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2:04 "Don't need any tools." Fact check: false. He's clearly using two tools - his hand and his brain. It's very important to utilize those tools, especially the latter, when doing basic car maintenance.
Touche
Another reason I do my own oil changes with the best filters.
Me too
Yes
I just checked my cabin air filter on my 20' Mustang GT I got from a Chevy dealer and they had shoved the filter so far into the box it wasnt filtering and they didnt even put the cover back on properly so one side was open. This is why I try to do as much work as I can on my own car.
Just wow! This is one of the reasons that even being disabled I have to get down on my hands and knees and change my own oil because I don't trust anybody else to do it right and I've been working on vehicles for over 40 years and it is getting harder to do it. Hand tight only for oil filters. Cuz if you have to use a tool to tighten your oil filter there's something more wrong with your vehicle.
Jeez luckily they had it towed in before that engine blew
Free undercoating no additional charge.
Sounds like a jiffy lube oil change
Definitely or a take 5
Crazy. Some guys have no clue how to work on a car and an oil change is gravy.. if you can't do that than get the F out of auto service.
You should try removing a filter from a 4rnr when dealer does it.
I thread canister in until O-Ring friction and top of canister stop.
No torque.
18 lb-ft and you have trouble removing it.
Yeah, I do my own even though I'm over 70 y.o.
Holy cow man that’s freakin nuts. I worked in a shop once where an oil change guy did that with drain plugs. He cracked an aluminum pan once.
After going to the dealer for 4 years for regular service, decided to do my own oil changes. What I found: - the drain plug was on extremely tight. Upon removal no gasket on the plug. (Plug supposed to have its own integrated gasket),
- nothing stuck to the oil pan and strained the oil into a jug - no gasket. Guess that explains why the tech over torqued the drain plug
Oil filter - also on extremely tight. Oil filter wrench couldn’t turn it. Channel locks did the job.
Have not been back to that dealer since. Don’t trust them at all. (That same service they did the “complimentary alignment check, stated the caster/camber was out on the right front. Said no to the alignment. When I got the car home I checked all the lug nuts on all the wheels. Right front tire two were so loose I could turn them by hand. The others were not torqued to the proper spec. Wow! )
The drain bolt could have been replaced before, and used a crush washer with the new bolt, which is acceptable and not uncommon, especially if the intergral gasket on the factory plug was damaged. Or just removed the damaged gasket and replaced with a crush washer. Then the crush washer fell off when the next person did the next service and didnt put a new crush washer. Obviously not acceptable.
That's what you get going to a rapid lube place. Inexperience .. Well done Rich.👍👍👍👍👍👍
Just another reason to do it yourself.
i'm getting old, but not sure which one of my kids changed the oil last in my truck. my boy got in an accident, so he needed to use it for a few days, he may have dropped it off at my daughters house to have her do it. either way, i don't care because it was done right anyway.
Rich, Good eye for detail. 👀
At least the shop put oil in it! 😂
they put too much
@@SyNdicateZ81 Nah, rewatch the beginning, customer was smart and decided to stop driving it and tow it somewhere reputable.
Only ran for 5 minutes, noticed smoke, had it towed. A pin hole wouldnt lose that much oil in 5mins. But still make a mess spraying under pressure.
@@jacksmith2315you do realize that the oil pump puts the oil under pressure through the system.so even in 5 minutes a lot of oil can be expelled. Just like a pin hole in a water pipe.
I remember when I had my first car when I was 17 and my father telling me never ever use a tool to tighten an oil filter. Hand tighten it only. I'm 65 now and have always done so with spin on filters exactly as shown here.
Brother wish you were down in florida not many good mechanics with you talent. Hope this job goes well for you and your family
Speaking of oil changes when are we getting the oil results for restore and protect?
These oil filters only get TIGHTER with time and temperature cycling. You don't need to kill them. The video tightening is probably tighter than I tighten. The rubber makes the seal. Use a little grease or oil on the rubber. Make sure the old gasket is no longer on the mounting surface. Great video. Car owner needs to take the ruined filter back for a refund.
An oil change is the most basic maintenance you can do. If someone can't do that correctly, I'd certainly never trust them for any repairs. It's a good thing that hole wasn't bigger or the engine would be toast.
Those quick oil change places will hire anyone. Good thing they brought the car to you right away and got it done right. That oil spraying everywhere could have been a disaster for them.
Install and tighten by hand. Only use the oil filter wrench if you have a problem taking it off the next change because you are replacing it anyway.
When I was a lube tech we put some used oil on the new filter gasket, tightened it by hand, sprayed it with brake clean, then finished tightening by hand without “putting our body into it” so we weren’t overdoing it. Done. Never had a filter we did not come off with a two hand grip no tools.
That was probably one of those internet experts who installed that filter
Video at 11😅😅😅
Lotta truth there tho...
Thanks expose this, very lucky engine seize.yes, this big problems fast lube same here canada.thanks video😮
Farm out to the man. Good eye😊
The dealership tightened my oil filter this tight. It was hell to take it off, crushed it worse than this one to get it off
Nice to see a Master Tech doing oil changes. Too many high school students doing oil changes at dealers and every where else out there. I see oil blowout road residue on the highways around my town at least once a year. I can only imagine the filter has fallen off or blown the seal. Less chance that the drain plug fell out imo. Sometimes the oil trail is short. Sometimes long where there is only a trace of oil until engine parts can be seen scattered. 2 times the oil trail ended where the asphalt was melted, presumably where the car burned to the ground…..
That's nuts man! Whoever did that service needs to never touch another damn car again! Over tightened to the max oil filter and obviously way too much damn oil if it's still full. Wonder how tight the drain bolt was, probably cracked the washer on that also if its a plastic one.🤦♂
A lot of people like to tighten the filter until the gasket is squashed into the filter so much that the metal housing is touching the car!
SMH
Must have been compensating for something! lol
That's why I do my own oil changes and services
I bought a low mileage used Chevy pickup from a Volvo dealer. Nothing but good things to say about the purchase experience (Principal Volvo in San Antonio Tx). They did an oil change at the dealer when they acquired the truck according to their records. Since I have no idea what oil they put in it other than 0w20 I decided to change it out at 3000 miles. I do my own maintenance and bought the oil that I like using which is Valvoline. Had to use a breaker bar to get the drain plug off 🤦♂️. Luckily no damage to the pan or lug that I could tell. I’ve done several oil changes on it since with no issues. I don’t doubt the drain plug was ugggaaduggad on there by someone who needs more training.
I own a 96 ranger with 3.0 V6 with spin on filter. The oil filter location is such that I can only turn it with fingertips. The only tool I can get on it is a band type wrench. All one can do use the tool carefully, and not tighten it beyond one turn.
As you said, lots of stress and customer did the right thing with the tow. Years ago, I had an oil change and the kid didn't put the filter on properly, it popped off AS I came off the highway. Took it to the shop near where I worked and he gave me hell for doing the oil change with a cheapie place. LOL He was right. Never did that again.
I always do my own oil changes. Not just because of instances like this, but because of the crappy oil filters they use.
I change my oil I leave about one quarter from the top on the stick. Oil expands when hot and will read at the full mark
Local lube shop did the same thing to me. Not only over tightened it, but it was also cross threaded. They also screwed up the drain plug.
What ever happened to hand tight? I’ve had oil filters on so tight I had to drive a screwdriver through them to pry it off.
Use the right tool.
My coworker had his oil changed. They tightened the filter so tight that the oil seal on the filter split, the oil pumped out and blew his engine. They bought him a used engine from the wrecking yard to replace his.
Another prime example why I do not let anyone touch my cars...90% of techs out there are absolutely morons... Even for warranty or recall work you're better off buying the parts and doing the work yourself it'll probably save you a bunch of headaches in the long run
I've had customers cars that the oil filter was so tight king Kong couldn't loosen them up.
I agree! What are they trying to prove by tightening an oil filter down like that?
A family friend took their brand new jeep Cherokee to Wally World for a routine oil change. My sister and I just happened to be behind them as we were both heading out of town and back home, about 35 miles away.
When we were about 5 or 6 miles out of town, the friend pulled over and put in her hazards. We pulled over as well to offer help if needed.
When I got out, I could see a steady trail of oil from her jeep headed back toward town. Her oil light had come on , she was confused and thought it was something related to needing an oil change, and within a mile the motor seized.
Turns out, the kid who changed the oil did not properly seat the drain plug, nit tighten it. Once the engine got up to pressure, the plug was ejected, it was later found about 500 to 1000 feet away from the oil change bay exit.
So a brand new vehicle with less than 3500 miles was destroyed by an incompetent kid, who got a 1 hour training class.
It's why I never use the instant oil change places, I always either change my oil myself, or as I've gotten older, I take it to my trusted mechanic.
i went to a 15 minute oil change back in 90's and after had a drain bolt that wasnt tight and and after a couple days i noticed oil in my driveway. probably a few quarts. never again have i been back to one of those places. i do it myself now and take the used oil to walmart.
The only time it's ever acceptable to use a tool other than your hand to reinstall an oil filter is for cartridge style filters, where you replace the filter element and gasket in a reusable housing. Even then, you gotta be gentle on those; they only need to be tightened to ~15-20 lb-ft, which is not much.
STP oil filter. Nice.
Still boggles my mind that someone can STILL mess up a simple oil change smh
It's the environment these young lube techs are thrown into. There's not real training, a lot of them just think working on cars is cool and have no experience. Dealerships know this and trust these kids with your cars, hoping to eat the cost or better profit. I had two new techs when I worked, both mistook the transmission drain and the engine oil drain.. but again, lack of leadership, everyone is busy in their own stall, can't catch it every single time..
Loober goobers back at it again
The only ones I do snug with a strap wrench are the gm trucks 4.8,5.3, 6.0, 6.2. It’s difficult to get them tight by hand because they’re so close to the oil pan you can’t get your hand around it.
Herman Munster’s house of automotive lubricants….😅
Pretty crazy the tech dented and cracked that oil filter. Some places will just hire anyone to do oil changes with little to no experience doing them.
In addition to damaging the oil filter on installation, whoever performed the oil change must have overfilled the crank case if it was still full. Perhaps the customer topped the oil level off after finding the leak.
I wonder how tight the drain plug is?😊
Thanks, interestingly, “ crushing Filter,over tight “ is reason I had to, change to “ Point S”……..hopefully, Trained Tech., or Mechanic….(generally did my own Filter/ Oil for some 30++years,
Same thing with lug nuts,some tire techs WAY over tighten.
The oil change places also don't need to torque down the oil drain plug to 200 ft lb!
Would’ve probably cost the owner the whole car those engines are extremely expensive and not easy to replace 😬👀
Had a similar issue was back in 2002. The days before I knew anything. Since then I've done my own oil changes. I've worked in 4 different dealerships since then too, and the shit I've seen ....YIKES! For example hiring kids right off the street (literally) with no experience, or just a year of shop class. Kids that can't even drive stick, or write, and can barely read. Wish I was joking. I've seen customers bring their vehicles in for tire rotations and the tech not even bother. Yet they charge them for it. Or customer comes in and wants a cvt fluid drain and fill. Tech does it, but doesn't even wait for it to fully drain out. Lots of other things too.
I’ve always hand gripped tightened and that’s it no tools
Alternatively: The 10 best tools money cant buy - your fingers!
Valvoline instant over tightened my moms oil filter. It was a pain in the a** to remove it. All bent up by the time I got it off.
Wow. A little bit passed hand tight....
Ignorance is find that mechanic and he have problems getting to work after this
I use dielectric grease and hand tighten.
Let’s be very clear here. It doesn’t matter where you get your oil change done if the person doing it doesn’t know his job. It happens at dealerships and quick lubes and independent shops. We need to know some of the basics and be willing to check the work afterwards. If you’re not satisfied then find someone else or educate yourself on how to do it. It’s a trust issue and you can be let down even by a trusted shop.
There are some vehicles where you can't get your paws on the filter and need to use a tool. That's why you need to read. Oh wait, you don't need to read. Just do what's in the pictures on the box.
They just try to assess me Trump about two hours ago. Crazy shit going on.
This is what it’s going down to now
Sorry I am from a military background and these comments are getting me heated up. I know how you feel. This should never had happened!
I was 3rd generation at West Point New York . wtf are these peoples value now. I believe in our country and over 3.5 years it not even respected anymore. I know your messages are going through the roof. No idea what our country can do except for giving them stimulus checks for nothing. I didn’t accept one. Sorry to proud
Biden put a hit on him
Ironic that there was an STP oil filter on there and the next oil filter was also an STP. I didn't realize these filters were so popular...I would never use one.
I've seen job postings for lube techs at dealerships in my area and they pay $15/hour. What do you expect?
If you're hired to do a job, at least do it correctly!!
yep. and you will be doing nothing but oil changes for YEARS before you move up. while also having to pay for your own tools. nobody wants to be a lube tech, so the ones they have are never able to move up. labor rate is 180/hr but they want to pay their lube techs less than 10% of that... the industry is a joke.
Amazing, but absolutely sad, when even paying someone to perform an oil change and it cant be done right. Its an oil filter, not a head bolt. Whoever did that lsst oil change should never touch another car if they cant even do a simple oil change wo damaging something, especially the filter. Im all for people learning and making mistakes, but thats something you dont mess up. Especially like that. Obviously never did the final and most important step. After your finish, start it and check for leaks. Had they done that, they would have noticed this.
It's been that way for 50 years duh why who teaches that way!
They probably went to Jiffy Lube or Pep Boys. SMH...
Use *Baldwin* Oil Filter.
Hey, Ford Boss.
Years ago I took my wife's car to a oil change place. I left the place and about a block away, oil and s
This is completely unnecessary that has to be one of the easiest oil filters to assess if you can't get that hand tight it's time to hit the gym
I just use a band wrench to snug it. No damage. If you know what you're doing you can snug a filter with filter plyers. Just grab the base.
Don't need a tool
@@FordBossMe from years of turning filters I have nerve damage so I use a band wrench. It's like burning lightning shooting through my hand and wrist when I hand tighten.
@@duckwacker8720 Same here, I have nerve damage or something of the sort that caused reduced hand grip quite a few years ago and as well its not just small filters but large highway tractor diesel engine filters which I can't begin to install as per directions from the contact point, so I use the special steel strap wrenches for the filter size at hand to snug up to specifications. Also some filters on equipment are in a spot that is hard to access properly because there is no clearance to even fit fingers around the filter its that tight a space. Taking off filters tends to be harder than when it went on so out with the filter wrench to loosen it off. In all the years that I have replaced engine oil filters, fuel filters, hydraulic filters etc I have never once put a pin hole in a filter when installing nor dented a filter while installing. This example was just a complete hack job that was done and whoever did that mess is clueless or they had a real winner teaching them to do the job like this.
You don't need tools to tighten ONLY loosen
@@duckwacker8720hire out the job then if your in the DC area my price is 25.00 for the labor
What did they do, use a pipe wrench??? Crazy! Maybe spec is inch-pounds and the gorilla did foot-pounds. 😂
Hand tight !!!
I noticed when I put the oil filter on hand tight it's tighter when I try n get it off by hand that'd why using tools on those is a big f-ing no no
WTF? Some people have no business working on cars.
Did he get the oil change done at that dealer?
They over tightened my cartridge filter an stopped oil flow just because I wanted to check my filter an it was crushed
Note, your "Prayer is needed bigtime vid will not play" Hopefully the reason is not due to the title including "prayer".
All the signs of one of the "quickie" oil change places. Look at their employees- none of them are old enough to have much experience with anything and at the prices charged you usually can't buy quality oil and filter yourself so they can't be using them. And they can't pay much of a wage at those prices after expenses either.
You can't get what you don't pay for and it doesn't make sense to risk the most expensive part of your car with someone like them, yet that's the norm. Scary when you realize just how stupid so many people are...
lord some ppl don't know have to do jobs correctly
I didn't know Chevy volts had normal engines
Hybrid
Yes, they’re a plug-in hybrid. The engine acts as a generator to recharge the battery, it doesn’t actually drive the vehicle under normal conditions
Why so tight on oil filter techs,mechanic still over tightening stuff.
Man, that's ridiculous. I always take a few mins to make sure i dont have any leaks when I'm done. I change my own oil. My 2000 Explorer keeps throwing a p0171 and p0174 code any idea where to start I've scanned it cant figure it out. I've check every hose can't find a leak. I don't have a smoke machine to test the manifold. It's killing me since it had a surging idle on cold start and intermittent once warmed up. Apparently its common on this 4.0 SOHC.
Damn, only hand tightening the oil filters, not use a tool
Quick change oil places hire crackheads?
That's the truth
rookie mechanic mistake. should be done by a well-known good mechanic.
Wow
GM tech school in Chicago teaches their techs to completely tighten filter by hand, then 1/4 turn with filter wrench. They said that by doing this it reduced customer oil leak complaints by 80% at all their dealerships.
Because not everyone has the same hand strength.
It’s all migrants working in those lube joints,most are over qualified to do this kind of work but can’t find anything in their field so they call family members looking for work,get hired and end up wreaking whatever they touch,I wish they would stick to their own profession.The very last time I went to a giffy lube they used lock tight and RTV sealant on my filter,I almost had to call a tow truck to have a mechanic try and get it off,I have done my own oil changes ever since.
Just hand tighten ....even i can do a oc
It was a LIBERAL mechanic and the car owner is MAGA 😂😊
No. A true liberal wouldn't have a real, hands-on job like that.
But you’re supposed to torque everything
Where did the trump post go lol must have been fake news
Trump was shot and you are doing a video on oil filters.
This was before that you goofy
Blocked?
Trump was probably grazed but still it's messed up
Everyone knows that. Were did they go?