Rhaenyra Targaryen Confronts Daemon | House of the Dragon Season 2 | Max
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- Trust is everything.
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Tremendous acting. The flinch she did when she thought he was going to put his hands on her neck again. Amazing
Right!!! Her lil flinch 😩 phenomenal acting from both of them!!
That would've been hilarious
@@clayselwynyeah everyone is incredible on the show. Even cough cough Criston Cole
@@Monk_Chudhow? 😂
Damon: Calm ☺️ Down!
“He was not afraid of youuu, Daemon! He could not trust you.” Just phenomenal
Daemon: And yet he trusted that Leech, Otto Hightower! I was always truthful with him. He just didn't want to hear it.
@@Bioshocker66609 Otto was trustful, until he played Alicent to marry his late grace.
@@Wordlifematt Otto was not trustful. He ran a political intelligence empire, and killed and murdered and burned all the same as Daemon. Only he did it neat tidy political ways all the while acting in his own interest. Viserys was delusional and out of touch. The kingdom was born from melted armies. Daemon refuses to use diplomacy the same way Viserys refused to use brute strength, and it makes them both terrible leaders. Criston and Alicen and Rhaenyra and Viserys all live in a bubble where the fairy tales of past honor were real. They were not ever real. The only problem Otto has with daemon is that he is murderous in indulgent and self-defeating ways. He would love Daemon if never got caught doing the things he did. In fact he would most likely pay him for services and then have him stabbed in the back.
@@gezenewsthere are some theory, that otto hightower or maesters (on his command) also poisoned viserys father prince baelon, he was just 5 days the hand of the king of his father, then he died and otto was made hand of the king of jaehaerys I.
@@Wordlifematt a trustworthy hand does not send spies out to tail the king's brother. at least not without the king's say so.
She lost her father, went through an agonising labour, pulled her dead baby from her womb and then lost another child the same day. Yet she still got herself together and NEVER acted impulsively. She's an incredible woman for just being able to get up every day, let alone lead a council of men. I'd just want to shrivel up and die.
Her inaction is worse than impulsive. She caused Luke to die.
@@markbrown8533It's still bothering me of how no one ever taught to bring Rhaenys to Storm's End instead of Luke because Rhaenys is half Baratheon and she would be better to convince Borros to join forces. Also, her dragon, Meleys a.k.a the Red Queen is also as agile as Caraxes and it could easily avoided Vhagar and Rhaenys has more experience to ride dragon than Luke as Arrax still too little. But, oh well, conflicts needs to happened.
Well if rhaenys would be there them Vhagar attack wouldn't happen in the first place. @@margarethmichelina5146
Literally the INACTION cost her the War
Doing nothing was worst than action like Daemon
its not impulsive to prepare for the inevitable. After aegons coronation her first insticnt was still to try to negotiate for peace when its so obviously clear the greens werent going to compromise
"When I was a child, I took this as a challenge."
i CaN fIx HiM
Rhaenyra showing her own growth and maturity, meant to hold the audience's hand along...only to have some of the audience still on team "i CaN FiX hIm!" He brutalized everyone and has even brutalized her in the past. She is becoming wiser and people don't wanna admit to rooting for a genuinely deplorable dude with no soft snuggly hidden insides.
@@Rainsofchange Daemon has good in him, but he is beyond redemption.
This is probably one of the most realistic fights between a couple I have seen on screen. Not overly dramatic, just raw emotion, both pressing each others buttons, the anger and the astonishment when the other hurls an insult. Class acting and writing.
Yes! I agree! It seems like a long-brewing fight between a married couple, so real (save for the subject matter 😂). But wow, that’s fabulous writing and acting there. Amazing.
Lol u didnt see nothing : tobby macguire vs nathalie Portman, dicaprio vs Kate winslet
@@chakib4391"Didn't see nothing"
Yes...we are going to listen to someone that uses that sentence.
Omg Yessss. I've been saying this to so many people. This is such a realistic argument/fight between a married couple. Some people disagree but I'll forever stay true to this
“You sought greatness but shrink away from spilling blood to achieve it.” Man that quote stuck with me.
Spoken like a true warlord. Rhaenera thinks strength in numbers in terms of supporters will win the Throne via peaceful means but the cold war turned into a hot one the moment Aemond killed Lucerys and Daemon had Jaehearys assassinated.
@@Senate300yes, but I would say it was bloody in the moment they decided to usurp the throne. Daemon and Otto are the only ones who can see reality as it is
@@ginopinori Love them or hate them, both understand that neither of their party is safe until the opposing side us completely eliminated. And thats something Rhaenera, Rhaenys and Alicent fail to grasp.
From what the overall narrative of the series seems to be is that the men around Alicent & Rhaenera are pushing the DOD the most and they're treated like victims of circumstances beyond their control and a patriarchal society with little agency over their actions. Only the former is held more accountable than the latter.
"The greatest victory is that which requires no battle." Sun Tzu, The Art of War. Is it easier to hold a grudge or to say you are sorry? Is it easier to kill your enemies or make peace with them. Peace through diplomacy is harder to achieve than through bloodshed. But yeah, it would be easy just to use dragons and burn them all to death.
In the book this happens just after the events in Village Dodonga.
Matt had me jumpscared with his slap on the goblets.
He did not slap one but two LOL
Time to Slap on the goblets
he can slap my goblets i tell you hwhat
@@Saurkraut_6 Better the goblets than her.
Loved that detail and the way he jumped up @@whoschach
Emma D'Arcy is absolutely phenomenal.
Honestly. I’ve watched this scene so many times and have developed such admiration for them. Absolutely insane talent.
@@ballin139
"Her"
Stop this madness
@@ballin139this whole episode was full of scenes I keep rewatching. This one, the Aegon Otto post rat catchers , Aegon's "I declare war."
@@DarkFrostX5lmao I thought he was talking about Matt and Emma, was so confused when you corrected him
@@DarkFrostX5 get over yourself ;d
“To indulge that darkness you keep sheathed within you like a blade.”
Great line.
The writing and dialogue this season has been amazing so far
Lol his blade is literally called dark sister
This episode had of the best acting in the series, Along with Otto confronting Aegon
These two scenes ❤
These two scenes plus Phia's acting during Procession.
Otto's laugh when Aegon said "My father made me king"... chills down my spine.
Rhys delivers every line with perfection. What a beautiful delivery
It’s close, but paddy Constantine still remains king. From the first episode when he told Aemma he loved her, I knew it was a legendary performance.
"Who sought greatness, but shrank from spilling blood." - Daemon
Really hits that
As a targaryen myself, i agree.
And then there’s him. Who bathes in it
Daemon aims to get it on and done won the game over, next!
"Done, I'm done, and I'm on to the next one!" - Foo Fighters
"And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that. These were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us." - Kurtz
Daemon: [dictates to raven] They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write 'Freak' on their dragons because it is obscene.
You could’ve told me this dialogue was lifted from Shakespeare and I wouldn’t be surprised. It feels like the writers wanted to emulate an argument between Coriolanus and some hybrid of Emilia and Cordelia.
I thought the same.
Shakespeare is far superior. This was mediocre at best
You can really tell Emma got their start in Shakespeare this felt like a play unfolding. Beautiful
honestly this whole episode had amazing writing
Damon: Take A Breath!
The face she makes before daemon puts his hand on her cheek because she expects him to possibly choke her again but she doesn't want to show weakness ☹️
He was going to choke her again, look at both his hands
@@GiveonKing never said he wasn't lol
@@sina3602 just adding
Possibly my favourite part of this BEAUTIFULLY directed scene, is when Rhaenyra shouts 'he was not afraid of you Daemon' all I can hear is the frustrated bellowing of Viserys shouting in the same way about the insufferable infighting. Emma sounds SO much like Paddy's bass notes there its PERFECT casting to show she's absolutely her father's daughter
My favorite part is when she calls Daemon pathetic. Sadly, this scene ends just before that.
1:59 She sounds so genuine and on the verge of tears.
“In his grief” Emma’s acting is theatrical and borderline omnipotent 👏🏽🥹
@@MeleysTessarion Yes! This delivery lives in my head.
the acting in this scene damn near brought me to tears it was so raw i felt like i was a fly in the room witnessing a private argument
Edit:
Thanks everyone! that's my first 1k I was just speaking from the soul
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Get a life this is for entertainment
@@user-qv4bp7vg6u parents related
@@user-qv4bp7vg6u it's almost as though they arr appreciating an artistic expression 🤡
This whole episode had excellent acting all around.. Otto Hightower killed it as well!!
Really great acting. When these two are on screen, I want more. They both had valid points. Daemon just wants Rhaenyra to be strong and not make the mistakes Viserys make and Rhaenyra have to deal with the consequence of Daemon mistake. Not to mention this is fresh off of Luke death and everyone is grieving. Grief messes up people in different ways. However I feel they will work it out.
In GOT? Wishful thinking. An amicable end for *someone* at best. For everyone? Not likely. LMAO
Saying Daemon just wants her to be strong is a generous interpretation of his issues with her. I think it's more that Rhaenyra's right: he wants to be the one making the decisions because he believes he knows best. He doesn't respect that she is the one who is in charge, and so he does whatever he wants and damn the consequences (which are almost always bloody because Daemon is a violent person, and what he wants is usually murder or revenge).
@@seanp2871 This! I can't believe anyone could have such a charitable interpretation of Daemon's actions.
Nope he is right. Daemon only wants her to be strong but she has shown herself to be weak since the beginning. @@seanp2871
@@seanp2871It’s probably not even a conscious thought. He wants Rhaenyra to act as he would’ve: boldly, decisively & without sentiment weighing him down.
Unfortunately Daemon is the kind of guy who’s grown up repressing sentiment so he can’t empathize with others who don’t feel the way he does which is one of his great flaws.
I do think the running theory still holds that Daemon does not, in fact, want the crown. We've seen how diabolical he can be to get what he wants, if he wanted the throne he would have already taken it. What he's always wanted is to be accepted by his older sibling (Viserys) and to have a voice at the table. Daemon was always at his best when Viserys approved of him, and at his lowest when his brother didn't, and just wanted to be seen as smart and capable despite his vices and impatience. If I had vowed to protect the king, vowed again to protect the queen after his passing, then fought, murder, bled, and went to war on her behalf, it might irk me a little bit too that my loyalty was being questioned.
There is undoubtedly some dark part of him that doesn't see Rhaenyra as a queen, even thinks he could do it better. I think even he would acknowledge that. But I think acknowledging a perceived reality isn't the same as acting out on it. Just because Daemon thinks he'd make a better ruler doesn't mean he has any intention of taking it, only that he's bitter that he feels his older brother who never understood him used his own niece as a tool to keep him in his place.
Daemon is still a monster, and I'm not saying any of Rhaenyra's accusations aren't true. But I get why he's angry here.
I still believe he does want it. He even started an entire war for that reason. As for your argument, it is completely valid, as Daemon was loyal to his brother and would never usurp his throne or hurt him. The same cannot be said for his niece, though…
@@_antillas8674Daemon literally crowned her and is on his way to assemble an army for her at harrenhal he's fully loyal to his family.
Daemon: Please 🙏 Calm 😌 Down!
@@_antillas8674 two truths can be right at once. daemon wants the throne because he knows he would be better suited to rule but he also is not an outright usurper or kinslayer and he is loyal to whoever is lawfully the heir. he might want the throne but he doesn't want to get it by cheating. otherwise if he truly wanted and did not care for family or morals, he would have gotten it by now. more than ever i think it stings him that even though he did all the dirty work, his brother and NOW rhaenyra still do not give him the credit and trust he should have gotten long back. he is right, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, both viserys and rhaenyra only know how to whine and act moral but do not want to do the hard work and make tough decisions.
agreed!
If Emma and Matt do not get Emmy nominations for this scene alone, I will be shocked, they're terrific.
This couple is truly the heart and soul of the show.
I love how both of them use Viserys memory as a tool to further their own interests, and neither of them understand nor will ever be able to understand the true reason why Viserys had chosen Rhaenyra as his heir, or why he was so incredibly stubborn about It. It's right, Viserys didn't make her an heir because of her character or her wisdom. It was because of Aemma. It was because If he wasn't corrupted by the obsession of having a male heir, Aemma could have lived and survived. Viserys risked his reputation, everything, to keep Rhaenyra as an heir because he loved her desperately, because Rhaenyra was the last bit of Aemma that was left to him in his world. The choice was his chosen redemption act. To defend It and be worth of Aemma's forgiveness in his mind, he was determined to walk to the Iron Throne and sit on It while he was nothing more than a walking corpse just to defend Rhaenyra. Surely he didn't trust Daemon one bit when he made the decision, but It was never about that.
They will never know the truth, how can they? If only they knew. But maybe It's a blessing in disguise that they can never know.
Dude, Viserys was weak and stupid and the main reason for all the war to come imo
@@kristianpadley5562 a very weak king who was not suited for the throne, but could be assertive when pushed around much. Ultimately, he was a good man at heart, though a bit short-sighted despite being at times surprisingly insightful
@@kristianpadley5562 Have I ever said what I think of Viserys as a ruler? No. I only talked about his reasons for keeping Rhaenyra as his heir. Reasons that don't include Rhaenyra's qualities as a ruler, and neither his despise for Daemon at the time. The reason was Aemma and his own personal guilt, plain and simple.
The man surely was a weak king under many aspects for most of his life, and his love for maintaining peace around him at every cost made him lack in assertiveness, his cowardice or laziness surely created a fertile ground for this civil war; but his love for his daughter and his guilt towards Aemma and the situation around her passing are undeniable. Simple as that.
You totally forgot about the vision of the long night that was passed down by Targaryen rulers. Daemon didn't respect or believe in dreams (dreams didn't make us kings, dragons did), so Daemon wouldn't be fit to rule because he might risk neglecting the passing down of the prophecy. This surely must've been a major consideration in choosing Rhaenyra over Daemon
Not killing people right and left, not raping and pillaging other lands, betraying his friends and family, and not burning cities to the ground does not make him weak. You probably think Daenerys would have been a good Queen.
I love how she stands her ground while he gains control of himself. I love her for that, she’d been through enough. All the emotions she showed in just a few seconds whew!
Emma’s flinching told a perfect story that Rhaenrya knew she needed to stand her ground despite the fear she held towards her wild card, unpredictable husband. She is a Targaryen Queen and mustn’t show fear.
From her lip opening up a tiny fraction as he approached, to her flinching when he put his hand towards her.
Phenomenal acting on both of them but especially Emma !
Her vulnerability made it 10x more effective. I always believed someone’s strength comes from them overcoming there lowest moments but she absolutely stood her ground throughout this entire conversation. He gaslit and her and borderline slutshamed her with the “virtue” comment. When he was literally the one who taught her about sexual liberation lmaooo. She gagged him on this conversation and left him speechless that the only thing he could do was walk out 😂
Emma is an amazing actor. They always steal the scene.
@@MeleysTessarion Truth equals gas lighting ???
was Viserys the Xeaker of the 2 sons yes or no ??
did he know viserys better then Rhaenyra (he grew up with him) yes or no ??
was viseys weak yes or no ?
Did he disinherit his brother out of spite , yes or no ? "the heir for a day" imagine changing the succession of an entire kingdom because you a few words... smh thats some great king work...
did Viserys name Rhaenyra heir for any other reason ?? if so what ?? because when his wife was giving birth Rhaenyra had been alive for quite some time and even her knew that her next brother was going to be the heir... Viserys also.
viserys and his daughter dont have what it take for that world ... THE THRONES IS LITERALLY made od SWORDS... its a violent world. their ancestors were violent and seize power through violence ...
reneging on that and thinking they were kings for any other reasons than they had Dragons showed how stupid Viserys was ...
he really wasnt bright.. spent his whole life with the one man who planed to shatter his wishes... smh
some king ...
@@grichkatayou7558 he gaslit her when she talked about the unfairness and inconsideration he expressed when she labored alone with Visenya thinking she was gonna die. She was yelling his name and even told Jace to prohibit any decisions being made at the council and HE DID NOT LISTEN. He refuses to let her finish her sentence and calls it a “folly” which is gaslighting the conversation
@@MeleysTessarion 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what is this ?? What was he going to do there … do you even know what was the custom in that world ??
People are trying to kill us , instead of making sure dragon stone is defended and protected , he was supposed to do what … be there to tell her “push” ?? 🤣🤣🤣 what ??
The folly is her being weak … it was not a normal tuesday … they had just been made aware people were coming for their heads …
Less emotion , more thinking …
ep 2 is just them showing their Oscars worthy act what an episode 👏🏼
Emmy worthy *
Daemon: Take Her Breath.
Oscars are for movies lol
Two masterful performers going back and forth like this is amazing television. Matt and Emma were born to scene partners.
Emma D'Arcy is the finest actor this show has. Incredible performance after incredible performance. Bless whoever discovered them for the role of Rhaenyra. What a LEAD.
You meant, her?
@@_antillas8674 careful the rainbow mafia will find you and eat you
@@_antillas8674 Get over it, Emma is they/them, if you don’t want to refer to them as that OK, but don’t try to create arguments in a youtube comment section when someone DOES decide to respect their pronouns.
@@_antillas8674No, they had it right.
@@catiebellas I thought she's a woman, so that makes me right, not the other person.
Emmys. Give them all the Emmys.
Save a few for the rest of the cast though, Otto and Aegon definitely deserve a couple
@@anatoldenevers237
The twins Arrk and Erryk too. The entire cast is perfect.
You get an Emmy! You get an Emmy! Everyone gets and Emmy!
This episode was beautifully shot, directed, acted, not a single weak performance by anyone. Bravo
Emma D'arcy deserves an emmy for this season.
She looks so stunning this episode.
Compared to real life, its a shame
@@MrPlazmaWalker why its a shame???
Daemon is a bit unpredictable and ruthless but he does love her and has aided in her pursuit for the throne Ngl .
Literally she asked HIM to marry after driftmark for the main reason to make her claim stronger and that no one would challenge. He was going to go to pentos with his daughters and not back to kinds landing like viserys asked him. He then faked laenors death for HER to that they can marry. Of course out of care and love it was the best option for them.
And now everything he has done essentially after they got married was for her. Now this is where it bugs me a little that I’m sure daemon knows the reputation he has around the kingdom (duh obviously having by your side is important rhaenrya) and he doesn’t care what they think about him but it’s always been about his family’s option that he cared most about and now rhaenrya is basically treating him like viserys did and that upsets him and low-key he is kind of being over looked in a way in terms of strategy. He was been wanting to go to harrenhal since season finale but rhaenrya didn’t want that. Last ep was the same thing while she was looking for Luke’s remains he was willing to get on the dragon after vhagar and/or go to harrenhal but he had to stay behind. I think that’s scene with Rhaenys was great because even after their differences he went to the 1 other person he can trust to fight with him… his cousin because he is justifiably angry and I think in that moment daemon also could’ve needed some validation for his anger and he is not getting it from the rest. He believes his brother was killed by the enemy after all the time he was sceptical about Otto since day 1. Now luke killed by the ENEMY and both deaths for them there was no body for them to bury/burn
@@siyamafuya7163 thank you and he actually genuinely loves his family but he had to step out of the family to literally become Daemon Targaryen and he did just that good and bad he went down in history as a legendary figure in their world . Every Targaryen after them is a direct descendant all the way to Jon and Dany.
@@siyamafuya7163 she asked him to marry her yes, but he groomed her for years when she was younger. Do you not think both things are related?
He’s a groomer and a n abuser in the show. He’s a better man in the book
@@siyamafuya7163you don’t understand grooming victims. Of course she was gonna wanna marry the man who has been touching her since she was a girl
I'm not here to debate/argue over fictional characters and their fictional choices, I'm just here to comment that if nothing else, this show is overflowing with acting talent who are bringing it completely with every scene they're in. Magnificent.
Hello, How are you?
Emma D'arcy has completely enthralled me with this role. They are an acting powerhouse.
*she
@@ip7658 not funny
From this scene you can tell Matt and Emma have a ton of experience acting on stage. This was broadway level stuff. They have great chemistry as actors and characters in the show. As characters you can tell that they are deeply infatuated with each other, yet they have unsettling animosity as well.
The British stage. Broadway died with the birth of wokeism.
The acting here is insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeee omfg I could write essays
With your limited vocabulary, I sincerely doubt that. One seldom sees an essay composed of abbreviations.
@@tessdurberville711 oh you must feel so big & proud, i hope you find peace in whatever traumas plague your life to make you react to a random person you know nothing about, expressing her excitement for something she enjoyed with disdain & detached narcissism 💜
@@tessdurberville711 What a bitter life you must lead to lash out like a child pretending to be an intellectual.
This scene and the Otto's one was just pure phenomenal acting! What a great episode!
The Cargyll fight as well.
'...in YOUR name Rhaenyra. YOURS!'
Damn he sounds so heartbroken.
But shows zero remorse for killing his brother's grandson.
@@amorojaz27 It was a mistake .. he intended to kill his brother's son instead
@@AemadGreenMusicthe son in question was a grown man and a warrior who, as far as anyone knows, murdered his stepson. Aemond would be fair game, although for some reason Daemon didn't have the guts to face Aemond himself. Plus, he hired two idiots to get the job done without considering the blowback.
@@amorojaz27 Didn't have the guts to face aemond??? Are you suggesting that it would've been a good idea for daemon to try and get inside the red keep himself?? That would've been suicide! And guess what!!! (Spoiler alert)
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Daemon kills aemond himself in the book :)
@@AemadGreenMusic yeah, that's more plot armor than skill.
The problem with Daemon i see is he is never willing to open and say the simple things... taht he missed and wanted Viserys trust, that he will not betray Rhaenyra.. instead he just goes in rounds because hed rather be seen as a villain than a normal human with emotions.
I can feel his internal struggle through the screen when she gave so many openings for him.... Matt Smith in epsiode 8 and this... IMO is one of the best acted on TV.
Yeah we remember him acting out at Laena's funeral. He could not show that he was grieving and that he loved her and was lost now, so he laughs disrespectfully in front of her own parents.
@hafsahassan394 idk if you're being sarcastic or not.
But he laughs because vermond was pointedly mocking Rhaenyras kids if I remember right.
@@94Dragon123 pretty typical that even after all this time people still don't understand the meaning of that scene, this is a reoccurring theme around daemon unfortunately
@@94Dragon123 Daemon is the epitome of toxic masculinity. Westeros has too many of those. It badly needs an Aragorn.
@@CertainlyCynical I mean at this point it’s easy for people to throw that saying “he’s a complex character” when talking about aemond or even aegon in the start of S2 when in honesty I feel like no one gets and can handle daemon Targaryen
Mom and dad are fighting 😔
Aka uncle and niece lmao
@@szn1580Thank god they’re not brother and sister lmao
@@olgapanemorfopo4698 that's even worse
@@olgapanemorfopo4698lmao
@@olgapanemorfopo4698 and we've all seen how Helaena and Aegon turned out lol
2:23 Its pure *acting.* Emma its the best.
I was in awe during this scene, especially at Emma' delivery
That scene was intense! I'm appreciating Emma Darcy's acting more this season. Excellent stuff!
I am so, so glad that english actors more often than not get their first-hand experience in acting through theater. The way they deliver these dialogs it almost feels poetic. It's one thing for writers to know how to write a script worth a thousand emotions, but to have actors who know just how to portray those emotions through the screen; be it verbal or through microexpressions... absolutely phenomenal.
The acting was top notch. I never sae them argue before in the show. They always shared a bond closer than anyone else in the show. It was painful to watch. He really thought he was trustworthy for her but forgot that he was also part of the reason for that trust and abandonment issues she has. And tbh i agree with daemon too. He has so many good points. Both of them do that makes this more painful.
I actually feel that Daemon in his own way, had the best intention at heart. By best intention I mean, to aid Rhaenyra get what she wanted. "I want Aemond Targaryen" were her exact words. Daemon immediately moved to grant her this wish. People keep talking about how Daemon wanted to be King, but the entire heir talk is just part of his mischief.
He always looked to protect his brother, immediately bent the knee when he returned from the Stepstones, placed the crown on the head of the ruler twice (one for Viserys and one for Rhaenyra.
Viserys said himself, Daemon has no interest in the throne. Much like Aegon said at first, he has no taste for it. But he deeply respects what it symbolizes and what it means to sit on it.
Fully agree. At this point during the Dance, Daemon is rather unselfishly supporting his wife.
Like when most consorts do, at least their son will be next in line. But no! He specifically supports Jace, a half Targaryen but his wife's son, as her heir. He fortifies Dragonstone for her, crowns her, raises an army for her, (in the book) carries out vengeance for Luc to support her, then crowns her again in Kings Landing, guarding her from any attack. What he gets in return is only an unwanted consort title (not desirable for one who is a grandson of a king, pureblood Targaryen prince and the most legendary man in Westeros at this point), his own son only being fourth in line, and her constant mistrust.
I just don't see how you can write this as selfishly wanting power.... The show writers just miss the history and motivations of Daemon that are there in the Books.
The guy was smirking while they were in the council discussing Jahaerys' death. Rhaenys imediatly knew who did it.
I kind of disagree. Daemon was itching for war. When Rhaenyra said she wanted Aemond, I think he just used that as an excuse to indulge his bloodlust. (And if it had the added benefit of pleasing his queen and wife, that was just a perk.) He undermined his queen by going around her. Had he succeeded, Rhaenyra would have forgiven him though. The fact that he shows no remorse (he was literally smirking during the council) for the decapitation of a little child-something for which he is indirectly responsible-makes it all the worse.
Daemon is complicated to say the least.
In a weird way, he genuinely loves his family and has little interest in usurping the crown. Having said that, Daemon likes the power of being king consort and hand of the king, and he sees Rhaenera and Viserys as weak willed and compromising, thus blocking his own more warlike interest
Imagine the ending like GOT Daemon stabbed Renira in the back 😅😅
The acting in this scene and in this episode was great. They really let the actors shine in this one.
Amazing chemistry. Please do more daemyra scenes next season and please do at least one interview and photo shoot of Emma and Matt🙏
I've definitely been suffering for the lack of Emmatt content for a second season in a row.
Great chemistry between an incestuous couple who built their relationship on grooming?
Brilliant performances. They both deserve Emmys. 👏🏻
One of the best written scenes in the whole series. Kudos to this episode’s writer, this felt like a medieval argument between a couple going through a divorce
It’s a shame we won’t see them together much this season
not until episode 8 i hear
Emma’s acting is so good, she’s a great actress!
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The writing and the acting reminds me of early game of thrones so much. Just pure perfection.
The fact that Max put out this clip from Episode 2 shows it was hands down the BEST scene of the season so far. And I couldn’t agree more!
This one show does what Disney fails to see. Quality writing and quality acting. Anyway, superb job on the actors' part for the stellar performances. 👏👏
That’s British acting my dear !!!
In the us Hollywood see u as a marketing tool your looks and beauty and then your abilities.
In the uk you have to study acting you have to do theatre and then maybe comes the looks .
Two times this man has been asked if he accepted his wife as his queen and ruler! lol, Go Matt Smith and your Princely roles🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking the same when the scene came up😂
Oh the crown😂
"You sought greatness but shrink away from spilling blood to achieve it." Such a great quote.
Daemon and Tywin must have a dialogue because they would be friends for life
Pretty sure Tywin would hate Daemon, if only because he's too unpredictable.
@@amorojaz27 You can hate someone but still respect him. That's what I'm talking about, I'm absolutely sure that they would respect each other
Tywin only used force when he needed it. He is more like Otto
@@SpringSun-ll5bm Daemon and Tywin both have similar views on life, have done similar things and both put their family first and lead them to power. Tywin is not like Otto at all imho
@@hereiam8Tywin does not put his family first. Men who put their families first don't rape their youngest sons.
Emma and Matt ate this scene, most of the actors ate their parts in this episode. ❤
I noticed that Daemon got a theme song in this episode. It plays right after the scene where he leaves the room and walks down the hallway, and again when he leaves on his dragon. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure we haven't heard this tune before
Rhaenyra Targaryen - “To indulge the darkness, you keep sheathed within you like a blade. “
Daemon Targaryen - “You think me some kind of monster. “
Get Emma D’Arcy and Matt Smith their Emmy’s NOW
"You think me some kind of monster."
I would add. All of a sudden, you never complained about it before.
@@timothyw98 THAT PART! Ma’am you came out with the plan to “kill laenor” so they would marry all for the point that them two on the same side would be a good enough threat that no one would try to challenge but now you want to judge this man and say “I don’t know what you are”
0% dragones 100% personajes y guion, Chapeau. Te amo Emma DArcy.
The way he tosses the goblet and rises up from the chair🔥🔥🔥 and the moment of rhaneyras flinch😮 watched tat alone more than 10 times
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Two actors at the peak of their powers. What a scene 👏🏽
Really great dialogue and performances in this episode. Felt like an old Game of Thrones season.
With that acting, Emma D’Arcy will have grown men cry at the end of this series.
Some of the best acting in a tv show.
This is some great acting here! A very good scene 👍
I fully understand Daemon's anger in this scene. Blood and Cheese was brutal and was definitely misplaced anger on an innocent child, but honestly, what more could the man do to prove his loyalty to his family? If Daemon wanted the crown, he could have taken it any time. The fact that he didn't, always stood by Viserys, put the crown on Rhaenyra's head, took it personally when her son was killed, and laid down his life for her cause says it all. His hotheaded temper earned him a lot of enemies, but at least he was always honest with his brother snd wife about what he thought. Meanwhile, Otto schemes behind Viserys back, and he's appointed hand of the king.
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they said somewhere about hiring theater actors in these roles & you can tell w/ emma darcy performance probably my favorite scene of hers so far
@@ngin98 Matt and Emma are both seasoned theatre actors and if shines through for sure. Early this year Matt was just now busy with a play and Emma just finished doing one. You can never that the theatre out of theatre actors unfortunately 😅
Seriously some of the best acting in the whole show right here. So emotional and raw!
These two and then otto, just chewing up the scene
I love the creative freedom the writers have with this show to craft these private scenes that werent talked about in the book. And they are really working it to the best of their abilities. The writers love these characters and it really shows
They have great chemistry,really good acting!
Daemon could have just said what done is done, we are at war, I’m not sorry. But he genuinely cares what she thinks and how she feels. In spite of himself, he tries to say what she needs to hear without lying. Meanwhile, she’s digging up stuff that no longer matters cuz she has no other ammo. Her father is dead and Daemon never turned on her or tried to take the Iron Throne from her. He’s her royal consort, the father of her 2 youngest sons. His sons will sit the Iron Throne. She really thinks he’s so petty he would intentionally betray her or undermine her in any way? Calling him pathetic when he gets the vengeance she asked for is just unfair.
She didn't ask for Jaeherys to be killed. She wanted Aemond dead. Unfortunately, she married a murderous bully.
Daemon’s way of doing things just allowed Rhaenyra’s rightful wrath to become a horrific act that alienates her from the smallfolk and noble houses alike. I’d be questioning him too, If I were her.
Just as Otto sought power without being king, Daemon has taken to grasping for power in a different way. Rhaenyra's struggle with Daemon parallels Alicent's with Otto. She isn't bringing up past things that don't matter anymore. She is highlighting a pattern of behavior demonstrating his truer sentiments regarding her and the throne. She asks him he if truly accepts her as queen and snakes his way through the conversation before unraveling and outing himself and his true feelings about himself, her as queen, and his brother. He is dismissive of Rhaenyra both as a person and ruler and says as such because he believes("knows" in his mind) that her and his brother's way of ruling is wrong. His actions do not reflect careful consideration of her, but of himself.
The way she speaks is so similar to Paddy Considine’s Viserys
I think what makes this scene really works is the camera work itself. Not enough people talks about it but it’s really great.
HE WAS NOT AFRAID OF YOU, DÆMON!!!
When Rhaenyra accuses Daemon of plotting "his war" when she was in labor. Go rewatch Episode 10/S1, Daemon did EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.
• He knows Otto's plan will be to send a small band of assassins & do it thru stealth. So he organizes what little force they have on Dragonstone to watch the skies & the beaches. They dont have much men, but they can be vigilant & LOOK stronger than they are.
• He correctly understands that no more time can be wasted. The Greens had a head start & they need to play catch up & FAST. So he wants to secure the Riverlands & Harrenhall bc he knows strategically that will tip the war in their favor.
Jace walks in & says nothing is to be done w/out the Queen's consent. Daemon has the maester send the ravens anyways -- again, time can't be wasted.
All Daemon did in those crucial hours/days when Rhaenyra was struggling thru her birth -- something we've seen the MEN can do nothing abt -- He took the assertive role to PROTECT HIS QUEEN/WIFE & THEIR KIDS (present on Dragonstone) & in many ways to secure her claim as the rightful heir/ruler.
So when Rhaenyra answered Jace when he asked "Where's Daemon?" & she goes, "I dont know...gone to madness...gone to 𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘢𝘳..."
AND she throws that back in his face in THIS argument...dafuq??! He did what was necessary, he acted appropriately & he probably got them ahead of the curve which they desperately needed at the time.
It's bizarre that even Rhaenyra cannot recognize that.
EP7/S1, Rhaenyra BEGGED Daemon to join her. "I cannot do this without you". He was more than happy to fck off to Pentos & not deal with Westeros or it's politics/GOT. But he agreed for HER sake. & she KNEW Daemon's "darkness", in fact that's one of the key factors why she wanted him, "they will fear what else we may be capable of [together]". She wanted him & everything that comes with it.
When she accuses Daemon of "using her"..SHE USED HIM to secure HER claim & also to have LEGITIMATE heirs/kids, so ppl would potentially stop questioning her kids parentage. Make it make sense, Rhaenyra 🙄
& when she said her "I want Aemond Targaryen" line, she LOOKED directly at Daemon with a "do what you do" look in her eyes in that scene & she knew he's been out for blood since he learned Viserys died & they usurped her throne...what did she think was gonna happen?
& what responsibility will she bear for HER part in it? Bc she could've also said aloud "I want him dead, but we'll make a plan". Or something. When she singled out Daemon, she couldve pulled him aside & said "We'll do it together. Promise me." Point is, she had power/authority that could've prevented him from taking actions. Since we've seen him frustratingly idling by when he feels he should be unleashed. He obviously has respect & restraint...he doesn't like it, but he is capable of it.
This comment just gets it as you can’t dilly dally when it comes to war
Him organizing war efforts while she was giving birth would have gone over better if he consulted her
Aint no one without autism is reading this, bud.
@@gazzadonaNah Maradona every time.
@@marineldelatado Yeah it almost feels like Rhaenyra hasn't really processed that war is going to break out any day. She's not as delusional as Alicent but it does feel that she still hasn't grasped the reality of the situation.
what is with these 2 and rest of the cast? especially aegon (tom) going all put this season? like damn his screaming was top tier.
Season 1 didnt get a single emmy nomination for acting and they took that personally
At the end of the day, Daemon serves Daemon first.
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Good, no point serving an entitled, dense woman
thank you so many people claim Daemon is a good person simply because they like him
In an interview, Matt and condal actually say the opposite. I think they'll reveal daemon better at the end of the season.
@@Emanuel-oo6mc no one said he a good person , there are no 100% good persons on this show
He’s so dramatic slapping both cups
"Did I not place the crown on your brow?!"
Translation- 'woman what do you want??!' Lol excellent script & acting 👏
Rhaenyra, in her heart, knows what Daemon is, Everyone does.
That's why I hate him
And what is that? He is what he is and that is, only greatest of them all
@@RomarioPatricecringe
I don't think anyone really knows what Daemon is, even himself
@@Monk_Chud fail to see the cringe
When I see them here I get reminiscences of how it might be when Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys lived within those walls.
@@Alejojojo6 I would’ve loved to be a fly in the wall for those conversations
"A folly! A folly!"
"He was not afraid of you, Daemon! He could not trust you!"
Amazing acting
Daemon is right, her inability to act is what's going to cost her more in the end. Daemon maybe a hot head at times but he's willing to lead his men in battle plan strategies and put his life on the line no matter what happens.
They just lost her son, they were allowed to grieve.
@@emilyfrench481 while ur grieving ur enemy would be planning. And the greens literally acted within a day of the death of jaehaerys while rhaenyra was gone for days.
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Agreed but this is war, her son won't be the only casualty. She still has to act even when one's close to her are lost, that's where I think daemon's experience would have an upper hand. She could have always bent the knee if she didn't want war, this is what comes with it
I think Daemon is also frustrated because all he could see in his wife is his own brother and all of his perceived weaknesses for being an absolute monarch at time of war
Rhaenyra and her council's hesitations could really be frustrating for a man of action like Daemon, and had things gone according to his plan, no one would probably have an issue with what he did.
Rhaenyra already had a lot going against her and didn't need another hit. She is the one who has to live with the 'Rhaenyra the Cruel' moniker, not him. If they let it be known that Daemon carried out the order without her express knowledge, it will make her look like she can't control her own household. If they tell people it was a mistake and Aemond was the real target, they're going to look incompetent. They do need to take more action, but as their figurehead, it's Rhaenyra's image who suffers when blunders happen.
Rhaenyra was right viserys was not afraid or daemon. He couldn’t trust him.
2:25 you can just feel the frustration in Rhaenyra’s voice when she tells Daemon this cause he refuses to understand and see why Viserys kept him away.
@@pelu101 but at the same time daemon was there in the council meeting listening in to them say that viserys should fear him because of him being a threat that daemon could kill him and take his throne. That’s already implying that viserys should fear him and he would do the worst. So why wouldn’t daemons feelings about that be valid in his eyes? I think for both of them it’s their perspective on how they viewed viserys choices
@@siyamafuya7163 that is true, but Daemon was no choir boy either, he is wild and hot headed. Even though Viserys' council, specifically Otto, would try to convince him that he's a threat, he still gave him chances and didn't take away his right to heir to the throne until after he insulted him and realized he's power hungry.
@@pelu101 “realised he’s power hungry” Im sure collectively we can say maybe viserys makes a rash decision. But yes daemon is not perfect but daemon himself will say daemon is not person
@@siyamafuya7163 In that scene Viserys says he's not afraid of Daemon though and Viserys only ever worries about daemon after Daemon takes dragonstone and deliberately does everything he can to make Viserys angry at him. Daemon is just coping because in reality Viserys went very soft on him and gave him every chance to be a good bro and the reason they were estranged is because Daemon wanted it that way because he couldn't handle not being in power. Also I think Daemon is possibly projecting here because the dark part of him feels like he could have achieved greatness if he had been willing to kill his brother.
The dialog... the delivery just... 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌
Ok but daemon isn’t wrong. Rhaenyra was only made heir to keep him from getting the throne, not because she was wise or virtuous or a good fit. Her dad couldn’t even be bothered to prepare her for the throne or install a sense of duty into her.
His brother's weakness is half the reason Daemon is alive.
I agree. Viserys said it himself in Episode 3. In his mind he was protecting the realm from Daemon. Not because of her wisdom or great achievements or anything.
The acting in this scene was perfection. They both embody the characters and the emotions so well. I for one do not thing Daemon desires the throne but i know some people do. This scene really brings out more of their character and its so sad and amazing to watch. I was honestly almost brought to tears watching this scene. It was amazing and it will stay with me for a while. These two are one of mt favorite parts of the show and their relationship is so interesting and amazing to observe and analyze. I hope they can learn to trust one another again, even though it may not happen.
But aside from that, love the actors and these characters with my whole heart and season 2 is gonna be an emotional ride (as it is) ❤
matt smith does the matt smith walk in all matt smith roles
Daemon loves Rhaenyra, it's evident in his actions through his own ways and his own moral compass maybe only few could grasp
How is that evident? I don’t see love in his actions at all
you don't choke someone you love
You mean like when he choked her?
Especially when he chokes her.
Rheanyra is a good person. Green killed rheanyra son but she never wanted to hurt another child even if it’s green child
Pity it got her nothing in the end but more destruction to the realm.Even Otto's actor said that Rhaenyra is good and they will take advantage from it.If Rhaenyra was more decisive and ruthless her end would be different.She is empty talker just like her father which is comical because she's in trouble because his own inactive nature she also inherited.
@@user-ju8jb7tk5x Where does Otto actor say that?
In the book, Rhaenyra never specifically mentions wanting Aemond. The vengeance plotline is pure Daemon but she doesn't seem so angry at him for it either.
And I think she will have to get more decisive and ruthless. Losing Jace hardens her quite a lot.
@@hafsahassan394 Inside the episode watch,the actor of Otto said it himself.
Phenomenal acting. This scene felt so real and so immersive, just incredible.
I love how she sounds like her father when she yells Daemon at the end.
-her father died
-went into early labor and her child died
-her another elder child died
-got blamed for killing a child
-her husband left her after a haggle
-almost got killed in her bed
And after all this she's still holding together
Regarding the nature of each other I feel both are right. Daemon nature definitely had Viserys & others seeking to Deny him becoming a future King. Rhaenyra also gotta remember she not only begged him to be here but that they are also in a full on war.
this was so f**** amazin, the way she put him on his place... and oh my, i so love these two
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mom and dad are fighting 😭
Slamming on tables and throwing objects is Daemon's new form of communication
He escalates when she hits too close to the truth and he uses his own body to physically box her in. She hits the nail on the head and he ups the ante.
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She stands her ground, though, because she knows she's right. Rhaenyra flinches away from him, but I don't think it's because she fears harm or pain. She's no stranger to either at this point, after all.What she dreads is the feeling of betrayal and hurt she felt the last time Daemon laid hands on her. You can see the pain in her eyes because she'll never feel safe with him again after that. It's a horrible feeling when you can't trust someone you still love.
I was in awe watching this scene. I'm especially impressed by the emotion in Emma's voice. Replay this clip and listen only. You'll see what i mean.
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