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Is it though? I haven't played since Jan. Deleted the app off my devices. The thing that bugs me about this game is it reminds me of Warhammer 40K. Let me explain. I had an obnoxious number of figures in 3rd edition and when they when to 4th edition, they nerfed all the good figures and released figures you needed to buy to be competitive. You needed the 'new shinies' as it were. Snap is the same, they nerf what was powerful yesterday so you must have the cards that are powerful today in order to maintain competitiveness and to get you to spend money. I have not been happier getting rid of this game. I was curious to see the new cards for April. I know you're more conservative that Cozy, and the fact your dishing out high 4's is a clear indication this mentality at Snap HQ hasn't changed.
The War Machine -> Ebony Maw is also very real. Effectively a 5/15 play, better than a Zero'd Red Skull. Plus it gives you more versatility on when to play them since they cost less compared to the Infinaut combo.
The surfer build with hope actually lets you play an additional 3 cost vs Sera. Hope on 3, 3drop on 4 proc Hope, 2 3’s on five, 2 3’s on six. 6 3’s total vs sera which lets you play 5 3’s total. Also hope lets you do turn 6 surfer absman while still getting 5 total 3 drops (incl surfer).
Shes immediately fitting into my Surfer deck. I always try to include a Wong and Odin combo by getting a turn 7 and using Wave to drop Odin and another 3 drop onto the Wong. Hope Summers is going to make this even better to get 7 energy for 6 to drop Wong and Surfer.
What Alex is missing in his energy math is that Sera costs 5 while Hope costs 3, but they have the same power (Hope actually has more if you consider that she gets buffed by Surfer). He's wondering how to match the 3 energy Sera saves you, but 2 of them are right there, so Hope only has to save you 1 to match Sera, and she can do better than that. That said, she does make your turn 6 less explosive, which is significant. Still, I think she has a strong chance to at least match Sera's power in Surfer decks.
@@christopherbrown2388 Also allows for turn 6 Surfer + Abs man as well so more flexible. Agree overall she will be better than Sera except have to draw by turn 3 instead of 5. Could also see both being in the deck to allow 2 ways to get the cards out.
@@christopherbrown2388 my bad man, I miss understood you initially. Thats good point for surfer decks that extra 3 drop would probably be more helpful than Sera. (Deleted my previous comment to no confuse others)
34:57 The last card I've bought with tokens was a variant. Got the hulk. Can't remember what I got before then and that's been months and months. It's a struggle as a mostly f2p player to keep up with playing enough to bank the keys needed to get the cards every week. And not having an off week anymore is harder. They really should do at least 1 s4 since series drops are not going to really happen anymore.
I was top 50 in North America for Warcraft Frozen Throne too! In the 2 vs 2 mode. We ran dual night elves. Bears, Dryads and Huntress/Talons/Chimeras. What a throwback! Cool to hear Alexander was playing the same game back in the day and was also in top 50 ranking 😎
@@AlexanderCoccia that’s awesome! Those were some fun times! Appreciate the reply. Hopefully one day they make WC4 😁 anyways, just subbed. Thanks for the blast from the past and insightful Snap content 👏🏻
Hope + Deadpool + Venom unfortunately doesn't work that way I believe. Deadpool does give you that extra energy, but Hope needs to stay on the battlefield in order for Hope's ability to proc.
No. With the way things like Nico and Forget and the stones work, destroyed or not her ability will still proc. Playing her into Deadpool plus venom does give you the extra energy. Then she's gone.
@@Ryuuk00Nico and Forge still work because they’re on reveal abilities. The closest comparison is Angela because she’s a triggered ability. If you bounce Angela with Beast her ability doesn’t trigger because she’s not on the board. Venom on Hope’s lane won’t trigger her ability because she’s not on the board anymore.
I think Hope as a ramp option will only really make sense in Kitty or Silk decks. The important thing to realize is that compared to other 3 cost ramps, it only benefits you on turns 5 and 6. Since ramp basically skips the first 2 turns, not doing anything meaningful on 4 is just not feasible.
Yeah the only way I’ve found to use her in a ramp deck to cheat turn four is to combo with a 0-cost on turn three, or Psylocke on turn two and a 1-cost on three. Both of these fill your deck with garbage cards and don’t even work half the time.
At 14:30 you mention ramping into Infinaut using Hope, this actually is possible using War Machine and I see it as one of the most insane lines next season. T3 Hope->T4 War Machine->T5 Infinaut->T6 anything really Edit; you said it much later 😅
You need two effects, the Cozy Skip and the Cozy Snag. The card that's most skipable and then your 5star of the month card. Bells ringing and lights popping etc.
the thing about Iron-Man based cards is always about aiding a card Iron-Heart and Hulk Buster aids your card's power Iron-Man and Iron-Lad aids your deck combo Rescue and War Machine aids pinning down a location
Naw. I think cards like Mockingbird, Miles Morales, Stature are the bonus they are giving. I doubt they will do the traditional style bonuses like that. But.... Who knows what year three will bring.
Hah Alex that apm discussion was a blast from the past. I also trained and played Starcraft Broodwar in the early 2000s, played it competetively and everyone in Sweden was flexing their APM aswell :) I never had that high APM, averaging 150-170 across a typical game. While the pro koreans had around 400.
For Hope Summers in a Silver Surfer deck, a really simple but effective line of play would be: > T3: Summer. > T4: Play something on Summer OR Summer + 1-drop on top of her. > T5: x2 3-drops (set-up). > T6: x2 3-drops (finishers). So you are playing an extra 3-drop compared to the usual T5 Sera, before even accounting for the fact that you can of-course keep playing cards on top of Summers to make an even stronger T5 and T6 playlines.
One last time Have you heard the legend of 'Corvus the Discarder' and 'Proxima the Discarded'? It's not a tale the Second Dinner would tell you. Once upon a time, Discard was forgotten. But then came Corvus Glaive. He and his buddy Electro teamed up to discard big bodacious cards. But soon after arrived Proxima Midnight. Once Corvus *discarded* her, he could never stop. Sometimes he would accidentally discard Hela and that would make Proxima angry. But Corvus was always sorry for that. He becomes too high on energy everytime he visits Kama-Taj with Electro. So he would be unable to differentiate between Hela and Proxima since they both have thorn-like helmets and both have *Discardable Features* . But Proxima loves him as much as he loves her. So she forgave his past mistakes. Corvus loves *discarding* Proxima and Proxima loves being discarded by Corvus. This power couple *discarded* all over marvel snap. They discarded on the faces of Thanos meta-slaves, making them cry like toddlers. They even *discarded* on famous snap content creators. They brought new life to the *Discard* genre. They *discarded* so hard that even Morbius said, "It's discardin' time." They became the new and true power couple of marvel. Everyone was in awe of their *discarding* capabilities.
Haven't heard a lot of people talk about these yet but I think these three cards have potential with Pixie - Miles Morales: Move a card and he's a 1-cost regardless. - Proxima: When discarded you play her out for free so her having a higher cost doesn't matter. - Swarm: Swarm getting a higher cost also doesn't matter since you'd ideally discard it and get two 0-cost copies back. Greedy players might want the flashiness of swapping a Wasp's cost with a Magneto but even swapping a 6-cost with Miles/Proxima is a 2 energy discount which is still massive since discounted cards have historically been great in Snap. Also, Mockingbird could potentially go into Discard. The 0-cost copies of Swarm didn't start in your deck so if you discard Swarm even a single time and play out both copies Mockingbird is a 3/9. Colleen Wing and Silver Samurai allow you to target discard Swarm from your hand. Silver Samurai potentially even combos well with Stature, so you could set up a turn 6 where you play a 1-cost Stature, a 3-cost Mockingbird and a 2-drop of choice. If you get more than 2 Swarms out that gets even better. Add Moon Girl to the mix for even more discounts on Mockingbird - and to get another copy of Mockingbird/Stature/Proxima. Will it be a good deck? Probably not if you go as greedy as I'm suggesting but I think there's a fun middle ground.
I would rank the new season Mockingbird > Hope > War Machine > Pixie > Cannonball, but yeah, it's going to be quite a meta shift in March. If Hope is anywhere near as popular as Ms. Marvel, I do wonder how that changes the value of cards like Cosmo or the Guardians in response.
I think Mockingbird will be lower than that. Due to they have to be in play. I think War Machine will be the top card of the month. Being able to play anywhere is just really powerful with locations and current meta. It can also bring goose back where you can shut down someone's lane.
Question for the mail bag: what would you guys think of a card that had the ability to pull the card that bounced back into your hand back on the board? So when falcon sends the 1 cost cards into your hand that card would grab it and pull it to its location
If you Black Swan (next turn all of your 1 cost cards cost 0), then on the following turn, play Pixie, does it shuffle the zero cost to the cards in your deck? (assuming that you have one cost cards still in your deck)
Mockingbird was such a slept on card and I'm glad she's finally getting talked about. Sure. She's a boring card. No deck is going to build around Mockingbird. But at 4/9 she's on par with Cull Obsidian that trades 1 Power to be immune to Shang-Chi. At 3/9 she's a stronger and risk-free Gladiator. And she keeps going. Only getting better and better the more a deck exploits her ability. She's hands down, without contest, the best stat/Power stick (so far) in Marvel Snap. I would be surprised if Mockingbird doesn't get nerfed for that reason. Even at 5/8 or 5/7, the decks that would take her all the way down to 0 by just playing normally (e.g. Thanos/Moongirl/Dino/Agents/Patriot) are going to get her Power for free regardless. It's the decks that can reduce her down to 4-3-2 cost without trying or just by throwing in a Squirrel Girl as their 1-cost and looking to play Mockingbird for sheer value... That might make her problematic at such high Power.
Honestly considering the statline and effect of hope a small buff to electro would be justified. 3/4 power electro would propably not be a problem where every ramp card is either 5 or 4 power
Cozy, War Machines ability fits his character cause ... hes a war machine and lets you assault each lane no limitations think about it, he turns ur hand into a metaphorical war machine
Btw, Alex didn't see the playline for Surfer and Hope Summers, which is fine (!) he's more of a hands-on tinkerer, but here it is: Turn 3 Hope Summers Turn 4 any card on Hope Turn 5 = 6 Power for 2x3 cost, 1 played on Hope Summers Turn 6 = 7 Power for 3 cost + Absorbing Man (or even Iron Lad if that's your deck) You are 50/50 to have Hope on Turn 3 so it's not like you're building the whole deck around her, and unlike Sera she's a 3-cost. Crystal is sub-sub-optimal but in a Hope + Surfer deck, her value definitely increases. (I still don't want to give my opponents a card, I'm just saying that this is one deck she is not outright terrible in.)
no series 4 card: check busted SP card: check cards release that most likely will get nerfed (war machine) : check seems like SD is playing the hits. can't wait to see patch notes with 0 QoL changes or announced new features
@@ilovandaele2184 i too cannot understand what these people mean by war machine is busted like if you face a discard player where's the storm or prof x to use wm on hela ain't gonna care for your 4 6 WM
Why are you acting like every season pass card is busted? Last 3 have been Sebastian Shaw (only played in some surfer decks), Skaar (a solid playable card in some decks but not OP), and Black Swan (barely anyone plays her and she is replaceable in the decks she is in). We had a run of monsters with Loki, Elsa, and Ms. Marvel but no other recent card has felt like a must buy to stay meta relevant.
@@hafsaahmed7716 i also picked up a lot of hustle over the infinaut without skipping thing, you spent turn 5 telegraphing your play just to get 20 power... He is good don't get me wrong but more chang-chi/enchantress/wave good good to either counter lockdown or cheese sone niche combo out
Alex!!! I loved Mass Effect series. I do feel after 3 it started shifting. But agreed with Cozy on ME2 being just perfect in terms of everything! Loved hearing this part of the snapchat
Zabu, Hope summers, warmachine on hope, and either Infanaut on 5 or 2 “4s” or a 4 a 2 and a maw. Warmachine is gonna love hope. Hell you can Infanaut behind a Goose
I don't think enough people are talking about this but you guys kinda touched on it on this episode. Is it possible to gain and maintain collection complete anymore without being at least a dolphin? I have planned my collection-complete (approximate) date since like November. I bought very carefully, skipped weeks where I knew the card would be back in caches soon. Next week with Man-Thing I finally get there but with the extra release each month this year it's cost me SO MUCH extra in tokens. I have spent 6k a week for almost a month now but have the keys ready for next week though. Might have enough for the following week. I buy every season pass, have done since late 2022, I buy a few cash bundles too. I now find that I genuinely need to get lucky to maintain collection completion into April. Before these recent changes I should be ready to stay complete for months if not permanently post-March. I get that they want to make it hard but I think they may have made it impossible without buying an expensive bundle every month. Love the show guys, watch/listen every week since the first. Keep it up. 😁
For Surfer and Hope - Hope allows 2 3 drops on turn 5 instead of just Sera, then can drop surfer + abs on turn 6. So much better imo than Sera. Still get 3 3 drops down, and Abs man on top.
In Mass Effect I absolutely agonized over killing the Geth, or saving the Krogan. I put my controller down and paced around my living room for like 5 minutes before deciding. I cured the Krogan…to this day I’m still not sure if I made the right decision. Sorry, I know this is a Snap video, but they brought it up!😂
Is this the revival of kitty pride? I call it, Kitty's Hope. Turn 1 kitty. turn 2 Angela. turn 3 Hope. turn 4 Kitty + 3 cost of your choice. Turn 5 Kitty + Sera. Turn 6 is miracle turn +1 extra energy from hope. unless it's 1 energy per unit played, then you have +2 energy to play with on turn 6 on top of Sera's reduction.
I think a nasty combo with Hope Summers that yall didn't touch on was use wasp same turn to get 5 energy turn 4 and with that there's so many combos. You can pro x, or Nimrod. Just some thoughts.
Can you please do a topic in relation to card acquisition? It feels really bad atm, I feel like if I miss a card, I essentially miss out on an entire deck and also card nerfs not giving you some collectors tokens after spending 6000k of them on a card just for it to get changed, its disheartening
I'm excited to see how Pixie's mechanic actually shakes out in live matches. I think she'll definitely make for some fun and interesting plays however, I've always been skeptical of the mechanics that have the "shuffle" word in their language. The Subterranea location states "shuffle" but everytime I draw into at least 2 rocks back to back right after it showing up.. Korg and Rock Slide state "shuffle" but those back to back rocks are literally always within my next 1-2 draws and never end up near the bottom of my deck. Maybe it's just my luck in Snap lol but I could definitely see me playing Pixie down then immediately drawing the original low cost cards that now cost 6 back to back, and none of the 6 drops that got switched w lower costs😂😂
Hope Summers is a must have, Pixie looks fun even if she might not be great plus I still need MMM and Spider-Ham from that week, and War Machine is going to lead to some crazy shenanigans. Mockingbird looks really solid but I won't have the keys to get her and Cannonball seems alright but very skippable.
You can play two 3's on turn 5 with Hope and those 3s are more power than just a Sera on 5, even without counting Surfer buffs. Then on turn 6 you can play two 3s and a 2 drop.
Also I love the synergy from you two. Very rare to see so much respect and diligence amongst two guys. You two are great role models for the community. Keep up the great work!
I have played since release. I think, of allllll the things that have made me crazy in this game, the featured location of “the peak” was one of the worst. I totally see pixie as a mini peak bomb, and while I’m excited for cards that flip things on their head, I think this could get really old really fast.
Man, I don't know what happened in the Avengers vs X-men comic, but War Machine musta come outta nowhere and murdered Professor X. Cuz that's gonna happen in Marvel Snap.
People won't be playing Warmachine as much as you think. People don't play Legion or Quake or Cosmo or Shadow King. Not enough that Professor X will be unplayable. Give it the month and he'll be with the rest of the tech cards collecting dust.
@@Ryuuk00 Really underselling him if you're only looking at him as a tech card. Hope>WM>Infinaut will be a very strong playline regardless of anything else it ends up doing. Ebony Maw becomes a really good card with him cause now you can just play him whenever you get the chance to, whether playing into his lane, or playing him after WM. Sure, you can use it to counter Prof X, (though, who's even playing him these days?), and storm etc., but he's gonna be used as an aggressive card that can double as tech. Not gonna say that means he's omg the best card ever, but there's no way he fades into obscurity like those other 4.
I'm surprised at the excitement for Pixie when you (Alex) hate MISTER NEGATIVE so much...and he was never even mentioned in the video! She's much cheaper, so that's a big plus. But still, you have to play her then draw those cards. Unlike with Mister Negative, her changes are random, so you might have to draw 3 cards to get 1 good one. Are you going to build an ENTIRE deck around a card that you won't even have on Turn 2 59% of the time? (Turn 3 is 50/50.) I don't think she's going to be all that great. FUN and CRAZY...yes, 100% she'll be fun. We'll have to see what happens with Mobius M Mobius drastically reducing the risks. I do like Cozy's idea of including Maria Hill, etc., just so you can add some playable cards to your hand if need be. But again, that's building a deck around Pixie.
I’ve been playing a Shanna/Dazzler kind of a deck for the past week. Making use of that beautiful Artgerm variant for Dazzler and Mockingbird is gonna be so welcomed in that deck.
My ratings: Hope Summers: Super strong, 4 or 4.5 Pixie: Hard to evaluate but.. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 2.5-3.5 in that range. Mockingbird: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5. Cannonball: Realistically he's a 2 War Machine: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5. Let's see what ends up happening. This season will be craziness. Edit: In terms of my power level rankings, I'll say: Mockingbird 1 (could be War Machine too), War Machine 2, Hope 3, Pixie 4, Cannonball 5.
I'm free to play, have all series 3, and only missing about 15 Series 4-5. Each month I gain four to five new cards, so I'm even gaining ground on the Series 4-5. So while I don't get everything while they are brand spankin' new, I still eventually get everything. So don't feel bad for us! It's a fine consolation for spending literally nothing on an awesome game.
Forget who mentioned this but just imagine if you will playing a very simple Pixie Destroy deck with only like Zola and Knull as 6 drops and the rest just the usual 1,2,3 cost destroy cards so you just almost guarantee the Knull and Zola become low cost. They can only swap with each other or all low cost cards. And hitting each other is a very low chance.
@@peterkefalos7430 Not all of it will be that expensive, only two of the cards homie. Then you can play them late as long as it isn't on a knull lane and destroy more.
How you guys feel about the alioth Guardian deck to counter Hope Summers, but add JEAN GREY which counters what Hope does? Guardian and the alioth deck?
Mailbag: Second Dinner seems to have abandoned offering any decent Gold bundle offers. The last few offers have all been overpriced cash buy options only. Do you think the developers are getting too greedy? As a long time player, I no longer feel like players are getting anything close to good value. Please let us know what you think about this.
this is my hot take: war machine will NOT be anything but as ok tech card the point everyone seems to be missing is that jeff not costs half of war machine's cost, but was machine itself DON'T have the jeff effect, you will have to play WM, and after that play other cards where you want, its a very taxing curve do use a 4-drop for that effect, and thats why jeff shines so much.. hell, even if WM had jeff effect, he would not be as used as jeff. other point is that as a tech card, WM is in the lower spectrum of value, you have way more games where other effects are more important than this jeff one, and even then you have jeff itself as the prime "location access" effect, so WM will have not only to compete against jeff (the best card in the game) but against all other tech cards in your deck. my guess is that he will spawn some niche decks based on positioning of cards like crossbones and cull, and then he will be forgotten and relegated to a mediocre tech, like shadow king is nowadays, which is ok, we need more tech cards
Does Mockingbird cost 0 if you play 5 infinity stones? The text for Thanos says to shuffle the infinity stones into your deck meaning they don’t start there right?
He has the topics where there is more to say. Only so much you can say in yet another top ten list week after week. Honestly think they could stay off those for a minute but shoot, I don't have a replacement idea so I'm just gonna sit back down and be quiet.
Ravonna, Hope in a lane by herself, Green Goblin in that lane on 4, on turn five play Hobgoblin in that lane a cloack on another. Turn 6 move hope to closcks lane and galactus on the lane hope was in. Might be fun to pull off.
March looks awesome but I think Im just going to try and pull for Pixie then save for the White Widow week to grab her and that Momoko Nico Minoru. Also Hope Summers into a High Evo surfer deck with Jean and Cyclops just sounds fun.
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looks a lot like snap...
I choked on my coffee when I heard Alex said Killmonger variant looks like him 😂
ITS A GREAT MONTH TO BE A MARVEL SNAP PLAYER
When is it not?
YAAAAASSSSS
He said the thing!
Is it though? I haven't played since Jan. Deleted the app off my devices. The thing that bugs me about this game is it reminds me of Warhammer 40K. Let me explain. I had an obnoxious number of figures in 3rd edition and when they when to 4th edition, they nerfed all the good figures and released figures you needed to buy to be competitive. You needed the 'new shinies' as it were. Snap is the same, they nerf what was powerful yesterday so you must have the cards that are powerful today in order to maintain competitiveness and to get you to spend money. I have not been happier getting rid of this game.
I was curious to see the new cards for April. I know you're more conservative that Cozy, and the fact your dishing out high 4's is a clear indication this mentality at Snap HQ hasn't changed.
HOLY SHIT HE SAID IT!!!
Wasn't excited for War Machine until I found out about his synergy with Infinaut
Needing 6 Energy will stop you from playing Infinaut anywhere next turn 😋
Although as Alex says, Hope Summers' teamwork makes the dream work
@@erismo2138 huh? 20 power is more than worth spending 6 energy on. Have you never heard of Evolved Hulk or Blob?
So youre rank 20 @@erismo2138
The War Machine -> Ebony Maw is also very real. Effectively a 5/15 play, better than a Zero'd Red Skull. Plus it gives you more versatility on when to play them since they cost less compared to the Infinaut combo.
war machine into infanaut won't work because infanaut only works if you don't play a card the previous turn so it won't work
Hope Summers is going straight into Thanos replacing Lockjaw
Unfortunately
Well it only shuffles what started there so I guess you gotta get lucky with a lockjaw swap.
@@MrBreakdownxthats Pixie, not Hope
@@themightybrick2264 my bad I was reading while listening to pixie part of the video.
I don’t think so
The surfer build with hope actually lets you play an additional 3 cost vs Sera. Hope on 3, 3drop on 4 proc Hope, 2 3’s on five, 2 3’s on six. 6 3’s total vs sera which lets you play 5 3’s total. Also hope lets you do turn 6 surfer absman while still getting 5 total 3 drops (incl surfer).
Don't forget that you can do all this without having to worry about Mr. Mobius!
Shes immediately fitting into my Surfer deck. I always try to include a Wong and Odin combo by getting a turn 7 and using Wave to drop Odin and another 3 drop onto the Wong. Hope Summers is going to make this even better to get 7 energy for 6 to drop Wong and Surfer.
What Alex is missing in his energy math is that Sera costs 5 while Hope costs 3, but they have the same power (Hope actually has more if you consider that she gets buffed by Surfer). He's wondering how to match the 3 energy Sera saves you, but 2 of them are right there, so Hope only has to save you 1 to match Sera, and she can do better than that. That said, she does make your turn 6 less explosive, which is significant. Still, I think she has a strong chance to at least match Sera's power in Surfer decks.
@@christopherbrown2388 Also allows for turn 6 Surfer + Abs man as well so more flexible. Agree overall she will be better than Sera except have to draw by turn 3 instead of 5. Could also see both being in the deck to allow 2 ways to get the cards out.
@@christopherbrown2388 my bad man, I miss understood you initially. Thats good point for surfer decks that extra 3 drop would probably be more helpful than Sera. (Deleted my previous comment to no confuse others)
The time has come to prepare the red carpet for the new card of the meta, WAR MACHINE
BOOM! Ya looking for this?
Did Alex just become my favorite? Talks about Thane and read the books? Yeah, he's my new guy
I could see Pixie being good with new Adam Warlock
Came here to say this
Copium
Nothing will save that now horrible card
44:39 you can see Mockingbird in Agents Of Shield she's Bobbi Morse. Also yeah the Half-Life series are some of the best games
34:57 The last card I've bought with tokens was a variant. Got the hulk. Can't remember what I got before then and that's been months and months. It's a struggle as a mostly f2p player to keep up with playing enough to bank the keys needed to get the cards every week. And not having an off week anymore is harder. They really should do at least 1 s4 since series drops are not going to really happen anymore.
I was top 50 in North America for Warcraft Frozen Throne too! In the 2 vs 2 mode. We ran dual night elves. Bears, Dryads and Huntress/Talons/Chimeras. What a throwback! Cool to hear Alexander was playing the same game back in the day and was also in top 50 ranking 😎
I was a Night Elf main too! LETS GO!
Disappointed you were an ally, Alex :( For the horde! Lok tar ogar!
@@AlexanderCoccia that’s awesome! Those were some fun times! Appreciate the reply.
Hopefully one day they make WC4 😁 anyways, just subbed. Thanks for the blast from the past and insightful Snap content 👏🏻
It's a great month to not have any spotlight caches 💀
If you Pixie your Wasp and Yellow Jacket, and have MMM out. Would JF pull out 4 cards?
Hope + Deadpool + Venom unfortunately doesn't work that way I believe. Deadpool does give you that extra energy, but Hope needs to stay on the battlefield in order for Hope's ability to proc.
Deadpool gives energy?
You just need it to proc twice to do broken things. Placing Deadpool and eating it with venom procs it twice
No. With the way things like Nico and Forget and the stones work, destroyed or not her ability will still proc. Playing her into Deadpool plus venom does give you the extra energy. Then she's gone.
@@Ryuuk00Nico and Forge still work because they’re on reveal abilities. The closest comparison is Angela because she’s a triggered ability. If you bounce Angela with Beast her ability doesn’t trigger because she’s not on the board. Venom on Hope’s lane won’t trigger her ability because she’s not on the board anymore.
@@jordanherget4453 she's not an ongoing so we'll see
Cozy mentioning Little Big Planet made me unbelievably happy! Been so long since I've heard someone mention it
48:00 MASS effect Thane
I think Hope as a ramp option will only really make sense in Kitty or Silk decks. The important thing to realize is that compared to other 3 cost ramps, it only benefits you on turns 5 and 6. Since ramp basically skips the first 2 turns, not doing anything meaningful on 4 is just not feasible.
This guy gets it
Yeah the only way I’ve found to use her in a ramp deck to cheat turn four is to combo with a 0-cost on turn three, or Psylocke on turn two and a 1-cost on three. Both of these fill your deck with garbage cards and don’t even work half the time.
At 14:30 you mention ramping into Infinaut using Hope, this actually is possible using War Machine and I see it as one of the most insane lines next season. T3 Hope->T4 War Machine->T5 Infinaut->T6 anything really
Edit; you said it much later 😅
opponent ProfXs on 5 and Chi on 6
You need two effects, the Cozy Skip and the Cozy Snag. The card that's most skipable and then your 5star of the month card. Bells ringing and lights popping etc.
I missed somewhere how War Machine's card ability fits his character.
the thing about Iron-Man based cards is always about aiding a card
Iron-Heart and Hulk Buster aids your card's power
Iron-Man and Iron-Lad aids your deck combo
Rescue and War Machine aids pinning down a location
Both Cozy and Alex listed my entire gaming childhood, from kotor and ME to literally every other game. You guys rock, keep up the amazing content
Here's hoping they come out with a SHIELD bonus. Something like having 2 agents out summons a quinjet to the board.
Naw. I think cards like Mockingbird, Miles Morales, Stature are the bonus they are giving. I doubt they will do the traditional style bonuses like that. But.... Who knows what year three will bring.
Hah Alex that apm discussion was a blast from the past. I also trained and played Starcraft Broodwar in the early 2000s, played it competetively and everyone in Sweden was flexing their APM aswell :) I never had that high APM, averaging 150-170 across a typical game. While the pro koreans had around 400.
For Hope Summers in a Silver Surfer deck, a really simple but effective line of play would be:
> T3: Summer.
> T4: Play something on Summer OR Summer + 1-drop on top of her.
> T5: x2 3-drops (set-up).
> T6: x2 3-drops (finishers).
So you are playing an extra 3-drop compared to the usual T5 Sera, before even accounting for the fact that you can of-course keep playing cards on top of Summers to make an even stronger T5 and T6 playlines.
One last time
Have you heard the legend of 'Corvus the Discarder' and 'Proxima the Discarded'? It's not a tale the Second Dinner would tell you.
Once upon a time, Discard was forgotten. But then came Corvus Glaive. He and his buddy Electro teamed up to discard big bodacious cards. But soon after arrived Proxima Midnight. Once Corvus *discarded* her, he could never stop. Sometimes he would accidentally discard Hela and that would make Proxima angry. But Corvus was always sorry for that. He becomes too high on energy everytime he visits Kama-Taj with Electro. So he would be unable to differentiate between Hela and Proxima since they both have thorn-like helmets and both have *Discardable Features* . But Proxima loves him as much as he loves her. So she forgave his past mistakes. Corvus loves *discarding* Proxima and Proxima loves being discarded by Corvus. This power couple *discarded* all over marvel snap. They discarded on the faces of Thanos meta-slaves, making them cry like toddlers. They even *discarded* on famous snap content creators. They brought new life to the *Discard* genre. They *discarded* so hard that even Morbius said, "It's discardin' time." They became the new and true power couple of marvel. Everyone was in awe of their *discarding* capabilities.
I loved watching the snap production commercial for this season. you are hilarious as always! ty for the content brother
Haven't heard a lot of people talk about these yet but I think these three cards have potential with Pixie
- Miles Morales: Move a card and he's a 1-cost regardless.
- Proxima: When discarded you play her out for free so her having a higher cost doesn't matter.
- Swarm: Swarm getting a higher cost also doesn't matter since you'd ideally discard it and get two 0-cost copies back.
Greedy players might want the flashiness of swapping a Wasp's cost with a Magneto but even swapping a 6-cost with Miles/Proxima is a 2 energy discount which is still massive since discounted cards have historically been great in Snap.
Also, Mockingbird could potentially go into Discard. The 0-cost copies of Swarm didn't start in your deck so if you discard Swarm even a single time and play out both copies Mockingbird is a 3/9. Colleen Wing and Silver Samurai allow you to target discard Swarm from your hand. Silver Samurai potentially even combos well with Stature, so you could set up a turn 6 where you play a 1-cost Stature, a 3-cost Mockingbird and a 2-drop of choice. If you get more than 2 Swarms out that gets even better. Add Moon Girl to the mix for even more discounts on Mockingbird - and to get another copy of Mockingbird/Stature/Proxima. Will it be a good deck? Probably not if you go as greedy as I'm suggesting but I think there's a fun middle ground.
War machine absolutely looks like a card that will be nerfed to the ground 2 weeks after release just like elsa or wearwolf by night or even worse
I would rank the new season Mockingbird > Hope > War Machine > Pixie > Cannonball, but yeah, it's going to be quite a meta shift in March. If Hope is anywhere near as popular as Ms. Marvel, I do wonder how that changes the value of cards like Cosmo or the Guardians in response.
I think Mockingbird will be lower than that. Due to they have to be in play. I think War Machine will be the top card of the month. Being able to play anywhere is just really powerful with locations and current meta. It can also bring goose back where you can shut down someone's lane.
March is off to a great start! Pixie and Hope both feel strong, the meta is once again shaken, btw, BOUNCE IS BAAACK
Question for the mail bag: what would you guys think of a card that had the ability to pull the card that bounced back into your hand back on the board? So when falcon sends the 1 cost cards into your hand that card would grab it and pull it to its location
If you Black Swan (next turn all of your 1 cost cards cost 0), then on the following turn, play Pixie, does it shuffle the zero cost to the cards in your deck? (assuming that you have one cost cards still in your deck)
Mockingbird was such a slept on card and I'm glad she's finally getting talked about.
Sure. She's a boring card. No deck is going to build around Mockingbird. But at 4/9 she's on par with Cull Obsidian that trades 1 Power to be immune to Shang-Chi. At 3/9 she's a stronger and risk-free Gladiator. And she keeps going. Only getting better and better the more a deck exploits her ability. She's hands down, without contest, the best stat/Power stick (so far) in Marvel Snap.
I would be surprised if Mockingbird doesn't get nerfed for that reason. Even at 5/8 or 5/7, the decks that would take her all the way down to 0 by just playing normally (e.g. Thanos/Moongirl/Dino/Agents/Patriot) are going to get her Power for free regardless. It's the decks that can reduce her down to 4-3-2 cost without trying or just by throwing in a Squirrel Girl as their 1-cost and looking to play Mockingbird for sheer value... That might make her problematic at such high Power.
Honestly considering the statline and effect of hope a small buff to electro would be justified. 3/4 power electro would propably not be a problem where every ramp card is either 5 or 4 power
You can play Mockingbird on turn 1 theoretically if you get the rocks all on your side from that 1 location lol
Mobius/rogue is never leaving my deck this whole season
I'm not Gonna lie, if cozy and Alex had a general gaming podcast I'd probably tune in each week
Cozy, War Machines ability fits his character cause ... hes a war machine and lets you assault each lane no limitations
think about it, he turns ur hand into a metaphorical war machine
For surfer i use wakanda as base +psylock +shaw+wong not the highest power lanes but fun af
Btw, Alex didn't see the playline for Surfer and Hope Summers, which is fine (!) he's more of a hands-on tinkerer, but here it is:
Turn 3 Hope Summers
Turn 4 any card on Hope
Turn 5 = 6 Power for 2x3 cost, 1 played on Hope Summers
Turn 6 = 7 Power for 3 cost + Absorbing Man (or even Iron Lad if that's your deck)
You are 50/50 to have Hope on Turn 3 so it's not like you're building the whole deck around her, and unlike Sera she's a 3-cost.
Crystal is sub-sub-optimal but in a Hope + Surfer deck, her value definitely increases. (I still don't want to give my opponents a card, I'm just saying that this is one deck she is not outright terrible in.)
no series 4 card: check
busted SP card: check
cards release that most likely will get nerfed (war machine) : check
seems like SD is playing the hits. can't wait to see patch notes with 0 QoL changes or announced new features
O don't see the "nerf WM" argument what are we freaking out about: an infinaut?, playing in storm/ X?
@@ilovandaele2184 i too cannot understand what these people mean by war machine is busted like if you face a discard player where's the storm or prof x to use wm on hela ain't gonna care for your 4 6 WM
Why are you acting like every season pass card is busted?
Last 3 have been Sebastian Shaw (only played in some surfer decks), Skaar (a solid playable card in some decks but not OP), and Black Swan (barely anyone plays her and she is replaceable in the decks she is in).
We had a run of monsters with Loki, Elsa, and Ms. Marvel but no other recent card has felt like a must buy to stay meta relevant.
When was the last time we actually got a busted season pass card ?
@@hafsaahmed7716 i also picked up a lot of hustle over the infinaut without skipping thing, you spent turn 5 telegraphing your play just to get 20 power... He is good don't get me wrong but more chang-chi/enchantress/wave good good to either counter lockdown or cheese sone niche combo out
so now that the pool of series 4 and 5 is so oversaturated will they finally do series drop or will it still be pay 2 play 😮
Alex!!! I loved Mass Effect series. I do feel after 3 it started shifting. But agreed with Cozy on ME2 being just perfect in terms of everything! Loved hearing this part of the snapchat
War Machine: Nothing can stop you playing cards anywhere?
Except available energy, surely.
The thing with Pixie is that you can no longer predict your opponent's play. That's golden
Hope gives us hope to play her uncle Havok no problem. Even there is Sandman, Sunspot gonna be BIG with those unspent enegy.
It also makes a good duo with his grandpa, Evolved Cyclops
Zabu, Hope summers, warmachine on hope, and either Infanaut on 5 or 2 “4s” or a 4 a 2 and a maw. Warmachine is gonna love hope. Hell you can Infanaut behind a Goose
I don't think enough people are talking about this but you guys kinda touched on it on this episode.
Is it possible to gain and maintain collection complete anymore without being at least a dolphin? I have planned my collection-complete (approximate) date since like November. I bought very carefully, skipped weeks where I knew the card would be back in caches soon. Next week with Man-Thing I finally get there but with the extra release each month this year it's cost me SO MUCH extra in tokens. I have spent 6k a week for almost a month now but have the keys ready for next week though. Might have enough for the following week.
I buy every season pass, have done since late 2022, I buy a few cash bundles too. I now find that I genuinely need to get lucky to maintain collection completion into April. Before these recent changes I should be ready to stay complete for months if not permanently post-March.
I get that they want to make it hard but I think they may have made it impossible without buying an expensive bundle every month.
Love the show guys, watch/listen every week since the first. Keep it up. 😁
Just seen that Drewberry made a video on the subject. Still would love to hear you two chat about it though.
If pixie is a hit, everyone’s gonna run Mobius, which kind of kicks the legs out from under Mockingbird
lol mobius do nothing against pixie
@@Leinbaum it works WITH pixie
Hopes Summers ability reads "After you play a card here....". Does "moving a card" count the same as "playing a card"?
This is probably gonna be the most insane meta shift since Loki got released.
For Surfer and Hope - Hope allows 2 3 drops on turn 5 instead of just Sera, then can drop surfer + abs on turn 6. So much better imo than Sera. Still get 3 3 drops down, and Abs man on top.
In Mass Effect I absolutely agonized over killing the Geth, or saving the Krogan. I put my controller down and paced around my living room for like 5 minutes before deciding. I cured the Krogan…to this day I’m still not sure if I made the right decision. Sorry, I know this is a Snap video, but they brought it up!😂
Is this the revival of kitty pride? I call it, Kitty's Hope. Turn 1 kitty. turn 2 Angela. turn 3 Hope. turn 4 Kitty + 3 cost of your choice. Turn 5 Kitty + Sera. Turn 6 is miracle turn +1 extra energy from hope. unless it's 1 energy per unit played, then you have +2 energy to play with on turn 6 on top of Sera's reduction.
I think a nasty combo with Hope Summers that yall didn't touch on was use wasp same turn to get 5 energy turn 4 and with that there's so many combos. You can pro x, or Nimrod. Just some thoughts.
Can you please do a topic in relation to card acquisition? It feels really bad atm, I feel like if I miss a card, I essentially miss out on an entire deck and also card nerfs not giving you some collectors tokens after spending 6000k of them on a card just for it to get changed, its disheartening
I forgot to check the store the day that killmonger variant came out... will haunt me the rest of my life😂
2 questions
1- which one between hope and war will be nrfd first?
2- will they ever give a serious series drop?
I'm excited to see how Pixie's mechanic actually shakes out in live matches. I think she'll definitely make for some fun and interesting plays however, I've always been skeptical of the mechanics that have the "shuffle" word in their language. The Subterranea location states "shuffle" but everytime I draw into at least 2 rocks back to back right after it showing up.. Korg and Rock Slide state "shuffle" but those back to back rocks are literally always within my next 1-2 draws and never end up near the bottom of my deck. Maybe it's just my luck in Snap lol but I could definitely see me playing Pixie down then immediately drawing the original low cost cards that now cost 6 back to back, and none of the 6 drops that got switched w lower costs😂😂
Hope Summers is a must have, Pixie looks fun even if she might not be great plus I still need MMM and Spider-Ham from that week, and War Machine is going to lead to some crazy shenanigans. Mockingbird looks really solid but I won't have the keys to get her and Cannonball seems alright but very skippable.
Isn't pixie with a Jane Foster is the ammo for an absolute nuke play
You can play two 3's on turn 5 with Hope and those 3s are more power than just a Sera on 5, even without counting Surfer buffs. Then on turn 6 you can play two 3s and a 2 drop.
Cannon Ball is going to be pretty useful to disrupt your opponents winning lanes, he could be used in a junk deck.
Also I love the synergy from you two. Very rare to see so much respect and diligence amongst two guys. You two are great role models for the community. Keep up the great work!
I have played since release. I think, of allllll the things that have made me crazy in this game, the featured location of “the peak” was one of the worst. I totally see pixie as a mini peak bomb, and while I’m excited for cards that flip things on their head, I think this could get really old really fast.
The Hope Summers, War Machine, Infinaut and another 6 cost on turn 6 line is going to be ridiculous.
Man, I don't know what happened in the Avengers vs X-men comic, but War Machine musta come outta nowhere and murdered Professor X. Cuz that's gonna happen in Marvel Snap.
😂😂😂
People won't be playing Warmachine as much as you think. People don't play Legion or Quake or Cosmo or Shadow King. Not enough that Professor X will be unplayable. Give it the month and he'll be with the rest of the tech cards collecting dust.
@@Ryuuk00 Really underselling him if you're only looking at him as a tech card. Hope>WM>Infinaut will be a very strong playline regardless of anything else it ends up doing. Ebony Maw becomes a really good card with him cause now you can just play him whenever you get the chance to, whether playing into his lane, or playing him after WM. Sure, you can use it to counter Prof X, (though, who's even playing him these days?), and storm etc., but he's gonna be used as an aggressive card that can double as tech.
Not gonna say that means he's omg the best card ever, but there's no way he fades into obscurity like those other 4.
@@Azurann strong or not, he's a tech card. Same as Supergiant.
Thank you for shouting out about card acquisition, guys. It's not negative to be a constructive critic. I ❤ the idea of including the pool 4 card.
I'm surprised at the excitement for Pixie when you (Alex) hate MISTER NEGATIVE so much...and he was never even mentioned in the video! She's much cheaper, so that's a big plus. But still, you have to play her then draw those cards. Unlike with Mister Negative, her changes are random, so you might have to draw 3 cards to get 1 good one.
Are you going to build an ENTIRE deck around a card that you won't even have on Turn 2 59% of the time? (Turn 3 is 50/50.)
I don't think she's going to be all that great. FUN and CRAZY...yes, 100% she'll be fun. We'll have to see what happens with Mobius M Mobius drastically reducing the risks.
I do like Cozy's idea of including Maria Hill, etc., just so you can add some playable cards to your hand if need be. But again, that's building a deck around Pixie.
Cosmo is going to see a lot more usage starting this week. :D
I’ve been playing a Shanna/Dazzler kind of a deck for the past week. Making use of that beautiful Artgerm variant for Dazzler and Mockingbird is gonna be so welcomed in that deck.
My ratings:
Hope Summers: Super strong, 4 or 4.5
Pixie: Hard to evaluate but.. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 2.5-3.5 in that range.
Mockingbird: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5.
Cannonball: Realistically he's a 2
War Machine: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5.
Let's see what ends up happening. This season will be craziness.
Edit: In terms of my power level rankings, I'll say: Mockingbird 1 (could be War Machine too), War Machine 2, Hope 3, Pixie 4, Cannonball 5.
Don’t forget Thanos Stones count for mocking bird
I wish I had Beta Ray Bill because a hammer deck + Pixie sounds so fun
I'm free to play, have all series 3, and only missing about 15 Series 4-5. Each month I gain four to five new cards, so I'm even gaining ground on the Series 4-5.
So while I don't get everything while they are brand spankin' new, I still eventually get everything. So don't feel bad for us! It's a fine consolation for spending literally nothing on an awesome game.
Goose could also be a Monster of a Card with War Machine to stop your Opponent to drop some 4/5/6 Costs card with high power on the Goose Location
Forget who mentioned this but just imagine if you will playing a very simple Pixie Destroy deck with only like Zola and Knull as 6 drops and the rest just the usual 1,2,3 cost destroy cards so you just almost guarantee the Knull and Zola become low cost. They can only swap with each other or all low cost cards. And hitting each other is a very low chance.
Yeah but how big would Knull even get when your Carnage, Deadpool or Venom is me up costing 6 and being unplayable
@@peterkefalos7430 Not all of it will be that expensive, only two of the cards homie. Then you can play them late as long as it isn't on a knull lane and destroy more.
So when you guys record, what are you actually looking at when you look off to the sides? Mailbag question??
How you guys feel about the alioth Guardian deck to counter Hope Summers, but add JEAN GREY which counters what Hope does? Guardian and the alioth deck?
Mailbag: Second Dinner seems to have abandoned offering any decent Gold bundle offers. The last few offers have all been overpriced cash buy options only. Do you think the developers are getting too greedy? As a long time player, I no longer feel like players are getting anything close to good value. Please let us know what you think about this.
this is my hot take:
war machine will NOT be anything but as ok tech card
the point everyone seems to be missing is that jeff not costs half of war machine's cost, but was machine itself DON'T have the jeff effect, you will have to play WM, and after that play other cards where you want, its a very taxing curve do use a 4-drop for that effect, and thats why jeff shines so much.. hell, even if WM had jeff effect, he would not be as used as jeff.
other point is that as a tech card, WM is in the lower spectrum of value, you have way more games where other effects are more important than this jeff one, and even then you have jeff itself as the prime "location access" effect, so WM will have not only to compete against jeff (the best card in the game) but against all other tech cards in your deck.
my guess is that he will spawn some niche decks based on positioning of cards like crossbones and cull, and then he will be forgotten and relegated to a mediocre tech, like shadow king is nowadays, which is ok, we need more tech cards
My War Machine dream is Storm/Legion
INRE Pixie, you think Quicksilver and Domino will have a place?
Yondu is going to see a massive increase in play, going to need to take out some of these cards before they can be used!
Does Mockingbird cost 0 if you play 5 infinity stones? The text for Thanos says to shuffle the infinity stones into your deck meaning they don’t start there right?
y is ur part of the podcasts always longer?😂. is it just cuz how both of u edit and cut stuff?
I've always wondered the same thing, lol. I just figured it was down to editing.
It's HIS podcast 😂😂😂
Cozy's half always has the best themes also
He has the topics where there is more to say. Only so much you can say in yet another top ten list week after week. Honestly think they could stay off those for a minute but shoot, I don't have a replacement idea so I'm just gonna sit back down and be quiet.
Re: cannonball - you put it on a lane which is full and boom, highest power card is dead.
Cull Obsidian can be played anywhere after a War Machine too, right?
5:45 Alex i bursted out in laughter so hard, exactly my humor. And how you said it, love you! :DDD
Aye cozy, I also was conflicted when I came across that kill-monger 😂
Surprised you guys didn't bring up Galactus with cannonball
Cozy Alex if you could choose any mutant power to have either an X-mens or your own unique power what would it be?
"Damn, I gotta put PANTS on!" - Alex Coccia, 2024
I think pixie might just be best played in a Beta Ray Bill Lockjaw style deck, since those usually shuffle a lot of 0 costs into the deck
Which do not swap with pixie
@@DudE-xh7no the might, which gets you Big power cheap cards, and if they dont, you just put whatever is a 0 into lockjaw
Thanks Cozy for keeping Jean Grey in mind. My girl needs more compatible synergies
Hopefully the rapidly expanding pool of cards help keep things from feeling stale
You could use the new season pass card to force out Sera on turn four. You would need a 0 drop, but it could work
Wolverine -> Hope -> Jean grey -> nimrod then galactus in another lane?
Or hope summers and havok combo?
Ravonna, Hope in a lane by herself, Green Goblin in that lane on 4, on turn five play Hobgoblin in that lane a cloack on another. Turn 6 move hope to closcks lane and galactus on the lane hope was in. Might be fun to pull off.
So what happens when they just move the goblins elsewhere??
You're gonna need an alt play but Ironfist into Shuri, into Galactus has always been fun.
@@chrissalih4382 I guess you lose heck idk. What does it matter?
March looks awesome but I think Im just going to try and pull for Pixie then save for the White Widow week to grab her and that Momoko Nico Minoru.
Also Hope Summers into a High Evo surfer deck with Jean and Cyclops just sounds fun.