1957 Rare BSA Dandy 70cc Light Scooter
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- When I asked Ron if he could pick one bike from his incredible collection of BSA's, it was very interesting to see which bike he picked! It's a great story about the rarest bike in his collection.
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Hi all, hope you are all well.
In around 1962 I had a Saturday job helping an elderley (it seemed at the time!) neighbour with odd jobs. He had one of these which was always in trouble and had a spare non runner machine for parts! even though they were not all that old. My introduction to powered 2 wheels when I was 13 or 14 !
All the very best from the UK
I had 2 of these when I was 14 years. Many happy days on the fields 😎
Nice to see the “classic failures” of yesterday that are the collectors’ pieces of today! 👍🏻
Worst for use may become best for a collection!
I'm just reading Bert Hopwood's book 'Whatever happened to the British motorcycle industry' and I think there is mention in there about the Dandy originally having an aluminium cylinder and only later an iron one. That along with other design faults led to yet another failed attempt at new products..... the whole of British Industry history is like that, and people wonder how come everything is now made in China !
You said it. Always too little too late and skimped on design. I seem to remember Hopwood quoting it as an example of how not to do it.
Strangely ,about 10 years back an Engineering Placement student doing his intern year with the firm I work at ,found one of these in the basement of his shared old student house, and asked if I was interested.
I wasn`t.
Maybe I was wrong. Don`t think so ,I have enough old engineering curiosities in the machine shop where I work.
Lack of investment, The UK was broke after ww2. With cheap small cars like the ford Anglia and the Mini, who wanted small commuter bikes anyway ? Fast fun machines for the weekend or summer fine, but a wimpy thing like this, forget it.
@@roeng1368 You are right there - if you get a chance to read the book it details things well - the sad bit is the Italians and Japanese not only made the small bikes that were needed in UK, but also later made bigger bikes and took the much-needed American export market away from Britain .
@@roeng1368 I think it’s time to drop the “ great “.
great collection of British Motorcycles
Wow you could make a whole series about that collection, you said it incredible! 🇬🇧🏍
Wow. What a collection!
Hello, I’m 71 living in England, and into bikes, having owned from Bantams, to Vincent’s, and I’ve only ever seen one dandy.
Thanks for that. As 14 year old a friend and I were given a non runner. Pushed it 4 miles including up a long steep hill to get it home. Never did get the b..... d to run.
Another frightful model was the BSA Beagle. I showed interest in buying one when they 'came out' and the BSA dealer actively discouraged me and told me to buy a Tiger Cub instead....and he wasn't a Triumph agent himself !.
Thanks!
Some great BSA's in that collection, thank you for this episode Mike.
Thank you Vince! Cheers, Mike
Thats a Beeza I knew little about, I know more now and thats great . . .
In common with the "Beagle" and various other BSA designs you can see the potential, you can see the typical ingenuity, you can see where they were trying to go . . . But sadly didn't quite get there . .
Some make harsh comments about these "failures" and perhaps they are justified, but many don't fully understand the back story, developement and testing is always the key, but with a desperate need for sales, sometimes this was sadly lacking . . .
1950s Britain was in "export or die mode" as a country, having been brought to her knees by the expenditure required to fight TWO world wars, despite being on the winning side she was worse off than some of the vanquished - the consequences of this were far reaching .
I'm glad to see this bike, such an original and complete example must be very, very rare, fascinating to see - thanks, very enjoyable . .
Nice collection and a nice guy too.
Brilliant, all those lovely BSAs and the talking point is a moped. I have an original paint 1954 D3 Bantam, of all of my bikes it is the one that got most attention at Poole Quay bike night a couple of years ago.
I’m in the UK 🇬🇧, I had a Dandy I was 10 years old in 1970 👍 awesome bike
Neat old pice. Never seen one even a picture of one. 🤘
Thats just the sort of bike I'm looking for, to nip down the chippie, saves getting the big bikes out. Keep safe (were back in lockdown in the UK) looking forward to next week already, Lenny from Leicestershire, UK.
Thanks for having us visit your place Ron, enjoying the fruits of the collecting years with a 'nice' surprise. Sometimes it's the little things we love most.
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My friends Mum had one of those, slowly rotting under a tarpaulin in the garden in the late 1070’s. Never seen one on the flesh since.
Thanks Monty. Best wishes, Mike
Where have all the BSA gone, ask Ron.
That’s some collecting he’s got going on.
Have a great week Mike 👍🛠
Where have all the Beezers gone,
Long time asking,
Where have all the Beezers gone,
Long time agoooo.
Where have all the Beezers gone,
Gone to geezers everyone....
Oh when will they ever learn...
Cause I will never get a turn.
I did watch the whole video. It was like looking in a cake shop and being offered a dry crust. The other bikes looked amazing. I was waiting for at least a taste of them.
Right on!
Many thanks to Ron for sharing a look at his BSA Dandy! So cool to see such a rare machine. Also cheers to Ron for having all those runner's in his impressive collection. Also thanks for another nice production to Mike!
Good video Mike. At the beginning I was thinking, that looks like the biggest BSA graveyard I've ever seen, and then he mentioned that 28 are running out of 30....... mighty impressive I must say, well done Ron.👍
I probably would like any of his other BSAs but not that one! Love the 650cc models! especially the dual carb models!
Very interesting. Let see that Rocket 3 next.
That is an interesting little bike. Must have been a new young engineer that thought those ideas to be good.
Actually, it was the experienced designers, who were given a budget of Diddly Squat and had to make the best of it. They were rubbish! Failed totally before it even got off the drawing board. Management believed that Joe Public would buy it because it was Brirish, so blinkered were they in their views of "Foreigners" engineering.
Oooh. Is that a T160 hiding amongst the Beezas? Maybe part of the collection because BSA made the engine?
T160 is an incredible bike - if only they had sorted out the electric start and the valve guides. The middle cylinder just ran way to hot out here in Oz.
this was my first bike at age 13 in Scotland when I used it on the road. It was written off a few years later when another Bike T-boned me. Last Bike was a Hyabusa, so went from about 2 to 180 bhp.
Another kid brought one of these to the quarry one day, it lasted about 5 minutes. Pre-selector g'box if memory serves. Awful little machine. Lol! Thanks Mike. Looked like a '65 Spitfire Hornet amongst the treasure trove, sweet!
Oh dear, I wonder who designed it, he wasn't very good was he. One of the neatest little bikes made some years later was the Puch Maxi, a very simple and logical design but well made and Puch sold thousands.
Actually it was one of the greatest designers of his day, Bert Hopwood who also designed the Norton Dominator, BSA A10 and Triumph Trident amongst others. Was most likely rushed, underfunded and designed to constraints set by the men in suits upstairs who had no real idea of motorcycles.
Rare and atrocious. That's a heady mix. I've never even HEARD of that thing, so thanks for the looksee!
Wow British Bikes Galore. I have heard and read about the BSA Dandy Scooter in the Classic Motorcycle Magazine. Really Sad that these models could not be fully developed as they were unique and innovative. Sadly a another failed British Attempt. Thanks for bringing it up in this video. Cheers 👍
There is actually one of these for sale in Sydney at the moment.
Man, I love this new series. I knew Ron was into BSA's but had no idea just how sick he is!😄
Hehe, he has it bad... very bad 😄
Nice but as they say, it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding :)
His Lordship always has a funny quip.
Your mates are so knowledgeable and interesting. I'd like to see more of this great collection. The headlight brackets are strange on the A65s. Are there any Gold Stars there?
"I'll be right back I'm just gonna go to the store."... That's what you said right before you rode this "Dandy!" Can you imagine the disaster if that bolt ever let go? Yardsale!!
they realised it was not working in the market place ! understatement bsa went on to produce in 1970's under the Ariel name a 3 wheeler that cost 2million to develop if only they had focused on the bandit 350 / 500
Really interesting - It'd never heard of that model. You'd think they would have made it for the moped market where they'd have a wider audience (assuming you could ride a moped at 16 back then in the UK).
We could......and the Yamaha FS1E was the one to be seen on...The "Fizzy Boys"!!
Kool 🖖🏼🏍✌️😊
My dad owned one (exactly of the same color) in the late 50s. He bought it from an RAF serviceman stationed in one of the airbases in Singapore. If I remember correctly, the preselect handlebar gearshift had only 2 gears?
Yep, #1 Dead Slow....#2 Slow.......45 miles per hour, flat out, downhill, with a following wind.
A Dandy was my first motorised transport at 16 years old. I passed my test on it and learned a LOT about how to maintain stuff. It's incredible how that dreadful design ever got into production. the engineering was dreadful. You had to split the engine to get at the contact breaker points, the main bearings were grease lubricated at the same time, until they did a simple mod with a greasing point ( so you never pump grease into the bearings while the engine is hot. You had to take a screw out of the crankcase casting and pump into a grease nipple until grease came out of the hole. With a hot engine the grease melts into the crankcase instead. When i started mine there was a MASSIVE dense cloud of grey smoke that filled the walkway alongside the house) There was no suspension damping whatsoever and yet the handling wasn't bad due to the reasonable size wheels and low speed. The rear light bulb blew at regular intervals. At one stage the internal flywheel came loose on the shaft. It still ran at 10 mph, to get me home, and needed a bit turned off on the lathe to get it to fit properly on the taper shaft. But it was independant transport, giving a sense of freedom. It started first kick, and did 80 mpg. To think I ignored a chance to buy a BSA Bantam, a design stolen from the Germans at the end of WW2, and which sold in their 1000s!
Amazing they kept making it for 6 years, it reminds me of some of the terrible cars British Leyland came up with in the 70's or the bathtub Triumphs of the 50/60's
I challenge you to a race against my Tomos Golden Bullet moped.
I have the identical bike. Mine has a slightly different stand which is very poor
Yep, the stand is just a bit of bent thick wire, so you never sat on it or tried to start it on the stand.
A Ferking nightmare of a bike...mostly in the shop than the road...I was earning minimum minimum wages....1959....and couldn't afford it...!!...
Me too, Ian. Total Rubbish! Only good bit was it started first kick and did 80 mpg. My first bike, so slow I couldn't do much damage to myself.
A rare Dandy that's not so dandy.
Dreadful things those 'Dandy's, had that 'bust in the middle', thank goodness BSA spared the US from their blight.
The bike that was reviewed looked the least interesting in the collection!
Yet another poo pa😥