Had mine remapped 3 weeks ago still putting a bloody big smile on my face even more than before It’s like a new car and a small increase in mpg can’t be bad 😎🏴
I had my 2.7 HSE LRD 3 remapped, l did a long journey to the S o France straight after, gotta say like driving another car, accelerated so much better noticed the improved from pull away immediately, and the increased full consumption was certainly noticeable, local garage did it for about £175 lv had that back many fold in diesel saved. That was about 4 years ago, l did have to change intercooler down pipe but that could have split anyway.
Just come back to this after a couple of years. I'm thinking of doing this now, but am just worried about snapping the crank as that's a weak point. How is yours going? Is it still running ok?
Was considering doing this until I discovered that it would cost me about an extra £200 a year in insurance costs. If you don't tell them and you have an accident you are not insured! A friend (who also has a D4) told me a friend of his was considering doing this but had an accident shortly before having it done - I was told that the first thingh the insurtance did was to check for a re-map. So, don't do it without checking with your insurance first.
@mellowgamer6353 Unfortunately, I had to sell it to buy my first house. In hindsight, I probably would have just gone for just the economy remap as they do have issues with the crank if over tuned. The later engines were upped a little anyway with the R-Sport edition, so they're well capable. I'd highly recommend getting an icarsoft scanner though to check the multiple sensors and scanners they have, there's several in the exhaust system alone. Had one on the DPF go prior to the remap and caused no end of woes trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
I wouldn't risk that with the TDV6. The enormous pressure on the undersized crankshaft bearing can have the worst consequences. Having a little more fun with the extra power isn't worth the risk of engine damage.
I think the biggest issue with any remapped diesel is the extra smoke produced, notice after the remap when he pulls away hard 8.52 minutes, its laying down two black smoke trails? I have never had a turbo diesel thats been tuned that does not make extra smoke, especially off boost conditions, and I have had a few, Im no green nutter but do think you have to be careful of our image to others concerning visible smoke.
dunno how many clicks on your d3 but next time you change eng.oil filter, cut the filtrate in half, spread it out, any signs of bearing metal will show, I did this as a heavy truck eng field serviceman with Cummins have a d4,uses 17l/100 pulling 2 tonne van, uses 12 normally, that is fuel measured at pump, the disco puter reads 7'8 on long runs, which is nonsense have a passat tdi, 5.5l/100 here too Melbourne 1200km one tank and it is so powerful
From what I've read elsewhere, it's a bad idea to remap the 2.7, as the gearbox is already at the maximum of it's power threshold, which is why I've not done the same with my RRS. It'll be interesting to see if that's the case. Please keep us posted.
the zf6hp26 is ran in the XR6 Turbo which pump out a large amount of power and torque with a basic remap and trans tune compared to our landy's, the biggest drama with these transmissions is the owner neglecting them which detroys the Torque converter over time. It might just be people remapping there car with an already unhealth trans
yep… but only issue is I have the 17 inch wheels that restricts disc size. I like the 17’s as it allows for a larger profile tyre that are better off road.
Especially on modern diesels where the accelerator is not a linear input. 8th of the throttle is more likely about a 3rd. Most modern diesels are made like this to make the normal performance feel better and more responsive. It can leave drivers disappointed when you put your foot down and it doesn’t go much quicker though.
Well that's why I don't buy diesel cars plus LR never offered one. I have a 2008 Discovery 3 SE V8 installed a Super Sprint cat back exhaust and a K&N drop in air filter and what a difference it makes.
This is one big thing putting me off considering a remap. Not to worry anyone, I know it's not every engine anyway, but an engine known for struggling with its job out of the factory isn't in my mind best suited for tweaking to get more. We don't even like to drive ours hard as standard just to be safe.
Nope - condition and maintenance is far more important than mileage! Some low mileage cars have not had the love attention they need, while high mileage cars have have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
it’s doing really well, averaging about 27mpg, which I think is good considering all the mods. I took it on a trip around wales 400 miles that included about 4 hours off road, still averaged 25mpg
Hmm, re-mapping … interesting, appears to be all good there then. But on the basis that we don’t get something for nothing, I wonder are there any downsides? I always ask why the manufacturer doesn’t tune this way initially, is it maybe due to excessive fuel consumption or inability to meet emissions targets, or indeed a shortened service life? Is re-mapped equivalent to the old term ‘chipped’. A pal of mine had his Audi A4 chipped, which went somewhat quicker, right up to the point where his turbo blew up less than a year later. I have a Discovery 4, so am interested to learn about your results longer term.
It’s down to emissions. Manufacturers tune their engines to the best optimal and most importantly best emissions levels. Hence the old diesel gate issues that VW kicked off. If you always consider mates saying they got such good mpg from their tdi vw I was always amazed….. with good reason.
The Disco 4 uses the SDV6 engine, the same engine that used to be used in the Disco 5. in the D4 is puts out 255hp and 600nm, in a D5 305 hp and nearly 700nm exact same engine, gearbox, transfer box, everything. You can easily tune the D4 up without worry.
@@justinaddis1505 have a d4,uses 17l/100 pulling 2 tonne van, uses 12 normally, that is fuel measured at pump, the disco puter reads 7'8 on long runs, which is nonsense have a passat tdi, 5.5l/100 here too Melbourne 1200km one tank and it is so powerful
I have an 09 discovery with 192 tho on the clock I've been thinking about getting it remapped I always thought they put them on a rolling road to do a remap
I’m nervous about remap. I have a new engine but I always think you are adding stress on other components like the turbo and the gearbox. If it new a new car I wouldn’t be so concerned but at 15…
Obviously the drivetrain will be under a bit more stress but the engine will actually not work as hard as it is more poweful after a remap. I've remapped lots of my own cars and they always ride so much smoother and seem so much less strained after remapping them.
i was told if you remap the 2.7 tdv6 the torque converter cant handle the extra torque from the remap and makes the auto gearbox go into limp mode from too much strain.
He's loaded a file onto your ECU, nothing else. He hasn't tuned anything at all. He pays for a file which he then loads onto your car that's it! Makes me laugh this "tuning lark" 🤣
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Had mine remapped 3 weeks ago still putting a bloody big smile on my face even more than before
It’s like a new car and a small increase in mpg can’t be bad 😎🏴
I had my 2.7 HSE LRD 3 remapped, l did a long journey to the S o France straight after, gotta say like driving another car, accelerated so much better noticed the improved from pull away immediately, and the increased full consumption was certainly noticeable, local garage did it for about £175 lv had that back many fold in diesel saved. That was about 4 years ago, l did have to change intercooler down pipe but that could have split anyway.
Definitely worth it
Just come back to this after a couple of years. I'm thinking of doing this now, but am just worried about snapping the crank as that's a weak point. How is yours going? Is it still running ok?
Was considering doing this until I discovered that it would cost me about an extra £200 a year in insurance costs.
If you don't tell them and you have an accident you are not insured! A friend (who also has a D4) told me a friend of his was considering doing this but had an accident shortly before having it done - I was told that the first thingh the insurtance did was to check for a re-map.
So, don't do it without checking with your insurance first.
I've got the 3.0 sdv6 in my XJ, it's an absolute monster now it's been remapped
How longs it been remapped for ? Is it reliable any problems with it asking as I’m about to do my disco 4 sdv6
@mellowgamer6353 Unfortunately, I had to sell it to buy my first house. In hindsight, I probably would have just gone for just the economy remap as they do have issues with the crank if over tuned. The later engines were upped a little anyway with the R-Sport edition, so they're well capable. I'd highly recommend getting an icarsoft scanner though to check the multiple sensors and scanners they have, there's several in the exhaust system alone. Had one on the DPF go prior to the remap and caused no end of woes trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
I wouldn't risk that with the TDV6. The enormous pressure on the undersized crankshaft bearing can have the worst consequences. Having a little more fun with the extra power isn't worth the risk of engine damage.
2.7 or 3.0?
@@mrcartaz5925 both
im glad you showed us what he did
I think the biggest issue with any remapped diesel is the extra smoke produced, notice after the remap when he pulls away hard 8.52 minutes, its laying down two black smoke trails? I have never had a turbo diesel thats been tuned that does not make extra smoke, especially off boost conditions, and I have had a few, Im no green nutter but do think you have to be careful of our image to others concerning visible smoke.
dunno how many clicks on your d3 but next time you change eng.oil filter, cut the filtrate in half, spread it out, any signs of bearing metal will show, I did this as a heavy truck eng field serviceman with Cummins
have a d4,uses 17l/100 pulling 2 tonne van, uses 12 normally, that is fuel measured at pump, the disco puter reads 7'8 on long runs, which is nonsense have a passat tdi, 5.5l/100 here too Melbourne 1200km one tank and it is so powerful
A remap time bomb on that engine tbh. Good luck.
Eh no
From what I've read elsewhere, it's a bad idea to remap the 2.7, as the gearbox is already at the maximum of it's power threshold, which is why I've not done the same with my RRS. It'll be interesting to see if that's the case. Please keep us posted.
Not heard this before, so far all OK.
the zf6hp26 is ran in the XR6 Turbo which pump out a large amount of power and torque with a basic remap and trans tune compared to our landy's, the biggest drama with these transmissions is the owner neglecting them which detroys the Torque converter over time. It might just be people remapping there car with an already unhealth trans
Early d4 with 245bhp had the same gearbox.
Would rather say the extra stress on the crank will be more of a problem.
Gareth is the man!
As for brakes. Put the RRS caliper carriers on and the bigger disks. Works like a charm and cost effective :)
yep… but only issue is I have the 17 inch wheels that restricts disc size. I like the 17’s as it allows for a larger profile tyre that are better off road.
I am puzzled how anyone can put their foot down and think to themselves mmmh yeah that’s definitely an eighth of a throttle
Especially on modern diesels where the accelerator is not a linear input. 8th of the throttle is more likely about a 3rd. Most modern diesels are made like this to make the normal performance feel better and more responsive. It can leave drivers disappointed when you put your foot down and it doesn’t go much quicker though.
Well that's why I don't buy diesel cars plus LR never offered one. I have a 2008 Discovery 3 SE V8 installed a Super Sprint cat back exhaust and a K&N drop in air filter and what a difference it makes.
It will be interesting to see if the crankshaft can handle the extra stress.
fingers crossed, let you know in a few months time
This is one big thing putting me off considering a remap. Not to worry anyone, I know it's not every engine anyway, but an engine known for struggling with its job out of the factory isn't in my mind best suited for tweaking to get more. We don't even like to drive ours hard as standard just to be safe.
I was advised against having my RRS mapped for exactly that reason.
@@chrisoverson mines been remaped for 10 years and still fine it how you maintain them generally
my disco 3 has 350km on the clock, 2006 tdv6 2.7L, drives like new...is there a km limit when remapping is unwise?
Nope - condition and maintenance is far more important than mileage! Some low mileage cars have not had the love attention they need, while high mileage cars have have the kitchen sink thrown at them.
Still going well? I'm about to do turbo and exhaust crossover on my d3 and thinking the remap would be nice for improving towing etc .
yep, still going strong, I think I should make a quick follow up video and record the 0-60 going down the hill…
@@JayTeeCars going news thanks! overall what's been the effect on mileage?
on average its improved by about 4 to 5mpg.
For me that is significant if you think in percentage its 20% improvement.
After driving the car tuned now for a bit, what is your MPG like?
it’s doing really well, averaging about 27mpg, which I think is good considering all the mods.
I took it on a trip around wales 400 miles that included about 4 hours off road, still averaged 25mpg
@@JayTeeCars how much would I need to budget to get my D3 tuned. Thank you for your video its helped alot.
around £300
Amazing video Jay Tee.
Thank you! 😃
Great video. What app did you use for the acceleration and BHP figures?
All Torque
@@JayTeeCars Thanks Jay
Gotta reach that 10 minute mark :)
Hmm, re-mapping … interesting, appears to be all good there then.
But on the basis that we don’t get something for nothing, I wonder are there any downsides? I always ask why the manufacturer doesn’t tune this way initially, is it maybe due to excessive fuel consumption or inability to meet emissions targets, or indeed a shortened service life?
Is re-mapped equivalent to the old term ‘chipped’. A pal of mine had his Audi A4 chipped, which went somewhat quicker, right up to the point where his turbo blew up less than a year later.
I have a Discovery 4, so am interested to learn about your results longer term.
It’s down to emissions. Manufacturers tune their engines to the best optimal and most importantly best emissions levels. Hence the old diesel gate issues that VW kicked off. If you always consider mates saying they got such good mpg from their tdi vw I was always amazed….. with good reason.
The Disco 4 uses the SDV6 engine, the same engine that used to be used in the Disco 5. in the D4 is puts out 255hp and 600nm, in a D5 305 hp and nearly 700nm exact same engine, gearbox, transfer box, everything. You can easily tune the D4 up without worry.
@@mikeb53 Although the early D4, like ours is not an SDV6 but a TDV6, which I believe is a lower output engine….
@@EtiRats The 2010 to 2012 D4's had 240hp and 600nm, lower but only 15 hp. Empire is a really good map to get.
@@justinaddis1505 have a d4,uses 17l/100 pulling 2 tonne van, uses 12 normally, that is fuel measured at pump, the disco puter reads 7'8 on long runs, which is nonsense have a passat tdi, 5.5l/100 here too Melbourne 1200km one tank and it is so powerful
Hi Jay, Just intrested to know whats the milliage is on your disco at the point of chipping? Thanks.
it is currently at 107k miles
I have an 09 discovery with 192 tho on the clock I've been thinking about getting it remapped I always thought they put them on a rolling road to do a remap
I’m nervous about remap. I have a new engine but I always think you are adding stress on other components like the turbo and the gearbox. If it new a new car I wouldn’t be so concerned but at 15…
Mine is a 05 with 172;000 miles all your doing is using all the power that the car was designed for
Obviously the drivetrain will be under a bit more stress but the engine will actually not work as hard as it is more poweful after a remap. I've remapped lots of my own cars and they always ride so much smoother and seem so much less strained after remapping them.
Hi, Thank you ✅
I’m sorry can I ask you why you told your insurance ?
Too risky... as this video has 45,000 views
Great report and feed back thanks. What app are you using on ur phone please?
Thanks, I am using this app Torque Pro (OBD 2 & Car)
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en_GB&gl=US
PS. I must test my 0 - 60 times again. I have looked at the road I tested on before and it is definitely up hill, so numbers should be better.
Awesome thanks so much. Appreciate it. Love my Sport haha!
i was told if you remap the 2.7 tdv6 the torque converter cant handle the extra torque from the remap and makes the auto gearbox go into limp mode from too much strain.
Not true what they told you, no problems from remapping
Would enjoy re-map my D4 but completely law forbidden in France ... or do it at your own risk, fines & penalties ...
that's no cricket
@@JayTeeCars better to avoid even if it looks like great improvement, right ?
Any Fuel consumption change?
Not sure yet as I haven't driven many miles since the remap. I will tell you in a few weeks time.
Report?
my stock 2005 disco 3 which has done 156,000 miles ,constantly reaches 60 in 9 /10 seconds...Not sure where you get your figures from||
It was more uphill than it looks, I haven't shot a video but going the other direction knocks about 4 seconds off ;-)
So much smoke 😂
it actually only smokes above 90% throttle, where it is set to over fuel, below that it drives normally with no smoke.
😷🤭😄
How much does it cost to get it remapped
it’s about £300 but depends on what you want, check out www.empiretuning.co.uk/discovery-remap/
What was the app you used on your phone?
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO REMAP
about £300
sorry..that is 350000km...217000 miles...i am in australia!
I don't think there is a specific limit, I have heard of people mapping at 160,000 miles and still going strong at 210,000
£30 insurance admin fee ?
could be the reason why it came out more than I had expected.
So you pay £400 a year? Well… nevermind us paying £400 a month for no reason other than being foreign people in the Kingdom 😢
It didn’t cost me any more when I informed my insurance company about the remap,snorkel and rear ladder
Nice, wish it was the same for me. I am paying about £380 a year with all mods disclosed.
@@JayTeeCars I’m still paying around that mush but when I told them about the modifications a few years ago they didn’t ask for more money.
A few more such efforts at the start and your engine will lose the crankshaft on the floors , exactly half of this diesel is extremely unreliable ,🥴🥴🥴
He's loaded a file onto your ECU, nothing else. He hasn't tuned anything at all. He pays for a file which he then loads onto your car that's it! Makes me laugh this "tuning lark" 🤣
Its an ECU tune and its the fuelling map that is being tuned. The word tune doesn't just refer to mechanical bits these days.
seriously🤣 repporting to the insurance company about the remap thatsts the most wank i have ever seen ,