As an alumni of a selective entry school, I definitely enjoyed my time there. No doubt it's a very competitive environment, but I feel the competitiveness comes less from the school or teachers, but the students themselves. After all, all these students are all selected solely on their academic abilities (with some exceptions), it's natural that you will end up with a group of academically inclined students/teenagers who thrive on competition. Not everyone benefit from this type of education, however, so parents would need to understand how their child learn best.
Don't think too much about the ranking of the primary schools ! Closer is better ! All primary schools in good suburb are good. I think the primary school is more like a community you meet other parents living in the neighbourhood. And kids can have friends nearby.
As for been accepted into Medicine from ANY secondary school you still need to pass the UCAT tests and most Universities requires an interview process as part of their admission to medical School, so been in a Selective School doesn’t given you any special treatment or advantage in that sense.
好。近 Camberwell 就冇Christian School, 傳統的基督教私校就有。如 Carey Baptist in Kew/ Camberwell Grammar. 如果住東區，Christian School 有 St Andrews Christian College 係 Wantirna South，Waverley Christian College 係 Wantirna South/ Narre Warren south, Donvale Christian College 係 Donvale. 呢3間都係由 Prep-year 12. The Good Shepherd Lutheran Primary School 加 Luther college 係 Croydon. 你最好以家就申請，因為呢幾間的watiing list 都幾長。 我地都係讀 Christian School, 你想知多D，可以FB Messgae 我 facebook.com/beefamily.mel
Don’t agree with your assessment of the Selective schools. They are far from high pressure and high homework loads. The are among the top schools academically because mainly “Academically Gifted” students can go into them, in fact, they are basically the top 5% of students in Victoria. They are only high pressure for those students that could only get in by intensive tutoring. Those Selective Schools do have accelerated learning where “Borderline” students will find quite demanding. The main purpose of the Selective Schools are to train Gifted students with character building and leadership skills. Many of their alumni are The Who’s who of Australia. Selective Schools are definitely not the type of schools you want to push your kids to go to, they must have the ability and are capable of fitting into their culture first. There are many students that gets into a Selective School and leaves within the first year.
First of all, Thanks for watching the clip and leaving valuable comment. I believe those selective schools were established as what you said for those gifted students with talents. They can manage the workload and maintain their study-life balance. However, from the observation in the last 10 years, sadly that many students were honestly suffered a lot as what you said, they might leave the school within a year. As they got pushed in by their parents with intensive and non-stop tutoring. But also there are a lot of those who didn't leave but actually not as gifted as the others. They keep the full day tutoring during the weekend to catch it up. I so agree with you that, parents shouldn't push their kid to these school if they are not good enough. But you can see there are so many scholarship tutoring programs in the market nowadays to advocate this idea. Very sad but it is really happening. To reply with the medical schools offer, I was shocked when I heard that too. That was the 1st hand information from a student I know from Melbourne high 5 years ago. I wasn't as smart as you are so I didn't ask how to get in and so on in details, Eventually, that person didn't get in as he couldn't meet that score. But one of his friend did get into Monash with that conditional offer as what he said. So believe it or not, it is all up to you. My friend who was teaching in Mac Rob, She quitted her job because of the workloads that she couldn't cope with. May be she is not good enough in coping stress. But I guess to be able to be a teacher at Mac Rob won't be easy and not everyone can get that job too. From what she said, she received more and more non-assigned writings from her students that she didn't have enough time to correct it or even to check it. For a long period of time like this, she decided to quit. As a friend, I think it is very pity too. From all the experiences from them and knowing a few students in these schools who are still doing non-stop tutoring. I do really think these schools are quite stressful in a way. Maybe they are just not the right person to be in these schools. But if like what you said, the student should be talented enough to be there, then truely it won't be an issue. But you are so right, the selective school is definitely not the school you want to push your kids in. I surely agree.
@@beefamily-09 Thanks for your reply, my son goes to one of those Selective Schools and he didn’t received any tutoring to go into them nor does he do any outside tutoring while he is at the school. We petty much leave it to his own device, it is true that he has to manage his own way though school and even though the teachers are great (Many of the teachers are highly qualified with some teaching part time at Uni) it is up to the students to keep up. My son is one of the few that is lucky enough to be able do a Higher Education Subject next year in VCE that counts into Uni credits in Year One Uni. He had seen some students that left the school after the first term in the past and some that were asked to leave after the first year because they were not up to standards. Overall, Selective Schools are more for character building than just good academics. My son was involved in things like Air Force Cadets Which gives them great Leadership, physical and mental training. By the way, your videos are very informative and very well made, looking forward to your next installment.
@@rayngmelb Very good sharing and thanks for telling me your story. I am very happy that this platform can share more and know more in different perspectives. 😀😀
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As an alumni of a selective entry school, I definitely enjoyed my time there. No doubt it's a very competitive environment, but I feel the competitiveness comes less from the school or teachers, but the students themselves. After all, all these students are all selected solely on their academic abilities (with some exceptions), it's natural that you will end up with a group of academically inclined students/teenagers who thrive on competition. Not everyone benefit from this type of education, however, so parents would need to understand how their child learn best.
謝謝你既分享，我黎緊會去Melbourne ，請問如果讀milgate IB PYP, 但中學讀返普通government school, 銜接方面會唔會有問題？或者有咩要注意呢？謝謝你🙏
Don't think too much about the ranking of the primary schools ! Closer is better ! All primary schools in good suburb are good. I think the primary school is more like a community you meet other parents living in the neighbourhood. And kids can have friends nearby.
多謝分亨，對於新手的我，資料很有用。
As for been accepted into Medicine from ANY secondary school you still need to pass the UCAT tests and most Universities requires an interview process as part of their admission to medical School, so been in a Selective School doesn’t given you any special treatment or advantage in that sense.
你好呀！我明年會帶2位小朋友移民到Melbourne，到時會住Ringwood。但發現這個區小學質素一般，因為手上資金不多，只能入讀政府學校。請問知否如果想報附近區ranking 較高的小學(eg Vermont Primary)，是否很難成功？小朋友是否需要面試/考試？
感謝回答😊
公校只要是catchment/ school zone 內就一定會收。如果你想讀Vermont primary, 不一定會收，因為你不住在校區內。
好片
十分詳細的片，謝謝你的心機。想請教，對於公立學校，是否住在當區，就一定入到心水學校？ 有否出現學校超額而收不到的情況？ 或被分派同區其他公校？
只要住在校區內就會收。唔會出現超額而唔收的情況。呢度係自己逐間學校去報而唔係統一派位，所以唔會有派去其他區或其他公校的情況。😊😊
多謝分享，很有用的資料，很用心的制作。
我想請問假設讀完milgate 之後，到上中學係咪一定要搵返IB嘅中學，先至函接到上去？而唔可以去返普通中學呢？
升中學唔駛一定要入返IB school. 係可以去其他一般中學既
多謝你分享呀！有個問題我見有間心儀嘅學校只係讀到YEAR9 ，之後要轉校係咪好COMMON架？ 另外如果係CATCHMENT內住就算REGULAR PUBLIC SCHOOL (YR6-12）係咪都一定會收YEAR10嘅插班生？我怕轉校有啲麻煩
唔common. 如果係school zone 入面住，regular public school 一定會收。
如入學時住school zone. 但讀書中途(即已入學後)，可否搬到school zone 以外(也很近school 的屋)？跟學校改school zone 以外地方會否被開除學藉呢？thank you very much! 因我在想有可能住一段日子後，找到區外較心移的居所…先謝謝回覆！
有些公校可以，有些唔得。好睇你報邊間。
@@beefamily-09 beverley hills 可以嗎？
請問Bayswater 的地區好住嗎?果區有冇好的中學及小學🙏🙏
你好，小朋友今年係香港讀小二，應該明年中會去墨爾本，想幫佢快啲融入個度，請問一下小學而家最popular 既運動或者遊戲係乜野？
最popular 既運動一定係AFL.
遊戲： BeyBlade; Pokamon Card, Pk xd, Roblox ...etc
@@beefamily-09 感謝！
多謝分享有用的資料！ 請問可否介紹幾間Melbourne 的基督教學校(最好小學連中學)? 因本人也是想女兒有多些聖經教導但不懂在網址上與昂貴私校分別出來。另外 學校是否半年前或大半年前左右申請也可?(知道要出年我們攞到visa Grant 後才能申請) 女兒到步時會讀G6. Thank you!
在Melbourne 的基督教學校？有冇想係邊區？有介紹的，不過要睇下你打算住邊區。
@@beefamily-09 唔知Camberwell 附近有冇? 甚至近市中心那邊? 會住東面 但實質未決定那區 揀到學校就在附近租樓
好。近 Camberwell 就冇Christian School, 傳統的基督教私校就有。如 Carey Baptist in Kew/ Camberwell Grammar. 如果住東區，Christian School 有 St Andrews Christian College 係 Wantirna South，Waverley Christian College 係 Wantirna South/ Narre Warren south, Donvale Christian College 係 Donvale. 呢3間都係由 Prep-year 12. The Good Shepherd Lutheran Primary School 加 Luther college 係 Croydon.
你最好以家就申請，因為呢幾間的watiing list 都幾長。
我地都係讀 Christian School, 你想知多D，可以FB Messgae 我 facebook.com/beefamily.mel
@@beefamily-09 謝謝你很快的回覆啊 我們先看一篇你以上的介紹 我還以為必須批左visa 先俾申請添
@@cynlee1459 因為Christian school 非公校，所以可以提早申請。
你好，好多謝你嘅分享。我哋嚟緊會去墨爾本，想入天主教學校，中學和小學，可否電郵給你請教？
可以。beefamily.mel@gmail.com
@@beefamily-09 thanks so much
我想問喺Camberwell 有邊間男女校Primary school係好🙇🏼♀️
Camberwell Primary School 同 Camberwell South Primary School 成績都好好，係公立小學。至於私立男女小學，可能要去到 Carey Baptist 啦。
levy 這個字你發錯音了，你發左 Navy 這個字，你去Google Translate 就知正確是怎樣發着的
謝謝你告知😊
同埋我想問Camberwell 有邊間幼稚園係好㗎🙏🏻🙇🏼♀️
你想搵私校的 ELC 定公立的幼稚園？
我會盡快開一集講澳洲的小學同幼稚園制度，因為同香港好唔同。
我想搵私校幼稚園同埋小學
我一個仔就嚟四歲一個仔五歲
Thank you so much for your help🙏🏻🙇🏼♀️
ELC 同幼稚園不一樣嗎？
Don’t agree with your assessment of the Selective schools. They are far from high pressure and high homework loads. The are among the top schools academically because mainly “Academically Gifted” students can go into them, in fact, they are basically the top 5% of students in Victoria. They are only high pressure for those students that could only get in by intensive tutoring. Those Selective Schools do have accelerated learning where “Borderline” students will find quite demanding. The main purpose of the Selective Schools are to train Gifted students with character building and leadership skills. Many of their alumni are The Who’s who of Australia. Selective Schools are definitely not the type of schools you want to push your kids to go to, they must have the ability and are capable of fitting into their culture first. There are many students that gets into a Selective School and leaves within the first year.
First of all, Thanks for watching the clip and leaving valuable comment. I believe those selective schools were established as what you said for those gifted students with talents. They can manage the workload and maintain their study-life balance. However, from the observation in the last 10 years, sadly that many students were honestly suffered a lot as what you said, they might leave the school within a year. As they got pushed in by their parents with intensive and non-stop tutoring.
But also there are a lot of those who didn't leave but actually not as gifted as the others. They keep the full day tutoring during the weekend to catch it up.
I so agree with you that, parents shouldn't push their kid to these school if they are not good enough. But you can see there are so many scholarship tutoring programs in the market nowadays to advocate this idea. Very sad but it is really happening.
To reply with the medical schools offer, I was shocked when I heard that too. That was the 1st hand information from a student I know from Melbourne high 5 years ago. I wasn't as smart as you are so I didn't ask how to get in and so on in details, Eventually, that person didn't get in as he couldn't meet that score. But one of his friend did get into Monash with that conditional offer as what he said. So believe it or not, it is all up to you.
My friend who was teaching in Mac Rob, She quitted her job because of the workloads that she couldn't cope with. May be she is not good enough in coping stress. But I guess to be able to be a teacher at Mac Rob won't be easy and not everyone can get that job too. From what she said, she received more and more non-assigned writings from her students that she didn't have enough time to correct it or even to check it. For a long period of time like this, she decided to quit. As a friend, I think it is very pity too.
From all the experiences from them and knowing a few students in these schools who are still doing non-stop tutoring. I do really think these schools are quite stressful in a way. Maybe they are just not the right person to be in these schools.
But if like what you said, the student should be talented enough to be there, then truely it won't be an issue.
But you are so right, the selective school is definitely not the school you want to push your kids in. I surely agree.
@@beefamily-09 Thanks for your reply, my son goes to one of those Selective Schools and he didn’t received any tutoring to go into them nor does he do any outside tutoring while he is at the school. We petty much leave it to his own device, it is true that he has to manage his own way though school and even though the teachers are great (Many of the teachers are highly qualified with some teaching part time at Uni) it is up to the students to keep up. My son is one of the few that is lucky enough to be able do a Higher Education Subject next year in VCE that counts into Uni credits in Year One Uni. He had seen some students that left the school after the first term in the past and some that were asked to leave after the first year because they were not up to standards. Overall, Selective Schools are more for character building than just good academics. My son was involved in things like Air Force Cadets Which gives them great Leadership, physical and mental training. By the way, your videos are very informative and very well made, looking forward to your next installment.
@@rayngmelb Very good sharing and thanks for telling me your story. I am very happy that this platform can share more and know more in different perspectives. 😀😀
@@beefamily-09 I've also shared your videos with an Australian Hong Kong Parents' group, I hope you get more viewers.
🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️ thank you very much!