good point on the whole take back for keeping racket (relatively) open at contact. I found it much easier to just go the Zverev route, and convert by bh grip on the top hand (from conventional continental to top hand eastern). Opens the face up more naturally for me.
Great points. All super important and helpful. I'd like to point out the distance he maintains between his elbows and his body. There is air there. Check especially on the finish that his right elbow ends at a right angle to his body. Do that and you naturally get body/shoulder rotation and low to high trajectory.
Great analysis. Just notice Djokovich also turns his left shoulder up when he hit backbands, that it appears to be over his right shoulder. I’m wondering if there is a reason for that and if that is important?
How does that racquet going to slot position? Is it by product of loss’s grip or he is straightening of the left hand make one that racquet goes to slot position? Thank you good bideot
It’s so interesting to me how open his hips are to get the racket in the slot. I have been hitting with hips more closed but because I’m able to get the half v position up high still able to get a deep backhand. How important is it to copy Djokovic’s hip movement? You did mention manually getting in the slot. Is it okay to manually get in the slot with closed hips? Thank you Ryan!
Not all backhands are the same, he can change the start and the finish depending on speed height angle and so on, but it’s a good general view of one of the best backhands on tour, thanks!
I love Vic Braden. He was so innovative.! Something that I always do and I developed my own variations ,implementing the kinesthetic methods. Similar to these explanations mostly for kids I use the similarities bt a sword and a racquet when the racquet drops on the slot / gravity ,hips rotation / and also the analogy of left and right wrist sync which is one of the biggest challenges for most players. Right wrist creates a goose bump and the role of the wrist in the sequence allowing the left one to take over(like in marriage ..the wife..ha..)and becoming the dominant one while the right being bent allows the rotation of the left wrist (if not you feel how the racquet doesn't drop) and only at POC doesn't allow a wobbling motion. Is a lot more to say.. but any beginner will understand these terms pretty easily. Usually my students ,applying these concepts plus the kinesthetic and hand guidance/etc.. get a sound and consistent 2HBH in less than 2 months. I found that the 2HBH is the easiest shot to teach...using all the proper methods: stabilizing the wrist /balance / making left hand dominant .etc. No one should have a weak BH if they take lessons. Problem...to many pro's who have no idea how to teach ! Honestly, and have seen it so many times...to many of my students unfortunately after years of lessons , come to me and I am speechless listening what they tell me. Don't forget the wall !!! After mastering it, he will develop it in a fearless weapon!!!
When the racket drops and he “sets” the right wrist in that Bent (flexed / bowed as golfers say), does he maintain that same level of right wrist flexion through the swing? Is there no release at all of that angle? Or is he more radially deviating the right wrist (hinging it up from ulnar deviation)?
Ryan it looks to me as though this is not a topspin backhand but a backhand that's flat or imparts some slight underspin. From the point of impact the racket face is open (the hitting side of the racket points to the sky at the end of the stroke). It looks like a double-handed version of the classic Ken Rosewall backhand hit from hit level (not a slice). Do you think that's right?
love it! Thanks for highlighting this Ryan! I've been struggling with my 2 handed backhand for some time...it's actually my confidence of hitting it. I find myself resorting to the one handed backhand slice rather than going after the 2 handed backhand like djokovic here especially during clutch moments. Im seeing how it limits myself from just resorting to that slice. Do you have a video of how to overcome the fear of not going for the 2 handed backhand and resorting to the slice? How do i break that habbit in my mind on clutch moments? Thanks Ryan for all you do!
You are exactly like me. Playing tennis after 10 years and my back-hand was my best weapon, now i am insecure and do a safe 1-handed slice with less power
Does the constant angle on the left wrist position make the shot accurate just because it makes for stability? Also, what do you think of Nadal's backhand? I love the short, wide angle he hits with a lot of speed after a short ball. I wonder how much more we'll see of it though with all that foot trouble. Love your analysis of Djokovic backhand, especially from that angle - much easier to understand than others I've seen from different angle. Seems like his has the most elements to emulate.
Great video. However, it is interesting how many different ways top pros can do things differently. This video is a total contrast to how Zverev talks about hitting his backhand. He specifically talks about being "wristy" with his left hand. He says when he wants to be more consistent he actually focuses on hitting a lefty forehand with extra wrist motion for top spin. Novak's backhand is so clean and no doubt his finish on the left side of the V will yield less errors, but that may result in a stiff backhand for mere mortals.
He doesn’t finish that high normally. He hit that ball late and too close to his body . Plus look at how he “shoveled “ the racket which is not his “Normal” racket swing path. Taking one sample isn’t usually the best example. That’s why one should eat about 10 cookies from the package as a better sample than just one. Ha ha
@@2MinuteTennis Em didn't claim you only watched one backhand. Rather, you showed backhands that Em suspects don't have the regular swing path. we are sure you watch stacks of video, hence the huge output on this channel. thanks for producing great content.
Left arm is straight, right elbow slightly bent, and extend up and out for depth if I’m not mistaken. Notice the finish. It does not wrap around which makes for a more shallow ball.
Vic Braden was more than 40 years ahead of his time. He already explained exactly these points in the 80s. Ryan, your tips are really great but you should point out that your videos are the result of Vic Braden 's research.
I’ve never pretended that I didn’t get my info from Braden. I was trained by a Braden coach. I bring up Braden often in my videos. If you’re trying to suggest that I’m trying to “steal” bradens info ans pass it off as my own then You don’t know me very well. Which you don’t.
Listen to this podcast from 55 minutes - 60 minutes. Steve smith applaudes me for crediting Vic in my videos. open.spotify.com/episode/0sHhqewzJGNI5eu8lNX9vS?si=qAbr3iGnQ4qQXYBM7w8KCQ&dl_branch=1
I was trained personally by Vic Braden and I also know Steve Smith. Vic would be happy to have his research shared. But he would also expect this to be clearly pointed out in your videos and on your website. Unfortunately you ' re not doing this enough.
@@dietrichpeter3839 pla·gia·rism /ˈplājəˌrizəm/. the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. If that doesn't settle it, we should agree to disagree without being disagreeable.
good point on the whole take back for keeping racket (relatively) open at contact. I found it much easier to just go the Zverev route, and convert by bh grip on the top hand (from conventional continental to top hand eastern). Opens the face up more naturally for me.
This was super helpful, thank you. I was struggling with my back hand, this V tip seems to work so far.
My doubles team all loves you! Everyone shares your videos!
Wow thank you so much!!! That is so nice of you to tel me. Have an amazing week Ginny! You go this! And so does your team…😊
You are killing it Ryan - love your breakdown of the Novak backhand - will put to use - just as I have your right on serve technique!
Wow thank you Jim!! So glad you like the videos I’m making. Good luck!
Great points. All super important and helpful. I'd like to point out the distance he maintains between his elbows and his body. There is air there. Check especially on the finish that his right elbow ends at a right angle to his body. Do that and you naturally get body/shoulder rotation and low to high trajectory.
Absolutely correct. Thanks for the comment!
Great analysis. Just notice Djokovich also turns his left shoulder up when he hit backbands, that it appears to be over his right shoulder. I’m wondering if there is a reason for that and if that is important?
How does that racquet going to slot position? Is it by product of loss’s grip or he is straightening of the left hand make one that racquet goes to slot position? Thank you good bideot
Really helpful as always
Great instructions!
It’s so interesting to me how open his hips are to get the racket in the slot. I have been hitting with hips more closed but because I’m able to get the half v position up high still able to get a deep backhand. How important is it to copy Djokovic’s hip movement? You did mention manually getting in the slot. Is it okay to manually get in the slot with closed hips? Thank you Ryan!
Not all backhands are the same, he can change the start and the finish depending on speed height angle and so on, but it’s a good general view of one of the best backhands on tour, thanks!
100% agree with you. Thanks!
I love Vic Braden. He was so innovative.! Something that I always do and I developed my own variations ,implementing the kinesthetic methods. Similar to these explanations mostly for kids I use the similarities bt a sword and a racquet when the racquet drops on the slot / gravity ,hips rotation / and also the analogy of left and right wrist sync which is one of the biggest challenges for most players. Right wrist creates a goose bump and the role of the wrist in the sequence allowing the left one to take over(like in marriage ..the wife..ha..)and becoming the dominant one while the right being bent allows the rotation of the left wrist (if not you feel how the racquet doesn't drop) and only at POC doesn't allow a wobbling motion. Is a lot more to say.. but any beginner will understand these terms pretty easily. Usually my students ,applying these concepts plus the kinesthetic and hand guidance/etc.. get a sound and consistent 2HBH in less than 2 months. I found that the 2HBH is the easiest shot to teach...using all the proper methods: stabilizing the wrist /balance / making left hand dominant .etc. No one should have a weak BH if they take lessons. Problem...to many pro's who have no idea how to teach ! Honestly, and have seen it so many times...to many of my students unfortunately after years of lessons , come to me and I am speechless listening what they tell me. Don't forget the wall !!! After mastering it, he will develop it in a fearless weapon!!!
When the racket drops and he “sets” the right wrist in that Bent (flexed / bowed as golfers say), does he maintain that same level of right wrist flexion through the swing? Is there no release at all of that angle?
Or is he more radially deviating the right wrist (hinging it up from ulnar deviation)?
Ryan it looks to me as though this is not a topspin backhand but a backhand that's flat or imparts some slight underspin. From the point of impact the racket face is open (the hitting side of the racket points to the sky at the end of the stroke). It looks like a double-handed version of the classic Ken Rosewall backhand hit from hit level (not a slice). Do you think that's right?
This is topspin. He hits most of his backhands this way. The racket is open after he hits. This isn’t a flat or underspin backhand.
love it! Thanks for highlighting this Ryan! I've been struggling with my 2 handed backhand for some time...it's actually my confidence of hitting it. I find myself resorting to the one handed backhand slice rather than going after the 2 handed backhand like djokovic here especially during clutch moments. Im seeing how it limits myself from just resorting to that slice. Do you have a video of how to overcome the fear of not going for the 2 handed backhand and resorting to the slice? How do i break that habbit in my mind on clutch moments? Thanks Ryan for all you do!
I do exactly the same. Hesitant on going for the 2 hander and resort to the slice!!
You are exactly like me. Playing tennis after 10 years and my back-hand was my best weapon, now i am insecure and do a safe 1-handed slice with less power
Does the constant angle on the left wrist position make the shot accurate just because it makes for stability? Also, what do you think of Nadal's backhand? I love the short, wide angle he hits with a lot of speed after a short ball. I wonder how much more we'll see of it though with all that foot trouble. Love your analysis of Djokovic backhand, especially from that angle - much easier to understand than others I've seen from different angle. Seems like his has the most elements to emulate.
Is the reason he keeps the strings down a function of his grip?
What’s the best way to describe his extension? Like how much does he extend?
How to deal with high balls BH. Please?
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Great video. However, it is interesting how many different ways top pros can do things differently. This video is a total contrast to how Zverev talks about hitting his backhand. He specifically talks about being
"wristy" with his left hand. He says when he wants to be more consistent he actually focuses on hitting a lefty forehand with extra wrist motion for top spin. Novak's backhand is so clean and no doubt his finish on the left side of the V will yield less errors, but that may result in a stiff backhand for mere mortals.
What type of grip is he using?
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my coach says: "The drop is gonna will make your ball short"
Sometimes yes and sometimes no
I guess there are 3 down-voter who have better backhand then Djokovich? 🤪
He doesn’t finish that high normally. He hit that ball late and too close to his body . Plus look at how he “shoveled “ the racket which is not his “Normal” racket swing path. Taking one sample isn’t usually the best example. That’s why one should eat about 10 cookies from the package as a better sample than just one. Ha ha
Do you think I watched one backhand only?
@@2MinuteTennis Em didn't claim you only watched one backhand. Rather, you showed backhands that Em suspects don't have the regular swing path. we are sure you watch stacks of video, hence the huge output on this channel. thanks for producing great content.
He always finishes behind his head. The only way to get there is to go up high.
@@2MinuteTennisRyan, you have transformed my backhand! Thank you!!💕
Most weaker club players I see fail to extend through the shot, their follow through is too abbreviated
Left arm is straight, right elbow slightly bent, and extend up and out for depth if I’m not mistaken. Notice the finish. It does not wrap around which makes for a more shallow ball.
too much talking ...&
no word about feet position 🤔🤔🤔
Vic Braden was more than 40 years ahead of his time. He already explained exactly these points in the 80s. Ryan, your tips are really great but you should point out that your videos are the result of Vic Braden 's research.
I’ve never pretended that I didn’t get my info from Braden. I was trained by a Braden coach. I bring up Braden often in my videos. If you’re trying to suggest that I’m trying to “steal” bradens info ans pass it off as my own then You don’t know me very well. Which you don’t.
Listen to this podcast from 55 minutes - 60 minutes. Steve smith applaudes me for crediting Vic in my videos. open.spotify.com/episode/0sHhqewzJGNI5eu8lNX9vS?si=qAbr3iGnQ4qQXYBM7w8KCQ&dl_branch=1
I was trained personally by Vic Braden and I also know Steve Smith. Vic would be happy to have his research shared. But he would also expect this to be clearly pointed out in your videos and on your website. Unfortunately you ' re not doing this enough.
Without a clear reference to Vic Braden, your (great) videos are plagiarism.
@@dietrichpeter3839 pla·gia·rism
/ˈplājəˌrizəm/. the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
If that doesn't settle it, we should agree to disagree without being disagreeable.