That may indeed by a good kit. However when you start working with proprietary stuff, the cost rises exponentially. Every stage you went through can be done with off the shelf universal supplies and 1/5th the price. Pferd does make good stuff, but I try hard to avoid proprietary things like sanding pads when reliable alternatives are available.
Of course, the special backing pad definitely locks you into the PFERD brand. But I’ve not been able to find something that’ll let you grind so flat. Price always becomes an issue but certain jobs demand a certain type of product. Thanks for watching!
The other benefit of using this type of flat disc system without a center nut is reduced dishing. It helps produce a much flatter (I.e. less scalloped) surface, which is critical when polishing to a reflective finish.
I love your tool tip videos. You and Pferd have a good thing going. They make really great products and you show why they are great products. I've already bought a bunch of stuff you've shown in these videos.
Very nice and very useful video today Chris. Thanks. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
That is an amazing system! I really appreciate you sharing products like this! With limited shop time this is a big time saver! The mirror polish on the stainless was great!
I really enjoy your presentations. I just started welding this past year (I’m in school to learn how) and I look forward to having a career as a welder so I’m definitely going to have to get one of these sets. Thank you Chris and good job!
My name is Jesse I work at Nasco General Dynamics I am in the paint department so that requires me to do a lot of mechanical cleaning which is also known as grinding and in relation where we're talking about was a 36th grade that's also called sp11 normally use for the main Wells and other surfaces and other parts of the vessel from the walls to deck or the floor when it comes to the burns from welding when you will on top of a material and the Heat transfers over and burns the epoxy and we got to get rid of that burn to a smooth finish and preparation for pain so that's who I am and that's what I do and thank you for the knowledge
Great review, Chris! Takes the mystery out of metal finishing, to be sure. Unrelated query: what’s the story/provenance behind your pre-1959, 48-star American flag? It’s a beauty! I recently found a slightly larger, MUCH more moth-eaten “camp flag” of the same vintage, complete with a 2-piece, 12 foot tall x 1½” oak mast. I know very little of its history; it was inside the attic crawl space of a long-vacant doctor’s office, behind a knee wall. I’ve contacted the doctor’s surviving family, but they aren’t very interested in having it, and without any historical background, the local historical society and museum isn’t interested either. Sooo, I guess I now have a nice old piece for my shop, too! 🇺🇸👍
That's one of the biggest complaints I represented to my boss and when he asked me why are you somebody disk or simple you can only use this much of a dish you can't use the rest because you have the dimple that's exposed this kid this friend is quite efficient and you're able to take advantage of the whole entire disc medium and material you're trying to grind I'm actually going to buy this and represent this to my boss and say Hey you know this is a better way to go thank you for the recommendation I really like this kit and bran and I'll be looking for watching more videos of you doing what you do best
Note don't use disc that have been used mild steel on stainless steel. It will make the stainless get rust pits where the mild steel from grinding inbeds itself into the stainless Note 2 using an air filter table for safety...while using a grinder without a guard...
Thanks for the tip on not mixing discs between stainless and mild steel. I don't think the risk is the same using this sanding and polishing setup as it is using something like a cutoff wheel. Plus the guard would interfere with that shallow of a grinding angle.
You probably should have mentioned the importance of wearing a good respirator, especially for grinding, welding, or sanding stainless. These processes liberate hexavalent chromium from stainless steel, which will eventually kill you if it gets into your body, and fine dusts are the worst. You should also wash your hands after exposure, and if safe with the machines you're using, wear gloves, as it can also sensitize skin for dermatitis.
I too was scrolling the comments for an answer about the rust once it's polished, I know of Tru blu, a bluing liquid that gives the steel that gun metal color and can protect it from rust, but im unsure of the longevity of it. Did you find an answer to your question about the rust? If so I'd love to hear it
@@michaelwhite5314 I have had success bluing small parts with motor oil. Heat them to about 700 degrees and drop them in the oil. Pretty easy and good results. Have not tried it with larger pieces yet....I have a clutch fork for a 46 Harley foot clutch that polished up so nice, but is hard to keep waxed up, I may try this method.....clear coating just comes with its own problems....good luck
@@sidforbrains6552 thank you! I would attempt to hot blu my project but it's about 500 pounds too heavy and too large to heat evenly. If I had another one I would attempt to hot blu it in sections to give it some visual character, but I haven't been metal working long enough to know when it's been properly blued, I'd hate for the areas between to rust
I use the duel grit flapper u demoed by prferd on another vid they are far from cheep but they do a fantastic job in just one or two steps with no messy buffing
As always awesome review and another great product. The only thing that sucks is by the time I get your content and then go to buy using your link it’s always unavailable The price you pay living in Australia.Anyway thanks for sharing love your channel and the awesome products you review stay safe and looking forward to your next one
You know I really like this kit not so much for polishing which is good for that too but I like the fact how you talk about how you know like on a standard grinder that's the biggest complaint I have at work where you only use an inch or an inch and a quarter or maybe an inch and a half or almost two inch depending if you're using 7-in sanding disc 36 crit for Feathering ordering 4-in disc for you know heavy grinding
This was really helpful. I have a brushed 18/10 stainless item that I need to mirror polish and this would be a good opportunity to experiment with one of these kits. I see that they have a 2.5” kit. Do you know of a suitable small variable speed grinder? My regular grinder would be overkill for the sort of pieces I’d likely work on, and the smaller disks are much less expensive.
Chris I love your channel and I know you gotta make living and I don't even mind that you're sponsored by Pferd (they make great products), but it'd be nice to show us how to get the same results without buying Pferd products. They don't even sell them where I live.
He definitely showed how to get those results with cheaper more available products. Get whats available locally in the same grits and similar products and i think you coud get the same results. The more expensive system just makes it faster to change pads.
I really Enjoy watching your videos and aspire to one day have the skills to make some cool stuff...lol! Thanks for your time and effort
This was a great video to learn about a new type of tool (which I'll now order), but also the 'how to' - thank you for posting!
Very intriguing, I've never seen this product line before. I like the idea of the starter kit.
That may indeed by a good kit. However when you start working with proprietary stuff, the cost rises exponentially. Every stage you went through can be done with off the shelf universal supplies and 1/5th the price. Pferd does make good stuff, but I try hard to avoid proprietary things like sanding pads when reliable alternatives are available.
Of course, the special backing pad definitely locks you into the PFERD brand. But I’ve not been able to find something that’ll let you grind so flat. Price always becomes an issue but certain jobs demand a certain type of product. Thanks for watching!
The other benefit of using this type of flat disc system without a center nut is reduced dishing. It helps produce a much flatter (I.e. less scalloped) surface, which is critical when polishing to a reflective finish.
I love your tool tip videos. You and Pferd have a good thing going. They make really great products and you show why they are great products. I've already bought a bunch of stuff you've shown in these videos.
I really like the kit and the twist off/on, so I ordered one. Thanks for sharing and demonstrating.
Very nice and very useful video today Chris. Thanks. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
That is an amazing system! I really appreciate you sharing products like this! With limited shop time this is a big time saver! The mirror polish on the stainless was great!
You might know how to polish steel... but what about steel from poland?
What kinda vise is that? Holds by a cam action I assume?
I can see the reflection all the way from my shop here in Maryland!🤣👍🏻
I like that grinding table!
I really enjoy your presentations. I just started welding this past year (I’m in school to learn how) and I look forward to having a career as a welder so I’m definitely going to have to get one of these sets. Thank you Chris and good job!
I have this same kit collecting dust on a shelf I’m going to bust it out this weekend.
It would be nice to see how you grind and polish the inside corners. Do you use the same disks? Or, do you use different disks?
Bob
That would interest me too, Chris. 👍
Smoother than a school Marm’s elbo! Great 👍
Thinking about doing this on a rigid chopper frame.
I like the quick change feature, but I already have 5 grinders dedicated to different tasks 😅
Just bought this set. It’s great but tight on the lock/unlock action. Hopefully it relaxes with a bit of use!
Great video! Thanks.
My name is Jesse I work at Nasco General Dynamics I am in the paint department so that requires me to do a lot of mechanical cleaning which is also known as grinding and in relation where we're talking about was a 36th grade that's also called sp11 normally use for the main Wells and other surfaces and other parts of the vessel from the walls to deck or the floor when it comes to the burns from welding when you will on top of a material and the Heat transfers over and burns the epoxy and we got to get rid of that burn to a smooth finish and preparation for pain so that's who I am and that's what I do and thank you for the knowledge
Do you have links to the locking disc fixing pad.
Question. How would you go about mirror polishing some Kraft steel dumbells
What kind of vise is that you are using on the down draft table?
Very informative video. Thank you!
What vice are you using in this video?
Thanks for the video.
Crazy how shiny it can get. How many mm or thou does all this sanding and polishing take off?
That’s a good question… I should do some measuring before and after and figure it out!
@@MakeEverything curious to hear your findings! Like I doubt it's enough to be a structural issue or anything, but I do wonder how much it is.
As always, great video and info.
Tell me about your horizontal quick release vice.
I have a steering system which has gotten rough where the o-rings seal and being able to polish the metal to smooth the re-assemble would be epic.
Great review, Chris! Takes the mystery out of metal finishing, to be sure. Unrelated query: what’s the story/provenance behind your pre-1959, 48-star American flag? It’s a beauty! I recently found a slightly larger, MUCH more moth-eaten “camp flag” of the same vintage, complete with a 2-piece, 12 foot tall x 1½” oak mast. I know very little of its history; it was inside the attic crawl space of a long-vacant doctor’s office, behind a knee wall. I’ve contacted the doctor’s surviving family, but they aren’t very interested in having it, and without any historical background, the local historical society and museum isn’t interested either. Sooo, I guess I now have a nice old piece for my shop, too! 🇺🇸👍
That's one of the biggest complaints I represented to my boss and when he asked me why are you somebody disk or simple you can only use this much of a dish you can't use the rest because you have the dimple that's exposed this kid this friend is quite efficient and you're able to take advantage of the whole entire disc medium and material you're trying to grind I'm actually going to buy this and represent this to my boss and say Hey you know this is a better way to go thank you for the recommendation I really like this kit and bran and I'll be looking for watching more videos of you doing what you do best
Note don't use disc that have been used mild steel on stainless steel. It will make the stainless get rust pits where the mild steel from grinding inbeds itself into the stainless
Note 2 using an air filter table for safety...while using a grinder without a guard...
Thanks for the tip on not mixing discs between stainless and mild steel. I don't think the risk is the same using this sanding and polishing setup as it is using something like a cutoff wheel. Plus the guard would interfere with that shallow of a grinding angle.
Thank you for the info well done
Is it safe to use this without a guard?
Could a person bring mild steel to a mirror finish and then paint with clear coat?
Love this
very nice👍👍
Good video! thanks
You probably should have mentioned the importance of wearing a good respirator, especially for grinding, welding, or sanding stainless. These processes liberate hexavalent chromium from stainless steel, which will eventually kill you if it gets into your body, and fine dusts are the worst. You should also wash your hands after exposure, and if safe with the machines you're using, wear gloves, as it can also sensitize skin for dermatitis.
what do you do to prevent rust? Thanks for the video
I too was scrolling the comments for an answer about the rust once it's polished, I know of Tru blu, a bluing liquid that gives the steel that gun metal color and can protect it from rust, but im unsure of the longevity of it. Did you find an answer to your question about the rust? If so I'd love to hear it
@@michaelwhite5314 I have had success bluing small parts with motor oil. Heat them to about 700 degrees and drop them in the oil. Pretty easy and good results. Have not tried it with larger pieces yet....I have a clutch fork for a 46 Harley foot clutch that polished up so nice, but is hard to keep waxed up, I may try this method.....clear coating just comes with its own problems....good luck
@@sidforbrains6552 thank you! I would attempt to hot blu my project but it's about 500 pounds too heavy and too large to heat evenly. If I had another one I would attempt to hot blu it in sections to give it some visual character, but I haven't been metal working long enough to know when it's been properly blued, I'd hate for the areas between to rust
I use the duel grit flapper u demoed by prferd on another vid they are far from cheep but they do a fantastic job in just one or two steps with no messy buffing
Nice video, can you do a video polishing inside corners?
As always awesome review and another great product. The only thing that sucks is by the time I get your content and then go to buy using your link it’s always unavailable The price you pay living in Australia.Anyway thanks for sharing love your channel and the awesome products you review stay safe and looking forward to your next one
Nice kit
You know I really like this kit not so much for polishing which is good for that too but I like the fact how you talk about how you know like on a standard grinder that's the biggest complaint I have at work where you only use an inch or an inch and a quarter or maybe an inch and a half or almost two inch depending if you're using 7-in sanding disc 36 crit for Feathering ordering 4-in disc for you know heavy grinding
Drooling!!!
What vise is that?
This is a cam lock machinist vise. I got it at an auction but you can find them on eBay pretty regularly. It’s great!
This was really helpful. I have a brushed 18/10 stainless item that I need to mirror polish and this would be a good opportunity to experiment with one of these kits. I see that they have a 2.5” kit. Do you know of a suitable small variable speed grinder? My regular grinder would be overkill for the sort of pieces I’d likely work on, and the smaller disks are much less expensive.
Chris I love your channel and I know you gotta make living and I don't even mind that you're sponsored by Pferd (they make great products), but it'd be nice to show us how to get the same results without buying Pferd products. They don't even sell them where I live.
I totally get it, in this instance the PFERD product is very unique to their company…
He definitely showed how to get those results with cheaper more available products. Get whats available locally in the same grits and similar products and i think you coud get the same results. The more expensive system just makes it faster to change pads.
Interesting...
You are getting a lot of edge marks in the job.
Try using the pads dead flat.
They are obviously designed to be used flat....
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