10 DEADLIEST Air Show Disasters In History! (Explained)

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  • How did the 10 deadliest air show disasters in history happen? How many were the result of pilot mistakes and how many were due to other reasons? We'll look at a few crashes you might not have ever heard of as well as some of the most famous air show crashes in history.
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  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    The older brother of a massive bully I grew up with was at the Ramstein AFB when the crash happened there. He was in the Airforce and had stopped off to watch the airshow. He remembered the crash and rescuing several people out of harm's way, then as he was carrying a child out he suddenly woke up in a hospital bed. He'd been on fire the entire time and didn't even realize it. He was just so focused on getting people out that he didn't notice his clothes were on fire.
    He was a big guy and I can imagine the poor kids, scared and alone, and here comes a burning giant to save them.
    He got the highest award you can get in peace time, but his injuries forced him out of the military.
    His little brother was a massive asshole, but he was amazing. I was really shocked when I heard what had happened to him.

    • @Jens-Viper-Nobel
      @Jens-Viper-Nobel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I saw a guy with the same kind of action, albeit in a car accident. All of us present when it happened saw a VW beetle turn a corner and come to an abrupt stop, and the next second, huge flames erupted from the engine. Everybody in the car got out safe and was just standing there when a little girl suddenly said that Lisa was still in there. All of us turned pale. The car had flames coming out of the doors at that point.
      Then a 40ish man sprinted to the car, simply climped into the flames and searched for "Lisa." He came out shortly after with a pretty badly burned doll in his hand, and most of his clothes on fire. And he didn't scream in pain or anything. All he could think about was "Thank God. It's a doll. Not a girl." That's when just about all of us were on him like a ton of bricks with jackets and sweaters and whatever else we had to put out the flames in his clothes. And that is when he started screaming in pain. But he still could only think about that girl luckily not being in there. He survived and had to undergo several skin grafts as I understand it before he could resume life and work. But to this day, he is still the most selfless and brave man I have ever met or seen. Right up there with that friend of yours who performed so extraordinary and brave.

    • @antonr.788
      @antonr.788 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Jens-Viper-NobelWow. A really brave man. But on the other hand... all of this because a child made him believe there was an actual person still in the car.

    • @user-vo2xb9de2k
      @user-vo2xb9de2k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Frecci italian stunt team cheers einst

    • @raggamuffin2682
      @raggamuffin2682 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds like a hero not bully. Maybe ur brother was just a bad person who needed some bullying

    • @Nsmnsd197
      @Nsmnsd197 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      @@raggamuffin2682you need to learn how to read buddy 😂

  • @spiderzvow1
    @spiderzvow1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +547

    Andy Hill must have known a good lawyer or had connections in the court system, his negligence and ego killed people

    • @tristronic7789
      @tristronic7789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      A huge travesty of justice

    • @gmdhargreaves
      @gmdhargreaves 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Andy Hill in my family is a name of the devil, his family I have sympathy but he, he is the devil

    • @fionanatalieholden5965
      @fionanatalieholden5965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Disgusting, he survived but destroyed a classic aeroplane!😢
      I hope he's proud of himself!

    • @MonkPetite
      @MonkPetite 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Andy had no carrier any more .l don’t worry about him fooling around.

    • @donraptor6156
      @donraptor6156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perhaps this is a Hack Job on the pilot?

  • @rustyshackleford1842
    @rustyshackleford1842 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +308

    I’m definitely staying away from anything ice cream related if there’s an air show nearby

    • @breem8750
      @breem8750 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Avoid the airshow

    • @ellaella5537
      @ellaella5537 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly my thoughts.

    • @codyburns-so9hx
      @codyburns-so9hx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Right!

    • @neaituppi7306
      @neaituppi7306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      All that ice cream melted, just makes it worse. 🍨🍧🍦

    • @hootowl2112
      @hootowl2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If I was booking an airshow, rule number one is NO ICE CREAM!

  • @heysaekari
    @heysaekari หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    i like that he does not sensationalize or yell the entire video at me lol

  • @alwaysflying6540
    @alwaysflying6540 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    I have friends that attended that air race where the galloping ghost crashed. They were in the area where the plane made impact. Both of them said the sound before impact was horrific. It sounded like a missile hitting the pavement. Body parts and blood everywhere. Everyone was disoriented and shutting down from shock. I heard second hand as well that they had military helicopters on display and the pilot's immediately started them up and started flying all the injured to the nearest hospital. It was the quick actions of spectators, pilot's, airshow staff, emergency crews that saved lives that day. Rip to all the lives lost in this video

    • @BladeScraper
      @BladeScraper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fancy seeing you here :P

    • @alwaysflying6540
      @alwaysflying6540 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @BladeScraper Hey whats up man. Small internet lol

    • @LiamColonna-nf8gg
      @LiamColonna-nf8gg หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone got cut in half by the plane which haunted my friends mom who was there

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have read the accident report many times. I cannot believe the cause of the accident. And I cannot understand why the mechanics who worked on that airplane were not brought up on manslaughter charges. That was just total incompetence, they exhibited a total disregard for any standard of aircraft maintenance, not to mention making false statements on a federal form.

    • @alwaysflying6540
      @alwaysflying6540 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LiamColonna-nf8gg holy crap. I heard there were bits and pieces of people everywhere and on everyone. I'm most often a guy who jumps in to help without thinking too much. There is no doubt in my mind that in this situation, I would have locked right up

  • @williammrdeza9445
    @williammrdeza9445 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Each of these are horrific tragedies. Thank you for your commentary and analysis Hoover.

    • @edwardsmith1060
      @edwardsmith1060 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And some, probably a drunk driving incident.
      Why are all pilots revered as perfect human beings, but they sure do cras a lot.

  • @squibload58
    @squibload58 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I learned that it's best to watch airshows on TH-cam.

    • @rsinclair689
      @rsinclair689 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In an underground bunker :-)

    • @Heathcoatman
      @Heathcoatman หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The entertainment vs risk ratio doesnt seem remotely worth it at these airshows. It's like watching a target shooting contest, but the stands are behind the targets

    • @BrownDaddy007
      @BrownDaddy007 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Heathcoatman Risk doesn't factor into it when it comes to parading the tools of the military industrial complex, and it never will.

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know a guy at the local community center who told me he was at the Reno airshow/race in 2011. He said a metal fragment whizzed past his head when the plane hit the ground and disintegrated. There were no visible remains of the pilot and two of the spectators were unidentifiable. The plane engine was running full throttle when it hit and the momentum from the moving engine parts was transferred into the spray of metal debris that struck people hundreds of feet from the impact point. He said there were identifiable engine fragments on the ground almost 1/4 mile away.

  • @OfficalMrBlue
    @OfficalMrBlue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I was at that Toronto Air Show one and was a young kid. Lucky for us, this was the first year they decided to move the show away from crowds and decided to have everything flown over the water. RIP to those who passed that day.

  • @scootaboygazza8214
    @scootaboygazza8214 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I was at Shoreham, if i close my eyes i can still see it to this day. I was amazed that thousands of people all stood dead quiet as we watched the smoke and flames.

    • @win7sony
      @win7sony 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Two guys I went to school with died in it, I was out with my friends on Hollingbury hill and we saw the explosion.

  • @SSCape
    @SSCape 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Incredible footage and an excellent commentary. Thank you. RIP to the victims of these disasters.

  • @user-vf2rx1pj4c
    @user-vf2rx1pj4c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Regarding the Nimrod crash at Toronto in 1995, I would like to point out that the photo of the crew (and Army personnel) your displaying is that of Nimrod XV230 which crashed in Afghanistan in September 2006, through no fault of their own. The Cave-Haddon report exposed a long standing design issue, coupled with lack of due diligence on behalf of the relevant Engineering and Design Authorities, which resulted in a catastrophic in flight fire.

    • @mayfieldcourt
      @mayfieldcourt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Thank you, I came here to say this.

    • @Pocketrocket-pj1us
      @Pocketrocket-pj1us 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Thank you for the info. It would be only fair, that the hack Video creator made a personal thank to you and an apology to all involved.
      I fear this uploader is much more interested in the clicks, rather than the lives and families, who are affected by a crash.
      Getting the information correctly can affect many.
      Instead of arrows in his thumb nails, he should slow down and be sure that the info is correct.
      Cheers from Canada

    • @NB_NB_NB
      @NB_NB_NB หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He even says Toronto 1995 and the photo shows 2006. That's pretty lame 👎

  • @christopher-bj8de
    @christopher-bj8de หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I've learnt something from this video: Don't go to an airshow.

    • @dennisplatte7506
      @dennisplatte7506 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They are way too crowded----so you staying away gives more room for others that love air shows. I'm one of them.

    • @Ggnmgjhg
      @Ggnmgjhg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Especially in UK

    • @lakersfan4life235
      @lakersfan4life235 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I find them ridiculous tbh and I love Aviation so much but I agree.....or watch from 20 miles away at least

    • @analoguesine1691
      @analoguesine1691 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Everyone that died at the Shoreham airshow was on the A27 dual carrageway waiting at traffic lights. I was there, my elderly dad and I were at the north end of Shoreham airport and what we saw was truly horrific. We tried to help people before emergency services arrived but there was little we could do.

    • @markmilan8365
      @markmilan8365 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do not stay at home, it is provided is the most dangerous place.

  • @patrickoleary2862
    @patrickoleary2862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +210

    Thanks for the video. A little surprised not to see Bud Holland's infamous B-52 crash from 1994 included - I know the accident flight was only a practice flight for an upcoming airshow, but he is surely worth a mention every time as to how NOT to fly a plane. Personally think it would be well worth its own piece looking at his dangerous temperament + the associated failures in command that allowed Holland to kill himself along with three other unfortunates.

    • @stejer211
      @stejer211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      "10 DEADLIEST Air Show Disasters In History (Explained)"

    • @eriknervik9003
      @eriknervik9003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      If you read Andy Browns “warnings unheeded” it explains this in great detail, brown was an Air Force security policeman who stopped a mass shooter at Fairchild AFB days before the b-52 crash and he wrote a book about both incidents. His book is very well researched and it includes how Holland had been reckless for years and numerous commanders has wanted to remove him from flight duties

    • @rapidthrash1964
      @rapidthrash1964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree with this

    • @tomseim
      @tomseim 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The B-52 is a notably poor choice for an aerobatic aircraft as it lacks ailerons, using spoilers instead. Spoilers depend upon reducing the lift of one of the wings to roll the aircraft in that direction. Ailerons, OTOH, both reduce lift on one wing and increase lift on the other. Video of the accident shows the up-wing spoilers fully deployed, but the plane stopped responding as the wing was already stalled (not producing lift).
      th-cam.com/video/Lbcsfqqqe7Q/w-d-xo.html
      Holland was trying to make such an aggressive turn to avoid over-flying a restricted area (nuclear weapons storage facility). Poor flight planning resulted in this situation developing. Holland was a loose cannon who had multiple safety violations, but only received verbal reprimands.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash

    • @alexrebmann1253
      @alexrebmann1253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@rapidthrash1964 The video of crash is shown in flight training in all of the military branch .

  • @shrimpflea
    @shrimpflea 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I have heard of all these terrible accidents. In 1993 at the El Toro Air Show I witnessed the F-86 Sabre crash. I have not been to an airshow since.

    • @feedingravens
      @feedingravens 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do not dare as well, On my first airshow, Harald Strößenreuther performed an aerobatic show that was miles beyond all others.
      I was looking forward seeing him again next year. Shortly before the show he crashed while instructing.
      Then I was at an airshow, where (again) Mark Hannah demonstrated a P-51 Mustang better than any other of the displays,
      Great, next year ... He crashed before that in a HA-1112, a spanish license built Bf 109 with a Rolls-Royce Merlin engine.
      On another airshow someone came with a replicia of the Spirit of St. Louis. Disintegrated in the air some months later.
      An acquaintance took me up in a Slingsby T-28, an open-side-by-side british glider. Great experience, it was totally peaceful up there, no wind, no noise, you could hear the birds singing on the ground.
      Some months later he went to a fly-in in eastern Europe, and there he died of a burst appendix.

      I am not superstitious, and people die when flying, but in the meantime I gave up. I do not want to risk other people's lives anymore.

    • @LottiDotti76
      @LottiDotti76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was at the El Toro show too. Crazy stuff!

  • @MissV301
    @MissV301 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The Nimrod had been at an airshow here in my city the week before. I met and chatted with crew, even bought a few patches etc. When I heard that they had crashed and all the crew were killed, I cried. 😢

  • @ivanpennell7664
    @ivanpennell7664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    My old roommate was on the Nimrod. I am pretty sure that the newspaper picture you have included in the video is actually the crew of the Nimrod that went down in Afghanistan. There was a similar shot the day after the Canadian crash.
    Blue skies Bernie.

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I’m very sorry for your loss. You are right though regarding the image. This was a minor oversight and I apologize for the mistake.

    • @ivanpennell7664
      @ivanpennell7664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @pilot-debrief It was a long time ago, but the crash does still haunt me. Somewhere, there is a film made by someone in Canada who had been following the crew, which included a video of them boarding the aircraft. To see him alive as I remembered him was a real jolt.
      Bernie and I shared a room at RAF Brawdy for about 18 months, and we got along pretty well. Before going Aircrew, he was a flight simulation engineer.
      Whenever I see the crash, I hear his voice clearly in my mind. The only real comfort is that they would not have felt a thing, though they would have known it was coming.
      I witnessed the same display routine at Fairford a short time earlier, and the display looked a bit dodgy to several of us working there. We all held our breath but figured they must know what they're doing. Too many crews away from home try to make their displays a bit punchy to impress other crews.
      Still, great video, keep them coming.
      Much more informative than the usual offerings on here.

    • @tommo9757
      @tommo9757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah, the picture was the Afghan crash crew. I used to sub-aqua dive with Gary "Q" Quilliam (top row, third from right) God bless you mate. Til we buddy up again...

  • @johnathansaegal3156
    @johnathansaegal3156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The Reno Air Show (held at Stead Airfield) happened 8 miles from my home. We live on a mountain just northeast of the airfield and all the planes flew over this mountain fairly close to where our home is located. Since our house is 1,600 feet above the Stead Airfield, this meant those planes all flew pretty low from my family's perspective.
    The fireball from this crash seemed to drown out the entire spectator stand. From our view, it looked much worse than it actually was - not to make light of those who became victims - but from our angle it looked like all the grandstands were wiped out. Pretty harrowing day.
    What still haunts me is this was the fourth airplane crash I had directly witnessed in my life, and the second crash at an air show.
    The first crash I witnessed was at the (now decommissioned) Hamilton Naval Air Force Base (Marin County, CA). The air show was for military dependents and service members' and not open to the public. The crash involved a Japanese "Zero" A6M that was simulating a dogfight with a wing of US Navy fighters. Behind our house on base was a small hill. Atop that hill was an old WWII air raid siren tower. During the dogfight, the Zero flew too low over the hill and smashed into the wooden siren tower. The plane burst into flames not 200 yards from our rear 2nd floor deck where my family and friends were watching the performance... I was around 6 years old.
    The second crash was in San Diego. My mom and I had dropped Dad off at his ship as it was getting ready for a Westpac deployment. That was the 1978 PSA crash that was hit by a Cessna and the airliner crashed a few blocks in front of my mom's car as we were stopped at a red light. I was ten when this happened.
    The third was in El Cajon, CA (San Diego County). I was driving home from work when I saw an F-14 flying toward the Gillespie Airfield. I thought it odd considering that airfield is a small field only suitable for light aircraft and not military jets. The F-14 began to roll, the pilots ejected and the plane crashed into a hangar. I was 20 at the time.
    The last crash was the Reno Airshow crash as documented in this video.
    I stopped looking up toward planes since then. I certainly get chills when I think of all the random places I have been when watching planes fall from the sky.

    • @XRP747E
      @XRP747E 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Astonishing!

    • @freed6343
      @freed6343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      A close friend and I had attended the Reno Airshow for 3 years in a row; "07, '08 & '09. We were disappointed to pass up the 2010 airshow because of work obligations (we both worked together). We had always attended the full 4 days and purchased "Chairman's Club" tickets which allowed us "free" food and drink and special seating outside the club tent beyond turn 4 which is where most of the debris, death and injury occurred in this mishap. I don't remember why we decided not to attend the air show in 2011, but I'm quite glad we didn't; we would have most likely been sitting right in the danger zone. We have never gone back to the airshow since. The 3 years we did attend, I don't recall any accidents' just a lot of fun and excitement for which I am happy to commit to memory and the photographs we took.

    • @johnathansaegal3156
      @johnathansaegal3156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@freed6343 Fate! Please never forget to count your blessings.

    • @ac.7724
      @ac.7724 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like my nightmares where if I see a plane it always crashes. I can't imagine how horrible that would be in real life, especially the PSA crash 😢

    • @chuckmarch5552
      @chuckmarch5552 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow what a life youve lived. God has been looking out for you your whole life. He must have great things in mind for you.

  • @pauledunn
    @pauledunn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I appreciate you mentioning which disasters were not caused by pilot error.

    • @juangarcia-kq8zp
      @juangarcia-kq8zp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes he did a good job of explaining everything in a way which could be understood.

  • @brucemiller8109
    @brucemiller8109 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I watched Bob Hover at the Lincoln airshow in 1972, flew the mustang and a Rockwell twin. Bob flew the pants off that twin, top of a large loop shutdown both engines, did a high speed pass over the runway at about 300 feet, then pulled into a loop at the runway end landing with both engines off. He was simply a amazing guy.

    • @bobnone5406
      @bobnone5406 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I saw him too

    • @alanartwww
      @alanartwww 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I saw that at Reno and Mojave.

    • @markwallis7199
      @markwallis7199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So was Bob a helicopter pilot?

    • @brucemiller8109
      @brucemiller8109 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he had ratings in fixed and rotary wing, what a stupid question.@@markwallis7199

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very well done on these, well reported and described. Thank you.
    Very sad days for so many in the air show disasters and RIP to the dear souls that perished.

  • @stephenchandler1267
    @stephenchandler1267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    I watched the Frecce Tricolori display at the 1986 International Air Tattoo here in the UK. When they performed this manoeuvre with the singleton heading straight at me I couldn't believe it was allowed, and I instinctively threw myself to the ground, much to the bemusement of spectators around me. When I saw the Ramstein footage for the first time it was like having a premonition tragically realised.

    • @aviatortrucker6285
      @aviatortrucker6285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I was there at Ramstein from 1985 through 1987. I always filmed at show center. I had one of them “Reggie Vision” camcorders with the little VCR on a strap! I rotated back to the states in early 1988 so I never saw that show with the accident. I may have been a casualty if I went that year. Karma was in my favor that time.

    • @rhysbrown8259
      @rhysbrown8259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Man I’m the same way I don’t dive too the ground but I have to turn my back if it happens don’t let me see when I go kinda mentality

    • @elvulch2710
      @elvulch2710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I was at the Ramstein air show when it happened. I received 3rd degree burns on my right arm. I’m actually in one of the still photos in this video.

    • @dionst.michael1482
      @dionst.michael1482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it wasn't

    • @dionst.michael1482
      @dionst.michael1482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aviatortrucker6285sure pal 😂

  • @kevinc.8869
    @kevinc.8869 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's old pilots and bold pilots but there's no old bold pilots.

  • @djchopperd
    @djchopperd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The Nimrod almost crashed in Shearwater, NS the week before. He went into a sharp bank and the plane literally slipped sideway down. From my vantage point, i would guess he loss at least 100ft altitude. I commented to my buddy that he had almost lost the aircraft. Unfortunately, I was not surprised to hear about the crash in Toronto. It was a sad event as we had met all the crew and toured the aircraft at the Shearwater airshow.

  • @still_guns
    @still_guns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I was actually at the Shoreham Airshow when WV372 went down. I've only been to one airshow since, and I was practically wetting myself every time a plane went even marginally close to the ground.

    • @joeds3775
      @joeds3775 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grow up

    • @danielderias4773
      @danielderias4773 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@joeds3775most average Internet troll

  • @marks1638
    @marks1638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Several Air Force personnel that I knew during my time in the service (and later as a Contractor) were at the Ramstein Air Show that day. One guy was working the air show while his wife and one of his kids were watching the air show. His family was close enough to the crash that the wife sustained minor burns and his daughter had some cuts from a piece of metal that hit her on the legs. The others were more fortunate and escaped without injuries being in another section away from the crash site. One of those NCO's (and his family) who witnessed that Ramstein incident was unfortunate to experience a similar incident several years later in 1994, while he was helping to shut down the B-52 Air Wing at Fairchild AFB in Washington. He witnessed the crash of the infamous "Czar 52" B-52 being flown by a known high-risk flier (Lt Col Bud Holland) that killed everyone on board and almost hit the Weapons Storage Area as well as the Control Tower. To compound a bad week at Fairchild, earlier that week his wife was working at the Base Hospital (she was a volunteer) when a gunman shot the several people in the same building before, he was finally stopped by a Security Policeman (who made an incredible 75-yard head shot with a Beretta handgun). She wasn't hurt, but between that incident, the B-52 crash, and Ramstein Air Show, these tragedies convinced them it was time for him to retire from the Air Force.

    • @burtonedwards2120
      @burtonedwards2120 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was in the Army stationed at Pirmasans, about an hour from Ramstein AB, at that time. One of our soldiers wife was at the air show and she was killed.

    • @jakobquick6875
      @jakobquick6875 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d hope thtd wake up the self preservation attitude to run somewhere other. How many huge hints u need? 😅red flags everywhere, time 2 go bye

    • @hubriswonk
      @hubriswonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am sure that was a Beretta M9A that he used to make that headshot! Love that pistol!

  • @wingmanjim6
    @wingmanjim6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    As always, a concise examination of events, presented so an average, non aviator can understand yet with enough detail that those more aviation oriented can gain a better understanding. Well done, sir !

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @jaws848
      @jaws848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pilot-debriefthey guy who crashed at the Shoreham show also displayed at the Bray airshow in ireland only about 2 weeks earlier which i attended and i thought he was reckless then aswell

    • @jaws848
      @jaws848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pilot-debriefthe tragic thing about Ramstien is if pony ten (after realising he messed up) had continued on the trajectory he was on and NOT pulled up to correct his mistake he would have fllown under the 2 formations safley

  • @dougdesrosiers4571
    @dougdesrosiers4571 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have heard of some of these accidents but not all. It's nice to have the reasons explained. Now I understand. Thanks.

  • @theavenger3363
    @theavenger3363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Excellent debrief as usual .. Thank you Hoover ..

  • @desertdenizen6428
    @desertdenizen6428 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I was at work about 2 miles from the Farrells Ice Cream Parlor disaster (The F86 crash). I was a recently licensed PPL and would have been at the airshow if not
    working. I saw the black smoke from the crash and was horrified at what must have happened. The aviation community was stunned at the magnitude
    of the disaster. The pilot didn't know what he didn't know until it's too late.

    • @Felix-ix7ic
      @Felix-ix7ic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you know if that pilot ever faced justice? I can't find any info online.

    • @sayonfoxx8862
      @sayonfoxx8862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can’t believe he survived

    • @ethanmaxwell2235
      @ethanmaxwell2235 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Felix-ix7icim also wondering this

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I was at the Toronto Air Show the day the Nimrod crashed. It stunned the crowd. I too was stunned and it remains the only plane crash I have ever witnessed personally - and that was one too many.

  • @donnyb6888
    @donnyb6888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    you look like steveos brother that didnt do drugs

    • @mixup7815
      @mixup7815 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Funny as f##k

    • @Potatocarguy
      @Potatocarguy หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can’t unsee this now lolol

    • @spoolindsm119
      @spoolindsm119 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's crazy how much he really does resemble steveo

  • @mattwingfield7389
    @mattwingfield7389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    My dad worked at Kaiserslautern Army Base with US Army and he was at the Rammstein show. Due to what he saw during the crash, he has never been to an airshow since. So sad

    • @carolynheimpel2065
      @carolynheimpel2065 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That makes me sad for him on many levels but glad he wasn’t one of the casualties ❤

    • @nathanielalgernon975
      @nathanielalgernon975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they should stop those shows, too dangerous

    • @nurderbvbabernurderbvb
      @nurderbvbabernurderbvb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nathanielalgernon975 Since the lost of an starfighter formation in 1962 in Nörvenich, with 4 dead pilots, all demo teams has been stopped by the german air force. However, the german navy had an F104 demo team, but only with low risk, normal flight shows.

  • @stracepipe
    @stracepipe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The astonishing thing about the Farnborough air crash was that, after the dead and injured had been taken away, the air show carried on as if nothing had happened. Different times.

    • @jefferyyounce5372
      @jefferyyounce5372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The show must go on!

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      WW2 spirit.
      Now there would be wails of horror
      on damaged nail polish
      on men ....
      /

    • @melvynjollysmith4997
      @melvynjollysmith4997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were made of tough stuff. How many had counselling after the wars?😅

  • @49kittypretty1
    @49kittypretty1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your videos are excellent and you are well spoken and it’s so nice to hear properly pronounced and grammatically correct english!

  • @ghazisadoun7855
    @ghazisadoun7855 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I was one of the Jordanian Team members during the Ostend Airshow crash in 1997. Omar started his sequence from a steep dive going into a rolling loop parallel with the display line after which he transitioned to an outside rolling circle - rolling left but turning right towards the crowd. The
    x-wind was high pushing Omar towards the crowds. during the rolling circle. after 270 deg of turn Omar was on top of the crowds (100 metres inside the prohibited crowd line) when he transitioned from a rolling circle while inverted into a tumble (Flip-flop) manoeuvre at less than 300 feet when he should have been at least 800 feet if he were to recover by 300! He & the poor spectators were doomed the moment he executed the tumble at less than 300 feet while on top of the crowd. He was most likely unaware of his situation due to his strong desire to impress & win an unofficial & illegal competition in an official Airshow setting. Patrick Steen the Display Director who was supposed to be supervising flight safety from the Tower never gave the “Termination” call which should have been called on display frequency at least 60 seconds before the tumble when Omar had clearly crossed inside the minimum display line of 150 metres from the crowds!
    It was a terribly sad & tragic day for All who were present. What was supposed to be a day of pleasure & happiness turned into a nightmare for ALL. 🥲

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      One British man
      would like to say
      that I see Jordan as a shining light in The Middle East,
      and I honour Jordan's strong links to Britain's armed forces.
      With all the focus on Arabs now known as "Palestinians",
      most people are unaware
      that within one year
      of the start of the British Mandate of Palestine,
      Britain created the Arab country of Transjordan,
      with it's monarchy,
      and that Jordanians
      have made a success of both country and monarchy.
      Quite an achievement,
      since Jordan is surrounded by turbulent events!
      Most also do not know
      that in 1970 and 1971,
      Jordan had a serious internal war with Palestinians,
      who were usurping Jordan's authority.
      I am also aware of the greening of the desert,
      led by Queen Rania,
      and hope that the whole Middle East
      can learn from each other's achievements,
      particularly in the better use of water.
      Looking to the future,
      the Middle East faces great challenges,
      and I feel sure that Jordan will play it's part
      in creating a better future for all.
      /

  • @1teamski
    @1teamski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Ironically, I saw the Frecce Tricolori at the 1997 RAF Mildenhall airshow in their first show since the Ramstein accident outside Italy, in addition to watching the Jordanians that that would have their accident in the very next airshow, Belgium. By the way, the Frecci Tricolori was, by far, the best aerobatics team of the seven (!) that displayed that weekend.

    • @nigelprice7953
      @nigelprice7953 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At about that time (I don't remember where) I saw the Frecce Tricolori display their aircraft and it was the best display I had seen. They were highly impressive.

  • @bertg.6056
    @bertg.6056 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    An excellent presentation, Hoover. Thanks so much !

  • @jakegrass8861
    @jakegrass8861 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am station at ramstein and work in the passenger terminal, there’s a couple articles posted around the terminal talking about the incident and something’s you might not know is that the only ambulance for the event was destroyed by one of the aircraft’s that crashed. Because of that they called for german ambulances but they got stuck at the main gate trying to get on the base which ended up costing lives.

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I noticed, he didnt mention that. Its well known here in Europe, that the German ambulances and medical personnel were significantly delayed, coz the American guards kept refusing to let them in.
      Another thing, that cost lives, was the Americans just chucking ppl untreated on various trucks, pickups etc and driving to hospitals, some as much as 45 min away, while the German protocol was to assess and do initial treatment b4 taking them to the hospital. It also made it quite hard to get the number of dead and wounded and identify them, as I recall, that took several days, coz the Americans didnt even have any idea, how many they had taken from the airfield and to which hospitals. Unfortunately, several ppl died due to the delay in treatment, both through the Germans being denied access for an extended lengths of time and through being thrown on random vehicles completely untreated and taken on long drives.

    • @ac.7724
      @ac.7724 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dfuher968don't like Americans much, do you?

  • @erichluepke855
    @erichluepke855 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In 2008 or so, I saw the aftermath of the Ukrainian accident on TH-cam. I was only 13. It was absolutely horrific, bodies were torn apart and strewn everywhere. I am happy that TH-cam changed their policy since then because that video was very traumatizing.

  • @M1903a4
    @M1903a4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Sacramento crash was a perfect example of a very dangerous, but well known, handling issue with the F-86 and it's Canadian cousins. Many USAF pilots crashed in training due to the tendency of the F-86 to over rotate on takeoff if rotation was initiated early. If the pilot had received any transition training he would have known better.

    • @pilot3016
      @pilot3016 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes.. he attempted two rotations before he realized he should have aborted it earlier.

  • @bobbycv64
    @bobbycv64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    EXCELLENT AND PROFESSIONAL - Thank you Sir

  • @sarge420
    @sarge420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hoover, as a retired MSgt USAF (supply/maint) your knowledge and explanation is excellent. We had a unit pilot eject from his A-7 (wedding) from NV to PA into a hotel front door.

    • @markforster6457
      @markforster6457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I don't understand anything after the word "eject". Please explain. Thank you.

  • @jasend8727
    @jasend8727 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My dorm neighbor in the USAF at Tyndall, was at the Ramstein disaster. Bob would always leave for the weekend, when we had an air show on the base.

  • @MisterIvyMike
    @MisterIvyMike 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    11:05 that is almost the view that I had on that accident at that day, august 28, 1988... ☹️
    Will never forget the sound of the sirens, the steady sound of the arriving and departing rescue helicopters and the chaos around us...

  • @buzhopper
    @buzhopper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My dad worked for the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) as an accident investigator. He ended up being the one that studied the flight reorder data from accidents. This was while the data was being recorded on metal tape. The CAB was actually changed into the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and not into the FAA. Just thought I would share this.

    • @TxRunner71
      @TxRunner71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The CAB existed until 1985 when it was finally dismantled following the deregulation of commercial airlines in 1978. Many of the air traffic control and air safety responsibilities of the CAB were transferred to the FAA when it was created in 1958. The accident investigation responsibilities of the FAA were then transferred to the NTSB when it was created in 1967, and it became fully independent in 1975. The CAB, FAA, and NTSB were all separate agencies from 1967 to 1978.

  • @CryptoBern1
    @CryptoBern1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the video, always look forward to your new uploads. Such tragic events.

  • @dmccollom1969
    @dmccollom1969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I was supposed to go to Rammstein but I got a sore throat. The friends I went with were about as close to the accident as you could get without getting injured.

    • @ideal982
      @ideal982 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this reminds me of the seth mcfarlane story, where I believe he was late for his flight and missed it, this plane crashed into the twin towers

  • @ziggerwebdesign1704
    @ziggerwebdesign1704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    My grandma lived in Farnborough and witnessed John Derry's crash. Her vivid recollection was seeing a decapitated body remain upright for several seconds before collapsing to the ground. A horrific accident.

    • @PedroConejo1939
      @PedroConejo1939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My uncle was there and witnessed the crash too. He recently had us show him the stuff on YT and the whole thing came flooding back to him.

    • @dionst.michael1482
      @dionst.michael1482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah, that's just her meds messing with her mind

    • @dionst.michael1482
      @dionst.michael1482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PedroConejo1939sure pal, sure 😂

    • @tectoramia-sz1lu
      @tectoramia-sz1lu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A builder I used to work for was an RAF fireman at Farnborough at the time of this crash. A nasty job for them clearing up the various bits and pieces.

    • @markforster6457
      @markforster6457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In WW2, during an attack on an American carrier, two crewmen were running to battle stations, when one crewman was beheaded by flying debris. Witnesses say his headless body took four more running steps before it collapsed.

  • @socaliguy81
    @socaliguy81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I ever run an ice cream business, it won't be near an airport.

    • @juanacevedo9782
      @juanacevedo9782 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It was a refrigeration trailer, we called reffers when I was at Ramstein. I never heard what was stored in the trailer. The plane was leaning against the trailer and stayed there for few days during the investigation Ihe refueled UH 60s evacuating casualties to Lansthul Army hospital, I refueled some of the Aerimacchi 339 that flew that day.

  • @mikeburger5761
    @mikeburger5761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In my youth 5 crewmembers and 39 parachutist from US, France, Germany, England and Canada lost their lives at an airshow by a Chinook helicopter crash in 1982 in Mannheim, Germany. One rotorblade disintegrated after a few minutes from start and caused the crash. Please research. This airshow-accident is not so well known and never list anywhere though it was horrible.

  • @Roybwatchin
    @Roybwatchin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I live near Wichita, KS and I remember growing up in the early 70's people were always talking about a KC135 Tanker that had crashed in a local neighborhood in Wichita back in 1965. McConnel Air Force Base is in Wichita and is a tanker plane hub. The plane had like 30K gallons of aviation fuel and somehow lost control and crashed, killing all the crew members and several people (25 - 30) on the ground. I've driven by the crash site in later years and there's some type of small park there. I've also heard that after that crash, the tankers that fly in and out of McConnel now carry a nonflammable liquid when doing test flights.

  • @brianmackenzie5692
    @brianmackenzie5692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My father, his brother and their parents were at the Farnborough Air Show in 1952 and were in the crowd between the two impact points (the majority of injuries occurred behind them). Only found out when going through my fathers effects and his description of the accident was on a scrap of paper.

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      An historic document indeed!
      Life is a tenuous thread
      that is so easily severed,
      yet he survived,
      and you have life.
      Your ancestors and mine
      were close neighbours,
      where many lives were lost in turbulent times,
      as I am reseaching at the moment.
      /

  • @ibluap
    @ibluap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    arnborough accident from 1952 brings back on my mind to several old Pathé movies of what used to be SBAC (Society of British Aircraft Constructors) in late '40s and early '50s. It seems that there was an immense pressure on those Test Pilots performing in front of potential purchasers of their novelties placed on the VIP's balcony.
    New jet aircraft flew right over spectators at incredibly low altitudes performing highly demanding manouvers, on cutting edges of their flight envelopments.
    I remember seeing a prototype of the Canberra making a very tight turn far lower than a hundred feet right over the camera and the observers and no-one said anything.
    In other videos I saw a prototype of the Handley Page Victor landing meters away from reporters with their cameras and children playing, without any visible security guard or protection.
    The accident you mention was of the DeHavilland DH 110; a novel aircraft competing with Glosters for a RAF requeriment for a Night/All-Weather fighter, competition later won by the Gloster GA.5, lately known as The Javelin. The DH.110 later gave birth to the embarked naval fighter named the Sea Vixen.
    The accident ocurred when the second prototypem an elegantly black painted bird, experienced engine failures in early morning, forcing John Derry and Tony Richards, De Havviland's crew, to fly back to Hatfield, North of London, on the company's Dragon Rapide, to bring the only other existing DH.110, the all-silver first prototype.
    That plane wasn't scheduled to fly that day and De Havilland administration had to improvise.
    During part of earlier flights they were testing the application of a large wing fence right on mid span in both wings to avoid early airflow separation from wing upper surface.
    Those fences were retired lately to continue testing without them. In those later flights it wasn't thought to make hard-G manouvers. Sadly those fences (also applied to the second black prototype), conferred strenght to wing integrity as last days flights demonstrated.
    No-one thought in that detail. So, when John Derry pulled a very tight turn to make a second low fast subsonic pass over Farnborough after the first supersonic one, the hich-G load on the wings were too much and both outer wings broke more or less at the same moment desintegrating the plane in the air. The cockpits with Derry and Richards made a dive right in front of people and crashed just meters away from the rope that held people from flight operations terrain. Except for both pilots who died there, no-one was injured by the cockpits and nose fall.
    The rear fuselage, containing the inner segments of the wings, both tail booms and both vertical fins plus the stabilizator and the rear part of the fuselage fell performing a slow plain spin over a solitary portion of the field But sadly both Avon engines detached from the rear fuselage and were released like a pair of bombs that made a parabollic fall towards a small hill where large numbers of nosy people gathered to see the airshow from right outsider the airfield. One of the engines with its blades still running anf fiery hot, fell on the crowd killing twenty-nine people and injuring about sixty. Most of the people were not executives from aircraft companies or representatives of foreign governments. That hill was chosen by families to see the show and that was the tragic end of the DH.110 show.
    However (which is unthinkable today), Hawkers test pilot who had to fly after DeHavilland, to show the second Hawker P.1067, prototype of the Hawker Hunter, had to postpone his flight... just about an hour, to let ambulances and emergency teams to do their job. After that, show had to go on and he was cleared to take off and continue the Airshow. It is unbelievable today. Things have changed a lot and, I believe, for the better.

    • @geoffreymawdsley8102
      @geoffreymawdsley8102 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P😊😊😊

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you look at the catalogue of crashes in WW2,
      I guess there was a "gung ho! attitude
      that persisted for many years.
      Your post
      is probably the best description of the DH 110 crash
      I have ever read!
      Thank you!
      /

  • @thatmombielife
    @thatmombielife 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We weren’t born with wings. But we earn them. Prayers to everyone involved in all these accidents. 😢

  • @HausFit
    @HausFit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this longer video format. I was glued to the screen!!

  • @seanmchugh3476
    @seanmchugh3476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In my time working at an airbase, there were two fatal air-show accidents. The first occurred during an air show and the second was while practicing for one.

  • @Nonoatfirst
    @Nonoatfirst 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was at the Paris Airshow that day & watched incredulous as the Tu-144 crashed. I didn't see the Mirage but you can imagine how a desperate manoeuvre to avoid hitting it could have caused the break-up.
    Ten years later I saw the Italian aerobatic team perform just above the point where Lake Geneva narrows into the Rhone river - way too small an area to prevent spectators being hit in the event of an accident. A stunning performance but man, risky.

    • @kolbola
      @kolbola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is the Mirage on the 8mm footage on TH-cam. Right after the crash it is apperaed down from the cloud layer.

  • @CrashTestPilot
    @CrashTestPilot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Attended a lunch with that Nimrod crew the Friday before the crash. Good bunch of guys. Took a while to process watching them hit the water before the weekend was out.

  • @missiontovenus123
    @missiontovenus123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A terrific, informative video. The rapid pace, with no stretching of the dialogue, was a pleasurable viewing. You know your material very well, and this is obvious with your presentation. Thank you, I subscribed, and look forward to more great clips. That was a complete video and rates a 10/10. 👍✔️✅💰

  • @jonathanland2218
    @jonathanland2218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Nimrod in the run up to the Nimrod MR2 crash was a very different Mark. It’s a Nimrod R1 of 51 Sqn. RAF. No MAD boom is visible and it has significantly more antennas visible. This is a SIGINT/ELINT aircraft - not Maritime Reconnaissance.

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting that the last report explained the rules of that airshow, which over time had the rules relaxed, with aircraft flying over the crowd from behind and from the front and got down to 150’ or less. In recent years, due to accidents, it’s gone back to the original 1951 rules.

  • @ChrisZwolinski
    @ChrisZwolinski หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Aunt and Uncle were at the Farnborough air show. My mother told me when they came home they were still in shock and covered in other people's blood. They never spoke about it with me (way to young), but my uncle who was one of the most enthusiastic aviation nuts I've known, and never flew on any kind of plane for over 40 years.

  • @sallysloman1742
    @sallysloman1742 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots"

  • @mustangnawt1
    @mustangnawt1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great job getting these compilations. I’m so sorry for everyone who paid the ultimate price just to show or watch what an aircraft is capable of:(

  • @DH-ft8zu
    @DH-ft8zu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My dad was in the US army and stationed at Ramstein at the time, and unfortunately he was part of the “cleanup crew” and it kind of f*cked him up for the rest of his life. Incredibly tragic, rip to all lives lost in any accident.

    • @M1903a4
      @M1903a4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can understand that. I saw a man ride a bicycle into the running propeller of a C-124 65 years ago. Some things can never be unseen.

  • @RogerThat1986
    @RogerThat1986 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Pilot Debrief - I was a little kid when the crash into the Ice Cream shop in Sacramento happened. My family was supposed to be there to meet my Grandma for her birthday. My dad had our boat in tow, and there wasn't anywhere to park with the boat, so we went somewhere else. I was a little kid

  • @beth1966
    @beth1966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks….your info was very helpful.

  • @drau331
    @drau331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I was 1988 in the German Army and one of those paramedics who rushed to the Ramstein-Airfield after that incident. It was a total chaos. Things happened which even a movie-regisseur couldnt imagine. F.e. there was a group of victims who where layed down in a normal bus of the USAF. The driver was told to reach the hospital asap. He needed about two hours than he asked German locals for help to find his destination. Or these lot of ppl, who had nearly no skin any more, but felt nothing, just looking on us. Those pictures I'll never forget.
    There is just one thing I want to mention: Don't use these machines for entertainment. I know esp. in the U.S. they are used in every situation, f.e. in NFL games and so on. but if you would have seen what I saw, you would decide to say "no" to that.
    And the story of the pilot who caused this was a bit more: As I was told, he was one of the pilots who forced down the plane with the hostage-takers of the "Achille Lauro" - case of 1985. So I was told that the fact that he climbed too high was in truth the result of a manipulation of his machine, carried out by the Libyan secret service just before that day.
    So, it is all a bit dusty, but the story is a bit bigger than "just" a crash.

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Conspiracy nonsense.
      The Achille Lauro hijackers aircraft was forced to land by American pilots in USN Grumman F-14s. The Ramstein airshow aircraft were Italian pilots in Italian AF Aermacchi MB-339s.
      There's not a shred of evidence to support your nonsense.
      There's nothing more to it, as it's all in your head.
      Nor do I believe a word of the rest you are saying.

    • @jakegrass8861
      @jakegrass8861 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I work at the passenger terminal on base. Did you and the other medical responders have trouble getting onto the base as everything was happening?

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please explain what you mean by "manipulation of his machine". Thanks.

    • @drau331
      @drau331 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sjb3460 It became known at the time - and quickly dropped again at the bottom of the table - that the machine's altimeter had been manipulated so that it showed an altitude that was too low.
      As a result, the plane flew too high - which triggered the disaster.

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drau331 thanks for the information

  • @caz1100
    @caz1100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was at the Shoreham air show and if I remember correctly the Hawker Hunter flew along the runway prior to starting the loop. He climbed then inverted while rounding the top of the loop before coming back down. He seemed to not be able to pull up soon enough… I don’t know if it was due to insufficient airspeed over the control surfaces that he was unable to pull out of the dive. I couldn’t believe what I was watching at first but then after a few seconds I realised he’d crashed on the road and was totally stunned as were all the other spectators. I didn’t attend every year as I live in the area and regularly saw the planes flying over my house but the last 2 shows I went to there were crashes - this and a WW2 Hawker Hurricane previously when the plane malfunctioned and the brave pilot was able to guide it to an area on a hill away from the airport where it nose dived into the ground. I still feel sad for the 12 men who lost their lives in both of these incidents. My parents had also traveled from their home in Kent for both shows, unfortunate they both ended with sad memories for them

    • @melvynjollysmith4997
      @melvynjollysmith4997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He flew in line with the main road so the risk of crashing on the road were maximised.

  • @thomasmount7388
    @thomasmount7388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DIAMOND video content! Must watch. I like the simple, to the point, commentary as it is done at a good speed and always it is aiming to answer 'why'.

  • @Mikdeelow
    @Mikdeelow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video sir!
    Horrific collection that bears a rewatch.

  • @hunter1961100
    @hunter1961100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was at the airshow in Sacramento I was in fourth grade. We were supposed to go to Farrell‘s ice cream parlor, but we wanted to stay and watch the jet takeoff as it was the only military plane there I was with another family and when my mom heard the news, she didn’t know if we were at the parlor or not till we got home, remember to this day the jet going down the runway with the front landing gear off the ground, disappearing behind the hanger and then seeing the fire ball at the end of the runway

  • @Ieo9017
    @Ieo9017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know, I think I’m going to do some research into how many airshows there are vs number of accidents…..seems like a pretty common thing for such a safety oriented field

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A well presented video, thank you. Air displays have certainly changed since I was a kid in the 70s; maybe not quite as exciting, but by necessity, a whole lot safer for the spectators and general public.

  • @davidellis7081
    @davidellis7081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Pop used to take the family to watch airshows at Executive Field in Fort Lauderdale back in the 1960s and 70s. They were spectacular example of aviation skill and awesome aircraft. Those were the days, the sights, the sounds, even the smells!

  • @Elizabeth-tg7jo
    @Elizabeth-tg7jo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think YT recommended your channel b/c my 12 yr old mini pig is named Oliver Hoover Boeing. Hoover because he will vacuum/eat anything in range in milliseconds. Great content. I live in Anchorage.

    • @ak2nda695
      @ak2nda695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's pretty funny!!
      I live in Fairbanks.

  • @shannoncarlson6960
    @shannoncarlson6960 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have huge respect for pilots but despise airshows. I remember my parents taking me to one as a child and even then I hated it. It felt completely unsafe, and I just prayed the entire time that the pilots didn't crash. I didn't even want to look as the planes flew by. I was probably about 10 years old but I felt sick the entire time. Too nerve-wracking for me, but as I said, I respect pilots a lot.

    • @petepeterson5337
      @petepeterson5337 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree! I don't even like tight flight formations, much less aerobatics that require extraordinary skill to not die. There are plenty of completely safe and interesting flight maneuvers pilots could do at airshows (High speed pass, reasonable slow flight at a safe distance etc) that involve modest skill and nor real risk to the plane or anyone else.
      My friends don't want to hear it, but the Reno air races are insane to me. Less bad, but also dislikeable are high speed boat races; they are extremely dangerous demonstrations of who has the biggest checkbook.

  • @We_Seek_Truth
    @We_Seek_Truth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks for such great explanations!!

  • @DigbyOdel-et3xx
    @DigbyOdel-et3xx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting video thanks.
    I have a story about air show that thankfully had no fatalities but was a spectacular incident.
    It was August 12 1973. At the Abbotsford international airshow. A demonstration of 4 Canadian CF -101B Voodoos based at the time at CFB Comox, B.C. 409 sqd. Nighthawks were doing their very entertaining display. The F-101B Voodoo is such an elegant aircraft.
    Anyways the display ends with each jet flying down the showline individually, then doing a max. after burner climb out to about 20,000 ft. Well on this day CF-101B number 101019 pulled up and climb up when at or near the top of its climb the aircraft explodes and disintegrates. Thankfully both of the crew ejected safely though I recall they did suffer burns.
    I was just a kid. It was a beautiful clear August day. At first I recall saying ," Wow cool." But seconds later I see the smoke and parts falling along with both parachutes. I then knew that something went wrong.
    The bulk of the plane's parts fell thankfully safely in a corn field near the airport. Again thankfully nobody died.
    I still remember it 50 years later like it happened yesterday. 🤔

  • @localcrew
    @localcrew 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No room for errors at an air show.

  • @douglasburnside
    @douglasburnside 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been to one airshow in my life, back in the 1960's I think. I was nervous about how near the aircraft flew to the spectators, and concerned about how close the planes flew to each other in high speed group maneuvers, enough so that I never attended another and have no plans ever to do so.

    • @finished6267
      @finished6267 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why watch people showing off demonic weapons? they brainwashed us as children to see soldiers and war as heroic, manly, and exciting. I'm glad that the hottest war now is one for hearts and minds. We are evolving as a species. war is mostly unnecessary but it's big business. I really do believe we will move past it. I grew up on USAF bases so I may be biased🤣

  • @keithkornatoski9162
    @keithkornatoski9162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank You ... late 50's at an Edwards AFB Airshow I was very young but can recall a helicopter (possibly a Bell H13) falling from the sky during a demonstration right in front the crowd/bleachers (which is where I and the family were sitting) ... completely engulfed by fire ... one fatality ... at the time my Dad worked for Hughes Aircraft Co at Edwards and the was the test RIO for the Convair F-106 which had an MA-1 radar weapon system. Decades later my sister and I worked in the Hughes F-14 (A/D) program office. The Airshows at Edwards AFB and Point Mugu NAS are lifetime memories...last but never least once saw Bob Hoover (RIP) fly the Shrike Commander at the Torrance (CA) Municipal Airport show ... Thank You Keith Chicago IL

  • @brettmerritt8621
    @brettmerritt8621 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @Whimsicaldreams8
    @Whimsicaldreams8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Like the content. Could use a short pause in between stories and maybe slow down just a bit in general. Gives the viewer a moment to absorb what they have just seen/heard. Will definitely be watching more!

  • @connorredshaw7994
    @connorredshaw7994 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I was at the Shoreham 2015 airshow in person with one of my closest friends who invited me to go with him i can't believe it's already been 8 years from the crash.
    Around a week later I went to my local Clacton airshow and there was a moment of silence for those lost then followed by a round of applause from the spectators it brought a few tears to my eyes.😢
    And the fact that Andy hill was found not guilty makes me sick to the stomach. 😠

    • @jeremybr2020
      @jeremybr2020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You personally witnessed the 2015 Shoreham crash, and a week later you go to another airshow???? I'm not sure what to think about that. I know personally, there would be no way in hell I would be going to another airshow for quite some time after that.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s so odd of you

    • @cliveatton4938
      @cliveatton4938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I went to Bournemouth the next day to see the Vulcan for the last time.

    • @bias0437
      @bias0437 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@@M_SCNot exactly, i was there when dan fillers mig23 went down in michigan, and a few weeks later i was in cali watching the Miramar airshow. Life goes on.
      Edit. Just realized i technically saw the last Mig23 flight in america, damn

    • @jonridley
      @jonridley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was there too and i remember saying to my partner.. ‘he’s too low” when he started the loop, I was interviewed on a couple of radio stations and the bbc. It looked dodgy from the start to me .

  • @Ashley-wm7ix
    @Ashley-wm7ix หลายเดือนก่อน

    We lived on a mountain off base and saw the smoke and fire of a plane crash. Our father was a corpsman and we knew he was on the flight line that day. When he returned home that evening, we asked him what happened. He paused for a moment and said "Blood, guts, and feathers, but no brains." I never forgot those words when I was learning to fly.

  • @karlitos7529
    @karlitos7529 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was supposed to be at that Ramstein show. We would go every year when we lived in Germany. However, this year, nobody really wanted to go and I didn't want to go by myself! I even watched them perform that maneuver during a practice run the day before. I knew a couple people that were injured.

  • @rubinreiter6351
    @rubinreiter6351 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Had been at Ramstein and left spectators area while seeing that the doomed aircraft comes in right in the direction of the crowd. Strictly forbidden at any RC-airfield and they allowed it for a manned jet. So I was lucky and far away enough from the deadly zone. Planning was absolutely unprofessional. While planning such a performance it's to be considered that there is always risk for failure that nobody can exclude completely.

  • @cessna172ident
    @cessna172ident 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think the crash of one of the first Airbus A320s should be on the list. It occurred during the Habsheim Air Show and is still controversial due to a possible coverup to protect Airbus fly by wire as parts of the FDR were tampered with.

    • @stejer211
      @stejer211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have checked your medical file, but nowhere does it say that you cannot read capital letters.
      "10 DEADLIEST Air Show Disasters..."

    • @jcheck6
      @jcheck6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't the plane's fault, strickly the pilot.

    • @GoCoyote
      @GoCoyote 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The flight controls were "tampered with" so certain safety systems could be disabled in order to show off the aircrafts capabilities outside of its normal operational envelope. This is likely the reason for the tampering with the FDR. Who could have guessed that anything could go wrong by disabling safety systems?

  • @2217Video
    @2217Video 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People do acrobatics in circuses, aeroplanes do AEROBATICS.

  • @hukedonfonix1671
    @hukedonfonix1671 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most of respect to all aviators. I have often found how companies and governments deem extra training and maintenance is "too expensive", meanwhile all these aircraft are either cutting edge or experimental and cost 10s of millions of dollars per aircraft. Meanwhile, the pilots, bystanders, and civilians who suffer the unfortunate and unexpected crashes are priceless, for we will never know what any 1 of them could have invented or accomplished.

  • @markforster6457
    @markforster6457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong. I recall reading that a lesser-known part of the Ramstein tragedy was that American military personnel refused to let local German first responders onto the base when they first arrived.

  • @shanekennethjamesaustin3949
    @shanekennethjamesaustin3949 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great debrief Hoover! Thank you for a no nonsense & accurate breakdown of the issues.
    I have worked as an Airboss and main talker for many Airshows since starting in ATC back in 1981.
    The main difference between day to day ATC and an airshow is as an ATC we separate the aircraft but at an Airshow we segregate the traffic and as per the brief keep up the movement of the acts so it doesn’t become boring for the crowd.
    If any of the acts require pilots to visually separate themselves from an act it is fully briefed on the ground and the segregation is kept in place until the pilot accepts responsibility for visual separation.
    In over 100 Airshows the team I work with has never had an incident or injury.
    Thank you for your channel.
    Shane.

  • @rubenoteiza9261
    @rubenoteiza9261 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I went once when I was 16 to an air show of the Chilean Air Force and as I had to use regular public transport I didn't get off where I should and I had to walk across some open field and cross some barbed wire fence to arrive where the public was. I was doing this when I heard a loud roar that was fast becoming louder and louder and I had barely raised my eyes when I saw, right over me, no more than 50 feet above, maybe even less, four F86s coming from four directions, forming a cross, and they crossed each other right over my head, the four at the same time, I don't think there was more than a few feet of vertical distance between the closest ones. Of course the public saw this from a distance but I saw it from a few meters and right below! so since then I know how dangerous those air shows are because pilots take too many risks showing off.

  • @davidwolf226
    @davidwolf226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a great overview of these tragedies.

  • @williamgates4399
    @williamgates4399 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arrogance overcomes idiots. No matter how many flight hours, stupidity wins every time.

  • @christophergagliano2051
    @christophergagliano2051 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    With regards to the F-86 crash, I didn't see in the report where the pilot actually said he was using the airspeed indicator for a rotation point (as he should have been doing). It is that he rotated too much 15° The pilot handbook says you should only rotate 5°. For sure the inexperience, or lack of knowledge of the pilot handbook, domed this flight from the beginning.
    In addition this pilot never received any training in a military jet like the T-33, so the FAA should have never granted him approval to fly that aircraft due to the lack of required traning. 😬

  • @richardjohnholdenra3492
    @richardjohnholdenra3492 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So where is Andy Hill now then? In hiding?

  • @txmarko
    @txmarko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for delivering the information without a bunch of unnecessary stuff. Subscribed.

  • @14mtaylor
    @14mtaylor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A nimrod doing a dumbbell turn sound like a bad idea!