The thing is that, for most people there's no incentive to move to bluesky. I get artists and such but for your average Joe theres nothing there. And if the general audience stays on Twitter then those that did move start to go back to where the engagement is.
The other thing is that if you already have almost 0 engagement on twitter anyway, bluesky seems like a paradise. Smaller artists and accounts get more engagement on bsky than on twitter in general
It's going to be in waves. Lemmy (a fediverse Reddit alternative) gets the occasional bump in userbase, and now it's pretty good for shitposting purposes. It even replaced Twitter as my primary news source, although for some niche communities I still need to go back to Reddit. Same for non-English communities, which while exist on Lemmy, are pretty scarce, save for the Germans. You need to block two or three domains though. In a few years, especially as Twitter continues to decay, BlueSky can overtake Twitter, but that will also require the controversies to pile up and to Elon lose the control on the narrative of such controversies (don't google what that Brazilan guy wanted to legalize!).
@@reinbeers5322 the main policy is that you need to flag NSFW content as such, which I think is a reasonable thing, but others get angry over it because "Twitter doesn't require is". The other is related to a certain kind of art, that is a legal minefield outside of Japan, and Twitter also technically bans it, except it's hard to detect for the skeleton crew of moderators they have left. Some Japanese artists on Misskey report getting banned from Twitter for such art.
It really is the same as twitch and kick, some people will find success and do well but most will not and crawl back after seeing very low conversions. Or the ban hammer gets them as they seem pretty happy stamping those out, Ive seen a couple of posts saying "I've been banned lol" within days of their "move"
They want to grandstand and announce their exit and then after a week they realize they have 1/100th the engagement after moving and come crawling back because what they really want is the attention.
@@DiogenesTheCynic. Mastodon is at least decentralized, uncensorable by design and relatively popular among Japanese artists for said reasons... But that's not enough to get the average Joe to use it. BlueSky's existence, on the other hand, has no purpose. It (also by design) suffers from all the same inherent issues as Twitter except it caters to the "Twitter bad" crowd.
invent"bluski". all content allowed,w/verified users &penny(s)to view. zero ads,all the time..this non- viable business model businesses has gotta stop G sr, 27 Oct'24
They're gonna operate at a loss for a while hoping to secure a large enough audience to squeeze later. They're likely going to stagnate, give up and cut their losses.
Once I heard they crack down on cunny I bailed.
uogh-ess is not allowed there i see? 🧐😭🦀
If even Facebook can't make Threads popular, I really don't see how Bluesky can pick up. Both of these platforms cater to the "Twitter bad" outrage.
"twitter is dying, we have to abandon ship"
We heard it 2 years ago, and we will hear it 2 years from now
Based and truthpilled.
I doubt people are gonna go back especially artists with the new tos
The thing is that, for most people there's no incentive to move to bluesky. I get artists and such but for your average Joe theres nothing there. And if the general audience stays on Twitter then those that did move start to go back to where the engagement is.
The other thing is that if you already have almost 0 engagement on twitter anyway, bluesky seems like a paradise. Smaller artists and accounts get more engagement on bsky than on twitter in general
Even for artists, they have some _interesting_ policies regarding artworks
It's going to be in waves. Lemmy (a fediverse Reddit alternative) gets the occasional bump in userbase, and now it's pretty good for shitposting purposes. It even replaced Twitter as my primary news source, although for some niche communities I still need to go back to Reddit. Same for non-English communities, which while exist on Lemmy, are pretty scarce, save for the Germans. You need to block two or three domains though.
In a few years, especially as Twitter continues to decay, BlueSky can overtake Twitter, but that will also require the controversies to pile up and to Elon lose the control on the narrative of such controversies (don't google what that Brazilan guy wanted to legalize!).
@@reinbeers5322 the main policy is that you need to flag NSFW content as such, which I think is a reasonable thing, but others get angry over it because "Twitter doesn't require is".
The other is related to a certain kind of art, that is a legal minefield outside of Japan, and Twitter also technically bans it, except it's hard to detect for the skeleton crew of moderators they have left. Some Japanese artists on Misskey report getting banned from Twitter for such art.
I'm a simple man. If Shondo says it, i believe it.
Except for once shes wrong, its still growing and thriving. At least literally every artist ever
It really is the same as twitch and kick, some people will find success and do well but most will not and crawl back after seeing very low conversions. Or the ban hammer gets them as they seem pretty happy stamping those out, Ive seen a couple of posts saying "I've been banned lol" within days of their "move"
I don't think bluesky is that relevant.. I feel like Threads fits that more
No, it really is not. Do you think Kick is more censorious than Twitch? Also, Kick is noteworthy competition. Bluesky is not.
It's like dr_g dealer's women. They always come back.
I use both. Bluesky has no ads :)
Who you're talking with? The woke twitter expats who were too fragile for all the microaggressions on X?
Nothing has ads if your brain works at minimum 1% efficiency
@@peckneck2439 elaborate
Tthe Capri-Sun rebrand in Germany is equally as unsuccessful as Twitch trying to become a single letter.
Everyone I know still calls in Capri-Sonne.
My thoughts exactly
yeah I registered on bluesky and there were 8 MONTH OLD SKEETS BY PROMINENT CONTENT CREATORS And then nothing
:^)
Is she covered in bruises?
Yeah, a door killed her ;_;
They want to grandstand and announce their exit and then after a week they realize they have 1/100th the engagement after moving and come crawling back because what they really want is the attention.
Bluesky is anti central so shondo would get b& anyways.
anti central?
@@lembarkii8669 anti ville, anti HQ, anti county
Remember threads?
I remember people could only use it if they tied their Instagram to it and when they deleted Threads it took their Instagram with it too.
This gave me extreme deja u
Lmao, Bluesky. At least you know where all the insufferable people are accumulating.
Very true
Sounds like Twitter.
@@theburgerking1236 Twitter is slowly healing since the woke crowd is finally getting push-back without getting censored.
Exactly my thoughts. Shondo called blue sky very politically extreme, so, Twitter.
@@theburgerking1236 Said like a bluesky user lol
Is this about the nerfing to the block function?
Based
Bluesky is actually getting popular now....especially since X removed blocking.
it didn't remove blocking lmao. The AI thing is a bigger issue
@@Vitou777 that and you having to agree that whatever you post they can use for monetary purposes
Just like Mastodon got popular right?
Riiiiight?
@@DiogenesTheCynic. Mastodon is at least decentralized, uncensorable by design and relatively popular among Japanese artists for said reasons... But that's not enough to get the average Joe to use it.
BlueSky's existence, on the other hand, has no purpose. It (also by design) suffers from all the same inherent issues as Twitter except it caters to the "Twitter bad" crowd.
@@Tarnstellung Decentralized and these other gimmicks mean nothing when people that matter don't migrate over and delete their twitters.
I will NOT be coming back, this girl is dumb and cringepilled
invent"bluski". all content allowed,w/verified users
&penny(s)to view. zero ads,all the time..this non-
viable business model businesses has gotta stop
G sr, 27 Oct'24
They're gonna operate at a loss for a while hoping to secure a large enough audience to squeeze later. They're likely going to stagnate, give up and cut their losses.