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CM Punk walking out of WWE in 2014 actually had a lot of pros to it Due to his departure, it helped lead to plans for WrestleMania changing Specifically, Daniel Bryan actually having his moment as opposed to a standard one on one match between Orton and Batista for the title
@@pleaseshutup7053 dude what? Everybody else was against Bryan reaching the top in the first place and when he got the point he did, no one wanted to put him over. Batista himself said he wasn’t selfish and since he was already an established star he agreed to put Bryan over. Everyone else backstage was against Daniel Bryan. Batista himself said he wanted to put Bryan over and agreed to tap out to him and that it wasn’t a big deal at all to him and he wanted to see Bryan succeed. He could’ve abused backstage politics but didn’t
Jeff Hardy losing to punk made me leave for basically a decade, watched wrestlemania 39 for fun years later, I’ve since not missed a show, went to fast lane, wrestlemania 40, and have tickets for summer slam. Roman brought me back.
Charollete beating Asuka at WrestleMania after winning the first-ever women's Royal Rumble not only felt like a waste of everything they built up but a complete halt of all the momentum
@@zeospark9715 if that was the case they could have had asuka win at wrestlemania, and charlotte then beating asuka at summerslam or maybe even earlier
Interesting note of being a casual TH-cam fan, in the UK we are almost forced to be casual TH-cam fans because the vast majority of us are not staying up until 4am to finish an episode of raw.
Yeah, I started watching wwe TH-cam again on September 2023 and slowly got hooked as now I watch it differently than when I was a teenager. So Friday morning and Monday after work is when I watch the highlights
For me, it was when Benoit died. Remember, Vince had just been “murdered” with a car bomb, and then the next week, he stood in the ring alone to tell the world that one of my favorite performers ever (at the time) had died. Then, to find out what Benoit actually did was just too much for my 13-year-old mind to handle, and I quit watching until 2022.
See I am consider casual fan because most of my wrestling comes from TH-cam but that’s because I hate the commercials don’t have cable and don’t particularly like the matches on raw and smack down. I like seeing the story progression. I must say though TikTok has made watching wrestling online so much better because of guys like you santi. Yall don’t show the narrative that wwe wants to push yall show what the fans want to see. So thank you for that. It’s nice to watch a full promo online without edits
I used to watch with my grandpa and he passed away end of 2012 and I stopped caring but I’ve been back for a few years now and I love it better than ever I started to keep tabs on certain people
"I've been a "Casual TH-cam fan" for a few years, and actually have never seen an episode of either Raw or Smackdown. That will change (at least partially) once Raw goes to Netflix.
I stopped watching around 2017 I'd say I can't really remember exactly tho but I started watching again at the 2023 Road to Wrestlemania and caught myself up with what I had missed with full story vids.
Speaking of the pandemic era, I actually got back into wrestling again during the thunder dome era (thanks to the bloodline storyline starting during then) and loved the thunder dome era. However under no circumstances do I plan on ever returning to any of those matches again, as great as they may be, even with roman thriving off the quieter subtlety I simply can’t bring myself to watch a pandemic match. (Performance center promos on the other hand, they hit different I can’t lie) Edit: I just watched the women’s triple threat from Takeover in your house and am immediately taking it back
Vince buried Kofi for Cain vs Brock in Saudi. I was also in attendance for Hell in a Cell 2018 and the ending upset everyone. For those who don't remember Brock interfered during Roman vs Braun and the match ended in a no contest. After the match ended, everyone started chanting this is bullshit and refund. 😂
The thing that got me back into wrestling was the bloodline storyline, and roman reigns as the tribal chief. He was my favourite when i was younger and still the same now for a different reason. I'm glad he is now being acknowledged.☝️
I basically stopped for about a year and a half until Edge came back, he brought me back into wrestling and Roman becoming tribal chief kept me watching. All things considered 2020 wasn't all that bad for me from a viewer standpoint
As an attitude era fan, I can say that once the “invasion angle” started us when I tuned out and basically tuned out through WM40… so a little more than 20 full years of not watching WWE shows.. I’d tune in from time to time and saw Jeff Hardy as champ, Edge as champ… not that those were terrible champions cuz they weren’t once I caught up with things.. but knowing they were mid carders when I was watching it felt like a “fall off” of sorts?
Personally for me is When Roman Reigns beat The Undertaker at WM 33 I was so mad I almost quit watching wrestling all together and I seriously wanted to break my Tv (Thankfully I didn’t) and I Realized hey tomorrow is the night after WM and as a wwe fan I can’t miss that and ever since I kept on watching. Another time was the pandemic era but The Hurt business saved it for me.
@@NintendoFighter9000But it's nowhere terrible though At least Raw and Smackdown at least Didn't feel like a drag And waste of time But 2017 Worst year in WWE
I stopped watching WWE towards the end of pandemic and came back at Wrestlmania 40. I feel like I missed some amazing stuff in this time and kinda regret it because I was really close to getting through the pandemic era.
For me it was the royal rumble 2022 i wanted to quit but i stayed because of Roman reigns and the Bloodline 90% of all bad things that happend that made fans quit were because of brock winning some random shit he didn’t have to win
I forgot when I stopped watching WWE stuff for a while. Then I saw something with the judgement day and got interested. More specifically Finn Balor stood out and I got hooked to the story of him trying to get the world heavyweight championship. Been watching since then
I started out as a youtube fan, but that is what got me into wrestling, as well as watching wrestlemania 39 as my first wwe show ever. i saw it on peacock, and it was the first wwe taping or airing i ever saw.
The streak ending. It didn't matter that Daniel Bryan got his moment, he was gonna relinquish his title anyway a few weeks later and the god awful Roman push started soon. Plus Punk was gone too. I only returned when CM Punk returned at Survivor series and it has been amazing since
I stopped after Wrestlemania 36 until late 2022. Taker retired, poor treatment of Bray (besides the funhouse), Rhea Ripley and Shayna losing to the horsewomen, and all around strange vibes since 2018-2019 that just made me not want to stick around. While I poked in here and there that was basically it for two years but the Triple H era brought me back
i think Rock taking the WM 29 Main Event from CM Punk really was something that made me realize when i was in high school that i like Pro Wrestling but not in the state it was at that time. Like Punk vs Taker was cool but not much else was and then Punk left and i just stopped caring and im not a big punk fan but he ws the most interesting thing in wwe back then so when he was gone so was I. I saw a thing here and there till about WM 34 i think and then I didnt come back to watching any WWE till right before Crown Jewel 2023 why then idk but since then ive been keeping up since.
7:53 thank you so much for saying this genuinely. i stopped watching for most of the time rhea was out and i felt like a “fake fan” or whatever for doing that but i agree, it’s valid to not watch based off of who isn’t there. i think that should be more normal.
I came into WWE at a weird time. I became a fan in 2011, right before WrestleMania. Thankfully I missed the weekly host and super PG era. I witnessed the last gasp of the PG era’s greatness, Summer of Punk, Zack Ryder’s rise through TH-cam, Yes Movement, Wyatt Family, The Shield. Around 2016 I stopped watching because of a culmination of me getting bullied for being a wrestling fan and seeing how bad the product was really becoming. I would see WWE on TV or social media from time to time and still play the games, but I never really got back into it, especially after the abysmal years of 2017-2019. I watched the 2020 Royal Rumble because of Edge coming back, but it still wasn’t enough. Fast forward to 2023, it’s the month before WrestleMania 39, I had only heard of the Bloodline and Cody’s rise to the main event but I never got to witness it. One of my friends had been insisting that I watch WWE again because of how good it had gotten, but I was still very skeptical. We sat down and watched the absolute peak that was Wrestlemania 39 and I was hooked. I got really into it again, watched all the PLE’s, started picking my favorites and even attended my first taping of Monday Night Raw, where I got to witness one of the classic Gable v Gunther matches. I also got to witness two epic returns, Punk and Orton. Fast forward to Wrestlemania 40. Me and a group of close friends were all gathered and watching both nights of absolute cinema. After witnessing the last five minutes of the main event and Cody finishing the story, I was locked in for life. I’m currently making plans to attend another taping of Raw and potentially even WrestleMania 41. I’m also working on getting into ring shape and have plans to move to Houston and train to be a professional wrestler at Booker T’s wrestling school. In the words of Michael Cole, “Damn, I love professional wrestling!”
I always thought giving the Bray Wyatt aka the Fiend the championship was a cool idea in that they could've booked him in a way everyone was scared to face him, but decided to try because he held the belt and he was able to choose who he wanted to face to get his own revenge tour
When The Hurt Business broke up right after Bobby Lashley won the WWE Championship, I actually stopped watching until Clash At The Castle 2022. Vince truly infuriated so many of us doing that moronic booking.
Can we talk about how we are living WCW vs WWE again. WWE was awful so people started tuning into WCW and everyone was going there. Then the attitude era came around and WCW made bad booking decisions and died. Now it’s WWE was extraordinarily bad and AEW was coming into play and it was amazing with all your favorite wrestlers going over there so you tuned in. Now The Renaissance Era is here and WWE is the best it’s ever been after the worst low ever while AEW is making bad booking decisions, so it’s dying.
@@pleaseshutup7053Yup. There's nothing more entertaining than listening to some self absorbed D-bag say THE EXACT SAME THING we've heard him say about 10,000 times before!
I get your point entirely, but then again, it's The Rock. What we got from January to April really is some of the best stuff to come from the WWE ever. If not for The Rock and pretty much everything he did, WrestleMania 40 would not have been as special as it was. I agree with your general point, but this is more of a case where the good heavily outweighs the bad.
@@jameslemm3282 I would have been completely happy with the AMAZING current roster doing WM 40 without The Crock. Everything gets MORE BORING when he's around to do his annoying, UNBELIEVABLY MONOTONOUS promos!!!!
@@jameslemm3282 The Rock only did two things, recycled promos from his earlier years and rode on the coattails of Roman's Bloodline storyline and Cody finishing his story. The only good that came out of that was that Roman beat the most Wrestlemania Main Events record. Cody's win would've happened either way. If there wasn't that, The Rock wouldn't have had anything to come back for. He's still riding on Roman's & Cody's names trying to come back within the 2024-2025 year. Sorry I'm not a fan.🤷♀️
The time I stopped watching wrestling was when Layla failed to reclaim the Divas championship. Her opponent was Eve, and it was on raw, and Layla was on the second rope, and Eve kicked her foot to fall. Even though Layla was able to put her foot on the rope, the referee was not able to see it, and Eve again kicked her foot off of the bottom rope, even though she secured the win.
My biggest flex as a WWE fan is that I never stopped. In the lows especially, never left them. Been loyal since 2015 when I started. I’m a simple man 😌
2015-2022 were the dark days for me. I would always watch WWE at the start of the year so I can watch Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. I would tune out after since it was mostly terrible. Especially when Vince was desperately trying to make Roman the “top guy.”
Shinsuke losing to AJ at mania got me off for years. Not cuz I don’t like AJ but shinsuke should have won the title at that mania and the fact that the match was ok at best really set me off the edge.
I stopped watching WWE in 2009 when Jeff Hardy left because he is my favorite of all time! However, still kept up on Facebook and their own website for almost 2 years. I'd primarily watch TNA because of Hardy, so, when he had THAT incident in 2011, I stopped watching wrestling all together for about 2 months. Punk's Pipebomb is what got me hooked back into watching WWE for roughly 3 years, I stopped again when Punk walked out of WWE. Only to continue again in 2016 and have been watching on an almost weekly basis, but 2019 was really close to being my breaking point.
The Pandemic was awful all around. It was admirable that the WWE was still putting on weekly TV. I was grateful for anything. Even when it was bad. It was new and interesting at a time we needed something. I acknowledge it's bad compared to everything else, but give me Seth gouging out Rey's eye over nothing during an era I was stuck in my house and couldn't work.
I feel like vince knew his time was up so he wanted to make it as hard as possible for triple h lol. The fact that ronda lost at wrestlemania, only to later win at backlash? And brock for some reason won the wwe championship at elimination chamber for no reason. Which messed up the main event scene for another year.
For me it was the bobby sisters segments i had a existential dilemma 😂😂 Maybe im too old for this now , i stopped when the fiend lost and got back on the smackdown that the fans made their return and I've been hooked since
Roman Reigns' heel turn. I was a babyface Roman fanboy. I was also absent for most of 2019 after Roman left coz of Lukemia. I was basically a kid so I didn't like him turning heel. Then got busy in stuff so WWE didn't cross my mind as it used to. Then suddenly I got remembered it is WM season and watched the Triple Threat bw McIntyre, Sheamus and Gunther. Haven't missed a show since
I never stopped watching wrestling but i almost did multiple times. The first time was during the big dog roman reigns era then i almost stopped watching again when they kept screwing over the fiend then the last time was summerslam 2021-presami bloodline era which a lot of people are forgetting was really hated on.
For me, it was when Undertaker retired, for years, especially the last years of the 2010's Undertaker, was the one reason I would watch anything WWE, it wasn't until 2022 survivor series I started watching WWE again
Day 60 of asking Santi to make a “Mt Rushmores of WWE” video E.g. Mt Rushmores of technical wrestlers, sellers, comedy characters, mic workers, best heels, greatest matches, finishers, managers, entrance themes, and GOATs
If I put my mind to it, I think of at least one thing from each of the last 15 years or so that took me out of wrestling altogether… 2009: not a great year for the company as a whole, super Cena was beyond annoying at this point, guest host era, etc 2010: The burial of the Nexus 2011: Mania 27 was arguably the worst ever… then, the mishandling of CM Punk 2012: The mishandling of Daniel Bryan and not giving the Rumble win to Chris Jericho 2013: Twice in a Lifetime, Mania 29 as a whole, Bryan gets lost in Authority-based purgatory 2014: Mistreatment of CM Punk comes to light, the fascination with Batista 2015: The fascination and force feeding of Roman Reigns 2016: Same as 2015, add in Jinder Mahal as WWE Champion 2017: Pulling the plug too early on Bray Wyatt as WWE Champion 2018: Let’s try the Roman experiment again 2019: Destruction of Seth Rollins as a babyface, Bray Wyatt as an interesting character, as well as their hell in a cell stipulation 2020: Pandemic era bullshit like the eye for an eye match and the zombie lumberjack match 2021: Pulling the plug too early on Big E in favor of going back to Lesnar 2022: everything about the Royal Rumbles, Shane McMahon’s alleged ego trip 2023: not pulling the trigger on Cody 2024: not pulling the trigger on Cody until it became undeniable that this was his time How do we as wrestling fans endure this ridiculousness? 🤣
@@thelastoutlaw7204 oh, yeah. Forgot about that. While we are at it, like Santi referenced, throw in basically all of the Saudi Arabia BS from 2017-2021
So I started watching wrestling in the late 90s during the Monday night wars. I pretty much watched exclusively WCW (my father was a huge fan of Hogan, Sting, Savage) I stopped watching the night of the “finger poke of doom”. Didn’t start watching until I came across edge vs cena in 2006. So glad I came back to wrestling
one thing about being a “youtube fan” is that as i grew up in Indonesia for most of my life, i could only watch highlights and virus filled streams for the weekly shows. I’m sure other international fans could relate.
Honest question for you Santi, do you think you'll do a video talking about what was the worst calender year for cetain wrestling promtions? WWE Impact/TNA, AEW, ROH, WCW? Like I've said before in my previous comment on why I don't watch WWE or wrestling in general, I would want to see you make that video at some point because if there's one thing that gets a lot of comments and views on the internet, that's talking about something negativly. (Obviously, WCW's worst years are 1999 and 2000.)
A good twist on this video could be asking the people that did stop watching wrestling for however long what was the moment/ things that brought them back. For me it was edge returning in the royal rumble after retiring.
I've never been a full wrestling watcher. I always have been a part-timer by watching on TH-cam some videos and now and then a highlights for some show. I can count on my fingers the times I watched a full show or PPV/PLE. Now I only read a results article for WWE and AEW shows (because it's harder to find NJPW, ROH and TNA) and after done reading I go to watch Santi reactions on Tiktok (sometimes I watch Conman, Wheezy and Teshk too)
Watched WWE religiously from 2006 to 2011 and that wwe general manager I stopped watching, then I tried to watch again in 2019…. I started again last year
I gave up WWE post WM in 2012 and started slowly coming back during Sami Zayn bloodline storyline and I am happy to know I missed on a bunch of bad stuff!
I stopped watching back in 2005 when Eddie died. As a 12 year old who watched WWE religiously it was too much to handle. I came back until I watched the Hardy’s return at Wrestlemania 33 but stopped once again shortly after. Now I’m back in it since The Bloodline storyline
I grew up watching the Golden Age era and was a teenager at the New Generation and Attitude Era. The PG era annoyed me as we have seen many wrestlers growing up organically only to be buried to no end. I enjoyed the Shield, while I loathe how women wrestling was treated until the four horsewomen. Now l’m back thanks to the Judgment Day and the current women wrestling as it is fantastic now. I would love to see the tag teams divisions to be elevated like how it was in the Golden Era.
Times I almost stopped watching WWE: - Dolph Ziggler losing his World Heavyweight Champion back to Alberto Del Rio with Zero televised Title defenses after only 69 days with barely any TV time becaus of his concusion. - Triple H winning the Royal Rumble and preticitble facing and losing to boring face Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 32 - Sasha Banks losing the feud final and the third streight PPV against Charlotte Flair at Roadblock: End of the Line (back then I was a huge Sasha Banks fan and after she lost the third time I thought why invest so much time trying to push her on when she loses every PPV match.) - Kofi Kingston defeating Dolph Ziggler at Somping Ground 2019. It was clear that Dolph would never win a World Championship again. - Brock Lesnar cash in on Rollins at Extreme Rules 2019 after Rollins just beat him at WrestleMania and giving Brock another useless title run. - The teased Goldberg vs. Roman Reigns match at WrestleMania 36 - Letting Brock Lesnar win the Royal Rumble and despite that also compete at the Elimination Chamber to set up a very predictible double tilte main event at WrestleMania. - Roman Reigns defeating Cody Rhodes WrestleMania 39
I stopped watching WWE after Wrestlemania 30. It wasn't because it was bad, i didn't even watch it but i just started to have friends to go out & do teenage bullshit 💯 & then i came back in 2023 to watch it Full Time.
Stopped watching from somewhere in 2016 to royal rumble 2020,don’t even think there was a moment that made me stop other than I was just kinda burnt out,but saw some rumors on Twitter that edge might return so I had to watch,glad I did cause I’ve been back watching ever since
Little context, I started watching wrestling in 2006, and IIve always been a Jeff Hardy fan, but the time that I genuinely stopped watching wrestling was when Punk lost the title to the Rock, I got so mad at that, that I stooprd consuming wrestling as a whole, and I waited likea decade to get back into wrestling after seeing from out of nowhere s ton of tiktoks of wrestlemania 39 on the monday after mania, with obviously a Tiktok of Santi❤.
I was barely holding onto my WWE fandom, when Taker lost the streak, I quit watching until 2020, and I only started checking it out again, because I heard about the push Drew McIntyre was getting and saw the Edge return
Honestly I reckon that the rocks comeback and “having to pivot” all actually was a ploy because they knew how the fans would react and it makes perfect sense if you want the rock to come back and get REAL heat which he wouldn’t of gotten otherwise..
For me it was Asuka losing to Charlotte Flair at wrestlemania 34. Charlotte was already an established and decorated wrestler. I stopped watching wrestling all the way through till the end of 2021.
The first time that I truly stopped watching consistently was 2015 Money in the Bank. After the Royal Rumble that year and Sheamus winning, I truly stopped caring. Didn't start following consistently until Edge returned in 2020.
I actually quit watching wrestling after Bray Wyatt died. He was easily my favorite superstar and I loved his storyline. I started watching WWE almost every week in between EC and WM40. Thankfully the Nightbird campaign started and I watched every, and I mean EVERY show after I knew it was Uncle Howdy. So glad about hwe that storyline is going and I'm so thankful that Paul brought some of Bray's presence back into the WWE.
With the value of hindsight, they were actually correct with the NXT to NXT 2.0 switch. It brought them so many young gifted athletes without a bunch of wear already on their tires that they could mold into exactly what they wanted. The problem is HOW they made the switch. How they seemingly overnight said "Hey you remember your favorites? Yeah they're trash now, care about these people instantly! Do it! Now!" rather than having a slow and subtle shift in what they were prioritizing.
I left watching wwe in 2020 and came back in 2023. Started watching wwe in 2015 and believe me it felt 2015> 2016+2017+2018+2019 (2017 royal rumble was best though). Tbh nowadays feels a lot good then those years
8:52 sometimes being a casual YT fan isnt by choice. RAW and Smackdown sre usually on while im working so YT and Twitter keep me up to date with current storylines going on right now
I actually stopped watching wrestling when the pandemic started, not having fans made it literally unwatchable for me. Started watching again when Cody Rhodes came back to WWE
I love the MITB, so In 2020 when it was in the hq, I was excited to see what they could do with it. It was a cool concept, but watching them give it to Otis, I was so disappointed. Didn’t watch again till mania 37
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CM Punk walking out of WWE in 2014 actually had a lot of pros to it
Due to his departure, it helped lead to plans for WrestleMania changing
Specifically, Daniel Bryan actually having his moment as opposed to a standard one on one match between Orton and Batista for the title
I’d sacrifice the Daniel Bryan moment to keep cm punk. How is 1 wrestlemania moment a positive
@@pleaseshutup7053i only agree with this because they never capitalized on it
Shout out Batista for putting over Bryan when he didn’t have to. Also he never got his real title 1v1 shot either but that moment was still amazing
@@Papellxhase what are you talking about. Batista wasn’t the booker he had no choice it was either lose your job or put Bryan over
@@pleaseshutup7053 dude what? Everybody else was against Bryan reaching the top in the first place and when he got the point he did, no one wanted to put him over. Batista himself said he wasn’t selfish and since he was already an established star he agreed to put Bryan over. Everyone else backstage was against Daniel Bryan. Batista himself said he wanted to put Bryan over and agreed to tap out to him and that it wasn’t a big deal at all to him and he wanted to see Bryan succeed. He could’ve abused backstage politics but didn’t
Jeff Hardy losing to punk made me leave for basically a decade, watched wrestlemania 39 for fun years later, I’ve since not missed a show, went to fast lane, wrestlemania 40, and have tickets for summer slam. Roman brought me back.
That's closer to 15 years I think
@@kingofkings3624 correct
Roman is the Chosen One☝️
For me, it's when Dean ambrose was given the worst heel run possible, then leaving. I've only watched TH-cam since his last match
it's a good time to comeback to wwe, trust me.
it’s time to come back
Charollete beating Asuka at WrestleMania after winning the first-ever women's Royal Rumble not only felt like a waste of everything they built up but a complete halt of all the momentum
It was egregious booking.
That was done to feed more accomplishments to Charlotte. Remember how they were just handing her unnecessary title shots?
@@zeospark9715 They’ve been handing her unnecessary title shots her whole career.
@@zeospark9715 if that was the case they could have had asuka win at wrestlemania, and charlotte then beating asuka at summerslam or maybe even earlier
Same with Shayna, they sht on her build up especially after letting her be a monster at the Chamber..
Interesting note of being a casual TH-cam fan, in the UK we are almost forced to be casual TH-cam fans because the vast majority of us are not staying up until 4am to finish an episode of raw.
Yeah, I started watching wwe TH-cam again on September 2023 and slowly got hooked as now I watch it differently than when I was a teenager. So Friday morning and Monday after work is when I watch the highlights
Fact
And it’s stupid expensive luckily I have a way to catchup
Same here in India.
Live broadcast starts at 5 : 30 am, nobody wakes up this early to watch wwe
What streaming platforms can you watch the replays on over there?
Next video could be times that made fans return to WWE.
Edge returns
Punk returns
The Rock returns
Cody Rhodes returns.
Roman Reigns return
Santi's hoarse voice really added to this video, just sounds like with each new moment hes reminded of, he gets more and more over it
Honestly the fiend getting basically squashed by oldberg was so done😭
For me, it was when Benoit died. Remember, Vince had just been “murdered” with a car bomb, and then the next week, he stood in the ring alone to tell the world that one of my favorite performers ever (at the time) had died. Then, to find out what Benoit actually did was just too much for my 13-year-old mind to handle, and I quit watching until 2022.
Crazy to see this because I stopped watching in 2011 and watching santi on tik tok for the past year has made me watch wwe again
Kofimania was the best thing of 2019 but the ending of his reign was fucked 😂
See I am consider casual fan because most of my wrestling comes from TH-cam but that’s because I hate the commercials don’t have cable and don’t particularly like the matches on raw and smack down. I like seeing the story progression. I must say though TikTok has made watching wrestling online so much better because of guys like you santi. Yall don’t show the narrative that wwe wants to push yall show what the fans want to see. So thank you for that. It’s nice to watch a full promo online without edits
I used to watch with my grandpa and he passed away end of 2012 and I stopped caring but I’ve been back for a few years now and I love it better than ever I started to keep tabs on certain people
"I've been a "Casual TH-cam fan" for a few years, and actually have never seen an episode of either Raw or Smackdown. That will change (at least partially) once Raw goes to Netflix.
I think a great video idea would be to do “Ranking every year of WWE from 2000-2024” either A-F or on a tier list
I stopped watching around 2017 I'd say I can't really remember exactly tho but I started watching again at the 2023 Road to Wrestlemania and caught myself up with what I had missed with full story vids.
Speaking of the pandemic era, I actually got back into wrestling again during the thunder dome era (thanks to the bloodline storyline starting during then) and loved the thunder dome era. However under no circumstances do I plan on ever returning to any of those matches again, as great as they may be, even with roman thriving off the quieter subtlety I simply can’t bring myself to watch a pandemic match. (Performance center promos on the other hand, they hit different I can’t lie)
Edit: I just watched the women’s triple threat from Takeover in your house and am immediately taking it back
Roman beating Undertaker in 2017 at Wrestlemania 33 made me quit watching wrestling from 2017 to September of 2023.
Dang you came back at the best point to come back
2019 did have that good tag match between Undertaker Roman vs Shane and drew at extreme rules that match was 🔥🔥🔥
Vince buried Kofi for Cain vs Brock in Saudi. I was also in attendance for Hell in a Cell 2018 and the ending upset everyone. For those who don't remember Brock interfered during Roman vs Braun and the match ended in a no contest. After the match ended, everyone started chanting this is bullshit and refund. 😂
The thing that got me back into wrestling was the bloodline storyline, and roman reigns as the tribal chief. He was my favourite when i was younger and still the same now for a different reason. I'm glad he is now being acknowledged.☝️
Same. Came back RR2023 in peak sami vs the tribal chief 🐐
I basically stopped for about a year and a half until Edge came back, he brought me back into wrestling and Roman becoming tribal chief kept me watching. All things considered 2020 wasn't all that bad for me from a viewer standpoint
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Santi was cooking over at 14:00, I love it 🤣🤣
As an attitude era fan, I can say that once the “invasion angle” started us when I tuned out and basically tuned out through WM40… so a little more than 20 full years of not watching WWE shows.. I’d tune in from time to time and saw Jeff Hardy as champ, Edge as champ… not that those were terrible champions cuz they weren’t once I caught up with things.. but knowing they were mid carders when I was watching it felt like a “fall off” of sorts?
Personally for me is When Roman Reigns beat The Undertaker at WM 33 I was so mad I almost quit watching wrestling all together and I seriously wanted to break my Tv (Thankfully I didn’t) and I Realized hey tomorrow is the night after WM and as a wwe fan I can’t miss that and ever since I kept on watching. Another time was the pandemic era but The Hurt business saved it for me.
I love watching Santi rant about wrestling I hope he does this more often
I speak for everybody… besides 2016… the 2010s of WWE were brutal😂😂😂
2016 was brutal too, 2012-13 was decent compared to most of the decade
Attitude Era > ruthless aggression era > wwe 2008-10 > wwe 2011-now
The summer of 2013 was amazing.
@@scarface37382011-2021, wwe is good now.
@@NintendoFighter9000But it's nowhere terrible though
At least Raw and Smackdown at least
Didn't feel like a drag
And waste of time
But 2017
Worst year in WWE
I stopped watching WWE towards the end of pandemic and came back at Wrestlmania 40. I feel like I missed some amazing stuff in this time and kinda regret it because I was really close to getting through the pandemic era.
For me it was the royal rumble 2022 i wanted to quit but i stayed because of Roman reigns and the Bloodline 90% of all bad things that happend that made fans quit were because of brock winning some random shit he didn’t have to win
I forgot when I stopped watching WWE stuff for a while. Then I saw something with the judgement day and got interested. More specifically Finn Balor stood out and I got hooked to the story of him trying to get the world heavyweight championship. Been watching since then
I started out as a youtube fan, but that is what got me into wrestling, as well as watching wrestlemania 39 as my first wwe show ever. i saw it on peacock, and it was the first wwe taping or airing i ever saw.
The streak ending. It didn't matter that Daniel Bryan got his moment, he was gonna relinquish his title anyway a few weeks later and the god awful Roman push started soon. Plus Punk was gone too.
I only returned when CM Punk returned at Survivor series and it has been amazing since
I stopped after Wrestlemania 36 until late 2022. Taker retired, poor treatment of Bray (besides the funhouse), Rhea Ripley and Shayna losing to the horsewomen, and all around strange vibes since 2018-2019 that just made me not want to stick around.
While I poked in here and there that was basically it for two years but the Triple H era brought me back
i think Rock taking the WM 29 Main Event from CM Punk really was something that made me realize when i was in high school that i like Pro Wrestling but not in the state it was at that time. Like Punk vs Taker was cool but not much else was and then Punk left and i just stopped caring and im not a big punk fan but he ws the most interesting thing in wwe back then so when he was gone so was I. I saw a thing here and there till about WM 34 i think and then I didnt come back to watching any WWE till right before Crown Jewel 2023 why then idk but since then ive been keeping up since.
7:53 thank you so much for saying this genuinely. i stopped watching for most of the time rhea was out and i felt like a “fake fan” or whatever for doing that but i agree, it’s valid to not watch based off of who isn’t there. i think that should be more normal.
I came into WWE at a weird time. I became a fan in 2011, right before WrestleMania. Thankfully I missed the weekly host and super PG era. I witnessed the last gasp of the PG era’s greatness, Summer of Punk, Zack Ryder’s rise through TH-cam, Yes Movement, Wyatt Family, The Shield. Around 2016 I stopped watching because of a culmination of me getting bullied for being a wrestling fan and seeing how bad the product was really becoming. I would see WWE on TV or social media from time to time and still play the games, but I never really got back into it, especially after the abysmal years of 2017-2019. I watched the 2020 Royal Rumble because of Edge coming back, but it still wasn’t enough. Fast forward to 2023, it’s the month before WrestleMania 39, I had only heard of the Bloodline and Cody’s rise to the main event but I never got to witness it. One of my friends had been insisting that I watch WWE again because of how good it had gotten, but I was still very skeptical. We sat down and watched the absolute peak that was Wrestlemania 39 and I was hooked. I got really into it again, watched all the PLE’s, started picking my favorites and even attended my first taping of Monday Night Raw, where I got to witness one of the classic Gable v Gunther matches. I also got to witness two epic returns, Punk and Orton. Fast forward to Wrestlemania 40. Me and a group of close friends were all gathered and watching both nights of absolute cinema. After witnessing the last five minutes of the main event and Cody finishing the story, I was locked in for life. I’m currently making plans to attend another taping of Raw and potentially even WrestleMania 41. I’m also working on getting into ring shape and have plans to move to Houston and train to be a professional wrestler at Booker T’s wrestling school. In the words of Michael Cole, “Damn, I love professional wrestling!”
@@mr.nonozone8322 nice. That's a great story and good luck in pursuing wrestling. You got this
2011 is all i need to say
2018-2019 for me lol
Ngl mine was Rollins vacating the wwe title in 2015
yeah same here i stopped in 2011.
I’m biased to 2011 bc it was my first year watching
@@Dylonpritchett15 damn in 2011 it got more family-friendly compared to 2008,09 and 10. but in 2010 it started to show it slowly.
I always thought giving the Bray Wyatt aka the Fiend the championship was a cool idea in that they could've booked him in a way everyone was scared to face him, but decided to try because he held the belt and he was able to choose who he wanted to face to get his own revenge tour
When The Hurt Business broke up right after Bobby Lashley won the WWE Championship, I actually stopped watching until Clash At The Castle 2022. Vince truly infuriated so many of us doing that moronic booking.
Clash at the castle 2022 rejuvenated the wwe
I followed WWE from 2014-2019 Hell in a Cell. THAT match pissed me off SO much that I quit watching until Raw Day 1 this year.
Shawn retiring officially and Jeff Hardy losing to CM punk to choose who leave WWE in the same yr span took me off wrestling for yearssss
I stopped watching WWE in 2018 and I will NEVER go back.
Can we talk about how we are living WCW vs WWE again. WWE was awful so people started tuning into WCW and everyone was going there. Then the attitude era came around and WCW made bad booking decisions and died. Now it’s WWE was extraordinarily bad and AEW was coming into play and it was amazing with all your favorite wrestlers going over there so you tuned in. Now The Renaissance Era is here and WWE is the best it’s ever been after the worst low ever while AEW is making bad booking decisions, so it’s dying.
21:19 I think this is an AI image because I don't even remember this happened at all. HBK retired back in 2010 so it did not happened.
The Rock's 40 minute promos and stealing the spotlight from others besides Cody made me walk away until it was over.
He should have taken up the entire hour. I can’t tell you 1 other thing that happened on wwe shows when rock retire
@@pleaseshutup7053Yup. There's nothing more entertaining than listening to some self absorbed D-bag say THE EXACT SAME THING we've heard him say about 10,000 times before!
I get your point entirely, but then again, it's The Rock. What we got from January to April really is some of the best stuff to come from the WWE ever. If not for The Rock and pretty much everything he did, WrestleMania 40 would not have been as special as it was. I agree with your general point, but this is more of a case where the good heavily outweighs the bad.
@@jameslemm3282 I would have been completely happy with the AMAZING current roster doing WM 40 without The Crock. Everything gets MORE BORING when he's around to do his annoying, UNBELIEVABLY MONOTONOUS promos!!!!
@@jameslemm3282 The Rock only did two things, recycled promos from his earlier years and rode on the coattails of Roman's Bloodline storyline and Cody finishing his story. The only good that came out of that was that Roman beat the most Wrestlemania Main Events record. Cody's win would've happened either way. If there wasn't that, The Rock wouldn't have had anything to come back for. He's still riding on Roman's & Cody's names trying to come back within the 2024-2025 year. Sorry I'm not a fan.🤷♀️
The time I stopped watching wrestling was when Layla failed to reclaim the Divas championship. Her opponent was Eve, and it was on raw, and Layla was on the second rope, and Eve kicked her foot to fall. Even though Layla was able to put her foot on the rope, the referee was not able to see it, and Eve again kicked her foot off of the bottom rope, even though she secured the win.
My biggest flex as a WWE fan is that I never stopped. In the lows especially, never left them. Been loyal since 2015 when I started.
I’m a simple man 😌
2015-2022 were the dark days for me. I would always watch WWE at the start of the year so I can watch Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. I would tune out after since it was mostly terrible. Especially when Vince was desperately trying to make Roman the “top guy.”
Bruh 2016 was dark , you gotta be drunk
Shinsuke losing to AJ at mania got me off for years. Not cuz I don’t like AJ but shinsuke should have won the title at that mania and the fact that the match was ok at best really set me off the edge.
I stopped watching WWE in 2009 when Jeff Hardy left because he is my favorite of all time!
However, still kept up on Facebook and their own website for almost 2 years.
I'd primarily watch TNA because of Hardy, so, when he had THAT incident in 2011, I stopped watching wrestling all together for about 2 months.
Punk's Pipebomb is what got me hooked back into watching WWE for roughly 3 years, I stopped again when Punk walked out of WWE.
Only to continue again in 2016 and have been watching on an almost weekly basis, but 2019 was really close to being my breaking point.
Your Twitter says wrestling, this says wwe. My answer was the finger poke of doom
The Pandemic was awful all around. It was admirable that the WWE was still putting on weekly TV. I was grateful for anything. Even when it was bad. It was new and interesting at a time we needed something. I acknowledge it's bad compared to everything else, but give me Seth gouging out Rey's eye over nothing during an era I was stuck in my house and couldn't work.
Now we need moments that made people to come back to watch WWE
For me, it was the 2022 royal rumble, I had never felt so angry about the winners, that made me a TH-cam fan until Survivor Series 2023
I feel like vince knew his time was up so he wanted to make it as hard as possible for triple h lol. The fact that ronda lost at wrestlemania, only to later win at backlash? And brock for some reason won the wwe championship at elimination chamber for no reason. Which messed up the main event scene for another year.
For me it was the bobby sisters segments i had a existential dilemma 😂😂
Maybe im too old for this now , i stopped when the fiend lost and got back on the smackdown that the fans made their return and I've been hooked since
Roman Reigns' heel turn. I was a babyface Roman fanboy. I was also absent for most of 2019 after Roman left coz of Lukemia. I was basically a kid so I didn't like him turning heel. Then got busy in stuff so WWE didn't cross my mind as it used to. Then suddenly I got remembered it is WM season and watched the Triple Threat bw McIntyre, Sheamus and Gunther. Haven't missed a show since
I never stopped watching wrestling but i almost did multiple times. The first time was during the big dog roman reigns era then i almost stopped watching again when they kept screwing over the fiend then the last time was summerslam 2021-presami bloodline era which a lot of people are forgetting was really hated on.
For me, it was when Undertaker retired, for years, especially the last years of the 2010's Undertaker, was the one reason I would watch anything WWE, it wasn't until 2022 survivor series I started watching WWE again
Day 91 of asking you to rank every superstar based off of pure in ring ability
Finish your story bro!
Day 60 of asking Santi to make a “Mt Rushmores of WWE” video
E.g. Mt Rushmores of technical wrestlers, sellers, comedy characters, mic workers, best heels, greatest matches, finishers, managers, entrance themes, and GOATs
18 seconds no views? Bros on top
If I put my mind to it, I think of at least one thing from each of the last 15 years or so that took me out of wrestling altogether…
2009: not a great year for the company as a whole, super Cena was beyond annoying at this point, guest host era, etc
2010: The burial of the Nexus
2011: Mania 27 was arguably the worst ever… then, the mishandling of CM Punk
2012: The mishandling of Daniel Bryan and not giving the Rumble win to Chris Jericho
2013: Twice in a Lifetime, Mania 29 as a whole, Bryan gets lost in Authority-based purgatory
2014: Mistreatment of CM Punk comes to light, the fascination with Batista
2015: The fascination and force feeding of Roman Reigns
2016: Same as 2015, add in Jinder Mahal as WWE Champion
2017: Pulling the plug too early on Bray Wyatt as WWE Champion
2018: Let’s try the Roman experiment again
2019: Destruction of Seth Rollins as a babyface, Bray Wyatt as an interesting character, as well as their hell in a cell stipulation
2020: Pandemic era bullshit like the eye for an eye match and the zombie lumberjack match
2021: Pulling the plug too early on Big E in favor of going back to Lesnar
2022: everything about the Royal Rumbles, Shane McMahon’s alleged ego trip
2023: not pulling the trigger on Cody
2024: not pulling the trigger on Cody until it became undeniable that this was his time
How do we as wrestling fans endure this ridiculousness? 🤣
Passion
Sting losing
@@thelastoutlaw7204 oh, yeah. Forgot about that.
While we are at it, like Santi referenced, throw in basically all of the Saudi Arabia BS from 2017-2021
So I started watching wrestling in the late 90s during the Monday night wars. I pretty much watched exclusively WCW (my father was a huge fan of Hogan, Sting, Savage) I stopped watching the night of the “finger poke of doom”. Didn’t start watching until I came across edge vs cena in 2006. So glad I came back to wrestling
one thing about being a “youtube fan” is that as i grew up in Indonesia for most of my life, i could only watch highlights and virus filled streams for the weekly shows. I’m sure other international fans could relate.
Bianca constantly buring Damage CTRL for straight 2 years really pissed me off.
I will always remember where i was during the "Montréal Screwjob", Takers "Streak", Warrior beating Hogan Wam6
"The cuckening of Cody Rhodes" is a phrase I never thought I'd hear 😂
Honest question for you Santi, do you think you'll do a video talking about what was the worst calender year for cetain wrestling promtions? WWE Impact/TNA, AEW, ROH, WCW? Like I've said before in my previous comment on why I don't watch WWE or wrestling in general, I would want to see you make that video at some point because if there's one thing that gets a lot of comments and views on the internet, that's talking about something negativly. (Obviously, WCW's worst years are 1999 and 2000.)
A good twist on this video could be asking the people that did stop watching wrestling for however long what was the moment/ things that brought them back. For me it was edge returning in the royal rumble after retiring.
2019 royal rumble to WrestleMania was decent though
I've never been a full wrestling watcher. I always have been a part-timer by watching on TH-cam some videos and now and then a highlights for some show. I can count on my fingers the times I watched a full show or PPV/PLE. Now I only read a results article for WWE and AEW shows (because it's harder to find NJPW, ROH and TNA) and after done reading I go to watch Santi reactions on Tiktok (sometimes I watch Conman, Wheezy and Teshk too)
Watched WWE religiously from 2006 to 2011 and that wwe general manager I stopped watching, then I tried to watch again in 2019…. I started again last year
Imagine the people that have quit wrestling after the original WrestleMania 40 plans and come back to it years later like “WHAT HAPPENED?”
Goldberg beating The Fiend is hands down the first one that comes to mind.
I gave up WWE post WM in 2012 and started slowly coming back during Sami Zayn bloodline storyline and I am happy to know I missed on a bunch of bad stuff!
I stopped watching back in 2005 when Eddie died. As a 12 year old who watched WWE religiously it was too much to handle. I came back until I watched the Hardy’s return at Wrestlemania 33 but stopped once again shortly after. Now I’m back in it since The Bloodline storyline
I grew up watching the Golden Age era and was a teenager at the New Generation and Attitude Era. The PG era annoyed me as we have seen many wrestlers growing up organically only to be buried to no end. I enjoyed the Shield, while I loathe how women wrestling was treated until the four horsewomen. Now l’m back thanks to the Judgment Day and the current women wrestling as it is fantastic now. I would love to see the tag teams divisions to be elevated like how it was in the Golden Era.
triple threat the sheild members at WrestleMania we still deserve this dream match it's not too late
Times I almost stopped watching WWE:
- Dolph Ziggler losing his World Heavyweight Champion back to Alberto Del Rio with Zero televised Title defenses after only 69 days with barely any TV time becaus of his concusion.
- Triple H winning the Royal Rumble and preticitble facing and losing to boring face Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 32
- Sasha Banks losing the feud final and the third streight PPV against Charlotte Flair at Roadblock: End of the Line (back then I was a huge Sasha Banks fan and after she lost the third time I thought why invest so much time trying to push her on when she loses every PPV match.)
- Kofi Kingston defeating Dolph Ziggler at Somping Ground 2019. It was clear that Dolph would never win a World Championship again.
- Brock Lesnar cash in on Rollins at Extreme Rules 2019 after Rollins just beat him at WrestleMania and giving Brock another useless title run.
- The teased Goldberg vs. Roman Reigns match at WrestleMania 36
- Letting Brock Lesnar win the Royal Rumble and despite that also compete at the Elimination Chamber to set up a very predictible double tilte main event at WrestleMania.
- Roman Reigns defeating Cody Rhodes WrestleMania 39
I stopped watching WWE after Wrestlemania 30. It wasn't because it was bad, i didn't even watch it but i just started to have friends to go out & do teenage bullshit 💯 & then i came back in 2023 to watch it Full Time.
Stopped watching from somewhere in 2016 to royal rumble 2020,don’t even think there was a moment that made me stop other than I was just kinda burnt out,but saw some rumors on Twitter that edge might return so I had to watch,glad I did cause I’ve been back watching ever since
Little context, I started watching wrestling in 2006, and IIve always been a Jeff Hardy fan, but the time that I genuinely stopped watching wrestling was when Punk lost the title to the Rock, I got so mad at that, that I stooprd consuming wrestling as a whole, and I waited likea decade to get back into wrestling after seeing from out of nowhere s ton of tiktoks of wrestlemania 39 on the monday after mania, with obviously a Tiktok of Santi❤.
I was barely holding onto my WWE fandom, when Taker lost the streak, I quit watching until 2020, and I only started checking it out again, because I heard about the push Drew McIntyre was getting and saw the Edge return
The Shield breaking up turned me into a TH-cam fan till this day. lol
I follow all 3 of them and that's about it.
Honestly I reckon that the rocks comeback and “having to pivot” all actually was a ploy because they knew how the fans would react and it makes perfect sense if you want the rock to come back and get REAL heat which he wouldn’t of gotten otherwise..
For me it was Asuka losing to Charlotte Flair at wrestlemania 34. Charlotte was already an established and decorated wrestler. I stopped watching wrestling all the way through till the end of 2021.
The only thing that got me back into to wrestling was when the fiend gimmick started to imurge rip to one of the goats
I love your videos
The first time that I truly stopped watching consistently was 2015 Money in the Bank. After the Royal Rumble that year and Sheamus winning, I truly stopped caring. Didn't start following consistently until Edge returned in 2020.
Day 122 of asking for santi's top 10 tag teams of all time
2:50 hey it’s me :)
I actually quit watching wrestling after Bray Wyatt died. He was easily my favorite superstar and I loved his storyline. I started watching WWE almost every week in between EC and WM40. Thankfully the Nightbird campaign started and I watched every, and I mean EVERY show after I knew it was Uncle Howdy. So glad about hwe that storyline is going and I'm so thankful that Paul brought some of Bray's presence back into the WWE.
With the value of hindsight, they were actually correct with the NXT to NXT 2.0 switch. It brought them so many young gifted athletes without a bunch of wear already on their tires that they could mold into exactly what they wanted.
The problem is HOW they made the switch. How they seemingly overnight said "Hey you remember your favorites? Yeah they're trash now, care about these people instantly! Do it! Now!" rather than having a slow and subtle shift in what they were prioritizing.
I left watching wwe in 2020 and came back in 2023. Started watching wwe in 2015 and believe me it felt 2015> 2016+2017+2018+2019 (2017 royal rumble was best though). Tbh nowadays feels a lot good then those years
10:10 International or not that was a great Paul Bearer impression
8:52 sometimes being a casual YT fan isnt by choice. RAW and Smackdown sre usually on while im working so YT and Twitter keep me up to date with current storylines going on right now
Santi, you look and sound tired mate, please don’t burnout if you need rest please have it
I actually stopped watching wrestling when the pandemic started, not having fans made it literally unwatchable for me. Started watching again when Cody Rhodes came back to WWE
I love the MITB, so In 2020 when it was in the hq, I was excited to see what they could do with it. It was a cool concept, but watching them give it to Otis, I was so disappointed. Didn’t watch again till mania 37