@SebastianWellsTL rather the money get used by our allies on the battlefield than sitting in a storage facility for 20 years before getting decommissioned
I don't mind money for wars, but a lot of recent funding is equipment and not manpower, we really need the cost-cutting pushes Tesla/SpaceX are executing and apply them to defense contractors.
The whole point of bringing it here is so we have access to a massive suite of testing equipment. In situ testing is great, but it would be almost impossible to move all of the potential kinds of equipment to orbit
I agree, we need to send more lab equipment into a parking orbit around mars, and we should be testing these samples there, not here, we do not need to bring back a bunch of toxic dust from every rock in space, and at the very least the lab equipment should be in high earth orbit so that the toxic dust does not have to be brought down to earth
@@zotfotpiqthat is very true, although you can't deny that their speed of development is insane, Elons promises are always completely and utterly insane. There is much to criticise but what he does is just say the things to get his employees motivated to the public instead.
@Schinkeldink i can, though? i think china paid musk off to tank the artemis 3 lunar landing. that's why HLS is so far behind. we've all seen the pace of innovation on stuff he cares about (f9, starlink) but starship for some reason... dang. just can't get it working. concerning.
NASA's old way of project financing: "We want to do this and here is how. You guys build parts and ship them to us and charge us an arm and a leg. Please keep in mind we have only 2 arms and 2 legs. However we also posses several pints of blood and I feel sure we can work something out." NASA's new way of project financing: "This is what we want to accomplish. You guys show us what you can do. Here are a couple of fingers to start with and the winner gets the rest of the hand."
3.35 Billion for the Dragonfly when the whole starship program will cost between 5b to 10b including development of rockets and 2 super launch stations with towers and all. Is crazy how NASA wastes money. Imagine making a budget so bad that the real figure is not 50%, not 100% but 230% more than the original budget, only this shows the level of incompetency or corruption.
Combine sintering with (well, the concept of) sandbagging. Basically make hollow blocks via sintering, fill them with loose regolith, sinter the top to close it, and you've got a sinter block!! :)
Thanks for this and other videos! They are really good. I have a question though: Why do you pronounce the word “the” with the same sound as the word “thee”? Is it a dialect? Greetings
The dragon fly must be a complex drone cause it has to be designed to fly in different air densities and planet magnetic field would be different that earth as well .
You're right, even if we don't see all the technical details behind the scenes, the development and management of such "drones" likely involve complex engineering work. It's a reminder of how many factors need to be considered when creating nature-inspired technologies.
Many studies have been done since the 1970's using regolith subjected to microwave radiation to create roads, bricks, and concrete material. You should look them up.
1:15 I think SpaceX will put a bid for Starship, After landing the Bay doors open and a swam of drones are released get the samples, also may drop off a new rover to dig some more and then return.
complete construction during the "day" and utilize sun light, maybe focused through a "magnifying glass" or concentrate the sun light into a beam to reach required temp. The temperature on the moon's equator can reach 250°F (121°C) during the day.
It's an electromagnetic universe with a positive and a negative gravity that we need to tap into to produce the propulsion necessary to travel the distances we want to. They both work off of the push pull system and that's what we need to figure out how to. Just think if we could pinpoint any black hole in the universe and have it pull us to it and turn off in the last second we could be anywhere in the universe maybe at the or close to the speed of light
So all the dev work into collecting the samples out of the window by the time its done might as well re take the samples or test them in situ....cheers
Taking samples with no mission scheduled to pick them up is plain incompetence. It will be easier to just send a completely new mission to gather new samples and bring them back as pat of an integrated lander with return to orbit capability. Also just have the lab processes as part of the lander and do the experiments there and transmit back the results. Yes, there are some very sophisticated tests that may not get done, but probably get 80% or more with lots less $$ and engineering.
Provide a bonus for companies with Nasa contracts to finish their projects early and a penalty for those late in the later half of their contract to get us on the moon sooner.
What sending too rockets to Mars by toeing one of the rockets if you can get a rocket full with fuel to Mars by toeing then the rocket can land and collect the samples and return is it possible toeing a rocket full with fuel to Mars that your best option
All those people that trumpet that "robots can do it better and cheaper" forget that robots only "do it" when it is so cheap that Americans are willing to spend the money. (Americans would actually rather spend their discretionary cash on the Super Bowl, booze, drugs, entertainment and internet porn. If they spent a quarter of the money we spend on those trivialities on the Space Program, we would have had a colony on Mars by the 90s.) Obviously, Congress does not think that retrieving samples of rocks and soil from the closest other planetary body that might support life as we know it and would be the easiest to colonize is as important as impeaching the Homeland Security director or banning abortion.
Put a linnier network of silicon chips that send information from Mars to earth. Have them each carry mushroom motherboards to predict rout, potential harms, as well some of earth's oldest DNA ideas and materials.
A theoretical paper is one thing. Doing it /Testing it is another. What are the Chinese doing to test the practicality of their theoretical paper? Appreciate your comments.
Why not send Falcon heavy with A dragon capsule and P[timus to retreve them? the entire center rocket stage 1 & 2 can land on mars and then optimus can decend on a rope and retreve the samples then climb back up to Dragon and stage the center falcon can take off from Mars with samples and return to earth!!!
It is way to optimistic if we take in account the collapse of the Dollar and therefore the US. Because that is something which is unavoidable with a national debt that does grow with a extra trillion each hundred days, and an administration that doesn't do anything to turn the tide.... It can take a year or maybe five, but with the dissapearance of the petro-Dollar and 80% of the World that is working on the de-Dollarization of their economy, it is just a question of time... I do even predict you that they will stop the Artemis program.
The fastest way to collect the samples is to wait until the Mars Colonists (Yes, including the british Marscolonist) drive a few Mars rovers and manually pick them up. Navigation will be easy with the Mars communication and MPS ( the Mars version of GPS) Every bet that Musk will beat any contractor, especially Boeing. Of course the young Piasecki kids are already planning to fly Tandem Marsocopters from place to place, collect and allow Boeing to send the samples , unmanned back to the desert, the only reliable way they just proved they can do. Name? Marsliner. In Summary, Nelson and his crew can put up some lawn chairs and simply wait for the 4 parachute Marsliiner capsules deliver the Musk team identified samples, collected by the Piasecki team, loaded into the Boeing Marsliner and Bartemis return rocket , unmanned naturally and using the 4 paracutes ( the one thing they learned is to use 4 chutes) drop the carefully isolated samples in the middle of the lawn chairs. Presto a perfect team.
Only issue is to find a productive ways of gaining profit from mining this planets so spacestation can be bigger and able to sustain life and have gravity magnet 🧲 can be one example, reducing time of lunch have time to look who solve the issue of not able to invade mars even when we have better technology use rope from moon to earth to drilled into the moon so it can be held by earth 🌎🌍 this way only way to invade mars safely without alot of cost
I was never on board with the Mars sample return. It always seemed like a bad plan. NASA should just wait until humans go there in the late 2030s or early 2040s and bring back large sample instead of tiny ones.
Dang, a whole 7% of what we've given to a non-ally most American's can't point out on a map in just the last couple years? Yea, no. I don't see 58 standing ovations in congress for anyone at NASA
Exactly how many satellites, landers, or rovers has SpaceX sent to Mars? Musk just said he could get the samples back within five years, and I laughed out loud.
Im willing to bet, 200 years n the future those old test tubes from nasa will be a collectors dream item. Some lucky Martian will find a few and retire off the finders fee they get off em.
I'm sure all nations and all humanity will bow down to the techno-genius, Musk. /s This isn't the 15th century. No person, company, or nation can plant a flag and claim to own it.
🤔...Given high rise buildings and other major structures like bridges and overpasses regularly collapse in China...It would be nice if China could figure out how to make concrete in China, before worrying about do it on the Moon.
That's 3 - P * on NASA part.. * = ( Piss Poor Planning ) Why plan a robotic explorer that gathers Samples " If " they didn't Already have the retrieval of those Samples within the plan / budget...
Designing the rover *_and_* retrieval system simultaneously would have taken forever. So they opted to go down the flexible (and cheaper) route. They're still getting the science done and the sample tubes aren't going anywhere. If NASA/ESA or private companies can devise a less expensive retrieval system, excellent! If it's simply not feasible, that will suck *BIG TIME* for the scientists & engineers who have spent years and their careers working on the mission. But they were always aware of the vicissitudes of NASA funding.
🔺whyte folks need to be careful with these space missions…The universe is a cosmic jungle full of predators that are far more ancient and intelligent then them‼️
USA spends too much protecting other country borders vs developments in USA. Travel to China and see how modern that country is vs the USA. Maglev trains and other amenities makes me feel USA falling behind
Money for wars , yet budget cuts for NASA.
Last year the USA spent 915 billion on Military expenses
NASA's less than 0.1% GDP to do some of the world's most earth changing research.. but people that breathe with their mouths think it's too much..
@@vonsauerkraut
And a lot of that budget isn't even for homeland defense; it's going to other nations.
@SebastianWellsTL rather the money get used by our allies on the battlefield than sitting in a storage facility for 20 years before getting decommissioned
I don't mind money for wars, but a lot of recent funding is equipment and not manpower, we really need the cost-cutting pushes Tesla/SpaceX are executing and apply them to defense contractors.
can you imagine in the near future we could be looking up with are telescopes and see a base on the moon how cool would that be
Send ME to Mars and I'll give back those bloody samples!🧐
Send a Lab tester to Mars and test the samples there.
Wouldn't that be more expensive?
The whole point of bringing it here is so we have access to a massive suite of testing equipment. In situ testing is great, but it would be almost impossible to move all of the potential kinds of equipment to orbit
That's college thinking there.
Send musk
I agree, we need to send more lab equipment into a parking orbit around mars, and we should be testing these samples there, not here, we do not need to bring back a bunch of toxic dust from every rock in space, and at the very least the lab equipment should be in high earth orbit so that the toxic dust does not have to be brought down to earth
Looks like musk will be bringing Mars rock's back to Earth before NASA will.
Musk won't be doing anything he's a fraud remember get man on mars by 2024 give more credit to his hard working engineers
based on what i saw him say on video... he *should* already be there!
@@zotfotpiqthat is very true, although you can't deny that their speed of development is insane, Elons promises are always completely and utterly insane. There is much to criticise but what he does is just say the things to get his employees motivated to the public instead.
@Schinkeldink i can, though? i think china paid musk off to tank the artemis 3 lunar landing. that's why HLS is so far behind.
we've all seen the pace of innovation on stuff he cares about (f9, starlink) but starship for some reason... dang. just can't get it working. concerning.
Don’t trust him…
NASA's old way of project financing: "We want to do this and here is how. You guys build parts and ship them to us and charge us an arm and a leg. Please keep in mind we have only 2 arms and 2 legs. However we also posses several pints of blood and I feel sure we can work something out." NASA's new way of project financing: "This is what we want to accomplish. You guys show us what you can do. Here are a couple of fingers to start with and the winner gets the rest of the hand."
The US military gets $2 Billion per day and you are complaining about NASA?
You have the best narration of any YT channel.
Aerospace industry needs to shift to fixed-cost bids.
Fly to the moon and stay in luxurious sandbag hotels 😂
If you want a 5 star experience, fly to Vegas. The moon is an adventure that requires people to suck it up.
06:23 - Any construction most be underground, whatever been in the Moon or Mars! Needs to be underground! - Mark Watney, Astronaut - AKA Matt Damon
Is it just me or do the sample containers kind of look like light saber hilts?
3.35 Billion for the Dragonfly when the whole starship program will cost between 5b to 10b including development of rockets and 2 super launch stations with towers and all. Is crazy how NASA wastes money. Imagine making a budget so bad that the real figure is not 50%, not 100% but 230% more than the original budget, only this shows the level of incompetency or corruption.
Combine sintering with (well, the concept of) sandbagging. Basically make hollow blocks via sintering, fill them with loose regolith, sinter the top to close it, and you've got a sinter block!! :)
greate video, what do you use in making animations of the screenshots like 4:03, anyone??
would be easy to do it with Blender the 3d softare
Thanks for this and other videos! They are really good. I have a question though: Why do you pronounce the word “the” with the same sound as the word “thee”? Is it a dialect? Greetings
The dragon fly must be a complex drone cause it has to be designed to fly in different air densities and planet magnetic field would be different that earth as well .
You're right, even if we don't see all the technical details behind the scenes, the development and management of such "drones" likely involve complex engineering work. It's a reminder of how many factors need to be considered when creating nature-inspired technologies.
Imagine where we would be if space agencies would have only half of what military gets.
Remember Dod budget for climatisation during between 2003 to 2017 was around 20 Billion a year
Many studies have been done since the 1970's using regolith subjected to microwave radiation to create roads, bricks, and concrete material. You should look them up.
Get SpaceX to deliver 10 Atlas 2 bots and a railgun.
Im sure that could be done for under 5 billion.
If we can not do a sample return mission, we can not do a manned mission. We need this rehearsal first.
Isn't this for science for humankind? What about all space agencies participating in this project?
Nationalism stops that
Tell the US government that Russia/China will get the samples first and watch the budgets expand ;)
Just tell them there’s oil below the surface🤭
NASA literally did this again a week ago, lol. "China is going to steal moon territory!!!"
@3:27 How the one guy get´s scared ;)
1:15 I think SpaceX will put a bid for Starship, After landing the Bay doors open and a swam of drones are released get the samples, also may drop off a new rover to dig some more and then return.
that's the level of realism I've come to expect from spacex fans! they'll probably find the magic alien terraforming machines too!
Due to the national debt NASA needs to get out of all space exploration.
Wouldn't the sandbag method by quite unstable in a low-gravity environment? Since gravity is the main thing keeping such a structure together?
complete construction during the "day" and utilize sun light, maybe focused through a "magnifying glass" or concentrate the sun light into a beam to reach required temp. The temperature on the moon's equator can reach 250°F (121°C) during the day.
I wonder if we will see a Moon / Mars rideshare option for different rovers or just satellites
Interesting. Thanks.
incredible
It's an electromagnetic universe with a positive and a negative gravity that we need to tap into to produce the propulsion necessary to travel the distances we want to. They both work off of the push pull system and that's what we need to figure out how to. Just think if we could pinpoint any black hole in the universe and have it pull us to it and turn off in the last second we could be anywhere in the universe maybe at the or close to the speed of light
3:26 why did that guy react like that?
So all the dev work into collecting the samples out of the window by the time its done might as well re take the samples or test them in situ....cheers
1 minute ago is crazy
11 seconds, take it or leave it
Imagine if humans come back from mars and the samples still haven't came
The humans and whatever they have come in contact with....would BE the samples....!
Why did you stop uploading podcasts to iheartradio?
"If it manages to keep to the 2028 launch date..." ...it will be a miracle.
The next time they have to send a pigeon, it will surely return home with its beak dirty with Martian dirt
Taking samples with no mission scheduled to pick them up is plain incompetence. It will be easier to just send a completely new mission to gather new samples and bring them back as pat of an integrated lander with return to orbit capability.
Also just have the lab processes as part of the lander and do the experiments there and transmit back the results. Yes, there are some very sophisticated tests that may not get done, but probably get 80% or more with lots less $$ and engineering.
❓ Caves and The Boring Machine to dig deep, then fewer materials to seal the hole?
How about use Mars materials and 3D print a big Lego piece.
Provide a bonus for companies with Nasa contracts to finish their projects early and a penalty for those late in the later half of their contract to get us on the moon sooner.
Why don't they send a starship to mars to pickup the sample, oh wait they could just collect their own samples 🤣
What sending too rockets to Mars by toeing one of the rockets if you can get a rocket full with fuel to Mars by toeing then the rocket can land and collect the samples and return is it possible toeing a rocket full with fuel to Mars that your best option
All those people that trumpet that "robots can do it better and cheaper" forget that robots only "do it" when it is so cheap that Americans are willing to spend the money. (Americans would actually rather spend their discretionary cash on the Super Bowl, booze, drugs, entertainment and internet porn. If they spent a quarter of the money we spend on those trivialities on the Space Program, we would have had a colony on Mars by the 90s.)
Obviously, Congress does not think that retrieving samples of rocks and soil from the closest other planetary body that might support life as we know it and would be the easiest to colonize is as important as impeaching the Homeland Security director or banning abortion.
Surprised you didn’t include Voyager coming back to life
And *what* is that supposed to mean?
wasnt that months ago
@@TrinitysTalons I saw yesterday news that voyager is now sending back coherent messages and not gibberish.
@@paulkaiser8834 yeah that was announced weeks ago
@@TrinitysTalons wow, am I outta touch.
Put a linnier network of silicon chips that send information from Mars to earth. Have them each carry mushroom motherboards to predict rout, potential harms, as well some of earth's oldest DNA ideas and materials.
Create Three working ideas and apply two of them cooperatively.
Use the best idea last and finish the puzzle.
Nooooo! I want to work on NASA’s robotic missions to other planets, but with budget cuts idk what my future might hold then…
A theoretical paper is one thing. Doing it /Testing it is another. What are the Chinese doing to test the practicality of their theoretical paper? Appreciate your comments.
How tall of a skyscraper can someone build on the moon?
Check with SpaceX!
Musk is a fraud
Ask the Chinese to help, they have an excellent sample return program. ✌
0.3 cents to the Dollar is hardly excessive.
Why not send Falcon heavy with A dragon capsule and P[timus to retreve them? the entire center rocket stage 1 & 2 can land on mars and then optimus can decend on a rope and retreve the samples then climb back up to Dragon and stage the center falcon can take off from Mars with samples and return to earth!!!
I think NASA build a space station to refuel rockets in space the main problem is an energy matter NASA has a space refueling issue
2040?. That's a very very long time..
It is way to optimistic if we take in account the collapse of the Dollar and therefore the US. Because that is something which is unavoidable with a national debt that does grow with a extra trillion each hundred days, and an administration that doesn't do anything to turn the tide.... It can take a year or maybe five, but with the dissapearance of the petro-Dollar and 80% of the World that is working on the de-Dollarization of their economy, it is just a question of time...
I do even predict you that they will stop the Artemis program.
The fastest way to collect the samples is to wait until the Mars Colonists (Yes, including the british Marscolonist) drive a few Mars rovers and manually pick them up. Navigation will be easy with the Mars communication and MPS ( the Mars version of GPS)
Every bet that Musk will beat any contractor, especially Boeing.
Of course the young Piasecki kids are already planning to fly Tandem Marsocopters from place to place, collect and allow Boeing to send the samples , unmanned back to the desert, the only reliable way they just proved they can do. Name? Marsliner.
In Summary, Nelson and his crew can put up some lawn chairs and simply wait for the 4 parachute Marsliiner capsules deliver the Musk team identified samples, collected by the Piasecki team, loaded into the Boeing Marsliner and Bartemis return rocket , unmanned naturally and using the 4 paracutes ( the one thing they learned is to use 4 chutes) drop the carefully isolated samples in the middle of the lawn chairs. Presto a perfect team.
cool
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Moon Dust Disease 😂
Collaborat with ISRO
Only it can do this in low budget
Only issue is to find a productive ways of gaining profit from mining this planets so spacestation can be bigger and able to sustain life and have gravity magnet 🧲 can be one example, reducing time of lunch have time to look who solve the issue of not able to invade mars even when we have better technology use rope from moon to earth to drilled into the moon so it can be held by earth 🌎🌍 this way only way to invade mars safely without alot of cost
I was never on board with the Mars sample return. It always seemed like a bad plan. NASA should just wait until humans go there in the late 2030s or early 2040s and bring back large sample instead of tiny ones.
They need the samples to figure out the perfect place to land, and to 3-D print with the Mars regolith etc.
Humans are never going to mars
How does Blue Origin have the capability to go to Mars? They have never put an orbital class rocket into space!
It’s funny to see picture far away from the robot 😂😂😂😂😂 who is running the camera 😂
Under an hour gang👇
Dang, a whole 7% of what we've given to a non-ally most American's can't point out on a map in just the last couple years? Yea, no. I don't see 58 standing ovations in congress for anyone at NASA
This would NOT have happened had NASA relinquished this to SPACE X. It would have been done on time, on target and under budget!!
Like how musk said he would put man on mars by 2024 failure of a company
Exactly how many satellites, landers, or rovers has SpaceX sent to Mars?
Musk just said he could get the samples back within five years, and I laughed out loud.
@@nicholashylton6857 can't talk about space with musk fanboys they are like a cult
Musk can't even keep his promises
You can just grow concrete.
Inflation past 3 years compounded yearly has doubled the costs of everything
All the problems facing NASA can be resolved by Hollywood.
No comment giorgia
Im willing to bet, 200 years n the future those old test tubes from nasa will be a collectors dream item. Some lucky Martian will find a few and retire off the finders fee they get off em.
Okay these people are rocket scientists they don't form a program without the budget being complete. As usual they spent it and they need more.
It is going to look for life that came something that came from nothing.
I hope Elon Lands on Mars and claims the world as his own.
Elon is a fraud dude said he'd put man on mars by 2024 conman
I'm sure all nations and all humanity will bow down to the techno-genius, Musk. /s
This isn't the 15th century. No person, company, or nation can plant a flag and claim to own it.
He will be broke before then
Just let spacex do everything. 3.5 billion dollars for a rover is absurd
how about they budget cut the military for once
2028 mark that in the calendar
Elon musk will put that wheel back on when he gets up there.
He's never going up there
🤔...Given high rise buildings and other major structures like bridges and overpasses regularly collapse in China...It would be nice if China could figure out how to make concrete in China, before worrying about do it on the Moon.
Again make the mission in a studio like moon mission and reduce the cost.
Everytime i cant comment basic facts i leave TH-cam and go back to X
You have no facts just another cult member
@@travishylton6976 okay radical left cultist
@@travishylton6976 says the cultist
balloon
tbh
US priorities are way off since WW2
Send people instead of
Amazing what nasa has accomplished using less than 1% USA budget
That's 3 - P * on NASA part..
* = ( Piss Poor Planning )
Why plan a robotic explorer that gathers Samples " If " they didn't Already have the retrieval of those Samples within the plan / budget...
Designing the rover *_and_* retrieval system simultaneously would have taken forever. So they opted to go down the flexible (and cheaper) route.
They're still getting the science done and the sample tubes aren't going anywhere.
If NASA/ESA or private companies can devise a less expensive retrieval system, excellent! If it's simply not feasible, that will suck *BIG TIME* for the scientists & engineers who have spent years and their careers working on the mission. But they were always aware of the vicissitudes of NASA funding.
🔺whyte folks need to be careful with these space missions…The universe is a cosmic jungle full of predators that are far more ancient and intelligent then them‼️
Imagine NASA with just half of the money being sent, wasted & laundered in Ukraine 🤔.🤬
NASA has went woke, now its time to go broke! Long live SpaceX!
Lol musk is a fraud man on mars by 2024 more failed promises just a another conman like trump
Maybe they should cut their D.E.I. budget??
Naw just the military
Henge Demilitarize!
USA spends too much protecting other country borders vs developments in USA. Travel to China and see how modern that country is vs the USA. Maglev trains and other amenities makes me feel USA falling behind
first
Grade ?
1 day on Mars is 16 Earth days? Damn! I could get a lot of work done in a Mars Day.
One day on Mars is about 24.5 hours
Typical, NASA. Yep! Give the job to, SpeceX. They'll get it done.
Take musk dick out of your mouth space x said they'd put man on mars by 2024 Elon the conman and his groupies
2040s? man this is stupid im done following the news of this mission
Blue Origin maybe? Likely? lolz They are too far behind SpaceX
Let Ukraine help NASA out in terms of budgets