SpotOn GPS Fence Review: Why this collar is top dog over...

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    In this SpotOn GPS fence review I share my first-hand experiences with this GPS dog collar. I go through setting up the collar, creating virtual smart fences, and testing the boundaries. The results are shocking - this is the most accurate GPS dog fence I've tried.
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:24 Things To Know Before Using The SpotOn GPS Fence
    00:50 Setting up the SpotOn GPS Collar
    01:41 Creating Fences
    02:31 Boundary Logic and Feedback
    03:02 Boundary Test
    05:31 Training Your Dog With SpotOn
    06:01 Conclusion

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  • @ThePamperedPup
    @ThePamperedPup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    See my best deal on the SpotOn (applied at checkout): www.thepamperedpup.com/go/spoton-video-deal/

    • @rogergarcia6105
      @rogergarcia6105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would level 5 be strong enough for a big dog? I have a Rottweiler and he’s very tough so I’m skeptical of level 5 even bothering him.

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT to see you on the Tube, my guy!!!!!

  • @skyelindak
    @skyelindak ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for doing the hands/neck-on Testing required to experience that static correction at different levels. It provides very valuable input and I haven’t seen anybody else do it this way!

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful!

    • @CaptainBerz
      @CaptainBerz ปีที่แล้ว

      They usually need less correction level than you think with any electric collars. I always say to start at level 1 on every electric collar. Usually surprised many dogs correct at very low levels.

  • @melindaclay2243
    @melindaclay2243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information! Thank you

  • @Fishpig65
    @Fishpig65 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I ordered this collar because of your review. I had nothing but problems with it. After 2 months, the sound quit working on the collar, so I sent it back, and it was fixed by Spot on. Upon receiving my "fixed" collar, I was excited to continue training my dog with this technology.
    Sadly after a week of operation the collar had charging issues. It would charge in the cradle then discharge. I had to mess with the connection to get it to charge. Enough was enough.
    Although this seemed like a great containment product, it did not deliver. I could not trust it.
    My money was 100% refunded - 13.08 for shipping.
    I purchased a Garmin sport collar for 15% of the price of this product and I'm extremely pleased with it. No issues.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So sorry to hear about your experiences, and thanks for sharing! It’s been a long time since we looked at the Garmin, we’ll have to revisit it.

    • @z0sicktanner619
      @z0sicktanner619 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same happened to mine...went through 3 collars

  • @DrDeflowerMe
    @DrDeflowerMe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review!

  • @SarahPerine
    @SarahPerine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your videos. I just used your link to buy two collars. If I’m happy with them, I’ll buy two more🙌🏽 and I’ll use your link again!

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much, good luck!

  • @katietalbott4528
    @katietalbott4528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have been using the Spot On collar for 3 years now and LOVE it. We upgraded to their newest collar and are enjoying the improvements. I especially love the mapping abilities of the app.
    It allows our high energy dog to safely run on our 6 acres, without bothering the neighbors.
    We have had to contact customer service several times and their customer service is stellar. They also keep improving their collar and app. We are very happy customers.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad it has worked well for you!

  • @High_Caliber
    @High_Caliber ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well done (I tried it on my arm and not my neck...I need my neck for chewing gum and reading!). It should be noted that different dogs "feel" correction and pain differently. I had a large GSD that would pull full force for 1 hour walks against a prong collar, and actually spun around with joy when he saw it (because it meant "walk"). I've got almost 100 acres, and surrounding wilderness with cougars, moose, bear and wolfpacks wandering around, although oddly enough the most dangerous animals are deer or horses. This kind of virtual fence has been a lifesaver for our one wandering dog. Almost impossible to leash one dog of the pack on that much land, and incredibly $$$ to do a buried wire (and dogs slide right through barbed livestock fence). Anywho, just mentioning that the static correction is really necessary for real deterrence for some dogs, and if people set the "fence" and never move it, eventually the dog remembers the boundaries, and you can remove the prongs. Much better a shocked dog neck, than a crumpled heap in the paddock with the big gelding who hates dogs.
    Good review though.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences!

    • @andreagreen1467
      @andreagreen1467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If your gsd was pulling with a prong collar, you are using it incorrectly and should not be using it at all. It needs to be sized correctly and used properly. Prong collars are not meant to wait for the dog to pull to feel the stimulus. They're meant to deliver a "pop" of the leash which quickly pinches/pressures the dog and corrects the behavior. If you let them pull instead of using it correctly before they engage it, they WILL often continue to pull with it and can injure themselves. Please educate yourself on proper use before ever using it again.

  • @larryloftis9064
    @larryloftis9064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for the great review I just ordered the collar and thanks for the $100 discount. You blew my mind when you put the collar on yourself. That sold me lol

  • @pennywilken6833
    @pennywilken6833 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We are moving to a home with 4 acres and I have been researching invisible fences for our 2 pups. Your videos have been so helpful. I was set to buy a particular brand but after watching your videos, I have now decided to buy another brand. Thank you!

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful, thanks for letting us know. Good luck!

    • @ayoorad91
      @ayoorad91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which did you go with and did it work well?

    • @CloverPickingHarp
      @CloverPickingHarp ปีที่แล้ว

      What you buy?

    • @BellicIV
      @BellicIV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait what. Not sure if you’re for or against him.

  • @rhettcollins8682
    @rhettcollins8682 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a hoot. Love the facial pain displayed on level 10. Great review. I was going halo, not now. What about multiple dogs ? 😊

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your feedback. Multiple dogs need multiple collars unfortunately. I think there are multiple dog discounts sometimes.

    • @hungry_lama
      @hungry_lama 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you will set your dogs collar to 10?

    • @ar007r
      @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hungry_lama I dont see any problem with that why do you? If you are against shocking your dog then tell me what is wrong with having the first few perimeters set to have no shocks and then steadily increase them further out. The only way your dog gets any severe shock is if they are far outside the zone. If they get to level 10 shock then that assumes it is good that it was set up that way.

  • @SarahPerine
    @SarahPerine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s awesome that you made this video. I’m going to try it in myself too but maybe I won’t go over 5😹 thanks for being the Guinea pig!! I hate shock collars in general but after watching my livestock and dogs and coyotes respect my electric netting fences, I’m hoping this collar will only have to teach the dogs once. They really respect electric fences. And I get shocked by my electric gene es almost every day… it’s takes ver little in the way of volts to make a point.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for watching! Hope it works out for you and your pups.

  • @melindalopp6915
    @melindalopp6915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi! Great video! I can’t find the discount code that you mentioned?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you click the link in the video description it will be automatically applied - however, you have to actually head to the checkout page to see the coupon code and discount reflected. Hope this helps!

  • @PIndyJones
    @PIndyJones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this video because you recommended it in your Halo review which I searched for. In that halo review you showed how inaccurate it was with the boundary you set and the activation of the collar. This one you said was more accurate but I would have liked to see a similar video layout with your GPS on your phone on the screen for this product like you did for halo. How much more accurate to the boundary would you say this one is vs halo?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      We can't put a number on it at this time, but we will be doing some further testing and perhaps can try to include this.

  • @Zeb-zh4lh
    @Zeb-zh4lh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you recommend for smaller yards? My dogs have about .1 of an acre to play around. They seem to have enough space to run, but I’m afraid they will jump the fence to chase the neighbor’s cat. Thanks.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      An in-ground fence like Extreme Dog Fence or a wireless fence like PetSafe wireless would probably be the best bet for yards of that size.

  • @fZM0OY
    @fZM0OY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a way you can have some boundaries with static corrections and some without?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great question, we haven’t done that. I’m guessing not, but SpotOn would know best.

  • @ar007r
    @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering that you can have multiple fence perimeters can you set a different warning to each one? Ex. in the current demo you have 2 warnings before the correction shock. Can you make a few more layers of extended perimeters so that the static shock consistently increases in outside each one? If you train your dog then wouldnt there be no reason not to apply the most severe shock if they are far outside the initial zones? Theoretically they should never end up there anyway so why not set it all the way to maximum at an appropirate range?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. I don't believe they have that level of customization.

  • @jesusoftheapes
    @jesusoftheapes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about in a city yard? Are there any that are worth buying for in town in small yards?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Non-GPS systems potentially, like the PetSafe wireless or Extreme Dog Fence. They don't have as robust warning systems though.

  • @theloshea2501
    @theloshea2501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, can you tell me if the collar supported in Australia?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tough one, I don’t know for sure. I know it works in Canada according to SpotOn.

  • @resabyrd3994
    @resabyrd3994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can my hub and I both have the app & fence boundary synchronized on each of our phones?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think so, but we haven't tested. SpotOn should be able to answer with certainty.

  • @drec5174
    @drec5174 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should make a bigger collar option, my pup had a 26in neck at 13 months. Over 28 by 24 months. Mastiff breed.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could try reaching out to them, I’ve seen them make larger straps for particularly large pups in the past 🐶

  • @lindaitken3321
    @lindaitken3321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just spoke to someone at SpotOn and asked about the half acre minimum. What I was told during the discussion was that the position of the fence, as seen by the collar, could vary by as much as 10 ft during the course of the day. What has been your experience relative to this?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      We have yet to test with that precision, but I would imagine SpotOn’s recommendations of a 10 foot barrier to account for drift is a good rule of thumb.

    • @lindaitken3321
      @lindaitken3321 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePamperedPup Thank you.

  • @timson3489
    @timson3489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to see A Dog in action following the GPS fence rules

  • @TwoGuysTakeonRealEstate
    @TwoGuysTakeonRealEstate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It says $150 discount but it is only taking $100 off

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry about that, the discount changed from $150 to $100 when the price dropped from $1495 to $1295. Will update that in the description, the link should be updated already.

  • @michiganmanlost55
    @michiganmanlost55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before I buy a spoton can you tell me if you are compensated in any form from spoton fir your reviews?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you click through our affiliate links (for example, in our video description) and make a purchase, we may be eligible to earn a commission. We have affiliate relationships with SpotOn, Halo, Wagz, and other brands discussed in our videos.
      The price our viewers pay is unaffected. We appreciate our viewers’ support as it allows us keep making more videos, but if you don’t want us to be eligible for a commission, just don’t click our affiliate link 🙂

    • @jesusoftheapes
      @jesusoftheapes ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course hye is getting paid to say this review them. Why do it otherwise. If you are looking for a best system though the Spot on App is the best one on the market and the response they give on correction is the best out there. You can get this tech cheaper if you know where to look .

  • @winterveil
    @winterveil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any long term reliability / durability reviews on this? 1 yr warranty on a $1200 device is a tough pill to swallow...

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      We haven’t tested it that intensively for that long yet. Perhaps another user can chime in.

  • @lindaitken3321
    @lindaitken3321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscription? Hmmm. In addition to buying the unit one must have some kind of payments? How much is the subscription?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      SpotOn doesn’t require a subscription, but you can opt for a subscription to get escape notifications and low battery notifications.

    • @lindaitken3321
      @lindaitken3321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThePamperedPup Thank you for the clarification.

  • @timatao2525
    @timatao2525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the static continue once you go past the boundary?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good question, we haven’t tested but SpotOn can certainly answer. We’ll keep that in mind for future testing

    • @timatao2525
      @timatao2525 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePamperedPup Thanks!

  • @jdwhit_7380
    @jdwhit_7380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are the prongs irritating to your neck? DO you think they irritate the dog?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They aren’t too bad, probably best to take it off for sleep/comfort but should be fine while in use.

  • @markusedc1955
    @markusedc1955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you have less then half and acre?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question, SpotOn recommends more than a half an acre but we're going to test it on a smaller plot soon.
      Also, if you have partial fencing that can definitely help.

  • @kristenbifarella-vd7yb
    @kristenbifarella-vd7yb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is this only for yards over 1/2 acre?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what they recommend so that dogs have enough space to run around

  • @1990Jessy
    @1990Jessy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the spot on dog collar strap replaceable? Meaning if I get it while my dog is young and then it grows out of it can I switch it out the collar band?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great question. They don't advertise it as such, but I feel like if you reached out to customer service they'd be able to advise or help you out in some way.

    • @1990Jessy
      @1990Jessy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThePamperedPup I actually did call customer service and talk to them today. They have something that is called a collar kit or collar strap kit. It's called something along those lines. So the person I spoke with suggested that I get a large collar with a small strap kit. I would just put the large straps that come with the large collar up until needed. Then connect the small straps and it will equal out to a medium collar is what he told me so I put my order in. Hopefully it works out. I'll try to remember to update you if you'd like. Maybe this could be useful information for your channel. That's something I searched for when trying to make my decision on which collar to go with was if the dog collar will adjust with the dogs growth. So if it works out maybe you could throw the info in your videos for other people to know as well.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s awesome! Thanks so much for sharing, that’s great information. Certainly a good tip for future videos. Let us know how it works out!

    • @1990Jessy
      @1990Jessy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThePamperedPup Glad to help it anyway I can! It's stressful spending that much money and not knowing if it will fit them permanently! I went with spot on because you don't have to have that monthly subscription to use the fence. Even the cheapest subscription for the halo dog collar will still wind up costing more than spot on in the long run. Thank you for all the information you've shared! It has definitely helped us decide which collars are right for our dogs!

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a big decision! So glad to hear the videos were helpful. We’ll keep working at it! Thanks for your help and your feedback 🐶

  • @JC-bl9bo
    @JC-bl9bo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounded like an interesting idea but i don't think I could ever use this for my pup.

    • @ar007r
      @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน

      why? because you would rather your dog runs away then has shocks? You do realize they can handle the shocks better than we can right? Also, you can set multiple perimeters so there is little chance that they would ever get shocked. If you already have 3 perimeters of warnings before steadily increasing the shock then if they ever enter those zones and make it to level 10 you would probably be saving their lives at that point.

    • @JC-bl9bo
      @JC-bl9bo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ar007r relax, use it. It's not for me.

  • @kaykay0038
    @kaykay0038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dog is a 65 lb blue heeler, his neck fur is too thick 😩

    • @jesusoftheapes
      @jesusoftheapes ปีที่แล้ว

      not true. Blue heelers are not to hairy for shock collars . Samoyed Huskies use shock collars so your dog is not so special the equipment won't work. Why do people believe their dogs are so different than everyone else ? They are your buddy but they are just dogs in the end and not as special as you believe and most things made for all dogs will work for your dog too.

    • @allforfun16
      @allforfun16 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fur is not too thick. You just need the collar to be tighter.

  • @Emperfections
    @Emperfections 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But… can I use this on a little dog? Like a chihuahua? I’m a renter, with a HUGE backyard.. I want my pup to be able to enjoy my yard without having to use a leash..

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chihuahua might be a bit small. They should say the minimum weight and neck size somewhere.

    • @Emperfections
      @Emperfections 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePamperedPup thanks!!!! 🙂

  • @randalparks9368
    @randalparks9368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dependability on multiple collar control is unreliable for a training collar... efence function is fine...

  • @bonniezellers4691
    @bonniezellers4691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This might be a dumb question, but what happens when we all hop into the car and drive past the boundary?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would assume if you haven’t turned off the fences it would behave as programmed. Spoton could tell you for sure

    • @jesusoftheapes
      @jesusoftheapes ปีที่แล้ว

      why would they be wearing the spot on collar if you have them in the car? You only put the collar on when they go outside to potty . they do not wear it all day long.

  • @KolbyFrazierMCG
    @KolbyFrazierMCG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I pretty sure training could take 30 seconds with zero input from dad, my boy would ease up at 1 yellin

  • @19stacymoore
    @19stacymoore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What exactly does the gender of the dog have to do with anything?

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you referring to something said in this video?
      The only thing I can think of would be size, for male vs female of the same breed.

    • @19stacymoore
      @19stacymoore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThePamperedPup, no I wasn’t referring to an opinion; you were referring to the registration info for the dog. You said something like: name, size, type, “gender”. I was making a joke about our political climate. Everything got to do with gender and race.

    • @ThePamperedPup
      @ThePamperedPup  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha gotcha!

    • @ar007r
      @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gender effects the pain tolerance as well. But in terms of registering your dogs gender this is also because you are putting them into a system in case they did manage to run away. Then they could be more easily identified and returned. The political climate you refer to is more so that people would be angered that they asked about gender. We always identified gender in literally any type of situation like this because its one of the most significant variables for predicting human behaviors and outcomes. Only people who are in this cult ideology would get angered that Gender was asked so I think you have it backward.

  • @loneranger5349
    @loneranger5349 ปีที่แล้ว

    $1,300 only cost $30 to make in China fence is cheaper.

    • @sureshots8155
      @sureshots8155 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can’t fence off the minimum .5 acre for 1,300.

    • @JohnsonStobeck
      @JohnsonStobeck ปีที่แล้ว

      This post was already edited? Holy shit this is some horrible English

  • @loneranger5349
    @loneranger5349 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People need to know you have a naked neck am I suppose to shave my dogs neck. Most dogs have thick hair. These collars do not work on Akitas. If I tighten the collar it creates sores from the rubbing.

    • @catsincredulous9998
      @catsincredulous9998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come on. Shave the dogs neck? Lol

    • @moehio
      @moehio ปีที่แล้ว

      It will work on any dog. And you don't leave the collar on all day, it's for play or poop time.

  • @tonimathias-grumley6631
    @tonimathias-grumley6631 ปีที่แล้ว

    $1300?? nope.

  • @z0sicktanner619
    @z0sicktanner619 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pure garbage. Went through 3 collars all lost singal wouldn't work at all.

    • @ar007r
      @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does regular GPS work where you are using it? Some locations struggle with gps signal which has nothign to do with the quality of the GPS. If it was bad weather or heavy tree cover than that is not a reflection of the product just a reality of the technology. Even my fenix 6 gps watch struggles to get a signal when I am in the mountains, thats how gps works. I am just curious because I want to actually guage if it is a poor gps unit or if you werent aware of how to use the technology realistically?

  • @jaywyche416
    @jaywyche416 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you like to have one around your neck.plz don't put this on any dog.

    • @triciamberry
      @triciamberry ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, what’s worse- my dog getting a little warning or static and staying in bounds? Or escaping my fencing for the millionth time and being hit by a car?!

    • @moehio
      @moehio ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Once the dog is trained it's a non-issue. Dogs are not humans... try not to be so daft.

    • @ar007r
      @ar007r หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats like saying you would rather your dog die than wear a collar. Dogs dont feel the shock at the same level as humans thats why they ask the breed, gender, and weight etc. It is not cruel in any way. Do you yell at your child if they try to run on the street or does upsetting them to stop them from hurting themselves qualify as abusive to you? Did you not see that the shocks are optional which I think is also silly. To me there is zero logical reason you wouldnt have the shock set at maximum. You can have 2-3 perimeters that are just warnings and then increase the perimeter for each shock level until you are at the maximum. If your dog ever got to that point then there is a good chance you would never see them again if you didnt do this. This is the type of nonsense that creates dangerous dogs to begin with. When you train a dog it is required that you use physical force the same way it is required for the proper socialization with human babies. The only people who are angered by that are ignorant people who misinterpret the meaning which is supsicious because it indicates that you worry about your own ability to constrain your emotions when applying force. When behavioral scientists, such as myself, are referring to this it is in the obvious context of proportional minimal force. For a dog you have to at minimum match their aggression if you are to ever train it out of them. If you do it properly from a young age this means far less force will be required. If you are dealing with an agressive older dog that was not socialized properly then the amount of force needed would also be significantly higher. With children, infants for example, this could mean continuing to put them down in the crib when they refuse to sleep and stand up until they tire and go to sleep. In that example you are using force slightly higher than their own which is obviously extremely minimal. Not doing these things is the actual cruelty because you are setting up that animal/person for a much harder time down the road and far more potential for trauma. The reason comments like yours are disturbing and suspicious, outside of not understanding basic behavioral development and psychology, is that it seems to suggest that your fear of using force stems from your own fears that you are unable to control yourself. This is why people will accuse others of abuse even though they are applying these thigns correctly. They inherenetly and automatically jump to that conclusion because of projection and this is obvious because why else would you jump there and not assume the basic principles that I just explained? That means you are unaware of them (a sign of your own psychological state), or that you fear others are acting like you would if you didnt fully refrain entirely like you claim to do. The literature around this topic is very clear and to any competent behavioral scientist it is a red flag. Outside of that it could have just been a dumb comment that you dont actually do in real life and are just saying this because you are higher in neuroticism or simply virtue signalling.