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- What we know so far plus other landing considerations in adverse conditions.
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Aviation Herald:
avherald.com/h?article=4d8300a...
FAA AC 91-79:
www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/m...
FSF Bulletin-Landing Distances:
flightsafety.org/files/alar_b...
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Once Again this video has been DEMONETIZED by You Tube!!!
For nothing more than Straight Facts and detailed Technical Explanations. Juan.
That's absurd! I imagine it's quite frustrating. Thanks for all the great content Juan.
Try screaming "REEEEEEEEEE" several times during the videos, it should rectify the issue.
It's pretty clear now that TH-cam is run by morons.They'll have a bright future in moonbatty politics after retirement from Silicon Valley! Maybe take over for Pelosi ... 🥴
I really don't understand their policy on this stuff. It's current events, your not being sensational or pointing fingers just stating facts and trying to educate us on the circumstances...
I'm afraid the only solution is to post timely updates on "sensitive" subjects ad free over on Patreon exclusively, and then only make these videos public on YT after enough time has passed for the subject matter to no longer be considered "sensitive" and "not suitable for all advertisers" by the folks at You Tube.
Thank you for posting and the Analysis of what happened. I worked for FedEx for 30 years. My early days were at the Oakland Airport loading and unloading DC10 and 727 . Enjoy your videos!
Once again thanks from a Joe average who now has a much better understanding of what a tough job pilots have sometimes. Congrats of 200k, well deserved.
Never get tired if hearing Pete’s KABLAMO! 😇
Pete has the coolest plane in California!
IN TOTAL AGREEMENT
Worked two contracts in India as a A320 Captain and use to fly into India, working for a Middle East airline. First, weather reports are often not accurate if it is done manually. Secondly, drainage is poor at most of the runways across India. Some of the newer airports such Hyderabad and Bangalore are much better, but I still do not think they are as good as western airports. Thirdly monsoon rain in India is some of the heaviest I have seen. Think of the heaviest rain you have ever seen, and it lasting for hours. I remember during one monsoon downpour that was measured at nine feet in 24 hours. Back in 2005 Mumbai got one of those downpours and the airport was under water for about a week. I experienced the worst hydroplaning in my career at the Cochin airport in 2011. This was a night landing about 2 am local and the weather report was high ceilings and rain was not even reported. There was numerous thunderstorms in the area. I planed on poor braking and selected medium auto brake and briefed full reversers. In reality we broke out of IMC about 100 feet above minimums with wipers selected on high. The first officer lost the runway environment because of the heavy rain, but I still had the runway in sight and landed the aircraft. When I selected full reverse I lost the runway environment and went to instruments. The only thing that slowed the aircraft was the reversers, the auto braking was cycling on and off throughout the aircraft deceleration and brakes were really not effective until probably 50 knots. I can not remember the runway length but I think it was between 9000-11000 feet and we used almost all of it. On taxi in the terminal was struck by lightening and lost power and a few seconds later the control tower was struck by lightening and lost power. Yeah he probably had to clean his underwear after that lightening strike. We taxied to the ramp when the tower was struck and lost power, but I elected to taxi to the gate because the marshaller was still standing there holding his flashlights, despite the terminal and tower being struck by lightening. Yeah only in India. About 15 minutes after we left the aircraft to go to the hotel a Gulf Air a319 or A320 slid off the runway and the airport was closed for a couple of days. Read the accident report where it stated weather was not a factor. Yeah never trust the weather reports and always plan on hydroplaning during monsoon season in India.
Thank you very much for sharing this experience!
Yeah really good description thanks
Nice job in going over the details of landing computations, Jeppeson info on runways with displaced thresholds, and wind additives to VRef. This brought back memories for me of flying as a FedEx MD-11 Captain into Mumbai the day after the record for daily rainfall of 37.1 inches on 26 JUL 2005. Iffy weather forecast with tailwinds, sketchy runway lighting and approach aids due to damage from rain, notams of debris on runway, etc.. I had been called out on reserve to D/H all the way to Dubai to fly the trip to Mumbai. Fortunately, I worked with the dispatcher to “go have a look at it” with enough fuel to make a few approaches and still fly back to Dubai if I didn’t like the situation on arrival. Things improved enroute and I was able to land with a headwind, the ILS in commission, and the runway clear of debris. The only other issue was getting instructions for exiting the runway via a taxiway that was new and not depicted on the Jepp airport diagram. I retired at the beginning of 2012, but I’ll never forget that Reserve callout.
Sounds like you did a thorough bit of homework, which paid off.
Excellent description.
OceanSwimmer thank you. Lots of times when you’re on Reserve and get called out it’s tough to get up to speed for airports, weather, and maintenance issues (including MEL deferrals). The advantage I had was the time it took to deadhead from Memphis to Dubai and crew rest, allowing my crew to gather a lot of info before we were scheduled to fly. I also need to give credit to the dispatcher for working with me to address my concerns with safely operating into a potentially dicey environment. I forgot to mention that someone in a heavy jet slid off the end of the runway that same day (I think I remember it being Canada, though I’m not sure.)
flyerhiker I was with Iran Air on the 727-100/200 in the 70’s. We did Karachi/Bombay turns out of Tehran. Besides Viet Nam and Houston, I’ve never seen so much rain...and amazingly...never so glad to get back to Tehran. Good to be retired, eh?
I retired a few months after you and my BOM story was similar. Monsoon rains, landing 09 but last 1,000' closed for maint, quartering tailwaind and no grooving. I was lucky that after 2 approaches we never saw the runway, and I had a HUD, and diverted to Hyderabad. Another goofy story for another day.
@@mannypuerta5086 Yes, it's good to be retired! Glad you survived the Karachi/Bombay turns from Tehran. I've also experienced the Houston rains when I was based there with Continental, along with other interesting places along the Gulf Coast. Tropical Storms & Typhoons in the Philippines, Guam, and American Samoa were also amazing to behold when I was in the Air Force. I was only in Tehran once with the military in @ 1975-76. It was at night and I was amazed at all the uncontrolled ground traffic all over the ramp!
How on earth does TH-cam come to the conclusion that a runway overrun is sensitive content instead of educational?
This has become my favorite channel on TH-cam.
I think you hit the nail on the head. You have to take ALL variables into account and HOW they will coalesce to increase your probability of an unfavorable outcome. If you isolate each variable and mitigate independently you are asking for trouble. I had to learn this important lesson through experience one dark and stormy night with a hefty direct cross wind, IMC, rain, and a wet runway.
Congrats on hitting 200k subs💯✔️
Can't believe they would demonetize this content! You are one of the most factual, evidence based, unbiased aviation analysts out there - that's why I subscribed to you in the first place!😕
When the video started. I said, "Why cover a little runway hard stop?". By the end, I had learned all of the numerous components that made this a very near disaster (at least for the crew), and why it is so important to stick to the process in air safety. Very well done as usual.
Congrats on 200k subs! You are appreciated.
JB thanks for your usual step by step update. Appreciate the time you take to merge the data to enlighten us.
Forgot to mention in the last episode with Dan that you were looking more relaxed and rested compared to the earlier episode.
Hey Pete, thanks for poppin' in. 🥳
I stay at about 4NM on the 14 approach end and saw this MD-11 and thought.... That's gonna be interesting! Something inside me knew this was not a good idea.
I'd take those wind speeds with a pinch of salt as we had an approaching cyclone within an hour of this FedEx arrival here in mumbai.
The visibility seemed satisfactory as I saw this airplane right down to about when it was about 500' from touchdown. I live on the 15 floor and I was clearing my roof for the expected cyclone and there was winds close to 30-35kts from where I was on my roof, and the cyclone was passing further to the south of me(closer to the airport). The probable reason for them to use 14 (which they use very occasionally) is the storm which would be on the approach end of 09 and 32 moving toward the approach end of 27 but off set.
You should really check the weather that day by some means
It's the worse we've had in a long time,
In sure it may uncover some new facts
Thanks for the great content as always.
Cheers on your steady growth.
I LOVE SEEING THE LITTLE BOY. HE IS SO FUNNY!!! PLEASE KEEP HIM IN VIDEOS.....I FOLLOW ALL VIDEOS.. TEACH US MUCH FROM A HIGH ENERGY PILOT !!!!!! HIGH LEVEL TEACHER. THANK YOU!!!..
I use to fly into Mumbai in an MD-11 back when it was called Bombay. I also flew into Bombay before that time period in the old DC-10's.
That's where the good old times
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Is "Bollywood" now "Mummywood?"
James Lee as the actresses get older and get kids, yes!
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@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 Welcome to regional politics of India. We love calling it Bombay.
Congratulations on 200k, Juan!! SWEEEEEEET!🤘😬🤘Very well deserved, I might add. I appreciate the info, as always! 👍🍻
Joined at Oroville dam didn't know you were a pilot
I became permanent with your B24 excusion. My dad was WWII pilot, King of the Heavies, Pacific. Keep up the great work do. Congrats on those awards!
HUGE congrats on 200K subs, Juan. Very well-deserved. Oh, and great vid, as usual.
Congrats on 200k juan and thanks for posting these stories I would never find otherwise!! 👌👌👌👍👍👍
I never stop learning when I come here. Now I know why I don't fall over! Many thanks and congrats.
Good thing you had those earphones on, it made you look so much more official and piloty as you made your usual contributions to causal speculation based upon partial facts. You’re awesome. Really. Well done and nothing to be ashamed of. A credit to the profession and admired by your peers.
Beautiful aircraft. MD-11 should be my favorite aircraft, since it brought me into the United States in 1994. It was Finnair, and one of the brand new MD-11's. Finnair was the MD-11 launch customer. At that time, I wanted to be on 747 of course, but I didn't realize how lucky I was to be on the MD-11. It was huge!!! 2-5-2 seat configuration!!! Beautiful machine. Now even the 747 is no longer flown on U.S. passenger carriers... America without the Twin Towers, Concorde, and DC-10 and 747 flying on local airlines is not longer the same. 777 is nice, but it's kind of bloated. 767 will be exiting service... 757 is beautiful, like a sports model. Beautiful. And of course the plane that made America what it used to be, the DC-9, MD-80, MD-90, and 717. I've flown on the 717 recently. Beautiful aircraft. You never know how much you like something, when it really becomes rare, and you really know how much you liked it when it's gone...
Good point.
Congratulations on your subscription count Juan. You've more than earned them.
I appreciate your analysis on each of the aircraft incidents we hear about. You are very knowledgeable.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and time with us.
Stan
Stupendous accessible reporting. In addition to the specs of this MD11 landing, I learned about stiping (spelling is a guess) and nitrogen filling airline tires. Nice bonuses. Lt. Pete sure is a charmer. Congratulations on the numbers you're deservedly celebrating, Team Blancolirio! Thanks Patreon crew!
Thanks for the review.. backs up my max tail wind of 10kts personal min.. using the gust winds. Shows how all of us could make that same path of decisions. Glad no one was hurt and there was no damage!
Congrats on 200k subs! This channel will see 1 million subs!
And it certainly deserves a million.
rock crawler hello, YES, there is a YT site I watch & he is 1.5 MILLION , CHEERS 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
As soon as I heard that the incident involved an MD-11, I wasn't surprised. As others have noted, it's not your father's DC-10. Those are pretty hot ships and this isn't the first time Fed-Ex has had a landing issue with one. I'm disappointed that TH-cam has elected to become the information police. There is nothing here that either hurts anyone or represents a radical view. You are just doing what most pilots do whenever they hear about an accident. I'd be more worried about all of us if we didn't try to analyze accidents. It simply means we don't want to be the NEXT one. Keep it up, Juan, I enjoy your channel.
Thanks for the very detailed explanation Juan (and Pete). Also, congrats on reaching 200K!👍🏻
Juan, you do a far better job of concisely reporting the facts of aircraft accidents, than the so called professional media. The aviation community relies on you as a source of information. Believe me, it’s appreciated in this world of misinformation.
I love that kid Pete. Cute as a button. He's your official sidekick!
Congratulations on reaching 200,000 Juan & Company. You deserve it. Great content as always. Thanks.
I sure enjoy getting to hear more and understand a little regarding all the variables involved in judgments that have to be made by the crews, again and again. Good grief - the skill and knowledge required is immense. I have also had respect for such professionals but the "mental hands-on" requirements is extensive, to say the least. Thank you again, Juan. It's a privilege to sit in on your conversations.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 200K !!!!!
And another WONDERFUL video as always!!!!
Great video Juan. If I recall, hydroplaning can happen at a speed of 9 times the square root of the tire pressure. Roughly 127 kts for the MD 11 possibly. The runway looked pretty wet.
Cheers to 200k!
Yes Sir
Congratulations!
Really awesome. I've been trying to get to 500 for a year lol covering current events really helps a lot it seems.
I have to say, Love your videos, especially how you explain advanced topics with such ease.
Please keep up the good work, hope to become your patron on patreon soon
Hello; I really really enjoyed ur video.
I appreciate u made a video on this accident; I saw this FedEx MD-11 passing above my building. It was quite LOUD. This is the secondary runway, when ever a plane skids off or maintenance work going on main runway 9/27. They use SECONDARY Runway 14/32.
Congratulations!! 200K Subscribers Hard work always pays off
Thanks Juan for the time and effort you put into this, your passion is much appreciated
Thanks again for providing understanding. Anytime there is an aviation-related incident I turn to your channel for understanding and clarity.
Love seeing your channel grow Juan. Love the factual reporting. I learn more about aviation every time I watch
Wow! Thanks so much. Been following you since you started reporting the Oroville dam disaster. Oh and I just love the music.
Very informative!! You also should have mentioned of the Engine#1 stall evident before aircraft completely stops.
Great job Joan, I recently have started watching your videos ( just after PK 8303 crash in my city Karachi) and really appreciate your to-the-point and very correct analysis. Thanks a lot.
Congrats on 200K Juan you deserve it!
amazing explanation of this incident and all of the variables that may have possibly contributed to it. Also congratulations Captain Browne and First Officer P. Brown on hitting 200K subscribers.
Thanks Juan and Lt Pete, and Congratulations on the 200k subs.
JUAN, HELLO, thanks for the update, speaking of hydroplaining,,it only happened to me twice, same vehicle, boss was pissed that they put a certain brand of tyres on that SUBURBAN ( loaded ), he lost his dad to that same type of tyre HYDROPLAINING , on the NY STATE THRUWAY , IT ROLLED DURING THAT EPISODE . Stay well there , we had 2 days of great thunderstorms here , Cheers From NJ MUSA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for a wonderful channel and congrats on the 200k. !:- )
Great job Juan. I believe with all the poor aviation reporting over the years from so called mainstream media, you are becoming our way of receiving professional, trustworthy information. We will eventually find out how many are interested in factual reporting, just by your sub numbers. The world is changing and your channel is a part of it. Once someone interested in aviation comes here to your site, they will always return. Just the beginning for your channel. Cheers.
Detailed, to the point, without sensationalism and with great professionalism. Thank you.For such analysis I always go to your posts first.
David Schoneveld Mentour Pilot did a video which adds a lot of useful context to this incident.
@@gordonrichardson2972 That is exactly how I do this: first Blancolirio and then Mentour for the bigger picture...
David Schoneveld Mentour Pilot does not cover crashes. This is an incident, which was worth covering.
Incredible amount of work went into this. Fantastic job and thank you. By the way, I was over watching rice being planted by air tractor when I could have swarn I saw you riding up on your bike. Hmmmmmm.
And cheers to 200k subs!
Best in depth aviation news!
Juan, congrats to the 200K subs, and please keep the videos coming.
Congratulations on 200k subscribers, very interesting on the rubber material on landing in aquaplaning conditions.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for all the great info.
The video of that huge bord skidding sideways was scary and spectacular at the same time.
Always good to hear from Pete! And Pete good job you got your dad 200,000 people watching.
Juan - I have flown in and out of Mumbai many times on business and I can attest to the runway slipperiness. About 3 years ago I was due to fly out when it had been raining heavily all day (similar to this incident). The flight was due to leave at 1AM and when I got to the airport I found out a 737 had overrun the runway on landing and all flight operations were temporarily stopped. The other runway was unavailable as it was being worked on. At 5AM the airline declared the flight as canceled and booked me on a new flight the next day along with putting me up in a nice hotel in South Mumbai. Not surprised to see a fully loaded MD11 (my brother is a senior FedEx pilot and told me it was likely to be fully loaded) didn't make it with a wet runway. What is sad is the Mumbai authorities know the runway needs to be grooved, but haven't yet done it.
I would have thought now would have been a good time to take on major upgrades like grooving along with regular runway maintenance, and in all fairness it looks like work was been carried out on the other runway as this all unfolded.
@Peter Mortensen bcoz this is not primary runway usually. runway 9/27 is most common. also there was cyclone nisarga near mumbai
Great job! I hope people realize what time & effort you just put into this video!
Great video and congratulations on reaching 200k subscribers! I learn something new each time I watch your videos, which is great since I want to be a pilot 😁
There are two great videos from Captain Joe about aircraft tires
Congrats for 200K subscribers ✌🏻✌🏻
Congrats on the subscribers! Joined Patreon, appreciate your updates!
Thanks Mouse!!
Congrats on the 200K Juan.
I find your aviation videos very interesting and informative. I hope you can continue with them.
Again, loved the video explanation. Congrats on the 200k subs. Hopefully 300k soon! Also, TH-cam demoitizing your videos is crazy. Cannot believe this is happening in 2020 on educational videos like this.....
This channel has gone to another level! Good Stuff!
Love your channel, just discovered it last week. Very cute kid too. Keep up the great work.
Congratulations on 200K Subscribers!!!
Congratulations on 200K subs, well done !!!
Congratulations for the +200K suscribers..!
Best regards from Patagonia, Argentina 🇦🇷
Henry Sir, Patagonia is a breathtaking lovely place as I watched on TV. Love from India...
Dude, you channel rocks. I really appreciate the intelligent conversation. Whether it be planes or burning houses, I sure appreciate the good info. Cheers.
Yes! Congratulations on reaching 200k Subscribers!
You truly take aviation by heart Juan ,impeccable explanation as always, salute 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thank You Sir-Juan for the history lesson to go along with your update. Had wondered how shoes got their tread design. We enthusiasts of flight really have no idea what it takes to operate our aircraft safely each and everyday. Even more respect to the flight crew and cabin crew who get us to our destination. Including young Squire-Pete in the video always brings a smile to our face. Again, Thank You!👍😎❤🎅❤😎👍
Congrats on 200K subs! Love the vids! It’s good insight into a/c ops!
Congratulations on passing 200K subscribers!
Congrats Juan, you fly your channel as you fly an aeroplane, very well executed at all times : )
Congratz for the 200k! mr Juan
I always learn something from your videos, thanks for that Juan!
KABLAMO! Back at ya Pete😁🤯💣💥
Retired Captain here. Unreported factors can cause quite a cold sweat half way down the runway wondering if you’re going to get stopped. There’s no going around after touchdown. Been there, done that, except for the sliding off the runway part, just got lucky. Good reporting of the facts.
You are such a boss! I love your channel. Your exude a passion for aviation excellence and professionalism that serves as an example to all pilots. You enthusiastically convey the intricacies of a deep understanding of both the fundamental physics and human elements at work when flying . This combination makes your content appealing and understandable to lay people like me. Keep up the great work, Juan!
Good Morning, Juan. Thank you for your exceptional job with blancolirio channel. As a novice aviation addict, I find your explanations concise, and easily understandable. Great Channel! I also can see your obvious love for your son, Pete, he's a lucky kid to have you.....
Thank you Juan (and your Mini Me) for great content!
Thanks again and congrats on 200K Subs!
Thanks Juan, for the excellent evaluation. I also enjoyed the side excursion on the origin of Siping. I thought I knew tires pretty well, but I learned something today. :)
Missed it by that much.... Juan your analysis is amazing. It never stops amazing me how thorough, accurate and detailed you are. I feel like I went through a master class recurrent training on landing analysis. I'm logging this for ground instruction. Ha ha.
Thank you great information congratulations on 200k
Excellent job, as always. Thanks JB!
Congratulations. And thanks Lt. Pete for the kablamo!
Congrats on the subs Juan. Every pilot must face the consequence of their actions. These guys threw the dice and lost. Thankfully no one was hurt and the plane in still useable.
Good job sir! Your getting better every day.
Just joined your Patreon and very glad to see you pass the 200k mark. On to 500k!
Thanks Papa!!
Superb, clear explanations as ever. Thanks Juan.
Congratulation on the 200k subs (Captain Browne)... Sounds like a tough runway to land on.
Congrats Juan and thanks for very informative video.
Love your videos JUAN, very professional Chin Chin From Honduras
Comayagua! Thanks Carlos.
HOLY SHIT!!!😱😱 you answer, do you know comayagua!!! Well I'm from Tegucigalpa but yeah!!! comayagua is really pretty
Great evening watch for me today.
Thanks Juan.
As always a combination of the facts and education. Thanks Juan.
Wow! Congrats on 200k subs. You do it right!
By the look of the amount of spray from the reverse thrust, their certainly seemed to be an extensive amount of water on the runway, known slippery runway, and no tranverse runway grooves displacing the surface water (and you now just shooting me down in flames with the reverted rubber comment), it certainly seemed they were up against the odds....lucky they didn't overrun into the river 😳😳😳😳
Huge congrats on the 200k subscribers as well, great milestone for one of the best channels on TH-cam.
Cheers from Aus!!!!