Cargo Pilot vs Passenger Pilot! Can you REALLY fly a B747 in Pyjamas?
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Do you need any special license in order for a passenger pilot to fly cargo? Can you fly a Boeing 747 in a pyjamas?
These and many more questions will be answered in todays Mentour special about cargo-pilots vs passenger-pilot with guest start Kelsey from 74Gear.
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A huge "Thank you" to the channels featured in todays episode and to Kelsey of course.
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"Can you REALLY fly a B747 in Pyjamas?" I suppose that depends on whether you can find a pair of pyjamas to fit a B747.
Hehehehee, okay fair enough, that was funny. Thanks for the giggle :)
I'm sorry but this joke is WAY underrated and deserves more likes
Dudeee, underated, if its original comment.
I'll ask my mum to sew a pyjama for a B747 right now...
@mentourpilot - Wanted to chime in right quick and thank you for making this video… I am fairly loyal to the individuals I subscribe too and I found Kelsey a long time ago.. never searched for any other pilots as I never felt the need too… and as silly as it sounds, this video with you two sincerely makes me feel like I am not betraying(cheating on.. 🤪 )Kelsey’s channel 😉
A long time ago,the man who taught me trucking quit and started driving charter buses,but it wasn’t long before he got back in a truck. I asked him what happened and he said,”I got tierd of my freight bitching at me,trying to barrow money,or wander off during stops.” He was a lot happier hauling inanimate cargo.
That's really funny! Animate vs. inanimate cargo.
I think it was Kelsey who remarked in one of his videos, "Cargo seldom complains."
@@robertabarnhart6240 But when a Li-battery goes full Karen - oh boy….
I’m a simple man. I see Kelsey. I see Petter. I click!
And we appreciate that!
YES !!
@@MentourPilot to be 100% perfect the only one missing is Captain Joe. It's about time to see my 3 favourite TH-cam pilots together.
Joaquim Gonçalves Ah, I see. You speak of the Holy Trinity
Agreed
I was a train driver for over 30 years. Drove freight and passengers and never once thought about passengers behind me. It was just a train to me. Keep yourself safe and everyone else is safe with you.
One of the good things about the lockdown is the awesome collaborations that are happening! Two of the best and nicest aviation guys on youtube, love it!
tjfSIM totally agree!!!
Just found this 3 years after the fact, but 💯 agree. It's always awesome to see favorite YT content creators collaborating and supporting each other. 👍
You fly cargo, it's just self loading, and it talks back.
Hahaha! True that
Robert Campbell HAHAHA
It's hard to argue with his assessment
I’m not sure the flight attendants would agree it is self loading!
Well i tought that's what they meant when talking about "life cargo " 😂😂
As a truck driver I fully understand what they mean when they are talking about sitting around waiting.Just had that experience in Atlanta just yesterday actually.
in east europe normally you wait 10 - 11hrs now just write at least a day off or 2.
I'm not a railroader yet, but I know a few. Sitting and waiting is a big part of freight railroading, especially on single-track lines. In fact, one railroad got the nickname "Now You Sit & Wait."
As a retired USAF C130 Loadmaster, we referred to PAX as SLB (Self Loading Baggage), pure cargo was always easier.
Petter, you are actually a very good interviewer. That was fun!
as I am writing this, I'm not so sure your video title is adequate. It's a full on interview, not so much a juxtaposition. Anyway. Great video, two charismatic, enthusiastic aviation ambassadors. Best wishes from Tyskland
Seeing this video 2 years later brings back a lot of memories... freeways in L.A. with no traffic, no contrails in the skies from flights... glad we're past that and I hope we never see anything like it again. Petter & Kelsey, glad you both made it through and are continuing to entertain & inform us! Keep up the great work!
Unfortunately, we most likely will see that again. Humanity gets struck with this kind of thing every 60-80 years or so; it's just the nature of diseases. But we're getting a lot better at handling them. The death rate of COVID was 70-100 times smaller than the death rate of the previous pandemic, the Spanish flu from a century before. If anything, it's a good reminder that we, for a change, did something right.
As soon as I heard "Kelsey from 74 Gear", I smashed the Like button. Would've done anyway, but this made it much faster. :)
If Captain Joe joined in, it would the best day ever. The TRIFECTA.
And duchpilotgirl
I remember him saying Joe doesn't like collaboration
@@SF-li9kh Joe's done a few with dutchpilotgirl. That said, as a normal 747 freighter FO he's probably busier than ever.
@@cjmillsnun he doesnt want a sausage party lol
Joe did a collaboration with Pilotemilie.. think the dude is just too busy, he flies cargo too
Fascinating interview. I'm a subscriber to both channels. I was hoping to hear about Kelsey's background and how he got into aviation. Thanks for the video! Stay safe and healthy.
Could be a LIVE interview coming up!
@@MentourPilot better a podcast than live, just a personal choice 😁
@@theRk1300 Why? You get to see Petter's gorgeous face. If you don't want to, just play the TH-cam vid on a tablet & close it so all you hear is audio......
@@You.Tube.Sucks. oh no no no no no,
It's not about the gorgeous face, it's just about duration.
I personally can only take 12-15 min doses of gorgeousness 😁
@@theRk1300 😂 Thank you for the clarification 😘
74 Gear and Mentour Pilot in the same video again?
History has been made again and I am here to witness it!!
These 2 are the kind of Gold even William Devane would endorse :) (move over Rosland...)
We need a space shuttle pilot/ airline pilot collaboration.
I will see what I can do
@@MentourPilot Orbital pilots at altitude have no excuse for "clear air turbulence".
@@MentourPilot Maybe get Robert "Hoot" Gibson on the channel. He was a Space Shuttle Commander and landed the most severely damaged spacecraft to ever safely return to Earth. Later went on to become a 737 captain for Southwest Airlines.
an astronaut would be interesting
@@MentourPilot dutchpilotgirl?
Heard a Crew got the landing clearance 100NM out. Craz
I apparently watch too many videos... Mentour asked Kelsey where he was, I looked at the hotel room and said "L.A."
The Dreamlifter looks like a 747 suffering from a severe seafood allergy reaction.
I’m not a pilot but I admire their job and I have to say that I learned a lot with this video. Airports should have a cozy lounge just for pilots with Lazy Boy recliners, TV, and stuff to help them to rest and relax if they need to.
Yes they should! 25 minutes' turnaround time between flights is too short!
Use to be a B747 flight Loadmaster for a major ACMI carrier close to 9 years. I can tell you some of the crew did wear that during flights (which is the beauty of Cargo Flights-Freedom!). Regarding the Bangram air crash, I don't think any of us flying in the B747F didn't feel something in us watching our supposedly giant craft fell like a dead leaf.
Passengers are just cargo that judges you and complains lol. At least they're mostly self loading!
@@revenevan11 Ya, can really see that in the turn around time differences. Obviously the Dreamlifter is larger than standard but even a standard cargo plane takes a lot longer to unload than a passenger airline. The benefits of your cargo being self mobile!
If (Captain Joe + Dutchpilotgirl + Pilot Kelsey +
Mentour Pilot ) make video together ,It will be absolutely fantastic.
Imagine being on a flight and all of them on the flight deck 😎
@@Tsheed1 …and a flight attendant stuck in the overhead bin !
I have only PPL and fly Diamond DA40 from Rotterdam, and we can fly now the ILS06 which you can never do before, we can even fly over the Schiphol tower! So the crisis has also some very nice sides for private pilots,
Yeah, but is all cities over there. You need to fly like an hour before you get to normal landscapes. Just kidding, I'm Dutch too, from a gliding family, for several reasons stopped flying, still miss it like hell. The Diamond is great, but I could never afford a plane like that. Good on you. Have you ever shipped your Diamond to the States for a holiday trip? That brings us back to cargo planes...
Mr. Mentour, not only are you THE FLYEST(no pun intended) dude you are hands down you have THE best aviation channel online!
Thank you so much 🙏
Petter and Kelsey together do a great presentation. You can tell they respect each other. Yes, we will try and visualize Kelsey in his pj.
You guys make a brilliant duo! Always happy to see Kelsey on your channel!
Great video. Very informative. As a retired airline employee with a background in load control, I remember that cargo aircraft have some additional weight and balance requirements especially regarding the prevention of twisting of the fuselage. Also Kelsey mentioned that certain cargo types cannot be loaded adjacent. There are also goods that can only be transported on cargo-only flights.
Kelsey always has that mischievous, boyish grin. So refreshing to see him discussing with Petter - really uplifting (if you'll pardon the cringeworthy pun) and I hope we see more.
Flying over the Mediterranean a colleague of us asked a French ATC to spell the point he was given a direct to, upon which the ATC said fly any point you like 🤣 crazy times indeed.
Really enjoy you and Kelsey getting together and discussing flying. Thank you both.
Two different personnalities and channels approaches but two very informative and knowledgeable guys. Loved to see them together interviewing.
Yeah I actually got onto your channel because I got hooked on 74Gear 😂. I'm not even a pilot but I aviation and aerospace stuff is interesting and since I chose another path in life I figured I'd experience it through your channels. Thanks to both of you for your great content.
Yeah, I've only had a couple intro piloting lessons (in sailplanes) myself but haven't been able to continue pursuing it, and almost certainly won't do it for a career. So I love vicariously seeing more in depth stuff about it through all these wonderful channels!
I sort of wish I could afford to take flying lessons for the little planes because it looks like it might be fun and it might make me feel better about riding in one of the big commercial airliners.
Same here!! :D I wonder if more of us discovered Petter via a different Youflewer ....Flewtuber? Crewtuber? Oh hang on, AIRSTREAMER? Hm... cockpit streamer sounds like incontinence so that's out too... 🤔
Not sure if it’s the natural light or the casual attire, but MentourPilot is looking fine! 👌
When you said Kelsey was gonna be on here, I actually screamed "YES"! I love that guy
Upon mentioning Manchester, my brain just clicked that I've not seen or heard a single airplane (I live under the MIRSI approach route to 23L/R, flights from across the atlantic and Ireland fly over us) since lockdown was initiated, with the exception of the NPAS helicopters flying over every so often.
afxinfinitee there’s been a few arrivals, but very few and far between. The headwind direction has also caused the switch to arrivals from the south in recent days.
Love these double chats, but on topic, with a ship, it's important to inspect your cargo, the ship can capsize or break. We might have more change to survive if something happens. So much respect to all pilots. I'm trucking now but still, it's a responsible job.
I know I'm almost a year late to this one considering I just found your channel but the pharmacist in me has to comment, "Wear sunscreen!" The amount of rays you are getting sitting up in the cockpit - SUNSCREEN STAT!! :)
I love these videos with Kelsey on them. Two interesting guys!
Thank you both for this nice talking!
I'm really looking forward seeing Petter flying again
*Guy sitting on a couch for 26 days:* I need to do some new content
*Guy due to leave home & fly for 5+ hours straight:* ends up doing & becoming the content for the new video
That, Petter, is what I call Mastery 😜
I believe no ATP is required to haul freight by the FAA; only a Commercial license and a 2nd class medical.
ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.
Loved the interview with Kelsey from 74 Gear. Aside from your channel, I watch Kelsey often. He always has interesting topics to discuss and he adds a bit of humor as well. Love both of your channels. Mentour, really like to watch your accident investigations from a pilots perspective rather than the NTSB accident report . Hope your quarantine goes by quickly and you are back in the air where you belong!
2 redheads, 2 amazing personalities, 2 of my personal favourite aviation youtubers, 2 legends!
I live near the Boeing plant in Everett (the big one that holds the record for largest building by volume). I honestly hadn't realized until I scrolled down and read someone else's comment, but... Yeah, the Dream Lifters aren't taking off or landing here for the past few weeks. Usually, there's at LEAST a few a month. You can tell when a Dream Lifter is landing because the engines are so much louder than other jets. Crazy that I kinda miss the bone-rattling behemoths...
Two have been on the ground in Charleston for 1 month and I saw one is in Taiwan and another in Japan. They've hardly flown at all.
One went to Hong Kong a couple of days ago 🤩
Funny thing is that the Dream lifter looks a lot like the Airforce/NASA Guppy. My uncle designed the original guppy in order to transport various rocket segment/stages. My uncle XXXXXX designed many aircraft and ICBM's among others during his Airforce tenure.
This was interesting to watch from a pilots perspective. I am a service engineer for heavy industrial machines so I was flying all over the world in planes with 3-4 passengers. I was the only passenger on 2 flights. Very interesting conversations with cabin crew and pilots! As always great video.
Love these collabs with Kelsey!
Excellent episode. Thank you. I also watch Kelsey's channel. Both of you are great.
Thanks!! I’ll forward that to him
I love both of your channels and I'm really glad to see the two of you collaborating! Please do it again if the opportunity arises.
Thanks Petter for an awesome video. 74 Gear is also a really fantastic channel!!! As well as the awesome "Hollywood vs. Reality" videos, he also does "Cockpit Confessions" which are some really really funny stories and his videos about aviation memes are a lot a fun as well!
Awwww.... it’s so adorable when he said they’ll be grounded for at least 2 more weeks.
I feel with you guys, really, but this made me chuckle.
I've never flown on 747, never got a chance... the crisis is threatening this dream to become true. Love your channels! Keep the absolutely fantastic side up.
Абракадабра Кобра [25% & 9%] Oh you will have a chance to fly the Queen. There are still some airline that flies the Queen.
You should look primarily at cargo operators then. Large aircraft usually retain their value much better for them than cargo airliners.
@@roaminginthought9210 I'd like one more time on one too and there's still a chance because of the huge drop in fuel costs and their cargo capacity even in passenger form.
Nick Um... Not the A380...
They were cool and I miss them every time I buckle up in a cramped soulless 777. In 1969 I once flew LHR SFO on a 707 320C an a/c that had soul but cramped doesn't begin to describe 8 hours in that thing.
Got a buddy flying 747 freighters, he says full load in and out takes same time as refuelling if the ground has its act together.
Max take off and landing weight can be way up on a freighter so speeds are up
Great podcast! I love your podcasts in general, but this had a lot of fascinating content. A lot of stuff I would never have thought about, like having portable oxygen sets for handlers when transporting live animals. Thanks so much to you and Kelsey for doing this!
I lost it at Ginger Gangsters vibe hahah, loved this video an it is great to see a collab between my two favourite pilots on youtube! Stay safe and take care you both!
Loved the interaction between the two of you. It was really interesting to hear the differences between the flights. Thanks to the two best pilots with this type of shows.
My two favorite pilots together. I don't fly but I am subscribed to both of these channels.
Two of my favourite youtubers :) thank you guys
The fact that they both feel and think the same no matter what's in the plane shows the high professionalism they have every single day and how well they follow protocol to the letter. I would love to fly with these guys and feel very safe knowing who was behind the yoke. 10 out of 5 *s **********
"Stay tuned"? You meant "coming up!" :D
Haha!
he says stay tuned every video, but yes, it is "coming up" :P
@@SpontaneityJD "coming up" is what 74 Gear says. that's what he was referring to.
@@drabberjewel7108 Coming tuned! Or Stay up!
@@DamenSpikeGamesHQ >stay up!
That's what she said :(
Now I know why your videos have been recommended to me, because I’ve been watching Kelsey
This was great! I'm glad i got to see my 2 out of 3 (sorry captain joe! Lol) favorite pilots collaborating and making an awesome video during these crazy times! I'm glad you guys are holding up and doing what you can! Stay safe out there! Keep the blue side up! 🙂👍
I am not a pilot or attendant, and I’m actually scared of flying - but I am fascinated with planes, etc. so I follow both of these guys. So smart and informative…and listening to them actually helps reduce the fear of flying! Knowing that there are pilots like this in the air calms my nerves 🙂
Great video as always, I love when you pair up w Kelsey, your my only 2 aviation channels
What about cpt joe?
wow! 2 of my favorites in one show! 20:00 i live in east coast Va. US, right beneath the main MIA/ATL to new england corridor, the sky is usually filled with 5 to 10 contrails constantly. now? nothing. clear sky. yes, it's empty up there.
"another 2 weeks at least" - man I hope Petter can look back and laugh at those words nearly a year later rather than cry!
I currently fly cargo and have flown passengers in the past. Cargo flying is superior in every way. With the current state of the industry, my friends at Delta, American and the regional airlines wish they were flying cargo too
I live in Alaska. Interesting to hear about Cargo flights in and out of Anchorage
I've been hoping for a video with these 2 guys together - prob the best aviation guys on TH-cam. I guess I'm 2 years late but I'm still glad to see both of you in this video.
Is there a pay difference between cargo vs. passenger pilots of comparable aircraft?
No.
Ups, and fed ex pilot's are the highest paid.
Quite a bit more than pax pilot's.
Good stuff! I somehow didn't notice this video even though I've been following the both of you for quite some time now.
It's weird to see this a year later. With Italy doing so bad and Spain, and the US not knowing yet what was going to hit them.
And right now the Netherlands, where I'm from, are amongst the worst performing countries in the world. And honestly, it's not that bad right now. That makes it seem like we are actually getting out of here. Here's to hoping!
This is the best! Always wanted 74 Gear to do a hook up with Mentour Pilot.
Do what now?
Can't help but smile when I see those two 'together' again. Fantastic ^^
We need a pilot Greyhound bus driver collaboration.
A Greyhound driver would tell you about all of the super funky people they transport. It truly is a rolling ghetto.
WOW!!!!! THAT WOULD BE COOL.
Travelling in a Greyhound from Los Angeles to Tijuana, even eating some disgusting enchiladas in the bus station, was one of the most interesting experiences I have had. I feel like an Indiana Jones after that. :-)
Two of my favorite pilots, no way I would pass this video by!! You guys are awesome...fly safe! 🛩✈️🛫
Love when my two favorite Pilots get together thanks keep up the good work
1:27 "Did you need to take any special licence to fly cargo?" Well, you need extended Dangerous Goods Training to handle Cargo Aircraft Only items.
3:15 "How does a turn-around look for you?" I have done "hot turns" on cargo (land, taxi in, leave one engine running while you throw out one or two boxes, and take on one or two) taxi out and take off. That was on a light jet cargo operation. Mind you - I've done that with passenger operations as well when the APU was broken and there wasn't any ground power. Sometimes we had three hours to wait - in the middle of the night so the only thing open was a taxi-driver's burger joint so we would wait there. Flying cargo operations for an airline, we got cold catering (sandwich & fruit platter).
The airplane: still over 50nm from the airport
ATC be like: you're cleared to land
Cool collaboration, Petter/Kelsey. My friend is a retired FedEx captain that had some baby chicks get loose on the tarmac and transported some camels once and said that was the worst smelling flight he's ever had. He's got great stories just like you guys.
Absolutely best video I’ve seen of yours. I have a journalism background so to see two of my favourite pilot TH-camrs interviewing is great. Really cool insight and contrast, so thank you for doing this. I hope you can do this again soon!
Kelsey your not lying when you sit next to a couple of people that know that your a bad ass pilot.
When you really start digging into everything going into IFR flight, it just cascades into different fields of science.
I was already guessing you're an instructor just from the way you break down and teach stuff (thank you!).
It will take me a while before I get back in MSFS2020 - I'm still just one week into binging on all your videos!
Good job, you two! Interesting times we are in. Was the only aircraft in an entire ATCC enroute sector (SLCC) last week. Did 2 radio checks just make sure we didn’t out fly our VHF communications with them. Got cleared directly to the IAF, and for the approach, and to land in Class B airspace from the same controller upon initial hand-off! Prefer cargo. The ride is only rough when you can’t drink your coffee.
Petter: Back in northern Sweden, Sundsvall where I'm from
*me being in Gällivare*: Sundsvall + northern Sweden? something sounds a bit odd to me here
Anything north of Stockholm is northern Sweden :-)
Fair enough tho for us that live up in the north it's a different story
Awesome video. I follow Kelsey and quite often 'switch' between your channel and his. (One of your videos then one of his and so on.) You have very different presentation styles but the passion you both have for the wonderful, unpredictable and, I imagine, sometimes scary world of aviation is obvious. Thank-you.
You guys are both great teachers and love watching your channels. I'm happy to see this collaboration. Take care guys.
I love it when you are collaborating with each other! 🤩
"Gangster vibe"!! XD
I love your channel so much, Petter! It has helped me and taught me so much. Looking forward to new content as always. And collaborations, as well!
Cool! My 2 favorite aviation TH-camrs collaboration!!!
The Dreamlifter reminds me of the Oscar Meyer Wiener Wagon.
carschmn : so funny!
I see the hot dog in the bun as well, lol
Looks like a dirigible AND a cargo jet 😐
ayyy I love this collab! Id love to see you guys do more collabing! You guys are my 2 favorite avi youtubers!
FYI: The towers that were closed due to infected controllers were Chicago Midway and Las Vegas McCarran.
Been following both you and Kelsey for a good while now. Absolutely love both your channel's content. Keep doing the amazing work you've been doing.
Absolutely loved this video. I love every video that mentour puts out. Also love 74 gear. They are my absolute 2 favorite channels on TH-cam. Really been enjoying the live stream.
Happy to see You Petter!!!! Thanks for keeping the videos coming! Got my daughter hooked up with Skill Share while on stay at home, it's been a life saver for her. No more boredom.....
Covid has made me seriously consider becoming a cargo pilot for my whole career. This video gave a lot of insight
You TWO are by far the best TH-cam pilots. I know there are many others, but meh. Dutchgirl is pretty good too.
P.S Juan Brown is great too
My favorite collaboration out there! Thanks for this video. Keep up the great work!
So it's been 2 years since this was posted (today it's 4/25/2022 and this was posted on 4/21/2020). Time flies when you're having fun. Great guys.
Love to see Kelsey on your videos, he's such a nice chap! xx
I think it’s great that you two can collaborate. I really enjoy subscribing to both your channels. Thank you for all you do.