Can we now have a serious talk about this manager? 4 away wins in 2024. Lost the last 8 away games out of 12 Plays the same tactics, regardless of home and away. Refuses to adapt in games when needed. Brings on defensive subs when we need a goal. Says some bizarre things in post match interviews which makes me think he is a yes man. Plays a ridiculous high line when forced to play 2 slower centre backs and inverted fullbacks, so technically we only play with 2 defensive players. This also means when we attack and commit players, when the ball is inevitably taken from us in a turnover. The opposition have more time and space to finish. 0% of our goal kicks get lumped up the field to try and exploit Solanke's height. All kicks are played out from the back time and time again we get caught out by a single lack of concentration which ends up rattling us in certain games. We have dropped the most points from winning positions. This shows a real lack of mental strength and game management. We padded our squad with expensive inexperienced youth who are struggling in this already inconsistent team. Also this desire to play blistering pop gun football is causing more and more injuries. 'But Ange has had loads of injuries and he hasn't got his full 11' This is a BS argument put forward. We have not been good since Chelsea gave us a hiding at home last season. Ange has been well and truly found out since that game and he still fails to adapt to each opponent. What does Djed Spence have to do to get in this team, when we select 4 goal keepers for our Europa League squad. 'But we beat Utd and City' Yes, both teams going through their low points and will still finish higher than us. When City beat us in the FA Cup last year, Pep put an extra man on Vicario because he noticed that we only zonal mark. Since then we have been hounded on set pieces because we don't man mark. Look at the goal Bournemouth scored today. We have to recognise the following: Ange signed off on Timo Werner twice!!!! £165k a week! £65m spent on one season wonder and tap in merchant Solanke £30m on Archie Gray. Yes great potential, but £30m!!! Johnson has goals...yes ill give him some credit, but in build up play his first ball always hits the man and rarely makes it into the box. Playing with no real number 6 and then expecting Bissouma who is an 8 to adapt is not working. Maddison not playing in his best position as a 10 and often seeing him near his own box having to make tackles. This is not his speciality. He has high goal and assist contributions for a reason, but we play him deeper in some games. Sad to say, but i think Son is done on the wing, he can't beat a man anymore and should be played as a shadow striker. Also with the inverted fullbacks udogie is taking up space and things get congested on the left. Udogie has also regressed, he rarely puts in a cross, he gets into the box and then always tries a pass to Son, regardless of where he is. I miss his aggression and running to the by-line. Generally most players have regressed under Ange bar Porro. I don't even get excited when going to watch Spurs now. I don't know which team will turn up. I don't know which players will turn up. However the same patterns of play are happening over and over again and I don't understand how Ange cannot see this. I know I am an armchair fan, but the eye test is suggesting we are just a team of busy idiots. Rushing around looking industrious, but it produces nothing. Unfortunately unless Levy puts his hands in his pockets and buys some players of genuine quality and not players that are simply available, then I fear it's over for Ange. I want to like the guy, but sadly you have all been gaslit into thinking attacking football is in our DNA. I don't care what football we play, I just want us to look semi professional and maybe even try to win something.....we don't seem to have a winning culture. More we are just happy to be there Conte was right
Great post. I think it is very tough for Spurs because the 'top five' clubs all have a lot more resources than Spurs, ie the four at the top plus Man United.
Interesting statement there, alot sadly i cant disagree with. Your last paragraph, the semi professional. Last night againest B'rnmouth reminded me annoyingly of close to being a non league ⚽️ side🤔. Forster showed alot of courage and saved COYS bacon. Kuleuvski is about the only one with determination attempting to rescue scorelines, points & Premier League standings. Son looks utterly lost, has done for awhile. Maddison seems to fluctuate with performances😐. Solanke, i dont know what to make of him. Would reducing the players salaries according to their performances hold any clout ?. Changing Manager again!🤔. Wont achieve anything at all. Except further unsettlement, including : ⚽️ severance pay. ⚽️ another manager to get used to. ⚽️ more players in & out to suit there structure & strategy. ⚽️ different training methods or possibly the same with yet more of same fluctuating results, nothing achieved. ⚽️ PLUS, other managers & clubs talk to each other. They'll stealthy advise one another - Dont go to Spurs. ⚽️ Just where tf do Spurs go from here 🤔 ?. Does Levy & ENIC need to put a statement out showing determination moving forwards ?. ⚽️ STAY with Ange Post with conditions he HAS to adapt style of play accordingly & stop being so efn stubborn 🗣😡.
Well said Igy. Two things can be true at once plus Levy and ENIC are a MASSIVE problem at our club whilst the Australian Bielsa is completely out of his depth👍
Igy man, there's no room for top quality ready-made players at this club. Every manager will fail because of the wage structure. Levy's already signed Solanke - Odoberg and Johnson: so that's 3 forwards that are nowhere near the standard that we need to even try to get 90 goals a season. Son is in the twilight of his career and waning. Maddison has three years left at least of top quality, but he's working with rubbish. Remember, Levy signed Kulusevski on the back of just 2 goals for the whole season in the Premier League, and nothing has changed as he's got 2 goals now with 3 assists in the Premier Leauge. Daniel Levy is not stupid, he signs players that he knows will get us into the top half of the table. He couldn't care less about the Champions League because he hasn't backed not one manager that's achieved top 4. If Ange goes now, then Levy is going to bring in another puppet like Rodgers, Southgate or Potter. He told us that the last transfer window was a cost-cutting exercise, but the supporters will still blame the manager. Ange will get sacked and walk away with the biggest pay cheque of his career so far. The next manager comes in and will have to work with the same wage structure, which means he'll end up like all the managers before him.
You got the cost cutting exercise bit right. A £1billion stadium, then Levy gives himself a bonus with a £3 milllion pay rise - Wtf ?🤔.. How about Investing Properly!.
@@mydays4387 If I let my true feelings known, it would cause outrage. There's a reason why this club goes nowhere under Levy and Co. He see's us as cattle to be milked every day. He's a business man who's god is money. Some people have a sickness and Levy's ailment is gold and silver. The guy is 62 years of age, he could be living on yacht somewhere in the Mediterranean living the high life, but that's not what gets his dick hard. I can't see him selling up for another 5 to 10 years. And we'll most likely be involved in franchise football then. The new Champions League format is basically franchise football but they won't admit it yet.
I agree the problems are more than just Ange but with him here changing other things doesn't matter much because even with better players he would win nothing with his stupid tactics and lack of intelligence.
@@bb5979 best start? What's that got to do with the price of bread? He had a good (but very lucky, lets be honest) first 10 games, and then has been absolutely dreadful from then on. Over 13 months of 10th place form, bad cup showings, increasingly terrible recruitment, an awful system and leading us to bottom half of mid table with a good squad. Spurs have better players than Ange can show us. A better pressing manager, a CDM in January, and we'll start to see the beginnings of an awesome team.
@tails173 bahahaha. What a load of utter garbage. 3 windows and £300m is more than enough to make a decent side when you look at the quality ange inherited. Ange has been increasingly wasteful in the transfer market as he has seozed more control over transfers, and his football philosophy is simply beginners' stuff...
We have had all the managers we have wanted, and nothing has changed.... groundhog day on a massive scale...... there has to be some kind of action next home game..... SITTING QUIETLY IS NOT A OPTION....
The Poch era got us close. The team was build on a very modest budget and almost took us to the promised land. we started losing key players like Dembele, Tripps and Eriksen, the relationship betweentge board and Poch broke down, it started going down hill, so Poch got the chop and Levy was obviously trying to go for tgat ready made success with Jose. The story is obviously longer, but dont want to bore everyone, and i think that part highlights what i want to mention. I have a slightly different outlook on the owners. I see them going to efforts, i see them trying to push us on with also a series of club record signings. I dont actually think there is a lack of caring or effort, i do see them trying to get there. But they are trying to do it in a different way. And i do think the footballing decisions made have been awful. Why hire managers like Jose and Conte on record deals, knowing they are going to want the resources, but not giving it to them? Its crazy. And just the rate of effective signing from the weeds is ridiculously low when you look at the money weve spent on them. I am really struggling to figure out what the clubs plan is at the moment. They brought in an unknown gamble at this level of a manager, who is completely gung ho. Got rid of 22 players in 1 window (which did need to go) but replaced them with a few kids and a record signing average player Solanke. Cutting the wage bill by something like 40 mill a year. And never using the kids bought. Its just so chaotic at the moment. Nothing makes sense. I dont currently see any direction like what i could see in the past.
Totally agree with what you say , we r a mess , Antonio was right the owner do one nothings really going to change , bad situation there money making attribute, they spend just enough to keep us interested, in the summer they spent badly and got rid of a lot of players that probably wasn’t good enough anyway but look at the mess we’re in now
We have to stop blaming all the managers, because there is one common denominator in all of this and it's all down to ONE person..... LEVY! He is the man that hires and fires and has the final say in everything!. So we have to start to really putting levy in the firing line . He's been getting away with it for far too long. He doesn't care about the football club all he's interested in is Money that's why he's turned this football club into a multi sports stadium Where Tottenham Hotspur is secondary to everything.
@phil2068 Levy likes a yes man, if they are like Mourinho or Conte, he don't back them in the transfer market and when they have a moan about it he sacks them .
I really do feel I've got to stick up for Ange here (there's always one, right...) Ange knew he was going to get absolute pelters from the away fans and he still went over to applaud them, and that takes guts. All those players last night were a f**king disgrace for 96 minutes and it was they who should have got the bulk of the crap from the fans. I don't remember us having one single shot on target, our keystone cops defending was shambolic, and we got dominated by their hard press all over the pitch, even on the wings. I only hope to God Maresca wasn't watching that shower last night. Next Sunday is going to be one of those 'watch though my fingers' games. 💩💩💩💩 We keep playing like that and we're going to be fighting off relegation, and that's down to the players and nobody else!
Levy has been brillant to bring the club to where it is but the man has brought it as far as he can he doesnt want to bring success on the pitch so its time to sell up or bring big investnent into the club for a sole porpose to improve the squad with top quality players..the fans are sick to there teeth of this club changing msnager sfter manager when its the chairman who wont give the wages to get the top quualty in
Players are massively overrated. Owner is despicable. Club is currently rotten, unless you're into NFL and Go Karting and that's not why this club was set up !!!
Well said mate absolutely spot on with everything you said. The chairman is a success at consistent mediocrity when it comes to football side of the club. As long as he is in charge it will be rinse and repeat over and over again
If you want an honest opinion on that game, just listen to Alan Shearer verdict as co-commentator. Embarrassing again, not even sunday league standard. Pro Ange happy clappies saying give him 3/4 years, others saying what happens if we find another Manger ? . We bloody move on, why are they so positive about Ange, but yet negative about getting another manager ? Ange was a risk and a punt, his CV had no experience at this level and it is beginning to show.
At the end of the day all those people from Munn, Lange, Ange should go together with person who appointed them Levy and people like Paratici and Gabannini need to come back to fix this mess if it's possible at all. I expect concert "We want Levy out" on Sunday around 18 o'clock in stadium.
The club was already in a shit spot 5 managers before Ange. This isn't an Ange problem. Let's be serious. These players are not playing for the shirt. You can lead a horse to water.....a lot is behavioural.
ITS LEVY ITS LEWIS IT ENIC...NOT THE PLAYERS...ENIC DONT SIGN TOP LEVEL PLAYERS TO AVOID PAYING HIGH WAGES DESPITE MAKING £250 MIL A SEASON PROFITS..GET ENIC OUT
Been saying for a long time this guy is NOT the man to take us forward, zero in game management we all see what's happening on the pitch teams are dominating us getting massive space down our channels but he does nothing to stop it except fold his arms. I hate levy but this is not on him he gave conte Mourinho fuck all to improve the squad, This clown has been given £400 million and look how he had wasted it on kids and crap average players I know it's yet another manager but he has to GO...
If Bergvall and Son had come on at half-time Spurs could have won last night. Not having a set piece coach and then conceeding in that way is not a good look. Would not surprise me if Levy will be trying to get Iraola as Spurs manager, has all the same feeling about it as when he pinched Poch. It's not difficult to conclude that the manager did make the difference last night.
The reality is levys choice of managers over many years has been dreadful and led to the instability at the club .It seems he hires and fires to appease fans but will never change his thinking on how to get a winning mentality at the club .He invests in young players for the future, not the now, and results back this up, especially when we have injuries to senior players
I love how Spence was the only player that came over to Ange to console him when he was getting stick but he's treated Spence like 💩 Ange is one arrogant div!!
Levy aint going anywhere. And will never pay the wages needed to be able to produce a team capable of doing anything of significance. He got lucky under poch and the players we had at the time. But that was very short lived because of the lack of investment. So here we are on the verge of sacking another manager.. and round and round we go on the enic merry go round. . Minimal football investment compared to the other top teams but maximum profits!! Its genius ..
Ange is just part of the problem. Players, board etc all need to take some of the blame pie. But the buck always stops with the manager. Don't like the abuse Ange got tho, he is a human being and seems like a nice guy.
Igy, l agree with your comments. However, would you agree that we really do not have the quality players to deliver a consistent team effort. We make silly errors, and the concentration of the players in key moments has cost us every time. The chance we create in most cases should be goals. How is it possible on our day we can beat anyone. If this is the case, then the players are the cause, not Agne. They are just not good enough to perform the system.
Nobody turns up for the Enic/Levy protest. We don't get support from the fans. Levy isn't going anywhere. The managers will be the one to pay the price. Get Redknapp to manage the team till end of the season. He can get the best out of them.
This whole circus is unbearable. Totally agree, they will sack him, but without a plan other than keep the shit away from them. His stubborness will be his downfall, but be under no illusions that is a piss poor group of footballers that would not get in other top 6 sides, that have zero fight, and i do not think will improve for any other manager
Miserable game. Half those playing look like they're tired. The other half don't look like they have the strength to be effective in any position beyond 30 minutes. The tackles were poorly timed; the set-piece defending continues to look amateur football level and it shows. Nothing we can do about the injury list....other than ask why certain players are taking an age to recover. I think if i were Levy and Postecoglu I'd be saying right now NOBODY plays for their country until Tottenham hit top six. Maybe that would focus minds and effort toward the job they're being paid for.
The abusers are a very small minority, have some balance, I want Ange out because I am not convinced of his system and his tactical acumen is not good enough in my opinion, it is NOT personal to Ange.
Morning Igy another night of disappointment and frustration with this clueless fraud who’s been found out long ago major changes now needed with the board manager and coaches out Sunday is gonna be very toxic again cue the loud music at the end 🤔
For me Ange has to Go. He decides how we go about things on the pitch and it clearly doesn't work and yes the squad is not great but a better manager would manage the players better and would get more out of them. A change would give some respect to try to get as much out of a season as possible leaving it would make it worse for the club and the supporters and its future. I would like to see someone in new that is a proven premier League manager that can bring stability to the way we play . I just want a manager that has his way of playing and if we have issues in any particular area of the defence or midfield or upfront then he looks to adjust it. If a new manager has understanding of the premier League and levy and has a plan of his own knows who he would keep let go and have his own list of players to bring in to bring stability to the squad. I hope that makes the squad more stable. I want Levy out and Joe and Ange and his team of yes men behind him to Go. No Southgate or Mason thank you. David Moyes or Thomas frank or someone I have not named to bring stability to the club and the squad and build a more stable squad based on players they know and want to bring some respect to things and Graham potter or someone as temporary if going for Thomas frank. Levy out
Ange in ! We have to suck with a manager and a plan for longer than 18 months. It takes time. We can’t ‘buy’ a ready made team… it not what the ownership want to do. We know this, let’s stay together with Ange and these players and work on a longer term slower development!
Forest, Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth managers all doing better with less resources and less time in the premier league! We accept failure & mediocrity simple.
@ forest yes. But we know Nuno is not better than Ange. Brighton have a solid structure, and I believe Silva has been at Fulham longer than Ange. Bournemouth is playing well at times. Another note, our loses have all been by one goal… and the table is so tight. We could easily be above all of these teams, and I believe we will be by season’s end!
Well I guess Spurs should fold because Levy isn’t resigning and Ange won’t change tactics. A renovation always looks bad when you are in the middle of it. Spurs did not deserve to win against Bornmouth and Fullham but they also don’t have a full squad either. Plan A is to run the opposition off its feet. Plan B would be to tell the players it’s ok to be lazy. The team needs time.
Forest, Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth managers all doing better with less resources and less time in the premier league! We accept failure & mediocrity simple.
I dont believe its entirely Ange Pogs fault. But Pogs stubborness is a weakness. Levy IS the main problematic issue without a doubt. Injuries dont help, alot of players have this air of Entitlement about them. Players salaries across the Premier League in general are f***ing shocking, so is their networths!. Players salaries at PL clubs needs to be economically reasonable Not Astronomically🤔⚽️💷. How players Demand salaries is beyond me. More fool PL clubs for paying £70k upwards a week. Its pure greed!.
@ I am not sure what players salaries have to do with anything. The player is either soft or they are not soft. They either enjoy football or they don’t. They either get white line fever or they don’t. Who would say no to a bag of cash being thrown at them? I wouldn’t. Would you? I can tell you that Ange thrives in this environment, he lives to coach, he is not soft and has white line fever. He will find a solution to get out of the mud. You cannot deny that Spurs have a lot of injuries and a lot of holes that need to be plugged.
@@KK-qi6mt I hear you. I agree with you reference Ange Pos. The point of players salaries is their individual performances, week in, week out. Very few of them deserve their over the top salaries. Purely based on principle, i wouldnt accept a Huge wad of cash, if i didnt deem worthy. Thats just me though.
@ They are meant to be professional sportsmen. The money shouldn’t matter but yes they are soft. Rocky only breat Drago when he got back to basics. Having said all of this Ange is not soft. He lives and breathes football.
All too nice the clubs soft as shit. Stadium and training ground promotes weak minds. Far play to Ange having the stones to approach the fans. Bang average squad too
Very interesting following spurs as an American. Replace madders, so many of your problems will be solved. He’s one of the most selfish players I’ve ever seen. Thinks he’s Haaland.
Any success Ange P has had must have been bloody flukey! What liitle football brain he had, has totally evaporated since signing for Spurs! I mean what other manager deploys his tactics for any top team & gets success? He's a bloody chancer who got lucky because he will earn a big pot of money for basically destroying attractive, competitive football at our club. Please get him OUT!! Levy sell to a new owner you've had a good crack at it but you also have failed in winning anything.
When you make a mistake it ok when you make the same miste twice you’re an idiot… that’s thfc fans!!! Our fans are worse than rotten horse manure RELEGATION NEEDED!!!
Wouldn't be nice if you could sit down with the players and tell them straight that you are ruining this club etc etc we can't keep blaming the manager the players have to pull there fingers put of there ares
When you make a mistake it ok when you make the same miste twice you’re an idiot… that’s thfc fans!!! Our fans are worse than rotten horse manure RELEGATION NEEDED!!!
@ dropped my season ticket after poch got sacked. But I may buy one for the future…. Where have you heard that before. I don’t but anything related to thfc!
Can we now have a serious talk about this manager?
4 away wins in 2024. Lost the last 8 away games out of 12
Plays the same tactics, regardless of home and away. Refuses to adapt in games when needed. Brings on defensive subs when we need a goal.
Says some bizarre things in post match interviews which makes me think he is a yes man.
Plays a ridiculous high line when forced to play 2 slower centre backs and inverted fullbacks, so technically we only play with 2 defensive players. This also means when we attack and commit players, when the ball is inevitably taken from us in a turnover. The opposition have more time and space to finish.
0% of our goal kicks get lumped up the field to try and exploit Solanke's height. All kicks are played out from the back time and time again we get caught out by a single lack of concentration which ends up rattling us in certain games.
We have dropped the most points from winning positions. This shows a real lack of mental strength and game management.
We padded our squad with expensive inexperienced youth who are struggling in this already inconsistent team. Also this desire to play blistering pop gun football is causing more and more injuries.
'But Ange has had loads of injuries and he hasn't got his full 11'
This is a BS argument put forward. We have not been good since Chelsea gave us a hiding at home last season. Ange has been well and truly found out since that game and he still fails to adapt to each opponent.
What does Djed Spence have to do to get in this team, when we select 4 goal keepers for our Europa League squad.
'But we beat Utd and City'
Yes, both teams going through their low points and will still finish higher than us.
When City beat us in the FA Cup last year, Pep put an extra man on Vicario because he noticed that we only zonal mark. Since then we have been hounded on set pieces because we don't man mark. Look at the goal Bournemouth scored today.
We have to recognise the following:
Ange signed off on Timo Werner twice!!!! £165k a week!
£65m spent on one season wonder and tap in merchant Solanke
£30m on Archie Gray. Yes great potential, but £30m!!!
Johnson has goals...yes ill give him some credit, but in build up play his first ball always hits the man and rarely makes it into the box.
Playing with no real number 6 and then expecting Bissouma who is an 8 to adapt is not working. Maddison not playing in his best position as a 10 and often seeing him near his own box having to make tackles. This is not his speciality. He has high goal and assist contributions for a reason, but we play him deeper in some games.
Sad to say, but i think Son is done on the wing, he can't beat a man anymore and should be played as a shadow striker. Also with the inverted fullbacks udogie is taking up space and things get congested on the left.
Udogie has also regressed, he rarely puts in a cross, he gets into the box and then always tries a pass to Son, regardless of where he is. I miss his aggression and running to the by-line.
Generally most players have regressed under Ange bar Porro.
I don't even get excited when going to watch Spurs now. I don't know which team will turn up. I don't know which players will turn up. However the same patterns of play are happening over and over again and I don't understand how Ange cannot see this.
I know I am an armchair fan, but the eye test is suggesting we are just a team of busy idiots. Rushing around looking industrious, but it produces nothing.
Unfortunately unless Levy puts his hands in his pockets and buys some players of genuine quality and not players that are simply available, then I fear it's over for Ange.
I want to like the guy, but sadly you have all been gaslit into thinking attacking football is in our DNA. I don't care what football we play, I just want us to look semi professional and maybe even try to win something.....we don't seem to have a winning culture. More we are just happy to be there
Conte was right
Great post. I think it is very tough for Spurs because the 'top five' clubs all have a lot more resources than Spurs, ie the four at the top plus Man United.
Tamworth must fancy their chances, especially at set pieces ! 🤔😉
Come on Tamworth! We might then see the back of man who can only win trophies in a two horse race.🏴
@@andylloyd1987 it's like watching a repeat of the game , every game we play is the same , same play same tactics, other teams know how to play us .
Interesting statement there, alot sadly i cant disagree with.
Your last paragraph, the semi professional.
Last night againest B'rnmouth reminded me annoyingly of close to being a non league ⚽️ side🤔.
Forster showed alot of courage and saved COYS bacon. Kuleuvski is about the only one with determination attempting to rescue scorelines, points & Premier League standings.
Son looks utterly lost, has done for awhile.
Maddison seems to fluctuate with performances😐.
Solanke, i dont know what to make of him.
Would reducing the players salaries according to their performances hold any clout ?.
Changing Manager again!🤔. Wont achieve anything at all.
Except further unsettlement, including :
⚽️ severance pay.
⚽️ another manager to get used to.
⚽️ more players in & out to suit there structure & strategy.
⚽️ different training methods or possibly the same with yet more of same fluctuating results, nothing achieved.
⚽️ PLUS, other managers & clubs talk to each other. They'll stealthy advise one another - Dont go to Spurs.
⚽️ Just where tf do Spurs go from here 🤔 ?.
Does Levy & ENIC need to put a statement out showing determination moving forwards ?.
⚽️ STAY with Ange Post with conditions he HAS to adapt style of play accordingly & stop being so efn stubborn 🗣😡.
Well said Igy. Two things can be true at once plus Levy and ENIC are a MASSIVE problem at our club whilst the Australian Bielsa is completely out of his depth👍
I'm sorry, but just because he is not the main problem, doesn't mean he is immune to be called out
The man needs more time igy, we have so many injuries at the moment
Igy man, there's no room for top quality ready-made players at this club. Every manager will fail because of the wage structure. Levy's already signed Solanke - Odoberg and Johnson: so that's 3 forwards that are nowhere near the standard that we need to even try to get 90 goals a season.
Son is in the twilight of his career and waning. Maddison has three years left at least of top quality, but he's working with rubbish.
Remember, Levy signed Kulusevski on the back of just 2 goals for the whole season in the Premier League, and nothing has changed as he's got 2 goals now with 3 assists in the Premier Leauge.
Daniel Levy is not stupid, he signs players that he knows will get us into the top half of the table. He couldn't care less about the Champions League because he hasn't backed not one manager that's achieved top 4. If Ange goes now, then Levy is going to bring in another puppet like Rodgers, Southgate or Potter.
He told us that the last transfer window was a cost-cutting exercise, but the supporters will still blame the manager. Ange will get sacked and walk away with the biggest pay cheque of his career so far. The next manager comes in and will have to work with the same wage structure, which means he'll end up like all the managers before him.
You got the cost cutting exercise bit right.
A £1billion stadium, then Levy gives himself a bonus with a £3 milllion pay rise - Wtf ?🤔.. How about Investing Properly!.
@@mydays4387 If I let my true feelings known, it would cause outrage. There's a reason why this club goes nowhere under Levy and Co. He see's us as cattle to be milked every day. He's a business man who's god is money. Some people have a sickness and Levy's ailment is gold and silver. The guy is 62 years of age, he could be living on yacht somewhere in the Mediterranean living the high life, but that's not what gets his dick hard. I can't see him selling up for another 5 to 10 years. And we'll most likely be involved in franchise football then. The new Champions League format is basically franchise football but they won't admit it yet.
I agree the problems are more than just Ange but with him here changing other things doesn't matter much because even with better players he would win nothing with his stupid tactics and lack of intelligence.
@@bb5979 10 games out of 50??? That is good enough? We beat City under every manager. We have been dominated far more than dominating anyone.
@@bb5979 best start? What's that got to do with the price of bread? He had a good (but very lucky, lets be honest) first 10 games, and then has been absolutely dreadful from then on. Over 13 months of 10th place form, bad cup showings, increasingly terrible recruitment, an awful system and leading us to bottom half of mid table with a good squad.
Spurs have better players than Ange can show us. A better pressing manager, a CDM in January, and we'll start to see the beginnings of an awesome team.
He's rebuilding a rotten core. Shit doesn't happen in 3 windows.
@tails173 bahahaha. What a load of utter garbage. 3 windows and £300m is more than enough to make a decent side when you look at the quality ange inherited. Ange has been increasingly wasteful in the transfer market as he has seozed more control over transfers, and his football philosophy is simply beginners' stuff...
@@tails173 LOL there is no rebuild.
Great show Igy, I don't know how you feel but when you start losing the away support, it doesn't bore well for the manager
We have had all the managers we have wanted, and nothing has changed.... groundhog day on a massive scale...... there has to be some kind of action next home game..... SITTING QUIETLY IS NOT A OPTION....
If the board see 20 ANGE OUT banners, Ang will be gone - that is how it works !
@TooDarnSoulful we need 20 levy out banners as well.....
ENIC OUT BANNERS IS WHAT WE WANT
2,000 Levy Out banners would be better!
@@tonykemp3432 👏👏 well said!.
I can see the players are, simply, tired of running their butts off ... for anybody 😡
The Poch era got us close.
The team was build on a very modest budget and almost took us to the promised land.
we started losing key players like Dembele, Tripps and Eriksen, the relationship betweentge board and Poch broke down, it started going down hill, so Poch got the chop and Levy was obviously trying to go for tgat ready made success with Jose.
The story is obviously longer, but dont want to bore everyone, and i think that part highlights what i want to mention.
I have a slightly different outlook on the owners.
I see them going to efforts, i see them trying to push us on with also a series of club record signings.
I dont actually think there is a lack of caring or effort, i do see them trying to get there. But they are trying to do it in a different way. And i do think the footballing decisions made have been awful.
Why hire managers like Jose and Conte on record deals, knowing they are going to want the resources, but not giving it to them? Its crazy.
And just the rate of effective signing from the weeds is ridiculously low when you look at the money weve spent on them.
I am really struggling to figure out what the clubs plan is at the moment. They brought in an unknown gamble at this level of a manager, who is completely gung ho. Got rid of 22 players in 1 window (which did need to go) but replaced them with a few kids and a record signing average player Solanke. Cutting the wage bill by something like 40 mill a year.
And never using the kids bought.
Its just so chaotic at the moment. Nothing makes sense.
I dont currently see any direction like what i could see in the past.
SIGN MEN NOT CHILDREN...LEADERS NOT PUSSIES...
Totally agree with what you say , we r a mess , Antonio was right the owner do one nothings really going to change , bad situation there money making attribute, they spend just enough to keep us interested, in the summer they spent badly and got rid of a lot of players that probably wasn’t good enough anyway but look at the mess we’re in now
We have to stop blaming all the managers, because there is one common denominator in all of this and it's all down to ONE person..... LEVY!
He is the man that hires and fires and has the final say in everything!.
So we have to start to really putting levy in the firing line . He's been getting away with it for far too long. He doesn't care about the football club all he's interested in is Money that's why he's turned this football club into a multi sports stadium
Where Tottenham Hotspur is secondary to everything.
Another manager would just be another yes man.
Keeping a failed one isn’t the solution either
What then another rebuild then 14 months time you start shouting about that manager.
@phil2068 Levy likes a yes man, if they are like Mourinho or Conte, he don't back them in the transfer market and when they have a moan about it he sacks them .
@@yamyam3905Levy is a muppet.
I really do feel I've got to stick up for Ange here (there's always one, right...) Ange knew he was going to get absolute pelters from the away fans and he still went over to applaud them, and that takes guts. All those players last night were a f**king disgrace for 96 minutes and it was they who should have got the bulk of the crap from the fans. I don't remember us having one single shot on target, our keystone cops defending was shambolic, and we got dominated by their hard press all over the pitch, even on the wings. I only hope to God Maresca wasn't watching that shower last night. Next Sunday is going to be one of those 'watch though my fingers' games. 💩💩💩💩 We keep playing like that and we're going to be fighting off relegation, and that's down to the players and nobody else!
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Levy has been brillant to bring the club to where it is but the man has brought it as far as he can he doesnt want to bring success on the pitch so its time to sell up or bring big investnent into the club for a sole porpose to improve the squad with top quality players..the fans are sick to there teeth of this club changing msnager sfter manager when its the chairman who wont give the wages to get the top quualty in
Players are massively overrated. Owner is despicable. Club is currently rotten, unless you're into NFL and Go Karting and that's not why this club was set up !!!
Well said mate absolutely spot on with everything you said. The chairman is a success at consistent mediocrity when it comes to football side of the club.
As long as he is in charge it will be rinse and repeat over and over again
Players ain't stupid they know that this schoolboy down the line and cross to the opposition and they counter is not the way
Tottenham Hotspur events arena not football stadium can't you see what is happening
Still no naming rights 🤔🤔
Wish levy work listen to the fans and go first
Time to make a stand on this as fans .... this is not acceptable anymore... levy out !! Lange out!!! And imposter out!!!
When will the DVD about the Man City victory be released?
😂😂😂😂😂
The problem is obvious
But ange don't help by playing the same way with less players and continuing to ignore Spence for gray
Maybe he’s getting pressure to start “one of their own”
i hate levy , but this defo 80% on ange ! most over protected manager we had based on nothing !
If you want an honest opinion on that game, just listen to Alan Shearer verdict as co-commentator.
Embarrassing again, not even sunday league standard.
Pro Ange happy clappies saying give him 3/4 years, others saying what happens if we find another Manger ? . We bloody move on, why are they so positive about Ange, but yet negative about getting another manager ? Ange was a risk and a punt, his CV had no experience at this level and it is beginning to show.
At the end of the day all those people from Munn, Lange, Ange should go together with person who appointed them Levy and people like Paratici and Gabannini need to come back to fix this mess if it's possible at all. I expect concert "We want Levy out" on Sunday around 18 o'clock in stadium.
The club was already in a shit spot 5 managers before Ange. This isn't an Ange problem. Let's be serious. These players are not playing for the shirt. You can lead a horse to water.....a lot is behavioural.
ITS LEVY ITS LEWIS IT ENIC...NOT THE PLAYERS...ENIC DONT SIGN TOP LEVEL PLAYERS TO AVOID PAYING HIGH WAGES DESPITE MAKING £250 MIL A SEASON PROFITS..GET ENIC OUT
Been saying for a long time this guy is NOT the man to take us forward, zero in game management we all see what's happening on the pitch teams are dominating us getting massive space down our channels but he does nothing to stop it except fold his arms.
I hate levy but this is not on him he gave conte Mourinho fuck all to improve the squad,
This clown has been given £400 million and look how he had wasted it on kids and crap average players I know it's yet another manager but he has to GO...
If Bergvall and Son had come on at half-time Spurs could have won last night. Not having a set piece coach and then conceeding in that way is not a good look. Would not surprise me if Levy will be trying to get Iraola as Spurs manager, has all the same feeling about it as when he pinched Poch. It's not difficult to conclude that the manager did make the difference last night.
hopefully we can keep it below 5 0 sunday.
The reality is levys choice of managers over many years has been dreadful and led to the instability at the club .It seems he hires and fires to appease fans but will never change his thinking on how to get a winning mentality at the club .He invests in young players for the future, not the now, and results back this up, especially when we have injuries to senior players
I love how Spence was the only player that came over to Ange to console him when he was getting stick but he's treated Spence like 💩
Ange is one arrogant div!!
Levy aint going anywhere. And will never pay the wages needed to be able to produce a team capable of doing anything of significance. He got lucky under poch and the players we had at the time. But that was very short lived because of the lack of investment. So here we are on the verge of sacking another manager.. and round and round we go on the enic merry go round. . Minimal football investment compared to the other top teams but maximum profits!! Its genius ..
Ange is just part of the problem. Players, board etc all need to take some of the blame pie. But the buck always stops with the manager. Don't like the abuse Ange got tho, he is a human being and seems like a nice guy.
Igy, l agree with your comments. However, would you agree that we really do not have the quality players to deliver a consistent team effort. We make silly errors, and the concentration of the players in key moments has cost us every time. The chance we create in most cases should be goals. How is it possible on our day we can beat anyone. If this is the case, then the players are the cause, not Agne. They are just not good enough to perform the system.
Nobody turns up for the Enic/Levy protest. We don't get support from the fans. Levy isn't going anywhere. The managers will be the one to pay the price. Get Redknapp to manage the team till end of the season. He can get the best out of them.
Son is no good as a captain and I think he is over the hill . We lost to a 19 year bold last night it was awful to watch .
Neither is Maddison good enough as Capt'n.
Big up Igy, everything at spurs is rubbish at the moment. The owners to blame for everything. The players are not good plus Ange is stubborn.
Has Levy signed the brilliant Burmese player Oh Mi Wat Acokup yet ?
I've a strong feeling that Chelsea on Sunday will be Ange Postecoglu's last game in charge.
or Man U 18 Dec
This whole circus is unbearable. Totally agree, they will sack him, but without a plan other than keep the shit away from them. His stubborness will be his downfall, but be under no illusions that is a piss poor group of footballers that would not get in other top 6 sides, that have zero fight, and i do not think will improve for any other manager
Miserable game.
Half those playing look like they're tired. The other half don't look like they have the strength to be effective in any position beyond 30 minutes.
The tackles were poorly timed; the set-piece defending continues to look amateur football level and it shows.
Nothing we can do about the injury list....other than ask why certain players are taking an age to recover.
I think if i were Levy and Postecoglu I'd be saying right now NOBODY plays for their country until Tottenham hit top six.
Maybe that would focus minds and effort toward the job they're being paid for.
At last.....Someone with a brain in his head. This abuse is unacceptable...its only football. And yes we were terrible last night.
The abusers are a very small minority, have some balance, I want Ange out because I am not convinced of his system and his tactical acumen is not good enough in my opinion, it is NOT personal to Ange.
Been terrible for over a year WAKE UP stop being deluded
Levy will never go ..think it's time for another bonus for him ?
Morning Igy another night of disappointment and frustration with this clueless fraud who’s been found out long ago major changes now needed with the board manager and coaches out Sunday is gonna be very toxic again cue the loud music at the end 🤔
there wont be many left in the ground at the end.
For me Ange has to Go. He decides how we go about things on the pitch and it clearly doesn't work and yes the squad is not great but a better manager would manage the players better and would get more out of them. A change would give some respect to try to get as much out of a season as possible leaving it would make it worse for the club and the supporters and its future. I would like to see someone in new that is a proven premier League manager that can bring stability to the way we play . I just want a manager that has his way of playing and if we have issues in any particular area of the defence or midfield or upfront then he looks to adjust it. If a new manager has understanding of the premier League and levy and has a plan of his own knows who he would keep let go and have his own list of players to bring in to bring stability to the squad. I hope that makes the squad more stable. I want Levy out and Joe and Ange and his team of yes men behind him to Go. No Southgate or Mason thank you. David Moyes or Thomas frank or someone I have not named to bring stability to the club and the squad and build a more stable squad based on players they know and want to bring some respect to things and Graham potter or someone as temporary if going for Thomas frank. Levy out
Ange in ! We have to suck with a manager and a plan for longer than 18 months. It takes time. We can’t ‘buy’ a ready made team… it not what the ownership want to do. We know this, let’s stay together with Ange and these players and work on a longer term slower development!
Forest, Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth managers all doing better with less resources and less time in the premier league!
We accept failure & mediocrity simple.
@ forest yes. But we know Nuno is not better than Ange. Brighton have a solid structure, and I believe Silva has been at Fulham longer than Ange. Bournemouth is playing well at times. Another note, our loses have all been by one goal… and the table is so tight. We could easily be above all of these teams, and I believe we will be by season’s end!
IHHYTALKING SENSE
Well I guess Spurs should fold because Levy isn’t resigning and Ange won’t change tactics. A renovation always looks bad when you are in the middle of it. Spurs did not deserve to win against Bornmouth and Fullham but they also don’t have a full squad either. Plan A is to run the opposition off its feet. Plan B would be to tell the players it’s ok to be lazy. The team needs time.
Forest, Brighton, Fulham and Bournemouth managers all doing better with less resources and less time in the premier league!
We accept failure & mediocrity simple.
I dont believe its entirely Ange Pogs fault. But Pogs stubborness is a weakness.
Levy IS the main problematic issue without a doubt.
Injuries dont help, alot of players have this air of Entitlement about them.
Players salaries across the Premier League in general are f***ing shocking, so is their networths!.
Players salaries at PL clubs needs to be economically reasonable Not Astronomically🤔⚽️💷.
How players Demand salaries is beyond me. More fool PL clubs for paying £70k upwards a week. Its pure greed!.
@ I am not sure what players salaries have to do with anything. The player is either soft or they are not soft. They either enjoy football or they don’t. They either get white line fever or they don’t. Who would say no to a bag of cash being thrown at them? I wouldn’t. Would you?
I can tell you that Ange thrives in this environment, he lives to coach, he is not soft and has white line fever. He will find a solution to get out of the mud. You cannot deny that Spurs have a lot of injuries and a lot of holes that need to be plugged.
@@KK-qi6mt I hear you.
I agree with you reference Ange Pos.
The point of players salaries is their individual performances, week in, week out.
Very few of them deserve their over the top salaries.
Purely based on principle, i wouldnt accept a Huge wad of cash, if i didnt deem worthy. Thats just me though.
@ They are meant to be professional sportsmen. The money shouldn’t matter but yes they are soft. Rocky only breat Drago when he got back to basics. Having said all of this Ange is not soft. He lives and breathes football.
I think it’s time the chicken badge was changed, it brings so much bad luck and a chicken doesn’t inspire the players 🐔
A KFC badge is more appropriate 😅⚽️.
All too nice the clubs soft as shit. Stadium and training ground promotes weak minds.
Far play to Ange having the stones to approach the fans. Bang average squad too
Honest to God, the amount of howling from fans is unbelievable. Give it a rest.
You choose to be here
Very interesting following spurs as an American. Replace madders, so many of your problems will be solved. He’s one of the most selfish players I’ve ever seen. Thinks he’s Haaland.
Any success Ange P has had must have been bloody flukey! What liitle football brain he had, has totally evaporated since signing for Spurs! I mean what other manager deploys his tactics for any top team & gets success? He's a bloody chancer who got lucky because he will earn a big pot of money for basically destroying attractive, competitive football at our club. Please get him OUT!! Levy sell to a new owner you've had a good crack at it but you also have failed in winning anything.
When you make a mistake it ok when you make the same miste twice you’re an idiot… that’s thfc fans!!! Our fans are worse than rotten horse manure
RELEGATION NEEDED!!!
Told ya what the problem is every season n all ya lot say is I’m anti semetic. Facts are facts time to admit them
What did you tell us?
Stop with your crap Iggy, Sack the bluffer now, why keep a dud ? Even Stel has now joined Ange out.
Wouldn't be nice if you could sit down with the players and tell them straight that you are ruining this club etc etc we can't keep blaming the manager the players have to pull there fingers put of there ares
When you make a mistake it ok when you make the same miste twice you’re an idiot… that’s thfc fans!!! Our fans are worse than rotten horse manure
RELEGATION NEEDED!!!
do you get to go to many games?
@ dropped my season ticket after poch got sacked. But I may buy one for the future…. Where have you heard that before. I don’t but anything related to thfc!