Why tf is so hard for the cubs to get us fans a stable 3rd baseman my goodness you had matt Chapman last off-season and you didnt do it pull the trigger man you will make your money back eventually when your team is always in the playoffs your stock will only rise!!!
@@SetupManCubsHindsight is always 20/20, isn’t it? Based on just the offensive numbers at the end of 2023, Matt Chapman and Christopher Morel were pretty close, but Morel was playing a variety of defensive positions. So, I don’t blame the Cubs for not going after Chapman. I don’t think anyone expected Morel’s numbers to struggle in 2024 as much as they did when they moved him to third base. If Morel would have had a 2024 season, similar to his 2023 season, there would be no Matt Chapman conversation. But, Hoyer and the Cubs, or any other team and president, don’t have a crystal ball to know exactly what a guy will do in an upcoming season. And, the Isaac Paredes move should have been an upgrade at third base, but, Paredes couldn’t get any thing going offensively or defensively when he came to the Cubs. If Paredes could have been consistent, like he was in Tampa, the Cubs may have gotten to the playoffs. Personally, I think the Cubs should have stayed with Morel at third. There’s always a period of adjustment when a player’s moved to a new position, especially when it’s as busy as third base can get. But, I still think Morel and Paredes were just place holders until Matt Shaw’s ready. I was fine with the Cubs not signing Chapman…his offensive numbers with the Giants were not that great and he lead the league with 15 errors.
I still think the Cubs may have jumped the gun on trading Morel. I hope he’s able to rediscover his confidence and whatever troubles he had with his swing…it could have been one small mechanical issue or an injury. There were a few at bats and games in a row when he fouled pitches off his front foot/toes. I remember when Jody Davis did that in the 1980’s and he might have sustained a broken foot (or toes). The Cubs refused to put him on the IL, so he had to make some adjustments and his offensive numbers struggled too. I wasn’t surprised when Morel struggled in Tampa…I’m sure he was shocked from the trade. But, I look forward to following a healthy Christopher Morel in 2025.
Last year the Cubs had no closer. The team blew 26 saves. Had the Cubs had not blown half of those saves they would’ve been in the playoffs. That being said, they should go out and sign a closer. Tanner Scott or Kirby Yates would be my top 2 targets. Porter Hodge could be the set up man in the 8th and leave it to Tanner or Kirby to close it out in the 9th. Our starting pitchers, relief, pitchers lineup, and bench seem like they’re almost all complete. But the one void is a closer which has been needed for what seems a long time now.
Last Report Scott was offered 60mil by Mets. 4yr, 60mil for Tanner Scott. Cubs are not gonna pay that, they are in on Kirby but his market has shot up from 1yr 9mil projections. So both are looking at 15mil ish just a matter of years.
Great idea as far as Justin Turner, except, A) he is mainly a DH at this point of his career - 13 games at 3B, 84 games at 1B, and 185 games at DH over the 2023-2024 seasons & B) he is too expensive - $13,000,000 salary in 2024.
I think third base is exactly what we need to give Shaw a chance. To assist him, I think Moncada, who plays a platoon role and is expected to see a slight rebound, would be best suited. Ha-seong Kim also thinks it’s not a bad move.
Cubs, are often criticized for not spending heavily on high-quality players, primarily because they prioritize maintaining a certain level of financial stability and are reluctant to exceed the league's luxury tax threshold, even though the Cubs are considered a large market team with the potential to spend more on talent; this leads to calls for them to sell the team to someone willing to invest more in acquiring top players
Note: Alonso and Bergman's market has fallen down. Jed jumps on deals alot of the time when they fall back down. So Pete Alonso for 3yr 100mil? Busch and Shaw platoon at 3B? That would be an Elite lineup. Or Bergman I'm thinking 🤔 is 3yrs 75mil. They should definitely do that if that's the cost.
Nico was a 5War player in 23, 24 was rough. So what player are you getting? He only makes 10mil per so your not clearing a ton of $$$. Can Triantos play 2B this year?
Trade for Twins Closer Jhoan Duran. 105 Mph. Guy is the new Chapman. The off speed stuff is Great too. If it cost Alcantara, fine. I don't think Twins would ask that much.
@RedneckOutdoorsman4life Maybe Bo Bichette but we need to make sure we sign Tucker and those 2 are both Free Agents as well. Vlad will get 500, likely from Blue Jays, he's gonna help the Cubs with Tucker not being as hyped up. Think Cubs resign Tucker to 400mil. And Bichette gets 350mil from Yankees. Ownership isn't gonna pay all that. More Pray 🙏 Owen and Alcantara are Vlad level players which...maybe. The lineup can win and so can the rotation. It's the bullpen cost us bad the last 2 years. Jhoan Duran would give us an Elite arm I mean the best in ⚾ to take out the best guys late. So when we score 7runs, they don't score 8 in the last 2 innings and win. We lost like that pry 100x in 2years
@RedneckOutdoorsman4life Oh snap, your channel should take my channel fishing bro. I'm a big time Cat guy. Use Dip bait. I actually got a 100Lb Blue in powerton. 60Lh flathead. And then 30Lb channel all night. They got Cats the size of cars at Powerton tho FR. And the water doesn't freeze in the winter so it's best to fish there now. They grow year round. Also amazing sized Bass.
I believe that the Cub bench is going to be youngsters. Triantos is a young Ben Zobrist. Can play all outfield positions plus 3b, ss, 2nd. Regular 4th outfielder will also come from the AAA team. Killian is a guy that can be a huge weapon out of the bullpen. Topping out a 100mph fastball and good curve for one inning relief. Only need that AAA team can't backup is 1st base. This why they hired counsell to nurture those young guys like he did in Milwaukee
I'm not sure Triantos has room though. He's pretty much ready now. Where do you play him based on the current roster? Crowded outfield, and do you really want 2 rookies (Shaw) playing major roles on the infield? I just think Triantos true value to this team is via a trade
I see that the setup man, others want depth/backup pieces and lower tier relief pitchers (Yates, Finnegan). However, that would take almost all of the $ with pieces that won't contribute, make much of a difference. The Cubs have depth, young prospects, but they don't have many players that can raise the ceiling (Tucker was huge). They need more ceiling raisers, not just back up fillers. That doesn't move the needle. Spend the money on top tier pitching, not sprinkling around on 5 players that won't change their win total
It's been clear that top tier pitching (from a starter stand point) is being pursued via a trade. Bullpen: Jed just won't commit top dollars in the bullpen. It's not his thing. So, it's not that I want them to go get mid-tier guys, it's just that I'm being realistic about what we know about Jed and his habits
@@SetupManCubs you're probably right. I just don't think mid-tier guys really helps the Cubs in 2025. They traded for Kyle Tucker for 1 season, why not at least prove they can win the division, safely? Perhaps no other division is as winnable as the NL Central. I think getting a higher tier SP (Castillo, Lopez) would help the team the most, but a closer would put a "knife" in the rest of the division imo
Luis Castillo or Pablo Lopez trade and GET TANNER SCOTT. They would immediately be very deep in pitching (most important thing in 162 game season) and would be clear favorites in the NL Central
@SetupManCubs The cubs have the prospects to make a Mason Miller trade without giving up Cassie Horton or Shaw who I would consider the only untouchables. Imho
One move: Get Trevor Bauer. Bullpen is stronger this year for sure. Agree though. If the gap between AAA and MLB has never been bigger....you can NOT get rid of Nico for Shaw at 2nd. Players can't always do well in the bigs. Get rid of a gold glover who steals 30 bags and gets your 30 doubles vs a guy who might make errors daily and hit .125. You need a back up 3rd baseman for Shaw at 3rd. As far as all the AAA guys on the bench? They will ALL get playing time. They are not getting better physically in AAA. Mentally they get better in the big knowing they can get some spot starts, pinch hit, pinch run for the catcher, and be ready to play for a starter nurses a sore hammy or oblique is the perfect time to see what they got. And it's a cheap bench not a 7 million Hosmer or whatever he got paid. Carson is getting what, 6 million as a potential back up catcher to Amaya? If money is so tight, you have no choice but to get Bauer for a million a year and rely on young guys with maybe a veteran infielder, so a cheap bench too. Then pray your offensive starters stay healthy and produce. Which guess what? EVERY GM in baseball thinks the exact same thing.
Three moves, actually. Sign Tanner Scott, sign Paul DeJong, and sign either Jack Flaherty or Roki Sasaki. Those three moves give the Cubs a competitive team.
I have an interesting Idea that would be a bit weird but with top prospects maybe ones you want to develop more longer term so not mlb ready prospects could they send them to japan? I do not know how well recieved this would be and how much the npb teams would trust a random dominican guy coming over and playing with them but it would be very similar to maybe a small step down from the majors for these guys. I do not think this is super realistic especially with prospects maybe not wanting to uproot themselves and move there but it would be an interesting experiment which may be worth a try lets say if you want to develop some of these guys further than in just triple A.
I don't know the semantics behind it all. It's a nice outside-the-box idea, but I don't think an organization would give up a guy just to hope and pray he came back to that same org after Japan
Please do not use James Triantos on a trade. He can be the Cubs next Ben Zobrist, a valued utility player that puts the ball in play and does not K much. The Cubs have historically had great in season and playoff hitting slumps with their sluggers (even in 2016 for a few stretches). Having a pesky contact bat like Triantos is a great way to snap a team out of a hitting slump.
@SetupManCubs none. And as a general policy that's OK, but you have to realize when there are exceptions. If (when) he finds the team still needs a good bullpen arm in July, he's going to be paying--maybe less dollars/years than Scott, but much more in prospects. Capital is capital, whether cash or assets. So which is a bigger price, 3 years and 45M now, or trading 6 years of Cade Horton at the deadline? It took the #6 MLB prospect to get the Chapman rental in 2016... Right now, the Cubs have money, but no good places to spend it in two positions of need, 3B and a top of the rotation guy (well, Bauer seems a perfect fit, but maybe MLB teams are smarter than the legal system that has shown 2 "victims" to be frauds, but that's a rabbit hole). The Cubs focus so much on value at the individual player level, that they are inflexible and seems to disregard the cost of missed opportunity. What are the costs of missing the playoffs by not fixing a relatively low-cost hole?
The Coby Mayo trade idea was the clear winner. My next idea for one move would be for Jed to convince the Ricketts that getting rid of any private equity money is essential to the success of this franchise. They're f/ing multi-billionaires, they don't need some anal-retentive d/bag bean counters trying to run the team at maximum profit every year.
It is a much bigger risk not to sign one of the decent closers for 9-10mil for 1 or 2 years then it is to go into this season and risk blowing 3 saves in the 1st 3 weeks and deflate the whole team again for 2 months like last year and 2 years ago until they 'figure it out' ... Thats a stupid strategy and Jed has to get rid of that blind spot... Givens, Robertson, Jeffrees, Chafin, Martin, Tepera were all good moves... keep trying to find one of them again and pay the 10mil and let Hodge continue to grow and work his way into the closer job... but 6 months is a long season and every team needs a 2nd guy who can get 3 outs in the 9th inning
Yall wilding with the Justin Turner talk. 3B at Wrigley is out of the question. Feels like Gary Gaetti all over again and that was a late szn trade. No thanks. If you spending money at 3B, has to be fielding + high upside at the plate. I'm on the Moncada bus largely because of + glove and switch hitting. Ha-Seong Kim is intriguing tho.
Agreed … it looks like they’re counting on Busch & Tucker to have big years and *hoping* the rookie 3rd-baseman can be the next Chris Bryant. On paper, they don’t look scary yet, but they should win more games than they have over the past 2-seasons.
I agree man we need another hitter id go after connor joe he can play any postion practically snd hes got a good stick and he hits good at wrigley they def need more offense that's why you lose games 3-2 because you didn't do enough in the offseason IMO the.time is now!!!!?
@@justinnoceda2115 Connor Joe is a good idea. And I also completely agree that the time to do that is now. Too many people talk about deadline moves. By then it’s possibly too late. Way too many games have been lost early in the season the last two years because the team was not constructed well to start the seasons
I think this offense is pretty set. I personally would like another bat too, but at the moment, I think Jed just wants to get a leverage bullpen arm and a #2 starter.
i mean my god youd think Shaw is going to come in and be Aramis Ramirez immediately... You need to always have proven pros at every position. Cant just always be patient with every single guy that gets called up to where it hurts winning
I don't see the value in getting Kirby Yates for $10+ million and not spending $18~million for Tanner Scott. Yates is basically a coin toss because of his age/low ceiling. Scott has huge upside AND is younger/lefty
@@SetupManCubs Josh Hader actually had a really good season after the first month of baseball. I think he will be significantly more valuable than someone like Kirby Yates in 2025 as well...
You think PCA would accept 8 year for $80 million? lmfao. He would want, at minimum, double that amount of total $. If it's 8/80 million then YES do it, but he will want closer to 200million than 80 imo
If he wants that, then you tell him to kick rocks. He hasn't played a full season. That's why you do it now for under $100 mil. No harm in having the conversation
@@SetupManCubs Fair enough, but I would be blown away shocked if PCA accepted anything less than $100 million for 8(!) years. He's clearly more valuable than that now...even before he's a proven hitter. His defense and speed in an open market (at his age) would easily get more than $10 million a year. I don't think PCA would exactly like being viewed as undervalued either
I wish i could wake up one morning and see we traded suzuki and cassie and jordan wicks for Brent Rooker if we had tucker and rooker omg talk about a powerhouse at 3 and 4 in the lineup
Well, if it's a singular move I'd be tempted to try the mega deal that would hinge on one guy waiving his NTC. That mega deal would be the Cubs sending Shaw, Horton, Brown, Alcantara, Assad and Rojas to Cleveland for Ramirez and Clase. Cubs would get the 3B and Closer they need and the Guardians would get a huge influx of young talent. Realistically, I'd trade Triantos to Seattle for Castillo and see if they'd include Ryan Sloan or Jeter Martinez. Cubs would sure up the rotation and possibly get a young SP prospect back. Of course this would be after Sasaki made his choice.
@@SetupManCubs It'd be a lot to give up, but you'd be getting proven top guys at their respective positions for the next 4 years. 2 of those years, they'd only count 26M total against the CBT. If Sasaki chooses the Cubs, as we both think he should, (wink wink, nudge nudge) then the Cubs would be as set as anyone to take on the Dodgers.
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We got a 2.22 era guy in 5 Starts for the Yankees for Bellinger. Nobody cared 😅. We spend 30million on a guy who had similar numbers over 9 games 😂.
Why tf is so hard for the cubs to get us fans a stable 3rd baseman my goodness you had matt Chapman last off-season and you didnt do it pull the trigger man you will make your money back eventually when your team is always in the playoffs your stock will only rise!!!
It's a good question. Hopefully Shaw is the guy, but I still think he's better suited at 2B
@@SetupManCubsHindsight is always 20/20, isn’t it?
Based on just the offensive numbers at the end of 2023, Matt Chapman and Christopher Morel were pretty close, but Morel was playing a variety of defensive positions. So, I don’t blame the Cubs for not going after Chapman. I don’t think anyone expected Morel’s numbers to struggle in 2024 as much as they did when they moved him to third base.
If Morel would have had a 2024 season, similar to his 2023 season, there would be no Matt Chapman conversation. But, Hoyer and the Cubs, or any other team and president, don’t have a crystal ball to know exactly what a guy will do in an upcoming season.
And, the Isaac Paredes move should have been an upgrade at third base, but, Paredes couldn’t get any thing going offensively or defensively when he came to the Cubs. If Paredes could have been consistent, like he was in Tampa, the Cubs may have gotten to the playoffs.
Personally, I think the Cubs should have stayed with Morel at third. There’s always a period of adjustment when a player’s moved to a new position, especially when it’s as busy as third base can get.
But, I still think Morel and Paredes were just place holders until Matt Shaw’s ready.
I was fine with the Cubs not signing Chapman…his offensive numbers with the Giants were not that great and he lead the league with 15 errors.
I still think the Cubs may have jumped the gun on trading Morel. I hope he’s able to rediscover his confidence and whatever troubles he had with his swing…it could have been one small mechanical issue or an injury. There were a few at bats and games in a row when he fouled pitches off his front foot/toes. I remember when Jody Davis did that in the 1980’s and he might have sustained a broken foot (or toes). The Cubs refused to put him on the IL, so he had to make some adjustments and his offensive numbers struggled too.
I wasn’t surprised when Morel struggled in Tampa…I’m sure he was shocked from the trade. But, I look forward to following a healthy Christopher Morel in 2025.
Last year the Cubs had no closer. The team blew 26 saves. Had the Cubs had not blown half of those saves they would’ve been in the playoffs. That being said, they should go out and sign a closer. Tanner Scott or Kirby Yates would be my top 2 targets. Porter Hodge could be the set up man in the 8th and leave it to Tanner or Kirby to close it out in the 9th. Our starting pitchers, relief, pitchers lineup, and bench seem like they’re almost all complete. But the one void is a closer which has been needed for what seems a long time now.
They blew more than that it was like 32 or 33 i thought
Last Report Scott was offered 60mil by Mets. 4yr, 60mil for Tanner Scott. Cubs are not gonna pay that, they are in on Kirby but his market has shot up from 1yr 9mil projections. So both are looking at 15mil ish just a matter of years.
Love the Mayo and Turner ideas.
Agree with Kyle on the amount that would take to get Mayo- but would do it.
Great idea as far as Justin Turner, except, A) he is mainly a DH at this point of his career - 13 games at 3B, 84 games at 1B, and 185 games at DH over the 2023-2024 seasons & B) he is too expensive - $13,000,000 salary in 2024.
@ he wont make nearly that much this year
I think third base is exactly what we need to give Shaw a chance.
To assist him, I think Moncada, who plays a platoon role and is expected to see a slight rebound, would be best suited.
Ha-seong Kim also thinks it’s not a bad move.
I would get a good stopper for sure milt
Cubs, are often criticized for not spending heavily on high-quality players, primarily because they prioritize maintaining a certain level of financial stability and are reluctant to exceed the league's luxury tax threshold, even though the Cubs are considered a large market team with the potential to spend more on talent; this leads to calls for them to sell the team to someone willing to invest more in acquiring top players
Note: Alonso and Bergman's market has fallen down. Jed jumps on deals alot of the time when they fall back down. So Pete Alonso for 3yr 100mil? Busch and Shaw platoon at 3B? That would be an Elite lineup. Or Bergman I'm thinking 🤔 is 3yrs 75mil. They should definitely do that if that's the cost.
Nico was a 5War player in 23, 24 was rough. So what player are you getting? He only makes 10mil per so your not clearing a ton of $$$. Can Triantos play 2B this year?
Triantos would be realistically ready post all star break but probably sooner if injuries happen with Nico
You can give Shaw or Triantos a shot at the everyday infield. But not both. It's not a realistic plan if the goal is playoffs in '25
Trade for Twins Closer Jhoan Duran. 105 Mph. Guy is the new Chapman. The off speed stuff is Great too. If it cost Alcantara, fine. I don't think Twins would ask that much.
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I agree, and trade for vlad jr.
@RedneckOutdoorsman4life Maybe Bo Bichette but we need to make sure we sign Tucker and those 2 are both Free Agents as well. Vlad will get 500, likely from Blue Jays, he's gonna help the Cubs with Tucker not being as hyped up. Think Cubs resign Tucker to 400mil. And Bichette gets 350mil from Yankees. Ownership isn't gonna pay all that. More Pray 🙏 Owen and Alcantara are Vlad level players which...maybe. The lineup can win and so can the rotation. It's the bullpen cost us bad the last 2 years. Jhoan Duran would give us an Elite arm I mean the best in ⚾ to take out the best guys late. So when we score 7runs, they don't score 8 in the last 2 innings and win. We lost like that pry 100x in 2years
@RedneckOutdoorsman4life Oh snap, your channel should take my channel fishing bro. I'm a big time Cat guy. Use Dip bait. I actually got a 100Lb Blue in powerton. 60Lh flathead. And then 30Lb channel all night. They got Cats the size of cars at Powerton tho FR. And the water doesn't freeze in the winter so it's best to fish there now. They grow year round. Also amazing sized Bass.
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Kim isn’t gonna be ready until May, doesn’t make sense to add him with Nico on the roster too.
Everybody is right that we need a versatile INF. But none of the guys mentioned play 1B
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Justin Turner does
I believe that the Cub bench is going to be youngsters. Triantos is a young Ben Zobrist. Can play all outfield positions plus 3b, ss, 2nd. Regular 4th outfielder will also come from the AAA team. Killian is a guy that can be a huge weapon out of the bullpen. Topping out a 100mph fastball and good curve for one inning relief. Only need that AAA team can't backup is 1st base. This why they hired counsell to nurture those young guys like he did in Milwaukee
I'm not sure Triantos has room though. He's pretty much ready now. Where do you play him based on the current roster? Crowded outfield, and do you really want 2 rookies (Shaw) playing major roles on the infield? I just think Triantos true value to this team is via a trade
I see that the setup man, others want depth/backup pieces and lower tier relief pitchers (Yates, Finnegan). However, that would take almost all of the $ with pieces that won't contribute, make much of a difference. The Cubs have depth, young prospects, but they don't have many players that can raise the ceiling (Tucker was huge). They need more ceiling raisers, not just back up fillers. That doesn't move the needle. Spend the money on top tier pitching, not sprinkling around on 5 players that won't change their win total
It's been clear that top tier pitching (from a starter stand point) is being pursued via a trade.
Bullpen: Jed just won't commit top dollars in the bullpen. It's not his thing.
So, it's not that I want them to go get mid-tier guys, it's just that I'm being realistic about what we know about Jed and his habits
@@SetupManCubs you're probably right. I just don't think mid-tier guys really helps the Cubs in 2025. They traded for Kyle Tucker for 1 season, why not at least prove they can win the division, safely? Perhaps no other division is as winnable as the NL Central. I think getting a higher tier SP (Castillo, Lopez) would help the team the most, but a closer would put a "knife" in the rest of the division imo
Cannot go into the season with more questions on the bullpen... the easiest path to generate 7 more wins is the bullpen
I cant see the O's coming off Mayo
Pitching for now
Luis Castillo or Pablo Lopez trade and GET TANNER SCOTT.
They would immediately be very deep in pitching (most important thing in 162 game season) and would be clear favorites in the NL Central
I'd love that too, but it seems to me that Lopez is going to cost more than he's worth. That's the vibes I'm getting
CLOSER
Who would you get?
@SetupManCubs The cubs have the prospects to make a Mason Miller trade without giving up Cassie Horton or Shaw who I would consider the only untouchables. Imho
Get a power bat or a number two or three starter
One move: Get Trevor Bauer. Bullpen is stronger this year for sure.
Agree though. If the gap between AAA and MLB has never been bigger....you can NOT get rid of Nico for Shaw at 2nd. Players can't always do well in the bigs. Get rid of a gold glover who steals 30 bags and gets your 30 doubles vs a guy who might make errors daily and hit .125. You need a back up 3rd baseman for Shaw at 3rd. As far as all the AAA guys on the bench? They will ALL get playing time. They are not getting better physically in AAA. Mentally they get better in the big knowing they can get some spot starts, pinch hit, pinch run for the catcher, and be ready to play for a starter nurses a sore hammy or oblique is the perfect time to see what they got. And it's a cheap bench not a 7 million Hosmer or whatever he got paid. Carson is getting what, 6 million as a potential back up catcher to Amaya? If money is so tight, you have no choice but to get Bauer for a million a year and rely on young guys with maybe a veteran infielder, so a cheap bench too. Then pray your offensive starters stay healthy and produce. Which guess what? EVERY GM in baseball thinks the exact same thing.
I agree
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Three moves, actually. Sign Tanner Scott, sign Paul DeJong, and sign either Jack Flaherty or Roki Sasaki. Those three moves give the Cubs a competitive team.
I have an interesting Idea that would be a bit weird but with top prospects maybe ones you want to develop more longer term so not mlb ready prospects could they send them to japan? I do not know how well recieved this would be and how much the npb teams would trust a random dominican guy coming over and playing with them but it would be very similar to maybe a small step down from the majors for these guys. I do not think this is super realistic especially with prospects maybe not wanting to uproot themselves and move there but it would be an interesting experiment which may be worth a try lets say if you want to develop some of these guys further than in just triple A.
I don't know the semantics behind it all. It's a nice outside-the-box idea, but I don't think an organization would give up a guy just to hope and pray he came back to that same org after Japan
Neris is wasn’t used right
Agreed
Please do not use James Triantos on a trade. He can be the Cubs next Ben Zobrist, a valued utility player that puts the ball in play and does not K much. The Cubs have historically had great in season and playoff hitting slumps with their sluggers (even in 2016 for a few stretches). Having a pesky contact bat like Triantos is a great way to snap a team out of a hitting slump.
If we miss out on Roki. I would trade for one of Logan Gilbert or George Kirby
7 trillion dollars for 15 Years for PCA
I just don't think the Mariners are shopping them
@SetupManCubs They would want twice as much as what we gave up for Tucker. Just wishful thinking I guess.
Tanner Scott certainly carries risk (and I would only go 3 years), but Kirby Yates is EXACTLY the kind of "buy high" guy that implodes like Neris.
Yea, but who is 1 bullpen arm that Jed has signed to a 3 year deal?
@SetupManCubs none. And as a general policy that's OK, but you have to realize when there are exceptions. If (when) he finds the team still needs a good bullpen arm in July, he's going to be paying--maybe less dollars/years than Scott, but much more in prospects. Capital is capital, whether cash or assets. So which is a bigger price, 3 years and 45M now, or trading 6 years of Cade Horton at the deadline? It took the #6 MLB prospect to get the Chapman rental in 2016...
Right now, the Cubs have money, but no good places to spend it in two positions of need, 3B and a top of the rotation guy (well, Bauer seems a perfect fit, but maybe MLB teams are smarter than the legal system that has shown 2 "victims" to be frauds, but that's a rabbit hole). The Cubs focus so much on value at the individual player level, that they are inflexible and seems to disregard the cost of missed opportunity. What are the costs of missing the playoffs by not fixing a relatively low-cost hole?
The Coby Mayo trade idea was the clear winner.
My next idea for one move would be for Jed to convince the Ricketts that getting rid of any private equity money is essential to the success of this franchise. They're f/ing multi-billionaires, they don't need some anal-retentive d/bag bean counters trying to run the team at maximum profit every year.
Assad and another piece for Mayo would be a nice move. But there's no way they're coming off of him
Agreed, but I don't see Jed crossing that line
It is a much bigger risk not to sign one of the decent closers for 9-10mil for 1 or 2 years then it is to go into this season and risk blowing 3 saves in the 1st 3 weeks and deflate the whole team again for 2 months like last year and 2 years ago until they 'figure it out' ...
Thats a stupid strategy and Jed has to get rid of that blind spot... Givens, Robertson, Jeffrees, Chafin, Martin, Tepera were all good moves... keep trying to find one of them again and pay the 10mil and let Hodge continue to grow and work his way into the closer job... but 6 months is a long season and every team needs a 2nd guy who can get 3 outs in the 9th inning
Yall wilding with the Justin Turner talk. 3B at Wrigley is out of the question. Feels like Gary Gaetti all over again and that was a late szn trade. No thanks.
If you spending money at 3B, has to be fielding + high upside at the plate.
I'm on the Moncada bus largely because of + glove and switch hitting. Ha-Seong Kim is intriguing tho.
We need another big bat. They are very short on offense.
Agreed … it looks like they’re counting on Busch & Tucker to have big years and *hoping* the rookie 3rd-baseman can be the next Chris Bryant.
On paper, they don’t look scary yet, but they should win more games than they have over the past 2-seasons.
I agree man we need another hitter id go after connor joe he can play any postion practically snd hes got a good stick and he hits good at wrigley they def need more offense that's why you lose games 3-2 because you didn't do enough in the offseason IMO the.time is now!!!!?
@@hailmaryrecordings8255 I agree. But as you said, there is too much hope involved. There’s no excuse not to really improve this team.
@@justinnoceda2115 Connor Joe is a good idea. And I also completely agree that the time to do that is now. Too many people talk about deadline moves. By then it’s possibly too late. Way too many games have been lost early in the season the last two years because the team was not constructed well to start the seasons
I think this offense is pretty set. I personally would like another bat too, but at the moment, I think Jed just wants to get a leverage bullpen arm and a #2 starter.
i mean my god youd think Shaw is going to come in and be Aramis Ramirez immediately... You need to always have proven pros at every position. Cant just always be patient with every single guy that gets called up to where it hurts winning
The one move would be signing Tucker long term. Why give away Cam Smith for a rental player?
I hope they do. But my hopes are low
I don't see the value in getting Kirby Yates for $10+ million and not spending $18~million for Tanner Scott. Yates is basically a coin toss because of his age/low ceiling. Scott has huge upside AND is younger/lefty
It's just a commitment thing. You will likely never see Jed commit long term to a reliever. Josh Hader is a good example of why
@@SetupManCubs Josh Hader actually had a really good season after the first month of baseball. I think he will be significantly more valuable than someone like Kirby Yates in 2025 as well...
Spend money!
Rojas to the Whitesox, so that's not going to happen now. He wants to play every day, and the Cubs couldn't give him that opportunity
I'm all in on the Justin Turner to the Cubs bandwagon
Low risk, high reward. Get 'er done!
Bolster the pen with a real closer.
Yes please
Rojas is out. Signed with southsiders.
Yes, this video was made before that
TANNER SCOTT.
Sign a bon a fide closer. If He can make only one move.
Who would you get?
If the cubs had Hader they would have made the playoffs
See his stats last year? It wasn't good
You think PCA would accept 8 year for $80 million? lmfao. He would want, at minimum, double that amount of total $. If it's 8/80 million then YES do it, but he will want closer to 200million than 80 imo
Hes gotta start hitting defense only gets you a certain amout of money but only the glove and bat he isn't getting 200 million lol
If he wants that, then you tell him to kick rocks. He hasn't played a full season. That's why you do it now for under $100 mil. No harm in having the conversation
@@SetupManCubs Fair enough, but I would be blown away shocked if PCA accepted anything less than $100 million for 8(!) years. He's clearly more valuable than that now...even before he's a proven hitter. His defense and speed in an open market (at his age) would easily get more than $10 million a year. I don't think PCA would exactly like being viewed as undervalued either
Trade for Cease. They can give the Padres Triantos and Assad
Send Jed down to AAA
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I wish i could wake up one morning and see we traded suzuki and cassie and jordan wicks for Brent Rooker if we had tucker and rooker omg talk about a powerhouse at 3 and 4 in the lineup
Woof... that's a big package. I wanna run this through BTV and see what it says.
Also, I don't think the A's are shopping him, but one can dream
Well, if it's a singular move I'd be tempted to try the mega deal that would hinge on one guy waiving his NTC. That mega deal would be the Cubs sending Shaw, Horton, Brown, Alcantara, Assad and Rojas to Cleveland for Ramirez and Clase. Cubs would get the 3B and Closer they need and the Guardians would get a huge influx of young talent.
Realistically, I'd trade Triantos to Seattle for Castillo and see if they'd include Ryan Sloan or Jeter Martinez. Cubs would sure up the rotation and possibly get a young SP prospect back. Of course this would be after Sasaki made his choice.
Solid ideas. The first one would be hard to stomach, but a top position player in baseball + top closer would be incredible
@@SetupManCubs It'd be a lot to give up, but you'd be getting proven top guys at their respective positions for the next 4 years. 2 of those years, they'd only count 26M total against the CBT. If Sasaki chooses the Cubs, as we both think he should, (wink wink, nudge nudge) then the Cubs would be as set as anyone to take on the Dodgers.
Another reclamation project lol nah Roki
The Cubs aren't trying to win