 5 layers in the direction of the bridge? I think that printing the second and third layer in this way it will not going to be going well.
no idea but if you enable more parameter with overhang and so on it's seem to work at least it's working on the top layer for me, it's work better with layer param as it's faster if you dont want do sequential printing ( and setup of it)
not sure if it that but on the model it showing the mesh on the same direction now add "fixed bridging angle" to 90deg on the preview and when im priting . at the end i cannot get ideamaker to print good bridging for my anycubic predator ... had to move to cura it's really anyoing.... i think this tuts is not valid anymore and need to reworked. I have good brindging i cura and i have totaly no clue why tbh.
hi there dude ! (its now april 2022) and (sorry i dont know your name ) ive found an watched your vids on ideamaker as like you ive just started using it .. i love the UI ..... and ive now subbed to your channel . i was wondering will you be doing a tutorial on extrusion problems within ideamaker as im having a problem with the walls of a print not adhearing together ( you can easily slide a piece of paper between the shells ,walls (whatever you call them ) i hope you ,or anyone can help with this problem thank you .
Use half a spool to create best possible profile and next time you buy exactly same filament, you may be surprised as manufacturer change a recipe by a notch and you have to start again... After few 100 of hours setting up everything and tuning your printer by printing a parts for a fully functional device you realise there is actually nothing you would like to print except another part to tune your printer even more 🤣 😂 priceless
Thanks for the presentation, but I noticed you don’t really explain the purpose behind your actions or the reasoning for the sequences. For example, when discussing extrusion width, it seems there’s some misunderstanding. To achieve a specific extrusion width, like 110%, you need to apply the extrusion flow onto a surface, allowing the melted filament to spread under the nozzle to the desired width. Without a proper surface, you’re just pushing more material, which won’t increase the width and will create gaps between passes. The same goes for adjusting fan speeds-there needs to be more explanation about why you’re making these changes rather than just presenting variations in values.
Sorry, but Ideamaker sucks! Doesn't work for me, unfortunately! Eventhough I did everything you showed in the Video, but the Bridges are all sliced with the same speed. Additionally, the bridges are being sliced in a 45° direction. :-(
Nice disclaimer, Joe. Just crazy how much discussion there is about quality issues the owner of the print does not see, and hopefully not care as long he/she is pleased with the outcome.
It truly gets to me when someone showcases their print which they are extremely happy with and then other rip him apart. People can just be happy with what they have but many like to boast about their abilities by belittling others
A series on tuning every aspect of a 3D print? About time someone did this. Big thumbs up.
Thank you. Ideamaker is a great program. Cura needs competition. This helps others use the program. It is my number 1 slicer
Ideamaker is the best slicer to date I have ever used. Thanks
Joe, nice video! Not only do you show what the setting does but also what the variation does. And you show how each of us can find the setting for our printer. Very valuable info!
Thanks for making this video. I went through the steps with Cura (you would not believe the initial bridge settings in that) and I ended up with very similar results to yours but my bridges don't look like a dog's-breakfast anymore!
HE'S ALIVE!!! OH THANK GOD that beautiful hairstyle is just too good
Thanks for introducing me to Ideamaker! I'm a PrusaSlicer tragic, but I can see that the Ideamaker interface has some attractive features.
Oh, and by the way. You're a lucky man, living in Malta. I've visited your islands a few times, and I've always returned with happy memories. I'm particularly fond of the Maltese. Maybe my knowing a bit about the George Cross matter, and also some other history helped me to make friends. But, I do think the Maltese are a people who do try their best to make visitors welcome.
You also make some top-notch wines which few people are aware of (Marsovin comes to mind!).
I wouldn't play water polo against any Maltese, though!
Bests
Chris. Tasmania, Australia.
Just wanted to say thanks for the videos, I'm following along to dial in PetG using IdeaMaker for my CR-10S. I've watched several, but I just noticed the license plate on the wall. NICE nod to a classic game.
You have found a niche topic for your channel, something not covered nearly enough on TH-cam. I am subscribing hoping you continue down this path.
Très très intéressant. Merci de partager tous ces test avec ideamaker. Les fonctionnalités avancées pour l'ingénierie, m'ont fait basculer et abandonner les autres slicers...Merci, Merci...
Great info as always. I would love to see you do a video on the "basics" or "essentials" of Ideamaker.
Second that, lots of videos about Cura and Prusa Slicer out there, but almost nothing on IdeaMaker.
Excellent tutorial. I also do this same process for EACH layer of my bridge multi-layer Cura slicer settings (0.2mm bridge, then 0.4mm, then 0.6mm). I find it handy to place the bridges up to the light to see if each added layer is truly bonding well, or not.
this video BADLY needs a TLDR
Great stuff Joe. I liked the process of 'elimination' and applying the best to the rest. Cheers, JAYTEE
Nicely and logically explained. 👍
thank you for this guide. i never thought about this trial and error process. this helped me a lot! now i am printing with PETG and im happy with the result :)
sometimes i wish that robot was here to tell me how to get all the settings perfect the first time. :) great video. much appreciated. thank you :)
Awesome video! Idea Maker has become my go to slicer just with all the settings that are changeable. I would love to see more videos on it.
Great walk through
Love this concept, where you gets in the deep end of the pool, and follow it up, till you are "safe"
Thanks for sharing :-)
keep up the good work your videos are always informative and a pleasure to watch
Good work, I always learn something from you.
No bald guy here, only best daddy TH-camr in Malta.
Was nice to see you Jo, great work on the bridging!
Absolutely love your work. This has been an issue with me for sometime. I also use Ideamaker. Love this program. Great work. Will continue the journey.
Professional tips and really insightful video, Many thanks
ok, You've convinced me to start using ideamaker. Great video, Joe! Be Well!
Why didn't you try density and flow rates of less than 100%? In cura when it does bridging it always has the first two bridging layers at like 75% and 85% flow rate and density. The third layer it finally Up's them up to above 100%. In CURA's setting guide it explains that these values are set below 100% at first because it allows the bridge to do a few things. First off by having the density less than 100% it gives gaps between each filament strand so air can flow around it and it can cool faster. The idea is that if it cools faster then it becomes rigid in the air as fast as possible so it does not sag. The reason the flow rate is less than 100% is again for cooling reasons. Less material flowing out makes the lines thinner and thus able to cool faster. Less flow also means that the filament weighs less, so its own weight doesn't bring it down and make it sag. Once it has the first two layers of the bridge set up, then it has a support structure in place. Then the third layer can have values of over 100% to fill in the gaps that are left behind.
Is there any reasoning why with idea maker that you do not do bridging with values below 100%?
Same question. What he did was the opposite of what I see recommended
I was like 😳 The same question
Hello Joe, nice video! bring it on 😁 if we don't have the bottom layer to squish the top layer we need to adjust the flow rate, same happens with infill
This is excellent information. Thanks Joe!
Excelent process of rulling out variables... Same stuff that I do when I want to dial in several related settings to one particular area of print quality. Wouldn't print temperature affect also big on bridging? Congrats and thks for all the helpfull info!
Rui Cardoso this is my question too
Awesome video Joe! Thank you 👌
I love this. Would really like to see more videos on tuning slicer settings. Nobody does this kind of stuff anymore. They just build printers visit factories and talk bad about companies that don't sponsor them. Keep up there great work Joe!
Thank you so much for the excellent info!
Thanks for this series, it will be really useful 🤟🏼
😮Awesome! Thanks for your efforts
Great work and effort for us, thanks a lot !!!
3:44 I don't have the same thing as you have. Just the same speed for all of them. I followed everything you did. Did you do something to your settings prior to the video?
Not related to bridging settings but I love your license plate on your wall!
Thank you Daddy Joe. I feel 100% Bridget Jones. Bridge... Jet.
I switched from Cura to IdeaMaker over a year ago. I'll never go back.
Each layer is individually adjustable by ALL available parameters.
Thanks Joe for the video, are you planning in doing some beginners guide to ideamaker? I really want start using IM and it would be really useful seeing how you start an new filament profile.
great video. out of curiosity, what did you use for the top solid fill line type? lines, or rectilinear? changing this option in my version of ideamaker changing the line type for bridging. thanks
This would be an excellent place use DOE. It is a technique for finding the best values for a process that has several parameters without having to try every combination.
Love the video I think Idear maker is getting very good if I ever get a rais E2 then Ill use it how did slicer (prusa) cope not as many setting for bridges ???
You know I have not been able to dial my bridging in with PETG, but I have often wondered if I had a fan of sub 0c air blowing on the filament behind the nozzle (directly onto the filament) would that help? Maybe use a peltier device to chill the air to below ambient and hit the filament?
great to see you back Joe, feels like its been a while! have an awesome time at Malta maker fair! are you coming to 3D meetup Sweden too?
yep, a lot of work, each filament and then once again for each batch can end up in more than a rabbit hole or a rabbit colony :)
Subcribed the moment I saw this video. Are you planning on adding more profiles to the Ideamaker library for the Ender 3? For me it was a great help because with the compare function I can easily find out what things I can tune to my own profiles.
Hello, how do you ensure the lines making the bridge do not start just at the edge but a bit farther? When I try to make bridges with IdeaMaker the lines begin just at the edge.
Nice improvements. Did you have a Cr10s Pro profile for Ideamaker?
Mnay thanks for this - do you think it is also worth checking the effects of layer height?
what did you find was the best fan speed?
Well done!
What was the result of changing the fan speed? You show some results after explaining the changes you did but you do not explicitly say that those results are for changing the fan speed. I would think that the first one pictured was the one at 25% and it looks to be the better result. Can you confirm?
Great video and SO helpful! I'm only a month in with 3D printing and learning a lot.
Have you tossed that bridge test up on Thingaverse or anywhere? I am not touching 3D modeling until I have a good handle on printing.
Thanks!
Michael
Flashforge Adventurer 4
I am now trying to bridge for the fist time with my ender 3 v2 cura 4.8.0 but before the printing i can see in the slicer that it makes 1 brigelayer run but after that it wants to make a normal layer with crosslines in between the walls of the second and third layer. I have marked the setting that the bridge is multiple layers but after slicing it remains just as before. If i say that the liine direction of the toplayers must be 90 degrees than it makes the 2 most top layers in the lengts direction of the bridge as i want but not the second and third layer. The thichness of the bridge is 1mm and sliced at 0.2 mm so 5 layers in total. And set the toplayers a 5 layers.
Can anybody tell me how i can make 5 layers in the direction of the bridge?
I think that printing the second and third layer in this way it will not going to be going well.
no idea but if you enable more parameter with overhang and so on it's seem to work at least it's working on the top layer for me, it's work better with layer param as it's faster if you dont want do sequential printing ( and setup of it)
not sure if it that but on the model it showing the mesh on the same direction now add "fixed bridging angle" to 90deg on the preview and when im priting . at the end i cannot get ideamaker to print good bridging for my anycubic predator ... had to move to cura it's really anyoing.... i think this tuts is not valid anymore and need to reworked.
I have good brindging i cura and i have totaly no clue why tbh.
can you do this on prusa by any chance?
I love your vids. I just recently found you and I wish I had found you sooner. Where do you stream and I can watch live?
thank you
How u make that ur LAyer where the Bridge Starts has the Same Lines as the Bridges? i have 45° on de Layer and the Bridge is like urs.....
i would like to know that as well!
hi there dude ! (its now april 2022) and (sorry i dont know your name ) ive found an watched your vids on ideamaker as like you ive just started using it .. i love the UI ..... and ive now subbed to your channel .
i was wondering will you be doing a tutorial on extrusion problems within ideamaker as im having a problem with the walls of a print not adhearing together ( you can easily slide a piece of paper between the shells ,walls (whatever you call them ) i hope you ,or anyone can help with this problem thank you .
Can you share your model so we can compare results?
Hey Joe. Thanks for the Video. Whats the reason that you are using ideamaker? ✌️
I switched to it last year after simplify3D mentioned paid updates and since I already used it cause of my raise printers I was comfortable with it
3DMN thank you. I‘m using PrusaSlicer and think about it, to switch from PS to Ideamaker.
Thanks for sharing with the rest of us bald headed guys mate lol
Oh my! I thought that I have to reduce flow rate on bridges!!!
Totally useless to me right now, but no doubt once I get a filament printer, I'll be coming back to find this again! 😂
Hi5!!! Si much timee😜 we have a3d printer party in madrid 😊
Do you have a makerfr i3 rs? (green printer on the very right of the shelf )
Dissocioo Zaribo 420
@@jensh.9597 there is a 420 zaribo mod ? 400 on the z ?
can you share your model? I'm struggling like an idiot with onshape to make a model that idea maker will actually accept without errors.
www.prusaprinters.org/prints/116915-bridge-test-piece
Use half a spool to create best possible profile and next time you buy exactly same filament, you may be surprised as manufacturer change a recipe by a notch and you have to start again... After few 100 of hours setting up everything and tuning your printer by printing a parts for a fully functional device you realise there is actually nothing you would like to print except another part to tune your printer even more 🤣 😂 priceless
Extrusion width has nothing to do with bridging, this setting interpolate nozzle height.
Thanks for the presentation, but I noticed you don’t really explain the purpose behind your actions or the reasoning for the sequences. For example, when discussing extrusion width, it seems there’s some misunderstanding. To achieve a specific extrusion width, like 110%, you need to apply the extrusion flow onto a surface, allowing the melted filament to spread under the nozzle to the desired width. Without a proper surface, you’re just pushing more material, which won’t increase the width and will create gaps between passes. The same goes for adjusting fan speeds-there needs to be more explanation about why you’re making these changes rather than just presenting variations in values.
Thanks for showing folks the process of dialing in their settings. Well done.
Looking skinny. Eat a sandwich. 😉 Stay healthy.
hehe
Sorry, but Ideamaker sucks! Doesn't work for me, unfortunately! Eventhough I did everything you showed in the Video, but the Bridges are all sliced with the same speed. Additionally, the bridges are being sliced in a 45° direction. :-(
I just fixed that issue, the setting is called "enabled fixed bridge angle" under the "other" tab.