It is simple indeed. It's just basic strokes, triplets, etc... he's not doing crazy polyrhythms or odd times. Playing it fast is not simple, but what he is explaining is really simple.
wow. ive been teaching drums for 12 years. ive always known OF thomas lang but I havent followed him closely. he went over some parts that are VERBATIM exactly as I would say to a student. Palms down, no karate chop, wrist has increased control compared to other strokes, triplets are the door to single stroke mastery. feeling insanely validated in my own methods of teaching. Imposter symdrome is real and this helps a lot.
Thomas is a highly educated (Vienna) multi-instrumentalist. From a very young age, he practiced for hours daily. He has the knowledge to dissect and teach everything he does. I agree, there are too many bad instructors out there that waste a students money and time.
@Michael Thornton Arnold was Mr. Universe three times and the youngest Mr. Universe to this date before he even became a Hollwood superstar and later governor of California. So there´s your "show car" analogy. twat
This guy's drumming intelligence is second to none, he's a true craftsman and should be listened to very closely while playing and speaking of his knowledge on drumming. Absolutely top of his and the game! His advice on playing singles around the kit with palms down is something we don't hear often enough, it's absolutely correct that we have more control naturally playing palms down and that makes it easier to move larger distances around the kit with more control, which makes us more relaxed right away.Great excerpt thanks for post. 👊
@@FelipeLeiter It's sad to see is goal seems to be as robotic as possible, no feel, no groove, no musicality, these are the most important parts about being a drummer, he lacks in a band situation, he lacks in a musical situation compared to top drummers, also his solos are always the same old thing, he's the master at recycling, same on his DVDs, just showing off his technique and people don't learn anything from him
He actually doesn't play palms down when you look more carefully, but uses the american grip which is in between german and french, as way easier and more energy efficient
In my opinion,, you need the entire spectrum of grips, at least for certain applications. I rarely go full German, but I do vary a lot in the space between American and French, depending on the situation. French unlocked a new understanding for me in some ways, really into practicing that right now.
His approach is so easy and logical . It's a shame drumeo nuked the original video. He in that one hour video made 90% of the world's drum teachers and methods obsolete. Some points from the original *Any thing you can do with you hands you can do with you feet *Drum rudiments aren't just simple pad exercises and should be applied to the drum kit . * Lead with right hand when going from left to right on kit and left hand when going from right to left on the kit . So try 2 singles per drum, count 1+2+3+4+ from left to right. RLRLRLRL on say hi hat ,snare ,tom ,tom ,then back the other way from right to left 1+2+3+4+ LRLRLRLR tom tom snare hi hat . Now do, doubles , triplets etc being the drum rudiments patterns. A parra diddle is a 2 singles followed by a double repeating, RLRR LRLL 1234 1234 OR 1+2+3+4 ETC *Now try it on different drums in different orders.accents. *Start slow. *Experiment *Maintain good posture . I'm a survivor of the original video. If you weren't there you don't know man. There's bits where you can see Jareds mind blow out his arse in hd with gulps and all.
Praaaaaactice. Loooots of it. Almost anyone could theoretically do it, but only a select few love this sht so much that they are willing to put *all* the hours and effort into it.
The key is in the fact that it's triplet. The hands always open themselves up to the opposite side of the kit every time you play three notes. This makes going around very easy and, once you reach a certain speed, it's much harder to tell how fast he's actually playing, leading a lot of people to think he's playing 16th or 30 seconds
It's simple in its basic concept, not the execution. A rocket is also a simple concept, stuff gets blown out of a nozzle, rocket goes opposite direction. Doesn't mean you can just build a Saturn 5 and send it to the moon.
There's a good usecase for every grip. I find some things easier and more expressive with french grip, but I mostly play american. Being able to seamlessly switch between grips while playing is a major asset, that's why I'm working very hard to learn this.
It's funny how he shows the german grip and tells you that you should play with your palms facing down yet when he actually plays he never uses that technique. He clearly uses American grip. German grip is for marching drummers who had their drums close to the body when they were in battle, it was the only way to play that drum. German grip should be buried along with the traditional grip. Also he says not to play french yet he can play french grip perfectly. It's funny how one of the best drummers in the world doesn't know what he's doing. He's doing it PERFECTLY but he doesn't know how he's doing it. He's just repeating what his drum teachers have said but it's not what's he's actually doing. Because he practiced so much his body naturally steered away from what his teachers said and did what was the most natural and effortless thing in stead.
To be honest he doesn't say "don't play in French grip". He sad that he uses basically wrists, not fingers (and it's true), but of course he can play with his fingers. And yes, I agree that he uses american grip, not german.
@@Miller-hb9qv That's sort of how it comes out, "don't karate chop the drums". French grip is an important skill even if you never use it. It will help the american grip a lot.
You make a good point. It's good to learn different techniques and use what is natural and allows you to get the job done easiest. My drum teacher decades ago tried to force the palms down technique on me and it took time to deprogram from that idea. Many of these guys are technicians and definitely German in their approach (as in, it MUST be done THIS WAY). While I respect the ability, sometimes I feel like we are watching a sporting event rather than talking about making music.
@@SGray44444 I just think this shows how practicing enough will eventually make your body choose the path of least resistance naturally no matter what you think you are doing. Some music genres are definitely like sporting events, like the extremely fast metal stuff.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 What's not to agree about? He clearly plays american. Learning french grip will help "de-germanise" your technique and open up the possibility to use your fingers in the american grip. Bill Bachmann explains it very well in this video: th-cam.com/video/C56MMPMZ_cE/w-d-xo.html
Ugh, this is so pointless (in my opinion). Just play. If you play long enough, and you have a diverse selection of music, you'll eventually figure out that there is a flow, or a dance, etc.. to the music. Don't worry about playing Lrr, rll, Lrr, floor, Rll, Lrr.. blah blah blah. It's good to sit there and put the accent on the 5th hit of a RLL though, because that forces you to put the accent on the upstroke and on the down stroke ... which is something useful to have. What Thomas is doing is not considered teaching to me, it is showing off. . "oh, look how fast I can do this. all you have to do is put the accent on the crash, or next time put it on the left tom. blah blah blah. If you're so concerned with the timing of everything,. you're going to miss out that there is a flow to playing the drums. . the flow will put you int he correct position to hit doubles, accents, etc. The music will call for that stuff... you just need to have the flow of the music down at some point
To me, the flow comes through study of theory (like sticking patterns) and practice, lots of it, honing your limbs and muscles to the physical task your nourished musical brain wants to execute. After an extended warm-up and practice, the kit feels like a second skin. I think you shouldn't be so negative about Thomas and rather try his input, keep what works and discard what doesn't.
It's simple... Of course... It's simple! 😅
Me crying: yes it is c:
It is simple indeed. It's just basic strokes, triplets, etc... he's not doing crazy polyrhythms or odd times. Playing it fast is not simple, but what he is explaining is really simple.
Ahahahahaga xD
wow. ive been teaching drums for 12 years. ive always known OF thomas lang but I havent followed him closely. he went over some parts that are VERBATIM exactly as I would say to a student. Palms down, no karate chop, wrist has increased control compared to other strokes, triplets are the door to single stroke mastery.
feeling insanely validated in my own methods of teaching. Imposter symdrome is real and this helps a lot.
Thomas is a highly educated (Vienna) multi-instrumentalist. From a very young age, he practiced for hours daily. He has the knowledge to dissect and teach everything he does. I agree, there are too many bad instructors out there that waste a students money and time.
I didn’t know Thomas Lang ha Only Fans
@@WePlayTheBeatles 😐
@@Spenjira just kidding buddy 💪
The Schwarzenegger of drums
The Druminator!
@@bangbangyoureaboolean1324 Haha! Spot on!
@Michael Thornton Disservice? How so? It´s definitely much more accurate.
@Michael Thornton Arnold was Mr. Universe three times and the youngest Mr. Universe to this date before he even became a Hollwood superstar and later governor of California. So there´s your "show car" analogy. twat
@Michael Thornton LOL yeah, it's not like you have to work really hard for it. Troll elsewhere you clown
"Then speed it up." Got it.
This guy's drumming intelligence is second to none, he's a true craftsman and should be listened to very closely while playing and speaking of his knowledge on drumming. Absolutely top of his and the game! His advice on playing singles around the kit with palms down is something we don't hear often enough, it's absolutely correct that we have more control naturally playing palms down and that makes it easier to move larger distances around the kit with more control, which makes us more relaxed right away.Great excerpt thanks for post. 👊
This man is a BEAST!
Dude if this guy does not inspire you to want to get a drum kit or play the drums. You need to find a different video to watch GOD DAMN!!😭👏🏻
I think most beginners will watch this and be inspired to quit
@@c0hink176 because he's not musical, he plays like a robot
@@Martin_Bernard Have you ever heard him play outside of this video?
@@Martin_Bernard naaaah , he plays good you are just jealous
@@FelipeLeiter It's sad to see is goal seems to be as robotic as possible, no feel, no groove, no musicality, these are the most important parts about being a drummer, he lacks in a band situation, he lacks in a musical situation compared to top drummers, also his solos are always the same old thing, he's the master at recycling, same on his DVDs, just showing off his technique and people don't learn anything from him
He actually doesn't play palms down when you look more carefully, but uses the american grip which is in between german and french, as way easier and more energy efficient
In my opinion,, you need the entire spectrum of grips, at least for certain applications. I rarely go full German, but I do vary a lot in the space between American and French, depending on the situation. French unlocked a new understanding for me in some ways, really into practicing that right now.
That man is a drumming laviathon!
Drums sound amazing!
He is a great teacher.
It's just really simple!!! except I'm not that fast. - Still learning here.
No matter if we just started or have been drumming for decades, we're all learning. :)
Very nice drumer im look since Mexico
Thank you I’ve been looking for someone to break it down. That was perfect. 👏🏽🎯💯
He gives you the key and open the door for you. This is a generous man. A national treasure.
simplicity is key in how he lays it out. Great!
It's simple for .00001% of people.
And just increase to 455bpm - it’s that simple! 😬
Thanks for the drum lesson 🥁
It's simple really
😐
Yeah
SIMPLE
2:49, the correct hand position is palm faces down. I have learned handpalm is facing left/right. I think it is what you prefer more. I using both.
There is no "right" grip, there's just the right grip for certain situations.
Lord of drums.
1980. Journey - La Do Da on Captured Live, Steve Smith used these techniques gaining the nickname "machine gun". Great to hear them being used today!
Absolute Legende.
Terrific stuff..! 👍🏻
Excellent as always and I have to say DAMN those drums sound great!
His approach is so easy and logical . It's a shame drumeo nuked the original video. He in that one hour video made 90% of the world's drum teachers and methods obsolete.
Some points from the original
*Any thing you can do with you hands you can do with you feet
*Drum rudiments aren't just simple pad exercises and should be applied to the drum kit .
* Lead with right hand when going from left to right on kit and left hand when going from right to left on the kit .
So try 2 singles per drum, count 1+2+3+4+ from left to right. RLRLRLRL on say hi hat ,snare ,tom ,tom ,then back the other way from right to left 1+2+3+4+ LRLRLRLR tom tom snare hi hat . Now do, doubles , triplets etc being the drum rudiments patterns.
A parra diddle is a 2 singles followed by a double repeating, RLRR LRLL 1234 1234 OR 1+2+3+4 ETC
*Now try it on different drums in different orders.accents.
*Start slow.
*Experiment
*Maintain good posture .
I'm a survivor of the original video. If you weren't there you don't know man. There's bits where you can see Jareds mind blow out his arse in hd with gulps and all.
Things in drumming are usually cyclical . You end at the beginning and begin at the end.
Always remember where 1 is.
Enjoy and good luck
th-cam.com/video/9Xo9rF1scnY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Df5VaxKwJDmlUA52
A similar but much slower lesson
good 'ol Thomas
Monster!
He`s pretty good ha ha, DAMN.
How does he play that fast!?!
20 years of practice...
@@rahuljosephp8603 20?! Probably more like 40-50
Praaaaaactice. Loooots of it. Almost anyone could theoretically do it, but only a select few love this sht so much that they are willing to put *all* the hours and effort into it.
Wow!
Freaking Drum Cyborg. Period.
Awsome!!
"Speed it up, its simple" Proceeds to have the sustained blast speed of a minigun.
The key is in the fact that it's triplet. The hands always open themselves up to the opposite side of the kit every time you play three notes. This makes going around very easy and, once you reach a certain speed, it's much harder to tell how fast he's actually playing, leading a lot of people to think he's playing 16th or 30 seconds
It's simple in its basic concept, not the execution. A rocket is also a simple concept, stuff gets blown out of a nozzle, rocket goes opposite direction. Doesn't mean you can just build a Saturn 5 and send it to the moon.
Okay, great.
Superb
Genius.
"Then speed it up .... to 1000bpm"
i could never go that fast , thats faster than lightning
"then speed it up.." yep, ok, your slow is my fast dude
The palm always faces down. German technique!
it's simple he said.. jared is a funny dude 😅
It’s simple :’) İt’s :’) very :’)simple :’)
oh yeah. .. simple ... ok Thomas ... LOL
Minute 4:08 // Hey! Let´s go to Mars!!
I quit
Dennis Chambers can cross going both ways
10 reps of water. good.
I can play like him 🤪
Do you often have these dreams?
😂
Ok. Now, a little faster. See very simple. Very easy. Lol, as I quit playing drums forever and put the for sale sign on my Ludwigs
Plenty of the best drummers play french grip though (thumbs up)
Health problems arise eventually if you play as hard as Thomas
yes man, he just roasted french grip lol
There's a good usecase for every grip. I find some things easier and more expressive with french grip, but I mostly play american. Being able to seamlessly switch between grips while playing is a major asset, that's why I'm working very hard to learn this.
So the german guy uses german grip. Huh!
he looks like my boy ed o brien
It s simple.... it s simple... 🥴🥴 ok
🤣
Additional lesson for me
where'd he find that ride cymbal? the local dump
Slow the vid down to 25-50% dudes still blazing fast 😅 “...try it”….
Geez
Simple?
Mamma
good vid bad quality lol
😳
But…why?
Per te è molto facile, secoli di studio.... Spiegazione troppo veloce. Ovviamente sei un mito, ma per noi batteristi semplici.. eh eh eh
It's funny how he shows the german grip and tells you that you should play with your palms facing down yet when he actually plays he never uses that technique. He clearly uses American grip. German grip is for marching drummers who had their drums close to the body when they were in battle, it was the only way to play that drum. German grip should be buried along with the traditional grip. Also he says not to play french yet he can play french grip perfectly. It's funny how one of the best drummers in the world doesn't know what he's doing. He's doing it PERFECTLY but he doesn't know how he's doing it. He's just repeating what his drum teachers have said but it's not what's he's actually doing. Because he practiced so much his body naturally steered away from what his teachers said and did what was the most natural and effortless thing in stead.
To be honest he doesn't say "don't play in French grip". He sad that he uses basically wrists, not fingers (and it's true), but of course he can play with his fingers. And yes, I agree that he uses american grip, not german.
@@Miller-hb9qv That's sort of how it comes out, "don't karate chop the drums". French grip is an important skill even if you never use it. It will help the american grip a lot.
You make a good point. It's good to learn different techniques and use what is natural and allows you to get the job done easiest.
My drum teacher decades ago tried to force the palms down technique on me and it took time to deprogram from that idea.
Many of these guys are technicians and definitely German in their approach (as in, it MUST be done THIS WAY). While I respect the ability, sometimes I feel like we are watching a sporting event rather than talking about making music.
@@SGray44444 I just think this shows how practicing enough will eventually make your body choose the path of least resistance naturally no matter what you think you are doing. Some music genres are definitely like sporting events, like the extremely fast metal stuff.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 What's not to agree about? He clearly plays american. Learning french grip will help "de-germanise" your technique and open up the possibility to use your fingers in the american grip. Bill Bachmann explains it very well in this video: th-cam.com/video/C56MMPMZ_cE/w-d-xo.html
Simple ???? WTF 😅😅😅😅
Ugh, this is so pointless (in my opinion). Just play. If you play long enough, and you have a diverse selection of music, you'll eventually figure out that there is a flow, or a dance, etc.. to the music. Don't worry about playing Lrr, rll, Lrr, floor, Rll, Lrr.. blah blah blah. It's good to sit there and put the accent on the 5th hit of a RLL though, because that forces you to put the accent on the upstroke and on the down stroke ... which is something useful to have.
What Thomas is doing is not considered teaching to me, it is showing off. . "oh, look how fast I can do this. all you have to do is put the accent on the crash, or next time put it on the left tom. blah blah blah. If you're so concerned with the timing of everything,. you're going to miss out that there is a flow to playing the drums. . the flow will put you int he correct position to hit doubles, accents, etc. The music will call for that stuff... you just need to have the flow of the music down at some point
To me, the flow comes through study of theory (like sticking patterns) and practice, lots of it, honing your limbs and muscles to the physical task your nourished musical brain wants to execute. After an extended warm-up and practice, the kit feels like a second skin. I think you shouldn't be so negative about Thomas and rather try his input, keep what works and discard what doesn't.
Wow!