There is a pretty strong pitch change when you select the first stage of flaps, that’s realistic. We use to train the pilots to anticipate this by judicious use of elevator trim. After some practice it became second nature and nothing was felt by the passengers. The autopilot on the other hand could not anticipate flap selection so it was slow to react. Again most DC-9 pilots flew the aircraft manually except for cruise and low visibility approach such as CATII, however it was customary to configure the aircraft whilst flying manually and the engage the autopilot for the ILS approach. Flying the DC-9 was more of an art than a science but it was so enjoyable! Hopefully this model will get refined so that one day it will be enjoyable as well, it seems at least that the Devs are making an effort to improve it based on user’s feedback, good on them
@340ACP thanks foe this feedback!! This is exactly what I needed to hear. Good to hear then that the big pitch up movement is realistic and that the real life pilots would simply work around this issue at that time. Yes looking forward to more updates and better sounds once more things are ironed out
This is looking like I'll be beginning to think about making a purchase! A 8.33kHz radio option and some kind of gps option for vatsim would be on my wishlist.
I flew the DC-9 for thousands of hours at a carrier overseas. One thing about the autopilot in the real aircraft, we only ever used it for altitude hold, the turn knob, and the vertical speed wheel. Every other mode was an absolute mess.
@@PeterMatthess As @340ACP said, flying the DC-9 is more of an art. You strap the jet to your hands with the big turn-knob wheel and the vertical speed wheel, much like riding a motorcycle and that’s it. Everything else feels aggressive, jittery, and useless. It’s a jet you fly purely by feel. The developer can make this a great airplane by partnering with third-party audio companies to enhance the sounds and improving the graphics and every small detail. This aircraft is all about nostalgia and memories, especially when experienced in VR
@josea.8790 that's good to know and member as a baseline for how it should behave in the air. Tell me, did it have that 'wobble motion' feel to it that is present in this flight model?
Couple of notes for ye, 1... for takeoff, on your balance sheet it was showing 22.5 % of CG, that would make something like 3.5 trim setting, also the plane rotated too quickly as you need to set the proper EPR for takeoff, use your EPR computer and see what FL/TO gives.... that is Flex Takeoff. Secondly your interception of the LOC beam for the ILS was done at 90 deg and 180 KTS, the Sperry is capable of doing it, but you need to do it at a lower speed, proper capture should be done at about 45 deg or less for the Sperry to capture without having to make rushed corrections. I will add a third point, Climbs and descents can and better be done using your IAS/MACH hold with the "pitch mode" knob, you climb and descend using your power setting, there is no need to constantly use the VS wheel, use it when you are approaching your cruise altitude or leveling off. The DC-9 was perfectly capable of keeping leveled flight by doing proper power settings.
thanks for those points, where you a DC-9 pilot? I'll have to circle back on the correct CG settings and thrust settings for takeoff, and learn that EPR computer. I was aware that I was trying to engage the LOC quite aggressively, as you can see I really wasn't bothered too much if I did it correctly, for the sake of the video I wanted to see it do SOMETHING. So it was more about how the AP handled being thrown about at that stage. But I was glad to see at least it did its best to hold the LOC and it WAS holding the glide until I added flaps.
Amazing update , in navigation maters I have to say that the rmi looks mirrored and sometimes CM1 rmi shows single needle when the knob assigned is the doble needle. About autopilot , if you fly on nav cap,then change to hdg sel on, and then off, if you select nav again it won’t capture it even if it says nav cap, the easy and fast way to resolve this is to change the knob to ILS and back to Nav. Heading selector pixel from default cockpit cm1 view it’s tricky to actuate it without moving the camera (specially a pity when got to do it fast ) sometimes you change the turn knob or hide cm2 yoke. Idk if this is IRL but if you empty the center tank engines will shutdown even if wing tanks are full and fuel xfeed on ( it is required to consume the fuel from wings first and end with central tanks) Stall warning does not sound when testing as well as gear horn or some fire tests Auto pilot individual axis servos (RUD/ELEV/AIL) are interfering with the AP servo , for the autopilot to work properly it is required to have them off (or down position , idk if that’s on or off) TOWS will sound on takeoff run if you yoke into the wind in crosswind takeoff (idk if this is IRL but yoke into the wind on takeoff is pretty common and getting a TOWS on that is kinda scary) Windshield wipers knob “park” position is useless since stop position does not stop the wiper anywhere but in the down position ,thus park function of downing them does never apply even if it is selectable on the knob. If I use EPR to RAT instrument for T/O , climb or cruise the values suggested does not correspond to the performance of the model, it usually turns over speeding if following it. (It would be amazing to include graphs and tables regarding power settings EPR as well as fuel consumption in the manual or documentation for our calculations) At the end, I have flown it on IVAO, still buggy on minor things , specially difficult when autopilot goes crazy, but all that said this aircraft is flyable and enjoyable, trains your hand as a pilot and navigator. Incredible job, specially appreciate the work on updating and perfectioning of the model and the interest on community feedback,these are the things that gives a brand it’s name and quality. Keep it on ;)
Thanks for your feedback, I'll send it to the dev now. I'm not the dev at all, I'm just a random youtuber who the dev somehow decided to start sending his test builds to!! And I know how much people want to see this aircraft improved, myself included. These are excellent points, and not points I have personally come across yet in this addon, so I'll pass them along.
Definitely going to pick this up once the update comes out. I do wish that the DME readout would be fixed, I can see that getting confusing under pressure. Picking up icing with the A/I on looks like it's not working, even the DC6 wouldn't pick up ice going through a cloud like that with the systems on. The top line on the trim page is your CG value, you can find that by tracing down from the TOW marker on the weight and balance chart above it The green band on the trim should only be for setting takeoff trim, being able to trim out of it doesn't seem like an issue but I'm not a DC9 pilot so not completely sure I think pressing the gear warning cutoff to the right of the glare shield will turn off the terrain warnings
i think this will be a great addon It's easier to talk without to know... than to understand things ,It's not by criticizing that you improve something ...respect alway for the work of this dev , and then anyone who criticizes a newly released addon without trying it after the updates doesn't understand anything
Hi all. Balooning hapens always on all planes when selecting flaps, particulary at high speeds, that's why we have the tables to discount the fuel burned out along the route so the correct speeds for selecting flaps. If you are comming in too fast and select slats down and deployed, the wing increases the lift force hence balooning so the subsecuent flap settings, although the AP is not too accurate, it exhibits some balooning but is less pronounced at the correct speed, enough for the AP to have the chance to change the trim slightly and maintain altitude. The pitot tubes are on when selecting the "captain" at the rotary switch (drop shapped) under "Ice Protection" panel in the low left side of the overhead panel. DC-9 AP was not so good at the ILS approach, the glide slope was maintained more or less well but the localizer was a bit "snaked" by the AP specially if you tried it out in cross wind apporaches. We used to fly ILS by hand and it behaves quite well and you feel confident when flying'er by hand. VSI is the less accurate of the instruments, it provides a clue on what the aircraft is doing or the tendency to go up or down, we used it to hold some 700 to 800 fpm on the glide, but again just a visual cue when doing your instruments glimpse but paying more attention to the air speed. I'd say that the DC-9 was an (almost) visual flying machine, sometimes following the VOR radial and seldomly following an ILS approach. Greetings.
Thanks for your reply! I'll feed this back to the dev. Yea thats interesting to hear that real pilots preferred to fly the approach manually rather than rely on an AP that just didn't have the reliability back then to do the job.
@@PeterMatthess That is correct. That was the golden age in my days, now I’m retired. Today nav computers are more accurate and they can even simulate ILS where there is none, all GPS!! All safer though! Greetings.
It says rear white nav light added but when you switched to night it's not there. Also, the strobes are completely wrong. It is not a double flash on the rear, there is a single flash in the front and rear at the same time. The top beacon light isn't working either. The bottom beacon has a perfect effect and I hope to see it fixed on the top. Also, I would love to see engine smoke added, those old JT8's need it! Other than that, its shaping up well!!
Negative just a private pilot. I’m a huge aircraft lighting nerd. I do light mods for the sim and just wanted to add this feedback to make it just a bit more realistic. Also had some time working with them irl.
My understanding is that the start pump is used to start the APU in cases where you do not have AC power. If you have a GPU connected, you wouldn't really ever need it for anything. You should not have the start pump running for long as it is not cooled. What I'm certain of is that the start pump is DC powered, eg. by the battery. So you only need it when the APU is not running, which stands to reason means that you don't need it on ground power of after the APU is running/on the bus. I'm not an IRL pilot but reasonably proficient MD-80 series simulator pilot, and it's the same story there: I'm basically never using the start pump for anything. Pitot heat is on the ice protect panel. Off is off. The remaining CAPT/AUX/FO are "on," but will change which one is metered to the left, I believe. You can also check RAT on the ground to make sure you don't have a fault. If you have anything registered on there when on the ground, you have a fault (it's a check for incorrect air/ground logic, if the DC-9 has it -- MD-80 does). I've heard from many real pilots that planes do descend in a turn without a pitch adjustment. Increased drag/decreased lift. But likely less than your last video, for sure. You also didn't use spoilers, but I don't know if they are arm-able for landing, or whether they must be deployed manually (or if they work).
Yeah, I’m not totally sure about the airplane itself, nor the simulation. But if they work on the plane, deploying, the manually on landing would be the move. Thanks for the content, BTW. I don't have MSFS and so can't play with it myself.
Thank you Peter for the video. I've been a passenger of the C-9B (U.S. Navy version of a DC-9 3) nearly 200 times with my Naval Air Reserve unit - anyway, someone created a proper livery and I love it but I can't seem to find a logo light switch. Any thoughts?
Looks really good! Not being picky I’m just curious if someone knows….but didn’t Eastern DC-9-10 series & DC-9-14 use metal nose gear debris deflectors. I know some operators did and some operators used a built in ridged nose gear tire design that deflected water and FOD on takeoff and landing…..always heard maintenance folks at DAL developed it because of the tow-bar and the metal deflectors were damaging nose gear during pushback …if extreme care wasn’t taken on pushback. EAL did a lot of power backs even in ATL and MIA…..other operators using jet-tugs and tow-bars for pushback…..anyway just curious.
Simmarket seems to still have the skysim dc9 for sale. Any ideas from the dev when updated the aircraft would be available? Understand there's still more work to do.
Peter, would please ask them to connect the heading bug and altitude bug with the keyboard commands please. It's very annoying I can't change them witht the keyboard or a button. I can do that with all other planes.
@@PeterMatthess I'm using 1, 2, 3 and 4 on the keyboard 1 = Toggle Altitude Hold 2 = Toggle Autotpilot Heading Hold 3 = Decrease Heading Bug 4 = Increase Heading Bug Actually those are not operative.
Hi Peter. Did you advise them about the contrails ? I'm glad to see the windows are opening. Also, from the cockpit, I can't open the door to go in the cabin but from the cabin I'm able to open it. Is this fixed ?
Hi, I did feed that back but thats not one of the points he came back to me with, will feed that back again in anther email soon and see in a future patch. Also, so far I haven't been up high enough in a test so it may have been fixed already and I don't know, Ill check tomorrow and see.
@dadgametime7160 these are test builds the dev is giving me to test. He's given me permission to share my feedback with the community as well. But these iterations he's sending me to test out at some point (I'm guessing) will all be rolled into an official patch, so basically I'm just helping to beta test the first official patch of the product. So you haven't missed anything yet
@@PeterMatthess excellent. Hope the sounds get fixed too. I love this plane and it just needs some tweaks but also a few major repairs. Glad to see the update videos. Gives me hope
Didnt see the aircraft CG on that chart either, you need that to work out your trim settings. Then from what I can tell by pausing the vid you could work out waht flap would be best (I think)
On the chart CG …do you move straight down from the TOW to the closest of 22 or 23….then go to corresponding number (using 23) in the Horiz Stab Chart and get Flap 5 @ 2.9 or Flap 10 @ 3.3, Flap15 @ 3.7…..I really don’t know just trying to figure it out myself!
because that has nothing to do with Autopilot altitude hold. That forces the horizon line on your ND to stay level, its meant for cruise, nothing else. Essentially there is no 'altitude hold' in the DC-9, you just turn the vs hold dial to zero and the plane flies level.
I’d like to see it have option to use gps like gtn750 mod , not everyone wants to go all out old skool but still love to fly a classic There is an option in MSFS to force nav1 to gps so if you have the gtn750 it might work anyway
I don't know about forcing the nav1 to gps, I can ask the dev if he intends to add a default asobo gps unit or something, but based on the space in the cockpit I don't think it looks likely
@PeterMatthess if you look at any classic jet so far , they all have GPS options, it's just fair to the entire community and more people would be willing to buy it , imo
There is a pretty strong pitch change when you select the first stage of flaps, that’s realistic. We use to train the pilots to anticipate this by judicious use of elevator trim. After some practice it became second nature and nothing was felt by the passengers. The autopilot on the other hand could not anticipate flap selection so it was slow to react. Again most DC-9 pilots flew the aircraft manually except for cruise and low visibility approach such as CATII, however it was customary to configure the aircraft whilst flying manually and the engage the autopilot for the ILS approach. Flying the DC-9 was more of an art than a science but it was so enjoyable! Hopefully this model will get refined so that one day it will be enjoyable as well, it seems at least that the Devs are making an effort to improve it based on user’s feedback, good on them
@340ACP thanks foe this feedback!! This is exactly what I needed to hear. Good to hear then that the big pitch up movement is realistic and that the real life pilots would simply work around this issue at that time. Yes looking forward to more updates and better sounds once more things are ironed out
Thank you for this vid, looks like it's getting some great love, and will be a definite purchase once this update comes out!
This is looking like I'll be beginning to think about making a purchase! A 8.33kHz radio option and some kind of gps option for vatsim would be on my wishlist.
I flew the DC-9 for thousands of hours at a carrier overseas. One thing about the autopilot in the real aircraft, we only ever used it for altitude hold, the turn knob, and the vertical speed wheel. Every other mode was an absolute mess.
@josea.8790 thanks for that feedback, I'm getting a consistent story about the AP from DC-9 pilots about this. Thanks
@@PeterMatthess As @340ACP said, flying the DC-9 is more of an art. You strap the jet to your hands with the big turn-knob wheel and the vertical speed wheel, much like riding a motorcycle and that’s it. Everything else feels aggressive, jittery, and useless. It’s a jet you fly purely by feel. The developer can make this a great airplane by partnering with third-party audio companies to enhance the sounds and improving the graphics and every small detail. This aircraft is all about nostalgia and memories, especially when experienced in VR
@josea.8790 that's good to know and member as a baseline for how it should behave in the air. Tell me, did it have that 'wobble motion' feel to it that is present in this flight model?
Very happy to see that you heard from the dev and that they're making improvements.
Great video, it is looking better. Great video as always.
Couple of notes for ye, 1... for takeoff, on your balance sheet it was showing 22.5 % of CG, that would make something like 3.5 trim setting, also the plane rotated too quickly as you need to set the proper EPR for takeoff, use your EPR computer and see what FL/TO gives.... that is Flex Takeoff. Secondly your interception of the LOC beam for the ILS was done at 90 deg and 180 KTS, the Sperry is capable of doing it, but you need to do it at a lower speed, proper capture should be done at about 45 deg or less for the Sperry to capture without having to make rushed corrections. I will add a third point, Climbs and descents can and better be done using your IAS/MACH hold with the "pitch mode" knob, you climb and descend using your power setting, there is no need to constantly use the VS wheel, use it when you are approaching your cruise altitude or leveling off. The DC-9 was perfectly capable of keeping leveled flight by doing proper power settings.
thanks for those points, where you a DC-9 pilot? I'll have to circle back on the correct CG settings and thrust settings for takeoff, and learn that EPR computer. I was aware that I was trying to engage the LOC quite aggressively, as you can see I really wasn't bothered too much if I did it correctly, for the sake of the video I wanted to see it do SOMETHING. So it was more about how the AP handled being thrown about at that stage. But I was glad to see at least it did its best to hold the LOC and it WAS holding the glide until I added flaps.
Amazing update , in navigation maters I have to say that the rmi looks mirrored and sometimes CM1 rmi shows single needle when the knob assigned is the doble needle. About autopilot , if you fly on nav cap,then change to hdg sel on, and then off, if you select nav again it won’t capture it even if it says nav cap, the easy and fast way to resolve this is to change the knob to ILS and back to Nav.
Heading selector pixel from default cockpit cm1 view it’s tricky to actuate it without moving the camera (specially a pity when got to do it fast ) sometimes you change the turn knob or hide cm2 yoke.
Idk if this is IRL but if you empty the center tank engines will shutdown even if wing tanks are full and fuel xfeed on ( it is required to consume the fuel from wings first and end with central tanks)
Stall warning does not sound when testing as well as gear horn or some fire tests
Auto pilot individual axis servos (RUD/ELEV/AIL) are interfering with the AP servo , for the autopilot to work properly it is required to have them off (or down position , idk if that’s on or off)
TOWS will sound on takeoff run if you yoke into the wind in crosswind takeoff (idk if this is IRL but yoke into the wind on takeoff is pretty common and getting a TOWS on that is kinda scary)
Windshield wipers knob “park” position is useless since stop position does not stop the wiper anywhere but in the down position ,thus park function of downing them does never apply even if it is selectable on the knob.
If I use EPR to RAT instrument for T/O , climb or cruise the values suggested does not correspond to the performance of the model, it usually turns over speeding if following it. (It would be amazing to include graphs and tables regarding power settings EPR as well as fuel consumption in the manual or documentation for our calculations)
At the end, I have flown it on IVAO, still buggy on minor things , specially difficult when autopilot goes crazy, but all that said this aircraft is flyable and enjoyable, trains your hand as a pilot and navigator.
Incredible job, specially appreciate the work on updating and perfectioning of the model and the interest on community feedback,these are the things that gives a brand it’s name and quality. Keep it on ;)
Thanks for your feedback, I'll send it to the dev now. I'm not the dev at all, I'm just a random youtuber who the dev somehow decided to start sending his test builds to!! And I know how much people want to see this aircraft improved, myself included. These are excellent points, and not points I have personally come across yet in this addon, so I'll pass them along.
Definitely going to pick this up once the update comes out. I do wish that the DME readout would be fixed, I can see that getting confusing under pressure. Picking up icing with the A/I on looks like it's not working, even the DC6 wouldn't pick up ice going through a cloud like that with the systems on.
The top line on the trim page is your CG value, you can find that by tracing down from the TOW marker on the weight and balance chart above it
The green band on the trim should only be for setting takeoff trim, being able to trim out of it doesn't seem like an issue but I'm not a DC9 pilot so not completely sure
I think pressing the gear warning cutoff to the right of the glare shield will turn off the terrain warnings
excellent points thankyou - icing and the DME readout are two things I must feed back to the dev thanks
i think this will be a great addon It's easier to talk without to know... than to understand things ,It's not by criticizing that you improve something ...respect alway for the work of this dev , and then anyone who criticizes a newly released addon without trying it after the updates doesn't understand anything
Hi all. Balooning hapens always on all planes when selecting flaps, particulary at high speeds, that's why we have the tables to discount the fuel burned out along the route so the correct speeds for selecting flaps. If you are comming in too fast and select slats down and deployed, the wing increases the lift force hence balooning so the subsecuent flap settings, although the AP is not too accurate, it exhibits some balooning but is less pronounced at the correct speed, enough for the AP to have the chance to change the trim slightly and maintain altitude. The pitot tubes are on when selecting the "captain" at the rotary switch (drop shapped) under "Ice Protection" panel in the low left side of the overhead panel. DC-9 AP was not so good at the ILS approach, the glide slope was maintained more or less well but the localizer was a bit "snaked" by the AP specially if you tried it out in cross wind apporaches. We used to fly ILS by hand and it behaves quite well and you feel confident when flying'er by hand. VSI is the less accurate of the instruments, it provides a clue on what the aircraft is doing or the tendency to go up or down, we used it to hold some 700 to 800 fpm on the glide, but again just a visual cue when doing your instruments glimpse but paying more attention to the air speed. I'd say that the DC-9 was an (almost) visual flying machine, sometimes following the VOR radial and seldomly following an ILS approach. Greetings.
Thanks for your reply! I'll feed this back to the dev. Yea thats interesting to hear that real pilots preferred to fly the approach manually rather than rely on an AP that just didn't have the reliability back then to do the job.
@@PeterMatthess That is correct. That was the golden age in my days, now I’m retired. Today nav computers are more accurate and they can even simulate ILS where there is none, all GPS!! All safer though! Greetings.
PW JT8D’s usually had fuel introduced at 20% N2
Yeah, the MD-80 is 21% AFAIK.
It says rear white nav light added but when you switched to night it's not there. Also, the strobes are completely wrong. It is not a double flash on the rear, there is a single flash in the front and rear at the same time. The top beacon light isn't working either. The bottom beacon has a perfect effect and I hope to see it fixed on the top. Also, I would love to see engine smoke added, those old JT8's need it! Other than that, its shaping up well!!
Thanks, are you a real world DC-9 pilot? I want to make sure any real world DC-9 pilot feedback is front and center when I feedback to him.
Negative just a private pilot. I’m a huge aircraft lighting nerd. I do light mods for the sim and just wanted to add this feedback to make it just a bit more realistic. Also had some time working with them irl.
My understanding is that the start pump is used to start the APU in cases where you do not have AC power. If you have a GPU connected, you wouldn't really ever need it for anything. You should not have the start pump running for long as it is not cooled.
What I'm certain of is that the start pump is DC powered, eg. by the battery. So you only need it when the APU is not running, which stands to reason means that you don't need it on ground power of after the APU is running/on the bus.
I'm not an IRL pilot but reasonably proficient MD-80 series simulator pilot, and it's the same story there: I'm basically never using the start pump for anything.
Pitot heat is on the ice protect panel. Off is off. The remaining CAPT/AUX/FO are "on," but will change which one is metered to the left, I believe. You can also check RAT on the ground to make sure you don't have a fault. If you have anything registered on there when on the ground, you have a fault (it's a check for incorrect air/ground logic, if the DC-9 has it -- MD-80 does).
I've heard from many real pilots that planes do descend in a turn without a pitch adjustment. Increased drag/decreased lift. But likely less than your last video, for sure.
You also didn't use spoilers, but I don't know if they are arm-able for landing, or whether they must be deployed manually (or if they work).
last time I checked spoilers were not armable in the DC-9, but I should double check next flight, thanks for your points
Yeah, I’m not totally sure about the airplane itself, nor the simulation. But if they work on the plane, deploying, the manually on landing would be the move.
Thanks for the content, BTW. I don't have MSFS and so can't play with it myself.
I’m glad he’s taking accountability on this bc the MD11 I bought was a total failure
I never got that so I wasn't aware of the issues
Thank you Peter for the video. I've been a passenger of the C-9B (U.S. Navy version of a DC-9 3) nearly 200 times with my Naval Air Reserve unit - anyway, someone created a proper livery and I love it but I can't seem to find a logo light switch. Any thoughts?
@@3516diesel I don't know myself, did it have one? Maybe this version of the DC-9 is modelled off a variant that didn't have one?
@PeterMatthess the logo lights are illustrated in the documents but not the switch, she's not pretty at night. 😞
Looks really good! Not being picky I’m just curious if someone knows….but didn’t Eastern DC-9-10 series & DC-9-14 use metal nose gear debris deflectors. I know some operators did and some operators used a built in ridged nose gear tire design that deflected water and FOD on takeoff and landing…..always heard maintenance folks at DAL developed it because of the tow-bar and the metal deflectors were damaging nose gear during pushback …if extreme care wasn’t taken on pushback. EAL did a lot of power backs even in ATL and MIA…..other operators using jet-tugs and tow-bars for pushback…..anyway just curious.
Simmarket seems to still have the skysim dc9 for sale. Any ideas from the dev when updated the aircraft would be available? Understand there's still more work to do.
I don't have that imformation sorry
@PeterMatthess thank you.
Peter, would please ask them to connect the heading bug and altitude bug with the keyboard commands please. It's very annoying I can't change them witht the keyboard or a button. I can do that with all other planes.
@@mazdajaune will do mate
@@PeterMatthess I'm using 1, 2, 3 and 4 on the keyboard 1 = Toggle Altitude Hold 2 = Toggle Autotpilot Heading Hold 3 = Decrease Heading Bug 4 = Increase Heading Bug Actually those are not operative.
Almost Everything came thru Dulles. I'm sure Eastern Flew DC-9s out of Dulles at least on the Shuttle to Boston.
Has the DEV released the update to the public?
not yet as far as I'm aware. We will all know when he does as we'll see the ability to update it in simmarket or aerosoft launcher I guess
Hi Peter. Did you advise them about the contrails ? I'm glad to see the windows are opening. Also, from the cockpit, I can't open the door to go in the cabin but from the cabin I'm able to open it. Is this fixed ?
Hi, I did feed that back but thats not one of the points he came back to me with, will feed that back again in anther email soon and see in a future patch. Also, so far I haven't been up high enough in a test so it may have been fixed already and I don't know, Ill check tomorrow and see.
@@PeterMatthess Thank you Peter.
Any idea when these updates will be available to the rest of us?
@davidpaul7563 no sorry. Don't know when this will be rolled out as an official update, I'll update my yt channel though when I do
@@PeterMatthess Awesome. Thanks for posting the videos. I hope it gets fixed enough to have not completely wasted money.
I still haven’t been notified of the first update and now there’s a second one in the works?
@dadgametime7160 these are test builds the dev is giving me to test. He's given me permission to share my feedback with the community as well. But these iterations he's sending me to test out at some point (I'm guessing) will all be rolled into an official patch, so basically I'm just helping to beta test the first official patch of the product. So you haven't missed anything yet
That's why in my video title I've put (coming soon)
@@PeterMatthess excellent. Hope the sounds get fixed too. I love this plane and it just needs some tweaks but also a few major repairs. Glad to see the update videos. Gives me hope
@dadgametime7160 yes, the dev has confirmed to me that sounds are all being reworked in a future update (so maybe not the first)
Didnt see the aircraft CG on that chart either, you need that to work out your trim settings. Then from what I can tell by pausing the vid you could work out waht flap would be best (I think)
On the chart CG …do you move straight down from the TOW to the closest of 22 or 23….then go to corresponding number (using 23) in the Horiz Stab Chart and get Flap 5 @ 2.9 or Flap 10 @ 3.3, Flap15 @ 3.7…..I really don’t know just trying to figure it out myself!
Why aren't you using the altitude hold function? The switch is right above the airspeed gauge.
because that has nothing to do with Autopilot altitude hold. That forces the horizon line on your ND to stay level, its meant for cruise, nothing else. Essentially there is no 'altitude hold' in the DC-9, you just turn the vs hold dial to zero and the plane flies level.
Great plane, the 727, 737-200. To bad still no Marketplace in msfs2024..still BROKEN.
I know they flew into DCA.
To me te spoilers are not working. They absolutely no effect on the speed.
@mazdajaune I forgot to deploy them on touchdown actually so they don't feature at all in this video actually
@@PeterMatthess I'll sure they don't work even on landing, they don't have any effect on the aircaft.
@mazdajaune I'll have to test that on my next flight and compare by doing some touch and go's
@@PeterMatthess Did you test the contrails yet ?
@mazdajaune not yet, will in next video
I’d like to see it have option to use gps like gtn750 mod , not everyone wants to go all out old skool but still love to fly a classic
There is an option in MSFS to force nav1 to gps so if you have the gtn750 it might work anyway
I don't know about forcing the nav1 to gps, I can ask the dev if he intends to add a default asobo gps unit or something, but based on the space in the cockpit I don't think it looks likely
@@PeterMatthess I'd say where the weather radar is located is a good spot for example (ie. like on the JF Fokker 28)
@PeterMatthess if you look at any classic jet so far , they all have GPS options, it's just fair to the entire community and more people would be willing to buy it , imo
maybe not a GTN but some RNAV capable like the ones at black square aircrafts or maybe an INS would be valuable
This thing is awful.. I'm afraid no amount of updating can fix it.
@cklot3r it's so bad that I can't be fixed? So your saying the dev should just forget trying to patch it at all?