THANX for the saw story's. I'm a YARDER LOGGER , from NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, way up in the woods, I know I've heard all the CALIFORNIA jocks, any way , my fall'in saw was 064 mag very tough strong runner when the 066 bought 2 of them, I sold one of the 066's and bought a 440 mag ,best thing that ever happened, we got a lot of big timber here, but the trees aren't as big as thay were and we were run'in 066's with a 36" bar's but when the timber started getting smaller, that 440 mag was THE saw with 28inch bar was light and fast enough to do most the work I needed to do and,still had the 066 mag , for backup. Now got a bunch a saws STIHL AND HUSKY and love'em all !!! But now I'm 60 and retired from job related ,that's another story!!!! P.S. one day U mentioned wanted to fall 1 of these big cali dug fur's come out to the west coast and I'll find U some !!!!! THANK 'S from NOR-CAL!!!!
Awesome video Harvey. I’ve learned so much watching your videos. Made me try my hand at porting and few of my saws. My 394 is back up and running. And now I started on a 372. Been ordering part from wolf creek.just placed another order today for the 372 build.
Harvey Glad your still rockin . You definitely had me worried when you started that quitting talk . We need you . And yep I'm color blind when it comes to power saws too . I like em all. Keep up the great work 👍💪
Thank Harvey for your time and stories love it buddy. Gonna be great to see Eric on the show again. I love all saws also different strokes for different folks. 🌲❤🌲✊
im just getting in to building saws something iv always enjoyed working on and love felling and buckin trees well just really enjoy hearing and running saws so glad i found your channel iornhorse! now i know im not alone to saw addiction lol also i just picked up an olds 044 it was tossed in the juck pile at the scrapyard i couldn't believe my eyes friends i grabbed it up and took it to the scale house and they actually sold it to me for-----yall ready for this -----$5 hahaha i was in ahh all day just absolutely was a great day and its a nice one too just needs a little tlc and she will be back to life and i cant wait to hear her fire off for the first time.i just had to sure this amazing day with you guys and say im glad to be her friend!!! and thanks so much iorn horse you have really helped me out wit!!h the learning curve and made this so much more fun keep on keeping on good sir
i fell limbed and logged for years with a 460 Magnum, 32 inch bar , full skip, full wrap handle... my opinion the best saw I ever ran! fell in love with it!
i have a 440 dont get me wrong! if I'm out firewooding or something, 440 all day, its lighter... if Im at work, making A LIVING with a saw... 460 MAG ALL DAY LONG! I always throw my 440 in as a backup saw, incase the 460 blows, gets squished, what ever... but if I'm LOGGING, 460.......
Cheers from NZ Harvey, I thought I knew a little about saws till watching your videos, put myself back to rank novice, please keep sharing your expert detailed knowledge its the best on youtube. Learnt a bit about tomatoes to.
Saws make me feel good too! Harvey, all the people who thank you every time you upload a Video is a testament to your mentoring. These Videos will live long after we’re gone and be helpful to future generations! Keep doing what you do so well!
HARVEY GLAD TO SEE YOUR A LOVER OF ALL SAWS ,AND NOT A FIGHTER LOL GREAT STORYS AND VIDEOS AS ALWAYS THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK LOOK FORWARD TO EACH VIDEO,YOUR A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE MY FRIEND BE SAFE GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND
I appreciate there are good stihl's but i got soured on them early in my 20's. Now i am 53 with 60 some saws in the shop and only 1 stihl pole saw. Maybe time to give them another chance. Thanks Harvey
I’m right there with ya! My wife has her grandmothers cook book. She was a sweet lady, and southern baptist at that. I almost think I need to quit being a pipe welder and start logging. Might loose weight again. I don’t think I’m going to stop eating lol
Hi harv you're family here in Scotland Will always be here for you.. we love all you're videos.. tinman he's a good fella too. We have learned loads from you. And tinman. am building a Husqavana Cr 125 at the moment. A put a new wonsser piston in it. changed the jets in the carb an it's still not running quite right. But a will get to the bottom of it.. signing off now see you tomorrow. ( FAM)..
I just stumbled on to ur videos and I want to say that you are the man . And I hope you keep doing what you are doing . My girl friend hurd me listening watching ur vids and she started to also and said your awesome and entertaining and now we watch your videos together . Great job on the muffler mods to btw thanks for everything
Hi Harvey and Cullen!!😀😀 Harv, you have 2 of my most favorite saws that I ever had sitting there!!😀 That 046 doesn't have too many hours on it. The way I can tell that is the ribs on the handle are still like new. Once you get around 7 to 8 hundred cords on them the ribs will be getting pretty smooth on the bottom side of the top half of the handle. It's too bad that they get worn out and just aren't worth keeping them going. Take care my friend!!😀😀 Logger Al
Someone said you DM them, I won a prize, I figured it was a scam. No a builder but you have a good channel. Keep up the great job, like Buckin' Billy, love you Ironhorse. Once again, great saw at Bunyan.
I had a 046 Magnum bought it brandnew in 1999 decided to retire on couple months ago. The cost to rebuild it was cost prohibitive parts are not cheap in Canada. Bought a new 462 not as much torque but it’s quicker pulls 28 bar with full house pretty damn good.
I stumbled upon this channel a few weeks ago by searching for videos on a specific chainsaw and I’m tickled to death that I did. I’ve become addicted to Harvey lol.
i work for a tree service and we have the local city contract here and weve been taking out 1-6 ash trees everyday and unless its more then 3 feet ill always go for the 461 or if its only 24ish ill grab the 400c which has been suprising me with the power for how light it is. but when its real big i always go for the 661 theres really just no comparison in the power. if your good and sharp that 661 just eats wood without skipping a beat. im yet to run any ported saws but i would like to get one sometime.the 660s though do get real heavy and will turn your arms to jello in a hurry lol. great video
My first real saw was a red lever 044 a mentor of mine gave me for free before he moved. It had a blown up top end and I rebuilt it. I run a 046 at work and it's great but I wouldn't hesitate to run my 044 side by side with it and cut just as good
IRONHORSE, WE LOVE YOU. WE NEED TO SEE YOU EVERYDAY, YOU ARE PART OF OUR FAMILY. WE JUST WANT YOU HAPPY BUT PLEASE DON'T STOP MAKING VIDEOS!!! IRONHORSE AND TINMAN ARE KILLING IT, TEACHING US WITH GREAT EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS!!!
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a trick to log back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
@@zachariahemanuel4017 Google is going to give you more-accurate answers than ANYONE in this comment space can, I urge you to delete your post as it's rude to leave an off-topic, it's been months & nobody replied it would be nice to remove it so it doesn't live-on in this video's comments for eternity ;) Hope you got into the account, I mean it's either going to be simple email-based re-passwording, I've NEVER been unable to get into an account that I legitimately owned (online, banks etc) despite losing pins/passwords...that said, I can tell you don't even waste your time trying to get-into someone else's account, whether facebook or instagram or whatever, I can assure you it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you have physical access to their machine to put a keylogger in....or visual access to see the password being entered....or setup a MitM attack to get the pin if they're using wifi....but if you're phrasing your Q here like you did I promise you aren't going to be doing man-in-the-middle attacks lol, and stealing someone's pin/password is not going to 'go well' for you in the end I promise!
I also love these two saws. I have one 044 I ported and one 046 that I put a hyway big bore kit on. It's nice! Lots of power! I have several 440's, and here is where I have a few questions. I have yet to have a 044 bottom end open. However I have had several 440's completely apart and was surprized to see Japan stamped bearings. I know for a fact that these saws had never been open since new. So when did a German made saw start using Japanese parts? Did this also happen with the 044? My uneducated guess would be no, simply based on my observation that the old 044's seem to far outlast the 440's.
I’m not a saw expert, but the classic John Deere 4010 tractors built back in the 60’s would have Japanese bearings in them from the factory. Would amaze the farmer/owner every time.
Wait a big-bore 46??? I thought the 460 already was a big-bore? Isn't it the 440, with 2mm wider bore cylinder&piston put on it? I'm eager AS HELL to find a good 440 V 460 comparison, to learn how Stihl approaches accommodation of larger-bore top-ends, as I've got a pair of 660's & big-bore 56mm kits that I'm putting on and, having recently learned that Stihl effectively did 'big bore 440' with the 460, I've been watching these 4** videos hoping to find the comparisons/differences in specs for how Stihl does the big-bore 440 (ie, the 460!) I'd worried, but expected, that they would NOT just slap a new top-end on and call it done, and Harv mentioning a "heavier frame" on the 460 does support my thinking/fear that the entirety of the bottom-end/crankcase of a 460 is "proportionately larger&stronger than a 440's, to account-for the new bore"....in which case it means that running aftermarket big-bores is absolutely "far more pressure on the saw than intended" and more likely to fail (thankfully failures are OK with me here, oddly enough, because I got 2 of these clone 660's precisely for playing builder, so long as I always have 1 ready-to-go I still have what I need for work + parts-saw backup + increasing education&ability working the platform...nevermind that my 660's are stronger/faster like every 2wks, the big bores & 8pin upgrade this wkend should be pretty nice, including case porting ;D )
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to talk and make vid's for us but would understand absolutely if you needed to take more time for domestic matters. Life with family and great friends is not guaranteed beyond the next breath. I'm learning this the hard way with cancer at 52. Take the time to make memories. There will come a time when they are all we have. Regards from Scotland.
I understand exactly what you are saying. I have both the 460 and 440, as well as my favorite, my ms 360, especially if I will be cutting high stumps. I will buck with all three. The 360 has a 20 inch Total bar. The 440 has a 25 inch bar and the 460 has a 20 inch Stihl oilamatic bar. My 460 is just a little more powerful than my 440 but it is a lot heavier, as you said. The 440 actually needs couple dog, so you run the roller chain catcher, because the natural lay of the 440 is such that the end of a long bar is aimed to far downward. The roller catcher keeps it off a flat surface.
looking forward to the case splitting video ,i was given a 1998 039 in a billion pieces , just wondering are hyway cranks and bearings any good, here all they sell is farmertech from what i can see, apparently Taiwan produces reasonable chainsaw parts also
Have a question about what parts are causing the weight differences between 046 and 044? Stihl manuals show weight without bar of the 044 at 13lbs and the 046 at 14.3lbs. I would think the weight of cylinder and piston together would be similar, but maybe the 046 has more material or uses a heavier metal, or is the weight difference in other parts? This question comes up because a friend has concerns as we pick aftermarket parts for an 044 cylinder and piston repair that using a larger 52mm big bore kit and more horsepower would wear out and fail the other older parts of the chainsaw rather quickly than a 50mm, and we wouldn't get to enjoy our repair for too long. Should we enjoy more horsepower of the 52mm or make a conservative purchase of a 50mm kit? thanks.
I love my ms 440, too. Primarily because of the weight difference better ween it and the 460. The 460 is also a beast for me to start. My two favorite big saws are my ms 360 and 440. They start easy and either has enough power to cut big oak, hickory or maple rounds. If I need to make a high face cut I grab the 360 in a heart beat because it weighs three pounds less than the 440. A low face cut is fine for the 440 but if I have to lift it up- it is a bit to much weight for me. 78 will do that to you - if you know what I mean! On a high cut my Stihl 024, 025 or ms 260P are not outside the realm of possibility, even when their shorter bars and .325 chains. As Clint has said - a man has to know his limitations.
When I got smacked by the widow maker and driven like a nail... the 046 was the saw that started and let me cut myself out... I’m definitely extremely lucky for being so dumb... never go in alone to get ahead of the game...or you’ll be alone when something breaks loose...LMFFAO! I’m still the 371xp boy...with my 28” skipper setup! I play around with all the rest...but I definitely love the 371 the best!! 😂😂😂😂👍😁
So Harvey had a little incident with the so I just bought was bucking up some logs slipped and fell forward onto the saw pretty good gash on my shoulder thank God for Chain brakes got to learn to pay attention more😂
Yeah I got a kick out of that, both of you guys with the same video, love it, the youtube chainsaw community, tinman is a good fella I really like him too
Had my MS360 pro for years now and I swear it gets a pound heaver every year. At 72 , I can only cut about 3 hours a day and have to rest but finished this years fire wood. Think I would go crazy if I couldnt get into the woods.
I always say the same thing to my dad about bucking, the dirt and grit on the wood is what is hard on those chains. I run mostly Carlton chains and occasionally Stihl Oilmatics. Out of my four Stihl Chainsaws I own i always run my 044 10mm slant fin with a 28" skip-tooth. It's my favorite saw. I also have an 036 Pro I run a 25" bar on and that saw really runs, and winds up with excellent mid range and top end power
So been running saws for forty plus years..love Stihls and Huskys...the 044 it is a much better saw to me.. the 044 is lighter and can do about everything I need...the 046 in a few pounds heavier only 15% more power and a fuel guzzler...never could understand why a an 046..an odd ball...the 441 was a joke kinda like the 042 and 048 in the early 80"s they were flops.. 044 all the way baby... You were talking about the Husqvarna 2100...the old lead sled... love those things still have 3 of them...great western timber saws...ported with a velocity slack...hold on they are a true hog....cut circular around my 395 and 390...Thanks much...Shoe SW Oregon Logger... ps still have two mint condition Stihl 056 mag II saws...still another great old hog... Take Care.
Can we see that blue thunder saw run on video Harv. That's been interesting to hear about. An with those numbers u are happy with I'd love to see those numbers in action. I run a ol 66 mag I'm wantin to get done up after i get this 461 done up hope you can show it cut with those numbers also i like Tinman an been subcribed to Tinman love his channel to never miss y'alls videos.
I love my 044 but I've developed a problem I can't figure out. It runs like a top so long as it's held level. As soon as I lean it down or up it stalls and gives me trouble restarting. Matters not if the tank is full or half full. It's aggravating!
Well its been quite awhile later, were still here, 044 is my favorite "dream saw" if you will, impossible to afford one or probably even a busted one probably so I been really really debating the g444 but I got a weird itch forv the china 272 genuine walbro carb and ignition they got a 888 now 122cc anyway I just cant justify the 272 over the 44..? And iv got/done ported bb 372xp so wanna go back stihl never ported a big stihl
Hii,I have a question ,You might have the answer sir...I have a 042 Av,I know is similar with 048 Av,this models are not very popular,but most of the parts can be found,the only big problem is the cylinder, 048 has a 52mm cylinder with 36mm Stroke,the same with 046 Stihl,what do You think,it will fit?thanks a lot
I bought a new 372 from farmtec and ima leave the farmtec crank and bearings in it just for a test saw to c how long there bearings will hold up, and I have mr Harvey do his magic on a big bore 52mm piston and cylinder for me for it. I cant wait to c how its gonna turn out...🙏. I think he has the piston done, but no word on the cylinder yet...🙏🙋♂️ thank u IRONHORSE for helping me out !! Again I appreciate this more them u will ever know...
Would be nice to hear Harvey do a review on this "new age" MS500i, how it cuts, etc. I have tested it myself here in Sweden mostly in pine and spruce, but have no comparison to his "hot rods".
I probably own the world's only Stihl 036 built at the end of 90's (between 1996-1998)bought in 2001 that it is in mint condition untouched inside a box! Not the magnum versions, not the 036 pro, but the old plain 036 the series that made Stihl what it is in reputation .Stihl would probably put it in their museum, hahaha.Probably it will need all the seals and gaskets changed after all these years if it is going to be used!
I’ve got a nice 038 magnum 2 in at Walkers right now getting some exhaust work done. It complements my killer 066 that I have for the bigger stuff here in British Columbia.
So after 3-4 watchings (I get distracted doing background-watching yknow!), think I've taken it all in now but hoping you can correct me here where I stray!! SO...the 440 is great, but Stihl basically (no...LITERALLY) created a "big bore 440", which they call the 460. It's a 2mm larger bore, like the big-bore kits for ms660s being a 2mm larger bore as well, so I want to learn all I can Re how Stihl accommodated the 2mm larger bore here. You mention the frame was heavier on the 460- was it just generally beefier, all-around, pretty consistently? Or did you notice marked variation in HOW the frame/crankcase is laid-out? What about the crankcase//cylinder interface, I have to imagine that at-minimum they have a larger piston-cutout in the crnakcase on 460, than on a 440? What about other "ancillary/auxilliary" stuff, from the starter assembly to important stuff like cranks&bearings, the clutch assembly etc.....did they go and beef them all up, or does the 460 sport the same crankcase-internals, basically, as a 440? Thanks a ton for insight, will make a video ASAP I swear (well, *more*, I do have some) to show I'm not "an armchair guy" here, actually am building (2) side by side, actually they're already more-than built but I see them as a never-ending project, what could be more fun than continuing to push one of the most iconic platforms in powersaw history right?? ;D Thanks so much for all the videos, so great learning from someone who has that long-term experience (man I watched your BOCES class video like 4 or 5 times lol)
I need help my husband is starting up selling fire wood and he dies lumber work for his bday we got him a new saw well that saw was taken . I need to get another one now what and where do you have one for sale he loved his 500i I can’t afford another one and his backup 251 c won’t cut it I need help
i didnt mean to offend you. i was just curious if your numbers were going to stay the same or are you going to move them. didnt sound rigjt when i wrote it. please dont take it the wrong way sir.
My 044 never missed a beat,never failed after 15 years
THANX for the saw story's. I'm a YARDER LOGGER , from NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, way up in the woods, I know I've heard all the CALIFORNIA jocks, any way , my fall'in saw was 064 mag very tough strong runner when the 066 bought 2 of them, I sold one of the 066's and bought a 440 mag ,best thing that ever happened, we got a lot of big timber here, but the trees aren't as big as thay were and we were run'in 066's with a 36" bar's but when the timber started getting smaller, that 440 mag was THE saw with 28inch bar was light and fast enough to do most the work I needed to do and,still had the 066 mag , for backup.
Now got a bunch a saws STIHL AND HUSKY and love'em all !!! But now I'm 60 and retired from job related ,that's another story!!!! P.S. one day U mentioned wanted to fall 1 of these big cali dug fur's come out to the west coast and I'll find U some !!!!! THANK 'S from NOR-CAL!!!!
Thanks Harv for your explanation of the differences between the two saws and thanks for the stories of you and Dave.
Saws make me feel good too! So does this glass of wild turkey I’m drinking! Really enjoy your stories. Keep‘em coming.
Awesome video Harvey. I’ve learned so much watching your videos. Made me try my hand at porting and few of my saws. My 394 is back up and running. And now I started on a 372. Been ordering part from wolf creek.just placed another order today for the 372 build.
Harvey
Glad your still rockin . You definitely had me worried when you started that quitting talk . We need you . And yep I'm color blind when it comes to power saws too . I like em all.
Keep up the great work 👍💪
Thank Harvey for your time and stories love it buddy. Gonna be great to see Eric on the show again. I love all saws also different strokes for different folks. 🌲❤🌲✊
im just getting in to building saws something iv always enjoyed working on and love felling and buckin trees well just really enjoy hearing and running saws so glad i found your channel iornhorse! now i know im not alone to saw addiction lol also i just picked up an olds 044 it was tossed in the juck pile at the scrapyard i couldn't believe my eyes friends i grabbed it up and took it to the scale house and they actually sold it to me for-----yall ready for this -----$5 hahaha i was in ahh all day just absolutely was a great day and its a nice one too just needs a little tlc and she will be back to life and i cant wait to hear her fire off for the first time.i just had to sure this amazing day with you guys and say im glad to be her friend!!! and thanks so much iorn horse you have really helped me out wit!!h the learning curve and made this so much more fun keep on keeping on good sir
Best combo I ever built was a stock 460 top end put on a 440 bottom. Takes a bit of filing here and there, but it is a fairly easy swap.
i fell limbed and logged for years with a 460 Magnum, 32 inch bar , full skip, full wrap handle... my opinion the best saw I ever ran! fell in love with it!
i have a 440 dont get me wrong! if I'm out firewooding or something, 440 all day, its lighter... if Im at work, making A LIVING with a saw... 460 MAG ALL DAY LONG! I always throw my 440 in as a backup saw, incase the 460 blows, gets squished, what ever... but if I'm LOGGING, 460.......
@@helmighomestead2976 An 046 top end can be put on a 044, but there is some slight machine work involved.
Two awesome saws. Thanks for the stories Harvey.
Looking forward to your video with Eric. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Please take care of your fluffiness.
Thanks for the video on a friday! Hope you have a great weekend!👍
Cheers from NZ Harvey, I thought I knew a little about saws till watching your videos, put myself back to rank novice, please keep sharing your expert detailed knowledge its the best on youtube. Learnt a bit about tomatoes to.
Great video. Love the stories!!! I have ran a 044 and now seem to need one to go with the other 4 - 70cc saws lol. I love all saws regardless of brand
Thanks for the advice to keep felling chain reserved for felling until the felling is done.
Saws make me feel good too!
Harvey, all the people who thank you every time you upload a Video is a testament to your mentoring. These Videos will live long after we’re gone and be helpful to future generations!
Keep doing what you do so well!
HARVEY GLAD TO SEE YOUR A LOVER OF ALL SAWS ,AND NOT A FIGHTER LOL GREAT STORYS AND VIDEOS AS ALWAYS THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK LOOK FORWARD TO EACH VIDEO,YOUR A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE MY FRIEND BE SAFE GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND
I appreciate there are good stihl's but i got soured on them early in my 20's. Now i am 53 with 60 some saws in the shop and only 1 stihl pole saw. Maybe time to give them another chance. Thanks Harvey
Harvey I had a 044 I used for firewood when I was selling your the best stay safe
Everytime you mention Barbs cooking, I want to come over for dinner.
Glad you didn't stop uncle harve, we love spending some time with you!
Love my 10mm 044 . I had a 460 aftermarket big bore top end ported on a 12mm 044. Light and ran like crazy go to saw most of the time.
Love my ported 044 and the ported 046, they pull like freight trains!
I’m right there with ya! My wife has her grandmothers cook book. She was a sweet lady, and southern baptist at that. I almost think I need to quit being a pipe welder and start logging. Might loose weight again. I don’t think I’m going to stop eating lol
Hi harv you're family here in Scotland Will always be here for you.. we love all you're videos.. tinman he's a good fella too. We have learned loads from you. And tinman. am building a Husqavana Cr 125 at the moment. A put a new wonsser piston in it. changed the jets in the carb an it's still not running quite right. But a will get to the bottom of it.. signing off now see you tomorrow. ( FAM)..
I just stumbled on to ur videos and I want to say that you are the man . And I hope you keep doing what you are doing . My girl friend hurd me listening watching ur vids and she started to also and said your awesome and entertaining and now we watch your videos together . Great job on the muffler mods to btw thanks for everything
Truly hope to see ol Dave run more sir. An im excited about junkyard dog. Love the channel buddy.
Hi Harvey and Cullen!!😀😀
Harv, you have 2 of my most favorite saws that I ever had sitting there!!😀
That 046 doesn't have too many hours on it. The way I can tell that is the ribs on the handle are still like new. Once you get around 7 to 8 hundred cords on them the ribs will be getting pretty smooth on the bottom side of the top half of the handle.
It's too bad that they get worn out and just aren't worth keeping them going.
Take care my friend!!😀😀
Logger Al
Someone said you DM them, I won a prize, I figured it was a scam. No a builder but you have a good channel. Keep up the great job, like Buckin' Billy, love you Ironhorse. Once again, great saw at Bunyan.
we love you Harvey one day at a time..... that's how to take life
372xp high top and 1985 Honda CR500. The two things I can watch again and again.
Watchin and learnin here.
I love this power saw buildin stuff.
It's like drag racing only much cheaper.
I had a 046 Magnum bought it brandnew in 1999 decided to retire on couple months ago. The cost to rebuild it was cost prohibitive parts are not cheap in Canada. Bought a new 462 not as much torque but it’s quicker pulls 28 bar with full house pretty damn good.
I stumbled upon this channel a few weeks ago by searching for videos on a specific chainsaw and I’m tickled to death that I did. I’ve become addicted to Harvey lol.
Good man. Seems like you share because you care, especially about saws and logging stories.
Harvey..good. Tips for 044...for long life tips. Thanks. For. Videos
I really injoy your videos hop to see more stihls and more stories with them
i work for a tree service and we have the local city contract here and weve been taking out 1-6 ash trees everyday and unless its more then 3 feet ill always go for the 461 or if its only 24ish ill grab the 400c which has been suprising me with the power for how light it is. but when its real big i always go for the 661 theres really just no comparison in the power. if your good and sharp that 661 just eats wood without skipping a beat. im yet to run any ported saws but i would like to get one sometime.the 660s though do get real heavy and will turn your arms to jello in a hurry lol. great video
Iron horse. The world needs your knowledge my brother. DO NOT stop.
Knowledge is rare. !!
Shout out to Tinman saws !!!!!
My first real saw was a red lever 044 a mentor of mine gave me for free before he moved. It had a blown up top end and I rebuilt it. I run a 046 at work and it's great but I wouldn't hesitate to run my 044 side by side with it and cut just as good
IRONHORSE, WE LOVE YOU. WE NEED TO SEE YOU EVERYDAY, YOU ARE PART OF OUR FAMILY. WE JUST WANT YOU HAPPY BUT PLEASE DON'T STOP MAKING VIDEOS!!!
IRONHORSE AND TINMAN ARE KILLING IT, TEACHING US WITH GREAT EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS!!!
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a trick to log back into an instagram account??
I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
@@zachariahemanuel4017 Google is going to give you more-accurate answers than ANYONE in this comment space can, I urge you to delete your post as it's rude to leave an off-topic, it's been months & nobody replied it would be nice to remove it so it doesn't live-on in this video's comments for eternity ;)
Hope you got into the account, I mean it's either going to be simple email-based re-passwording, I've NEVER been unable to get into an account that I legitimately owned (online, banks etc) despite losing pins/passwords...that said, I can tell you don't even waste your time trying to get-into someone else's account, whether facebook or instagram or whatever, I can assure you it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you have physical access to their machine to put a keylogger in....or visual access to see the password being entered....or setup a MitM attack to get the pin if they're using wifi....but if you're phrasing your Q here like you did I promise you aren't going to be doing man-in-the-middle attacks lol, and stealing someone's pin/password is not going to 'go well' for you in the end I promise!
Good stories Mr. Harvey!
Great video harvy
I also love these two saws. I have one 044 I ported and one 046 that I put a hyway big bore kit on. It's nice! Lots of power! I have several 440's, and here is where I have a few questions. I have yet to have a 044 bottom end open. However I have had several 440's completely apart and was surprized to see Japan stamped bearings. I know for a fact that these saws had never been open since new. So when did a German made saw start using Japanese parts? Did this also happen with the 044? My uneducated guess would be no, simply based on my observation that the old 044's seem to far outlast the 440's.
I’m not a saw expert, but the classic John Deere 4010 tractors built back in the 60’s would have Japanese bearings in them from the factory. Would amaze the farmer/owner every time.
Wait a big-bore 46??? I thought the 460 already was a big-bore? Isn't it the 440, with 2mm wider bore cylinder&piston put on it? I'm eager AS HELL to find a good 440 V 460 comparison, to learn how Stihl approaches accommodation of larger-bore top-ends, as I've got a pair of 660's & big-bore 56mm kits that I'm putting on and, having recently learned that Stihl effectively did 'big bore 440' with the 460, I've been watching these 4** videos hoping to find the comparisons/differences in specs for how Stihl does the big-bore 440 (ie, the 460!) I'd worried, but expected, that they would NOT just slap a new top-end on and call it done, and Harv mentioning a "heavier frame" on the 460 does support my thinking/fear that the entirety of the bottom-end/crankcase of a 460 is "proportionately larger&stronger than a 440's, to account-for the new bore"....in which case it means that running aftermarket big-bores is absolutely "far more pressure on the saw than intended" and more likely to fail (thankfully failures are OK with me here, oddly enough, because I got 2 of these clone 660's precisely for playing builder, so long as I always have 1 ready-to-go I still have what I need for work + parts-saw backup + increasing education&ability working the platform...nevermind that my 660's are stronger/faster like every 2wks, the big bores & 8pin upgrade this wkend should be pretty nice, including case porting ;D )
hope ya all well out there
I’m waiting for you to do a Poulan pro 5020 from tractor supply, taking a homeowners build saw, and making a beast out of it!
After using my AV090 stihl I've not minded the weight of many other saws.
I don't want to miss any of your videos .
Ya make sense to me&lm proud of ya Ironhorse! CurlyBill
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to talk and make vid's for us but would understand absolutely if you needed to take more time for domestic matters. Life with family and great friends is not guaranteed beyond the next breath. I'm learning this the hard way with cancer at 52. Take the time to make memories. There will come a time when they are all we have. Regards from Scotland.
I understand exactly what you are saying. I have both the 460 and 440, as well as my favorite, my ms 360, especially if I will be cutting high stumps. I will buck with all three. The 360 has a 20 inch Total bar. The 440 has a 25 inch bar and the 460 has a 20 inch Stihl oilamatic bar. My 460 is just a little more powerful than my 440 but it is a lot heavier, as you said. The 440 actually needs couple dog, so you run the roller chain catcher, because the natural lay of the 440 is such that the end of a long bar is aimed to far downward. The roller catcher keeps it off a flat surface.
Hello friend, hope u have a good weekend...🙏👍
looking forward to the case splitting video ,i was given a 1998 039 in a billion pieces , just wondering are hyway cranks and bearings any good, here all they sell is farmertech from what i can see, apparently Taiwan produces reasonable chainsaw parts also
Have a question about what parts are causing the weight differences between 046 and 044? Stihl manuals show weight without bar of the 044 at 13lbs and the 046 at 14.3lbs. I would think the weight of cylinder and piston together would be similar, but maybe the 046 has more material or uses a heavier metal, or is the weight difference in other parts? This question comes up because a friend has concerns as we pick aftermarket parts for an 044 cylinder and piston repair that using a larger 52mm big bore kit and more horsepower would wear out and fail the other older parts of the chainsaw rather quickly than a 50mm, and we wouldn't get to enjoy our repair for too long. Should we enjoy more horsepower of the 52mm or make a conservative purchase of a 50mm kit? thanks.
I'm lucky enough to ow a nice 046 mag factory dual porr...it has milled a few slabs...
I've got an old 41 farm boss. Needs a carb. That's one that's kind of on the back burner.
love my 044
I love my ms 440, too. Primarily because of the weight difference better ween it and the 460. The 460 is also a beast for me to start. My two favorite big saws are my ms 360 and 440. They start easy and either has enough power to cut big oak, hickory or maple rounds. If I need to make a high face cut I grab the 360 in a heart beat because it weighs three pounds less than the 440. A low face cut is fine for the 440 but if I have to lift it up- it is a bit to much weight for me. 78 will do that to you - if you know what I mean! On a high cut my Stihl 024, 025 or ms 260P are not outside the realm of possibility, even when their shorter bars and .325 chains. As Clint has said - a man has to know his limitations.
Stihl chainsaws there pretty nice. Them two you have there are. Fast cutting saws with a sharp chain.
When I got smacked by the widow maker and driven like a nail... the 046 was the saw that started and let me cut myself out... I’m definitely extremely lucky for being so dumb... never go in alone to get ahead of the game...or you’ll be alone when something breaks loose...LMFFAO! I’m still the 371xp boy...with my 28” skipper setup! I play around with all the rest...but I definitely love the 371 the best!! 😂😂😂😂👍😁
371 hard to beat for all around saw
What do you think of West Coast Saws Bark Box muffler cover?
I have a 461 stihl and the bar stud striped out of the case what should I do
Or how does a super 51 with a 28" bar skip Tooth compare with the Saws we have today? I started with them in the early seventies
saludos amigo desde xalapa,veracruz,mexico
So Harvey had a little incident with the so I just bought was bucking up some logs slipped and fell forward onto the saw pretty good gash on my shoulder thank God for Chain brakes got to learn to pay attention more😂
Great!
Yeah I got a kick out of that, both of you guys with the same video, love it, the youtube chainsaw community, tinman is a good fella I really like him too
Had my MS360 pro for years now and I swear it gets a pound heaver every year. At 72 , I can only cut about 3 hours a day and have to rest but finished this years fire wood. Think I would go crazy if I couldnt get into the woods.
been in lock down from march can only go 5kms ////back legs gone soft ///I NEED TO GO BUSH AND BAR UP
That's easy. 044 is the best saw ever made. End of story.
Must’ve never spent 15 years running a 046 huh
Or used one in winter. 044 iced something terrible. 046 for me, and I run em both for a living back in the day.
I always say the same thing to my dad about bucking, the dirt and grit on the wood is what is hard on those chains. I run mostly Carlton chains and occasionally Stihl Oilmatics. Out of my four Stihl Chainsaws I own i always run my 044 10mm slant fin with a 28" skip-tooth. It's my favorite saw. I also have an 036 Pro I run a 25" bar on and that saw really runs, and winds up with excellent mid range and top end power
It would be cool to see a ported 500i
Hey Harvey I have a stihl 029 what's the biggest sprocket I can use
lol I lose track of days all the time it's just yesterday today and tomorrow
So been running saws for forty plus years..love Stihls and Huskys...the 044 it is a much better saw to me.. the 044 is lighter and can do about everything I need...the 046 in a few pounds heavier only 15% more power and a fuel guzzler...never could understand why a an 046..an odd ball...the 441 was a joke kinda like the 042 and 048 in the early 80"s they were flops.. 044 all the way baby... You were talking about the Husqvarna 2100...the old lead sled... love those things still have 3 of them...great western timber saws...ported with a velocity slack...hold on they are a true hog....cut circular around my 395 and 390...Thanks much...Shoe SW Oregon Logger... ps still have two mint condition Stihl 056 mag II saws...still another great old hog... Take Care.
Can we see that blue thunder saw run on video Harv. That's been interesting to hear about. An with those numbers u are happy with I'd love to see those numbers in action. I run a ol 66 mag I'm wantin to get done up after i get this 461 done up hope you can show it cut with those numbers also i like Tinman an been subcribed to Tinman love his channel to never miss y'alls videos.
No mention of 044/046 Hybrid? I built one 460 P/C on a 440, giving best of both worlds, quick and snappy with more torque.
What Stihl would you recommend for a 20 in bar?
I love my 044 but I've developed a problem I can't figure out. It runs like a top so long as it's held level. As soon as I lean it down or up it stalls and gives me trouble restarting. Matters not if the tank is full or half full. It's aggravating!
Might need a carb adjustment or you have an air leak. But, I would go with the carb first.
Well its been quite awhile later, were still here, 044 is my favorite "dream saw" if you will, impossible to afford one or probably even a busted one probably so I been really really debating the g444 but I got a weird itch forv the china 272 genuine walbro carb and ignition they got a 888 now 122cc anyway I just cant justify the 272 over the 44..? And iv got/done ported bb 372xp so wanna go back stihl never ported a big stihl
get that blue saw going and out of there!.... thanks 4 video. be kind.
Hii,I have a question ,You might have the answer sir...I have a 042 Av,I know is similar with 048 Av,this models are not very popular,but most of the parts can be found,the only big problem is the cylinder, 048 has a 52mm cylinder with 36mm Stroke,the same with 046 Stihl,what do You think,it will fit?thanks a lot
How do I know this is an old video but I would love to see an MS 361 on her channel
Harv are you up near Indian lake?
Hey ironhorse what do you think of the farmertec crank shafts and bearings? I have a stihl 029 super that I'm rebuilding
I bought a new 372 from farmtec and ima leave the farmtec crank and bearings in it just for a test saw to c how long there bearings will hold up, and I have mr Harvey do his magic on a big bore 52mm piston and cylinder for me for it. I cant wait to c how its gonna turn out...🙏. I think he has the piston done, but no word on the cylinder yet...🙏🙋♂️ thank u IRONHORSE for helping me out !! Again I appreciate this more them u will ever know...
Soon kieth!
What do you think about the new still 500
Would be nice to hear Harvey do a review on this "new age" MS500i, how it cuts, etc. I have tested it myself here in Sweden mostly in pine and spruce, but have no comparison to his "hot rods".
I probably own the world's only Stihl 036 built at the end of 90's (between 1996-1998)bought in 2001 that it is in mint condition untouched inside a box! Not the magnum versions, not the 036 pro, but the old plain 036 the series that made Stihl what it is in reputation .Stihl would probably put it in their museum, hahaha.Probably it will need all the seals and gaskets changed after all these years if it is going to be used!
I love it
And its a 029 super is there a difference in the supers
AR THE OLD 056 GOOD SAW i think 056 //81cc suppa 87cc mag mk2 111cc
Just picked up an 028 av
Do they make them for men 🤔
How about 044 vs 045?
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What do you think about the 038 av super
Love it
I’ve got a nice 038 magnum 2 in at Walkers right now getting some exhaust work done. It complements my killer 066 that I have for the bigger stuff here in British Columbia.
So after 3-4 watchings (I get distracted doing background-watching yknow!), think I've taken it all in now but hoping you can correct me here where I stray!! SO...the 440 is great, but Stihl basically (no...LITERALLY) created a "big bore 440", which they call the 460. It's a 2mm larger bore, like the big-bore kits for ms660s being a 2mm larger bore as well, so I want to learn all I can Re how Stihl accommodated the 2mm larger bore here. You mention the frame was heavier on the 460- was it just generally beefier, all-around, pretty consistently? Or did you notice marked variation in HOW the frame/crankcase is laid-out?
What about the crankcase//cylinder interface, I have to imagine that at-minimum they have a larger piston-cutout in the crnakcase on 460, than on a 440?
What about other "ancillary/auxilliary" stuff, from the starter assembly to important stuff like cranks&bearings, the clutch assembly etc.....did they go and beef them all up, or does the 460 sport the same crankcase-internals, basically, as a 440?
Thanks a ton for insight, will make a video ASAP I swear (well, *more*, I do have some) to show I'm not "an armchair guy" here, actually am building (2) side by side, actually they're already more-than built but I see them as a never-ending project, what could be more fun than continuing to push one of the most iconic platforms in powersaw history right?? ;D
Thanks so much for all the videos, so great learning from someone who has that long-term experience (man I watched your BOCES class video like 4 or 5 times lol)
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I need help my husband is starting up selling fire wood and he dies lumber work for his bday we got him a new saw well that saw was taken . I need to get another one now what and where do you have one for sale he loved his 500i I can’t afford another one and his backup 251 c won’t cut it I need help
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is what it is
It usually is 😄
The 084 is nice in a tree. The 880 is a little heavy. Run both of them before. 084 alot nice
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i didnt mean to offend you. i was just curious if your numbers were going to stay the same or are you going to move them. didnt sound rigjt when i wrote it. please dont take it the wrong way sir.
I love chainsaws don’t trash chainsaws they’re very good they’re useful and fix the Chainsaws
Because they’re useful