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I can say I did finally complete the awesome JSW after many, many, many, many hours trying it when I should have been doing my school homework. Printed out the entire mansion from Crash Magazine and planned all my routes out. If they re released it now as an upgrade I guarantee it would be a hit again with the younger and older generations. Loved this an classics like Trashman.
The old Spiderman game on the playstation 1 and Dreamcast used poison gas as an excuse for why you could not see anything in the city so is that not the exact same thing as the fog in Superman 64?
@@chickenwings6172 That is technically true. However, _everyone_ (including Wikipedia) calls it "Superman 64", instead of "Superman: The New Superman Adventures". This is so that people know that you are not talking about the fucking game called "Superman: The Man of Steel", or the fucking game called "The Death and Return of Superman", or the fucking game called "Superman: The Shadow of Apokolips", or the fucking game called "Superman: The Greatest Superhero", or the _five_ fucking games that were just called "Superman"... well, you get my point. Some of those games were actually _good,_ unlike The New Superman Adventures.
I feel like the version he had was a higher quality prototype and probably wasn't given the commercial board (the one he holds looks different). If i recall Tony said the board was his idea. In retrospect i think this could have gome somewhere if it was maybe worked on as a side project. Now i feel like someone could pull off a decent VR skating game. Probably not anytime soon.
either he was paid well, or he didn't notice the flaws because he is an expert. Think about it this way, $60 for a board that lets you play in-game? not a bad deal for someone who pays hundreds if not thousands for them normally, combined with the fact he would have had the skills to pull off the tricks normally (and thus translate them into the game, compared to the vast majority of players) and you can kind of see how something most people wouldn't touch turns into a fun toy for an hour or two
I figured he was just someone who'd rather be actually skateboarding and not much of a gamer so from his viewpoint, the board made sense because it gets you closer to feeling like you're actually doing it.
Funny thing about the developers' canon excuses for Superman 64's glitches - Ubisoft did the exact same thing with Assassin's Creed, saying that its visual quirks were due to bugs in the Animus.
@@missspark4652 the thing with silent hill was that they USED the fog for atmosphere, they turned a negative into a positive. They didnt make it an excuse and neither was silent hill a failiure
@@basitsnake Yeah, it was used so well there that the fog remained a staple of the franchise even after they no longer needed it for technical reasons.
Also, I'm not sure if this is actually true. But I had heard that the team got their idea for the Town, from an actual ghost town, where it's stuck in a perpetual fog, due to coal(I think it's coal), burning underground.
I spent hours at night (before catching a few hours kip and going to work next day) on Jet Set Willy. Me and a friend at the time were trying out different things and pooling our knowledge. When we first encountered that bug, we immediately thought it actually was part of the design, and I said I'd go about mapping a proper route by trial and error. I did it, and I still have that map. So while it weas very much a bug, it wasn't a bug that was preventing you doing the game. It CAN be done with no patch, as it's the way we did it in the end, and the way I still do it to this day. The route is simple - you go throught the mansion and generally make your way slightly down and rightwards all the way out to the boat and beach, then return and go under the house (avoiding Hades) then proceed all the way along to the far left of the house, get everything there, then come back through the front entrance of the house and bo up the tree. Get to the top (and iirc, go one screen left) then go back all the way down, through the house leftwards, then up and along the top through the Quirkafleeg bit, back down the tree again, then back up to his bedroom. Finish. There was ANOTHER game breaking bug though that did prevent the competition being done normally - two particular beer glasses in one of the room up the left top side of teh house couldn't be collected as one small platform was missing. Two pokes were printed to alleviate this, and we successfully managed to complete it ... just over a week after the competition had been claimed. Bugger.
@@AJthePup he definitely has punched normal people, though. He might've been holding back 99.99% of his power when he did, but no he has absolutely bitch slapped a few dudes through walls lol.
The weird thing about Superman 64, is when I was a little kid, I just literally could not imagine that it was even possible for a company could release a bad game. For some reason I just thought it wasn't allowed, so when I couldn't beat the first level, I just thought I wasn't good at the game.
"Imagine if all developers explained their visual limitations in the story line" I love how the same exact year Superman 64 came out, Silent Hill came out and managed to get away with the exact same thing. Tho obviously it helps that Silent Hill didn't suck.
Silent Hill used its limitations to be spooky. They listened to the wise old monk in the monastery about turning your weakness into strength. Superman 64... did not.
It's like South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone explaining their reasons for disliking cutaway gags in Family Guy. Family Guy is just telling a joke that has nothing to do with what's going on in the plot, while South Park incorporates their jokes into the story itself. Silent Hill used the limitations to their advantage to help tell their atmospheric story with intent, Superman had to make a reason why there was fog to begin with.
Silent Hill didn't have Warner Brothers actively trying their damndest to kneecap the game like they did with Superman 64, which is a fact many people ignore because it doesn't fit the "Superman 64 Bad because Titus Bad" narrative.
@ICrowbarYourFace I was interested when it was f2p then it had a price but nothing really add and still seem to have micro transactions. If the game was good maybe he should have never announced it was or could be f2p and just put a price to begin with.
@ICrowbarYourFace I think he must be ashamed of the marketing, the whole "overwatch & counter strike killer" and the "real competitive shooter" shit. It was really annoying. A shame really, the game was good
@ICrowbarYourFace If he hadn't ever opened his mouth, shit on PC players, shit on console players, been a cock online etc. It might have done better. Add to the fact that the game competed with Overwatch (already established) and Paladins (established even earlier and free) and his game stood NO chance at all. He quite literally was the one at fault. He just can't actually own up to that fact. So he had to make up some BS about wokeness... when nobody had that concern at all.
Other poor excuses for a game's failure: -Aliens: Colonial Marines - Randy Pitchford said it's because of the critics lying or being too harsh. -Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) - EA said they put the loot boxes because they wanted players to have a sense of pride and accomplishment.
Battlefield V - Those sexist white male gamers are at it again, this time saying cybionic women didn't fight with a katana on the British front lines of WWII while wearing Scottish warpaint. Why can't they just let a WWII game that's in a series that's known for trying to be historically authentic have this verifiably historically inaccurate be included so my little girl can play someone that looks like her in this game that's supposed to be authentic? Before any accusations are thrown my way, there were women that did fight in WWII. Just not on the British front lines. Or the American front lines. Or the French front lines. Or the German front lines. Or the Italian front lines. Basically, any nation involved didn't have women fight in their front lines. The closest would be the Soviets with their 1000 snipers. Their stories deserve to be told just as much as the people who fought on the front lines, yet they've been neglected by all kinds of media. There were women that helped with the French Resistance. During the Battle of Britain, the defenders were women because most of the men weren't there. There is a way to include women in a WWII game while neither breaking authenticity nor making it an alternate history.
@@Demonic_Culture_Nut Battlefield V had less than expected sales because it was released during a time a new massively popular genre would take over the playerbase and was another entry in an already tiring series of samey games, among other reasons that many other games lose sales. Virtually nobody ever talked about the inclusion of women except for reactionaries who want to blame the game's apparent failure on the fact while also trying to not look like sexist dipshits. Also, nobody ever gives a shit about realism. If you did, you wouldn't be playing Battlefield. It's never been authentic.
I didnt even notice that being a problem in Superman 64. I was more focused in the gameplay and glitches. And just assumed the fog was typical 90s stuff
@@SGTSAM101ST Wow, I did not know that. Tho I feel like the reason why people didn’t care was because the fog fit the atmosphere and actually made sense so it felt believable. They also used it to their advantage to make more detailed textures without lagging the game thanks to the short render distance. When SH2 HD got rid of the fog, it lost it bit of the atmosphere hence why people call it inferior to the og.
Two men are sitting drinking at a bar at the top of the Empire State Building, when the first man turns to the other and says "You know, last week I discovered that if you jump from the top of this building, the winds around the building are so intense that by the time you fall to the 10th floor, they carry you around the building and back into a window". The bartender just shakes his head in disapproval while wiping the bar. The second guy says, "What, are you nuts? There's no way that could happen. "No, its true," the first man says. "Let me prove it to you." He gets up from the bar, jumps over the balcony, and plummets toward the street below. As he nears the 10th floor, the high winds whip him around the building and back into the 10th floor window and he takes the elevator back up to the bar. He meets the second man, who looks quite astonished. "You know, I saw that with my own eyes, but that must have been a one time fluke." "No, I'll prove it again," says the first man as he jumps again. Just as he is hurtling toward the street, the 10th floor wind gently carries him around the building and into the window. Once upstairs he urges his fellow drinker to try it. "Well, why not." the second guy says, "It works. I'll try it." He jumps over the balcony, plunges downward passes the 11th, 10th 9th, 8th, floors. . . . . and hits the sidewalk with a SPLAT. Back upstairs the bartender turns to the other drinker and says, "You know Superman, you're a real jerk when you're drunk". -------------- Edit: So many likes! TBH, this version of the joke is much better than the one I first heard. Shorter and less complicated. I had to post it - it was perfect. :D
As someone who's read a lot of Superman comics, if Superman were flying through airborne Kryptonite thick enough to obscure vision, then he would not only have his powers wrecked, but he wouldn't be able to breathe and he would probably die of radiation poisoning in about thirty seconds.
Yeah, the Kryptonite fog doesn't do shit in the game, so why did Titus make a excuse like that?! If your game ran bad that you needed to lower the draw distance of it, don't explain to the people that it's because the fog is Kryptonite Fog that can kill Superman, because the fog means the game had it's distance lowered!!
I feel like Lawbreakers was by no means a BAD game: in fact it had a lot going for it. It's main problem was that it came out at the wrong time as Overwatch and battle royale games ate its lunch, much like how a lot of shooters in the late 90s got overshadowed by the mad success of Half-Life 1. That, and the trend of free-to-play online multiplayer made it hard to make the argument of a pay-up-front multiplayer-only game in such an environment. If it was free-to-play to start with, but you could unlock a massive amount of cosmetic options for a flat price, I reckon that would have given it more legs.
Well that and Cliffy decided to follow it up with Radical Heights. A game literally unfinished, to the point where you had bots disguised as players in the game. Where it was possible to drop into areas that hadn't been textured yet. Where it was possible to clip through the floor of the map and be perfectly fine. Suffice to say, it was not a good followup.
@@TheAdmantArchvile bots disguised as players is common in battle royal games, though that doesn't take away from your point. Radical hights was hardly even a tech demo when they released it as 'early access'
It was a combination of market competition, overconfidence that people would want to pay for a multiplayer game, and overestimating people tolerating learning new mechanics they have never experienced before.
@Golden Robodude Here's the thing with creative mechanics: You have to teach people how to use them. From what I heard, as I never had any interest in playing a game like Lawbreakers, the tutorial was awful and failed to explain how different it was. Things like the gravity mechanic and why you would shoot backwards. And as for your Fornite example, you forget that the primary gameplay loop wasn't building, it was the BR shooting mechanic. People already were familiar with what that was from the get-go and the building was something they were at least willing to try as the other option was PUBG. And as for the sale price, I'm kinda back and forth as there are multiplayer games that charge an upfront fee that still sell: Call of Duty, Battlefield, Overwatch, Among Us. Its kinda back and forth.
Wasn't there some bug in Sonic 3 that caused you to get permanently stuck, with the manual suggesting that these are "traps set by Robotnik that can only be escaped by resetting the console" or some such?
I was looking for a comment to mention this while reading about the Superman 64 manual excuse. Of course, docking it with Sonic and Knuckles patches out the glitches.
@@Linklex7 yeah I believe you're right, you could break the collision detection and get trapped. I believe speedrunners exploit the engine in this way in some instances, because the same glitch that can trap him can throw the character vast distances in a second.
I was a Beta tester for Lawbreakers. It would have succeeded if they actually made any of the changes that the Quake players they desperately marketed towards asked for.
I have a friend who worked on the Wii port of Tony Hawk: Ride. He hated the Ride controller with a burning passion, especially since even debugging features like a free camera had to be used with the Ride controller
Ummm I do not remember ever hearing anything about Lawbreaker being "woke"... I do remember seeing the game and telling to myself "Oh great, another multiplayer fps, pass..."
@@n0m4nic I would say he was dormant longer before his crazy showed. He was involved with game development in the early 90s after all as was Romero but nobody ever remembers Jazz Jackrabbit...
A ex cowoeker was back than on a event where he could play THPS Ride. He done a actual Trick with the board Controller just because he was said that "its like a real Skateboard". The board broke in Half. And everyone was pissed at him. A few NEW copys are sold now for 10 bucks (including the board) at my favorite shop.
One of my absolute favorites was when Bioware's executive producer, Mark Darrah, attempted to shift blame of Mass Effect Andromeda's poor sales and lower-than average review scores on...Breath of the Wild. Yes, that's right! A game in a completely different genre not released on any of the consoles Andromeda was on is clearly to blame for the game's lackluster performance, and not the game itself!
No, that makes sense, because literally no one ever buys two or more different consoles. Ever. You either buy a PlayStation, Xbox, or a Nintendo product. Never more than one of them. That doesn't happen, at all. Nope. No one does that, ever. Therefore, if they buy Breath of the Wild, it means they'll NEVER buy Mass Effect Andromeda! It's so obvious!
Lawbreakers was actually set to do rather well until ol' Cliffy put his foot in it and decided to be open vitriolic towards gamers. Which pretty much spelled doom for the fucking game XD The game was supposed to be free. Then 29.99. Then he shit-talked the Xbox crowd despite already being hated by PC gamers. I mean it's pretty ballsy to try to compete with Overwatch that was already established and had players, and Paladins which is an arguably much superior game to either at the low, low price of Free!
I'm surprised how many media producers have the attitude of "we don't want you as our audience", only to be shocked when they realize no one's buying into their product. PROTIP: never insult your customer base, potential or otherwise. Unless you hate earning more money from customers.
Yeah, his excuse wasn't exactly wrong per se, but mostly because he was trying to accomplish a herculean task and he was shooting himself repeatedly in the foot at the same time.
@@NotAGoodUsername360 he recognized his flaw in that regard, so I can appreciate that at least. He recognized the way he acted played a large part in ruining his game
Just comparing it to Overwatch was a bad move. It played like an arena shooter, with complex movement (rocket jumps, bunny hopping, different ways to carry momentum) and its two main modes were capture the flag style. Comparisons were bound to happen no matter what, but instead of distancing from it, Cliffy...ahem sorry "DudeHuge" , just dug his heels, and took shots at Overwatch.
Cliffy B just entered my shit list for blaming being 'woke' for the game's failure instead of insulting gamers with nothing that has anything to do with being 'woke'. People are getting killed in the streets by racists and that's how he tries to excuse his failures?
It's weird. If I'm honest, I thought the game got so little attention that nobody got to go "REEEE SJW AGENDA IN MY VIDDY GAME REEEE TWO GENDERS REEEEEEEEE" over it. It's not like Overwatch hasn't had its share of people who go "pshhh it's an sjw game raggleraggle", but I never saw anything like that for Lawbreakers.
Cliffy _"None of that 60 dollar multiplayer-only bullshit"_ B. blessing us once again with his inane predictions and opinions that only serve to blow up in his face after.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN As Larry alludes to, Overwatch has a “diverse” cast and is a smashing success. Diversity in itself is not what anyone has an issue with. You assume any opposition to the woke agenda must be bigotry, but you’re fighting phantoms, friend.
I remember LawBreakers. Bought the game on release day. Had fun with it for a few weeks but gave up on it shortly after. Cliffy B being Cliffy B surely didn't help this game's lifespan.
@@arnox4554 It didn't have it on release, but it did get team deathmatch later in it's life cycle, basically as a last ditch effort to bring back old players. People were asking for it during free weekends and open beta, and the response was always "It wouldn't be balanced". Game didn't really have the time or playerbase to really prove if that statement was true or not.
I know more than a couple actual skaters that love the board controller. I think the real issue with it was it was an enthusiast product, built for enthusiasts, marketed to the masses. None of the reviewers were skaters themselves, so they didn't have the muscle memory real skaters have. You just can't release a game for whatever percent of real pro skaters are out there that will buy it and be able to make it perform. That's just not a viable product. You see this sort of thing happen a lot. The reason things like guitar hero worked was that 1) it isn't actually a guitar, it is way easier to learn than that and 2) there are a LOT of real guitar players out there with transferable skillsets. This is why Tony likes the controller. It was built for people like him. All tens of them.
Realistically, they should have had a team working on the board controller, and another working on basic gamepad controls. That way, they could sell two versions of the game - casual with the game alone, and pro with the included board controller. I get the idea of giving players a more authentic skateboarding experience, but as a tubby middle-aged guy with inner ear damage, hell no I'm not going to balance on a piece of plastic on a carpet in front of my television, game console, and a bunch of very solid and angled furniture.
Apparently "It Just Works" actually comes from Todd Howard playing Fallout:76 while being interviewed and as he we placing things around his base camp or something (I believe it involved connecting things through power lines) he said "and it just works". Then the meme took off on its own.
Yeah, forced periferals are a detriment to every game or console, that's the reason why the Wii U failed, had Nintendo release the console with the pro controller, it could have been sold cheaper and saved it to the end of the generation. I don't think the problem was bad marketing, unless really people are that stupid to think that it was a periferal, it was that it looked unnecesarily complicated, required two power bricks (one for the console and other for the controller) and that many gamers were alienated by what the Wii ended up being.
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Larry, can you please cover the disaster that was the Roll 20 clusterfuck? It's an online table top platform that a LOT of people use to play D&D whose co-founder had such an epic PR disaster that after someone on r/dnd called him out on his bullshit (he banned them because they had a vaguely similar name to someone else that he banned because they both DARED to criticize Roll 20) he responded.....that response got to be one of reddit's top 100 most downvoted posts of all time in less than day, and got memed shitless. This even got into the news a few times as well as prior news articles being linked exposing the co-founder as even a larger asshole than previously established. If you are curious, I did document the first 24 or so hours of this clusterfuckastrophe pretty thoroughly including screen caps and numerous deleted posts that I saved copies of.
Hey Larry. You may want to fix the time codes for your episode. 5:23 - Jet Set Willy 9:09 - Lawbreakers 13:00 - Tony Hawk: Ride & Shred Hope this helps.
@Black Chandelier Mirage in all fairness, Kojima is good at what he does, just not as much as his fans think he is. Or he thought he was before Death Stranding. Sure, he was behind Snatcher, Metal Gear up to 5 and others, but he also had a ton of blunders even in MGS itself. And well... he was behind the one Castlevania game/series we don't speak of.
Ugh Tony Hawk Ride. I remember how I was actually sent a copy of it to "review" where I gave it one of my most scathing reviews ever. The even sadder part was I was able to sell the game online afterwards, and nearly got the full asking price for it! I really want to know who was sadistic enough to want to pay full price for a USED copy of that game, let alone brand new!
The answer: dumb people or those who have to know. As an example of the latter, I remember a streamer I watch who got a copy of Contra: Rouge Corps and played it because he had to know, because he was a hardcore Contra fan. On top of that he enjoyed playing bad games as he would riff on them MST3000-style. Long story short, I have never heard a man sound so sad in my life.
doesnt that make you a even more shitty person you got a review copy tried to make money of your review and wanted to make even more money selling it after when you could of easily gave it away
I mean, I agree with Tony that the board was ahead of its time but only in terms of it's concept. It is genuinely a pretty neat idea, but I don't think there will ever be a good physical version of the idea ever.
@@mistertagomago7974 i can confirm that, i played on an arcade machine with a board it worked almost perfectly. Thats why at first it was really weird for me to hear that the home versión sucked
Tony Hawk's board would have been great for virtual reality. If they had waited maybe about 5 years, maybe 10, then they might have something. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some VR Dev manages to hack a board to work in VR especially given how cheap they can be now. That said, the board by itself outside of virtual reality is clearly worthless.
@@nickfifteen that sounds like a great idea on paper... But the motion sickness people would feel with a game moving that fast and with all the tricks would be an issue.
Cliffy B: The game failed because it was woke. Also Cliffy B: Conveniently ignores the fact that his game was already showing signs of dying, even before people made that discovery.
The Ps1 Spiderman game had a story reason for why he couldn't go down to streets, and it actually worked quite well even though basically being rather similar to superman's excuse.
@@toumabyakuya3498 iirc the manual mentioned that Peter's _crippling_ homophobia would cause him to pass out at the sight of the city's ongoing Pride Parades on street level.
*Cliff Blazinski goes over his notes after watching this episode and realizes that the whole time, he had been reading the negative reviews about The Last Of Us II the whole time and indeed, LawBreakers didn't have any reviews to read at all, negative or otherwise.*
BTW, for those who want some laughter, check out Tony hawk's twitter. the skateboarder, not the british guy. his experience with people only Semi-recognizing him is HILARIOUS.
There's a British Tony Hawk? I've learned something. Though to be fair, when I saw him in an advert on TV at like 8, I thought Skater TH was British. Because it was on British TV XD
@overclockeador Completely fair. I guess the games named after him aren't sold there? I was helped in learning he was American when he made a one-episode cameo in the CG cartoon Max Steel, the original version of the show. I've only just remembered that.
For years now I've been getting such comfort from this series, your intro is so welcoming, Larry. Absolutely one of my favourite web series. Keep on king.
I've seen those Tony Hawk Ride boards a few times at my local GoodWill for the Wii, and thought about picking one up since they were so cheap, but then thought to myself, na I highly value my dignity, and quickly passed.
You also have to remember the plot of Superman 64 is that Lex has trapped Superman in a Virtual Reality version of Metropolis. That's why there is kryptonite fog, and very few, if any, civilians in the world.
Tony Hawk should have teamed up with Tech Deck to make a smaller motion sensitive skateboard controller you still use with your hands. At least, that might have sold better since the vast majority of people don't know how to actually skate.
4:30 Thank goodness it never happened again. ISn't that right, fog in malf of the Silent Hill games? Isn't that right, "cinematic" 30fps framerate in absolute majority of peasant games in the last 2 generations? Isn't that right, forced "depth of field" that makes image more realistic by blurring everything past 10m ahead of you, so console can just render a rectangle instead of a complex model? Thank goodness all this hackery stayed contained in the Superman 64 and didn't infect the entirety of console market for the next 2 decades and counting...
You laugh at "Kryptonite Fog", but that excuse has been used successfully. In Silent Hill, the reason that the town is all foggy was due to draw distance limitations.
@@rho-starmkl4483 some people were saying that the remastered version doesn't catch the same vibes as the original for this very reason. Makes sense for it.
Some ten years before the first licensed copy of a game was sold in our parts, there was a pirate localisation of fallout, which had no sound. The disc came with a note by the pirates on the lines of "well, there used to be sound, but after we decoded it, replaced the voice lines and encoded it again it turned to be too much to fit on a disk, so we had to cut it out altogether".
I wouldn't think that, but this was around the time Warner Bros were making bad decisions on a regular basis (AOL merger anyone?). So it's not far off that they would hinder a project for no good reason.
The sad thing is, Lawbreakers was actually a pretty good time. Just came out too late, with the market already owned purely by a couple highly popular games.
You could argue that we do have modern equivalents of 'kryptonite fog', for instance; The Animus in the AC series that can sometimes be used as an excuse for the buggy nature of Ubisoft's otherwise engaging franchise. There is even a trophy in AC Valhalla titled 'it's not a bug, it's a feature' that you get for completing all the 'Animus glitch' side quests. All very meta.
Don't forget the C64 version of Shadowfire. It had a bug that you occasionally took damage for no reason. The manual described this as an "additional challenge" caused by "General Zorf's Invisible Dog".
i used to work at a thrift store and there was two games we would see new in box all the time: tony hawks ride, and DJ hero. those two basically killed the peripherals market.
Yeah they milked the ever loving hell out of the "music rhythm game" genre. All was good up until about Rock Band 2 came out. Then the competing companies clearly were still money hungry but out of ideas. That's when they released crap like Guitar Hero Aerosmith/Green Day/Why is this happening? Also Beatles Rock Band. As much as I love the Beatles, it just became oversaturated wayyy too quickly. By the time DJ Hero came out, everyone was already over the fad. I didn't know a single person who owned it, and honestly, that genre had run it's course. There was a sharp decline of quality in favor of quantity, and I'm kind of glad it died out.
I wonder if Tony Hawk actually liked the game, and could pull off some sick gameplay (assuming he ever actually sat down to play it) Maybe he really is clueless as to why the game failed
I feel like Tony Hawk's attitude towards it was half paid, but half legitimate. I really think he believed in the product but at the same time, was contractually obligated to keep a good face on in public despite whatever misgivings he had during its development. Like I'm sure he clashed with the devs and overall disagreed with how it should have been done, but otherwise ultimately still believed in the project. Maybe he recognized that he wasn't a developer so he trusted the actual devs on how it should be done, even though in his heart he knew something wasn't right. At least that's what it looks like to me, if that makes sense.
I'm still very sad that lawbreakers was released with such bad timing going head-to-head with Overwatch, Realm Royale, PUBG, Warframe, Battleborn, The Culling, Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex (another awesome game that got canned), and a bunch of others. Too many looter shooters released in a 2yr time frame, with many being f2p, some games just don't get the attention they deserve due to oversaturation of the market. I had an alpha key to Lawbreakers and I loved it, insanely fast gameplay, very good programming & graphics, was just difficult finding games with so few concurrent players and not being able to have bots in it.
The kryptonite fog reminds me of the smoke that covered the streets in Spider-Man on the PS1. Can't see all the people because of the smog, and it's totally not because rendering an entire city won't be viable for another couple of decades. Still, it wasn't like anyone expected them to pull off something that crazy. Being able to see six feet in front of you, however...yeah. I can see why Superman's excuse didn't land.
True, but at least in spiderman on the PS1 they actually made it part of the story and including it in the cutscenes, they recognised the limitations and overcame it, no different to silent Hill 2 being foggy because of the ash. But to put it as text only in the manual implies it was an after-thought
God that Superman game pissed me off, it came out when I was 16. I walked down to the local rental shop brought it home played for 15 mins and took it back...I was so disappointed...
I used to have a small store where I sold anything from antiques to video games, and every time someone wanted to purchase a copy of Superman 64, I'd always downsell it - I would highly recommend NOT purchasing it, I'd exclaim that it was literally the worst game on the console, but people still bought it... Some folks must've thought I was a complete nut, and absolute shit salesman... lol... I just couldn't live with myself selling a copy of Superman 64 without highlighting the disclaimer...
Kinda funny that earlier on, WB and DC were very restrictive of their properties, but today, they let their games be anything the devs want/need. Mostly.
Cliffy B lost all coherency a while ago. Along with these statements, he seemed to confuse the Pendulum Wars and the war against the Locust Horde, two fictional conflicts he helped create himself!
Hell, even I know the difference between the two, and my investment into the series is rather subdued. I played the first one, but never really got to grips with it. I read a few of the comics though, because they were a fun ride. The Pendulum Wars were basically the in-universe Cold War-gone-hot, between the two Superpowers of COG and the UIR, and ended just a short time before Gears of War 1. It was a mostly conventional war, so no chainsaw bayonets yet, though some Maori-inspired island tribes, the ones Tai Kaliso came from, apparently fought with shields, swords and spears against the Machine Guns and Tanks of the UIR. Most of the playable Characters in the main Trilogy participated in the conflict in one way or another. The Locust War meanwhile is the Human vs "Aliens" conflict the series is centered around, and needs no explanation.
The swinging in LawBreakers actually looked pretty cool. Don’t play battle royale games, but it looks like it would’ve been dope to swing round buildings like Spider-Man.
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I participated in the LawBreakers beta, it was a good game. It had fun game play, the mechanics were great, the characters were as interesting as any in Overwatch, but there was just no one playing it. I think they failed to advertise the beta and the game was just not noticed.
I mean, they weren't WRONG, I guess. SM64 showed the world that 3D platforming can be done well, and was released a whole 4 months before! If I had to play one or the other, I'd pick the one where I get cake at the end.
For me personally Lawbreakers being another online-only shooter and costing money upfront was enough to keep me away. The bathroom thing made me laugh, but if I skipped every piece of media that didn't align with me politically 100 percent I would never play any games or watch movies.
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I can say I did finally complete the awesome JSW after many, many, many, many hours trying it when I should have been doing my school homework. Printed out the entire mansion from Crash Magazine and planned all my routes out. If they re released it now as an upgrade I guarantee it would be a hit again with the younger and older generations. Loved this an classics like Trashman.
The old Spiderman game on the playstation 1 and Dreamcast used poison gas as an excuse for why you could not see anything in the city so is that not the exact same thing as the fog in Superman 64?
the fucking game is not called Superman 64
there is no 64 in the title on the box or in the manual or in the game itself.
There is no superman 64 dumb ass. there is no 64 on the cart the manual or in the game itself.
@@chickenwings6172 That is technically true. However, _everyone_ (including Wikipedia) calls it "Superman 64", instead of "Superman: The New Superman Adventures". This is so that people know that you are not talking about the fucking game called "Superman: The Man of Steel", or the fucking game called "The Death and Return of Superman", or the fucking game called "Superman: The Shadow of Apokolips", or the fucking game called "Superman: The Greatest Superhero", or the _five_ fucking games that were just called "Superman"... well, you get my point. Some of those games were actually _good,_ unlike The New Superman Adventures.
"Is my game so broken that it failed?"
"No, it's the gamers that are wrong."
As part of the OG Unreal Tournament crowd, this game pisses me the fuck off.
Great use of that quote 👏
No mans sky was atrocious
@@badvoodoo2097 Well I agree, but Fallout 76 takes the cake for failure.
Oh wow where did you get a direct quote from nintendo?
He's literally Tony Hawk. He, of all people, should know when a board is unsatisfying to use.
I feel like the version he had was a higher quality prototype and probably wasn't given the commercial board (the one he holds looks different).
If i recall Tony said the board was his idea. In retrospect i think this could have gome somewhere if it was maybe worked on as a side project.
Now i feel like someone could pull off a decent VR skating game. Probably not anytime soon.
either he was paid well, or he didn't notice the flaws because he is an expert. Think about it this way, $60 for a board that lets you play in-game? not a bad deal for someone who pays hundreds if not thousands for them normally, combined with the fact he would have had the skills to pull off the tricks normally (and thus translate them into the game, compared to the vast majority of players) and you can kind of see how something most people wouldn't touch turns into a fun toy for an hour or two
I figured he was just someone who'd rather be actually skateboarding and not much of a gamer so from his viewpoint, the board made sense because it gets you closer to feeling like you're actually doing it.
Yeah but to him it probably worked fine, most people can't do a simple Ollie
Its easier to balance on a moving skateboard than it is a stationary one.
Funny thing about the developers' canon excuses for Superman 64's glitches - Ubisoft did the exact same thing with Assassin's Creed, saying that its visual quirks were due to bugs in the Animus.
i remember hearing that SEGA did the same with Sonic 3 & Knuckles too, (bugs are eggman´s traps) although, that game was *actually good*
@@missspark4652 the thing with silent hill was that they USED the fog for atmosphere, they turned a negative into a positive. They didnt make it an excuse and neither was silent hill a failiure
@@basitsnake Yeah, it was used so well there that the fog remained a staple of the franchise even after they no longer needed it for technical reasons.
Also, I'm not sure if this is actually true. But I had heard that the team got their idea for the Town, from an actual ghost town, where it's stuck in a perpetual fog, due to coal(I think it's coal), burning underground.
There were even achievements for finding bugs in Assassin's Creed 1 if I remember.
I spent hours at night (before catching a few hours kip and going to work next day) on Jet Set Willy. Me and a friend at the time were trying out different things and pooling our knowledge. When we first encountered that bug, we immediately thought it actually was part of the design, and I said I'd go about mapping a proper route by trial and error. I did it, and I still have that map.
So while it weas very much a bug, it wasn't a bug that was preventing you doing the game. It CAN be done with no patch, as it's the way we did it in the end, and the way I still do it to this day. The route is simple - you go throught the mansion and generally make your way slightly down and rightwards all the way out to the boat and beach, then return and go under the house (avoiding Hades) then proceed all the way along to the far left of the house, get everything there, then come back through the front entrance of the house and bo up the tree. Get to the top (and iirc, go one screen left) then go back all the way down, through the house leftwards, then up and along the top through the Quirkafleeg bit, back down the tree again, then back up to his bedroom. Finish.
There was ANOTHER game breaking bug though that did prevent the competition being done normally - two particular beer glasses in one of the room up the left top side of teh house couldn't be collected as one small platform was missing. Two pokes were printed to alleviate this, and we successfully managed to complete it ... just over a week after the competition had been claimed.
Bugger.
1 extra like for using teh.
@@Pickchore Ah, I'm disabled and my typing absolutely sucks (plus I'm lazy).
@@crunchyfrog555 - Teh is a word used in l33t speak.
@@Pickchore i know that. I was just explaining that it wasnt deliberate because im disabled and lazy. It was atypo.
@@crunchyfrog555 so was that one at the end 😋😁
"Superman doesn't punch people"
I-
WHAT
Superman doesn't punch *normal* people. Because if he does, he'll kill them.
@@toddnolastname4485 he rarely fights normal people tho. Aliens and other superpowered beings. doesn't excuse only vr robots to punch.
He grabs normal people, he punches aliens. Unlike batman, his fists are not equal.
That's what I thought as well.
@@AJthePup he definitely has punched normal people, though. He might've been holding back 99.99% of his power when he did, but no he has absolutely bitch slapped a few dudes through walls lol.
The weird thing about Superman 64, is when I was a little kid, I just literally could not imagine that it was even possible for a company could release a bad game. For some reason I just thought it wasn't allowed, so when I couldn't beat the first level, I just thought I wasn't good at the game.
Same for me and Frogger PS1. I got older and realized that game is definitely broken in difficulty.
You never grew up with ZX Spectrum then. Ha, ha!
Aww Haha that's sad. Funny too though hahahaha. I used to think the same thing about movies when I was a kid
@@rogue1348 To be honest if I disliked a game back then I dislike it now. My opinions do not change because I'm older.
@@rogue1348 Super Godzilla for SNES. I was a masochistic child, but the boss fights looked really cool.
It's official. More people will have watched this video, than they have played Lawbreakers.
To be fair, Guru Larry isn't proselytizing the existence of same-sex bathrooms in the video as a reason why we should be watching it.
@@nickfifteen LEL
What are you trying to say? I dont understand
Lawbreakers was in fact a great game
they should've called it BallBreakers and incorporated some sort of ball mechanic into it, it would've survived on the memes alone.
"Imagine if all developers explained their visual limitations in the story line"
I love how the same exact year Superman 64 came out, Silent Hill came out and managed to get away with the exact same thing. Tho obviously it helps that Silent Hill didn't suck.
Silent Hill used its limitations to be spooky. They listened to the wise old monk in the monastery about turning your weakness into strength.
Superman 64... did not.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 Yes, as I said, it helps that Silent Hill didn't suck :P I love it when games can use limitations to their advantages
It's like South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone explaining their reasons for disliking cutaway gags in Family Guy. Family Guy is just telling a joke that has nothing to do with what's going on in the plot, while South Park incorporates their jokes into the story itself.
Silent Hill used the limitations to their advantage to help tell their atmospheric story with intent, Superman had to make a reason why there was fog to begin with.
Silent Hill didn't have Warner Brothers actively trying their damndest to kneecap the game like they did with Superman 64, which is a fact many people ignore because it doesn't fit the "Superman 64 Bad because Titus Bad" narrative.
@@emPatheticShow too bad their joke is stupid af.
So, Cliffy was so broken by Lawbreakers's failure that he's in a permanent state of denial?
@ICrowbarYourFace I was interested when it was f2p then it had a price but nothing really add and still seem to have micro transactions. If the game was good maybe he should have never announced it was or could be f2p and just put a price to begin with.
@ICrowbarYourFace I think he must be ashamed of the marketing, the whole "overwatch & counter strike killer" and the "real competitive shooter" shit. It was really annoying. A shame really, the game was good
@ICrowbarYourFace If he hadn't ever opened his mouth, shit on PC players, shit on console players, been a cock online etc. It might have done better. Add to the fact that the game competed with Overwatch (already established) and Paladins (established even earlier and free) and his game stood NO chance at all.
He quite literally was the one at fault. He just can't actually own up to that fact. So he had to make up some BS about wokeness... when nobody had that concern at all.
I think he made that 80s themed Battle Royale game, did he not? I think that was the last nail in the coffin.
@@n0m4nic guy starts 2 good shooter franchises and thinks he can do no wrong and it sucks because he has done good work.
Other poor excuses for a game's failure:
-Aliens: Colonial Marines - Randy Pitchford said it's because of the critics lying or being too harsh.
-Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) - EA said they put the loot boxes because they wanted players to have a sense of pride and accomplishment.
The last one doesng even make Sense, classic EA
I'll never forget the day I went on reddit and personally witnessed the most down voted post in history happening in real time 🤣
Bubsy 3D: Failed because of Super Mario 64. Yeah, keep believing that, Accolade.
Battlefield V - Those sexist white male gamers are at it again, this time saying cybionic women didn't fight with a katana on the British front lines of WWII while wearing Scottish warpaint. Why can't they just let a WWII game that's in a series that's known for trying to be historically authentic have this verifiably historically inaccurate be included so my little girl can play someone that looks like her in this game that's supposed to be authentic?
Before any accusations are thrown my way, there were women that did fight in WWII. Just not on the British front lines. Or the American front lines. Or the French front lines. Or the German front lines. Or the Italian front lines. Basically, any nation involved didn't have women fight in their front lines. The closest would be the Soviets with their 1000 snipers. Their stories deserve to be told just as much as the people who fought on the front lines, yet they've been neglected by all kinds of media. There were women that helped with the French Resistance. During the Battle of Britain, the defenders were women because most of the men weren't there. There is a way to include women in a WWII game while neither breaking authenticity nor making it an alternate history.
@@Demonic_Culture_Nut Battlefield V had less than expected sales because it was released during a time a new massively popular genre would take over the playerbase and was another entry in an already tiring series of samey games, among other reasons that many other games lose sales. Virtually nobody ever talked about the inclusion of women except for reactionaries who want to blame the game's apparent failure on the fact while also trying to not look like sexist dipshits.
Also, nobody ever gives a shit about realism. If you did, you wouldn't be playing Battlefield. It's never been authentic.
To be fair, Silent Hill did the rendering distance explanation thing too yet that worked out well.
I didnt even notice that being a problem in Superman 64. I was more focused in the gameplay and glitches. And just assumed the fog was typical 90s stuff
Well most people wern't expecting much from team silent since all members of the orginal team were put there because they had failed on other projects
@@SGTSAM101ST Wow, I did not know that.
Tho I feel like the reason why people didn’t care was because the fog fit the atmosphere and actually made sense so it felt believable. They also used it to their advantage to make more detailed textures without lagging the game thanks to the short render distance.
When SH2 HD got rid of the fog, it lost it bit of the atmosphere hence why people call it inferior to the og.
@@tjlnintendo i agree
Becouse they didn't treated it like an exscuse, but builded entire lore around it, and turned it into vital part of their world.
Two men are sitting drinking at a bar at the top of the Empire State Building, when the first man turns to the other and says "You know, last week I discovered that if you jump from the top of this building, the winds around the building are so intense that by the time you fall to the 10th floor, they carry you around the building and back into a window". The bartender just shakes his head in disapproval while wiping the bar.
The second guy says, "What, are you nuts? There's no way that could happen. "No, its true," the first man says. "Let me prove it to you." He gets up from the bar, jumps over the balcony, and plummets toward the street below. As he nears the 10th floor, the high winds whip him around the building and back into the 10th floor window and he takes the elevator back up to the bar.
He meets the second man, who looks quite astonished. "You know, I saw that with my own eyes, but that must have been a one time fluke." "No, I'll prove it again," says the first man as he jumps again. Just as he is hurtling toward the street, the 10th floor wind gently carries him around the building and into the window. Once upstairs he urges his fellow drinker to try it.
"Well, why not." the second guy says, "It works. I'll try it." He jumps over the balcony, plunges downward passes the 11th, 10th 9th, 8th, floors. . . . . and hits the sidewalk with a SPLAT.
Back upstairs the bartender turns to the other drinker and says, "You know Superman, you're a real jerk when you're drunk".
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Edit: So many likes! TBH, this version of the joke is much better than the one I first heard. Shorter and less complicated. I had to post it - it was perfect. :D
I don’t think I’ve hit a like button so quickly. Absolutely hilarious.
That's a good one. Thanks for that.
Not heard that one in a long time, thanks for the reminder 🙂
A jerk? He's an outright murderer XD
I was trying to figure out the punchline before you said it but I couldn't and I'm glad because that was great. Thank you for the laugh I needed it
Superman 64: Kryptonite Fog in Metropolis.
Me: Wouldn't Superman's powers be virtually non-existant?
It would literally kill him
@@Nihonguy And a large chunk of the Metropolis population, too (Kryptonite is deadly to ordinary humans as well).
Doesn't it take place in a simulation? Could be it just weakens his powers, and npcs aren't going to die from it, if they aren't programmed to.
As someone who's read a lot of Superman comics, if Superman were flying through airborne Kryptonite thick enough to obscure vision, then he would not only have his powers wrecked, but he wouldn't be able to breathe and he would probably die of radiation poisoning in about thirty seconds.
Yeah, the Kryptonite fog doesn't do shit in the game, so why did Titus make a excuse like that?!
If your game ran bad that you needed to lower the draw distance of it, don't explain to the people that it's because the fog is Kryptonite Fog that can kill Superman, because the fog means the game had it's distance lowered!!
I feel like Lawbreakers was by no means a BAD game: in fact it had a lot going for it. It's main problem was that it came out at the wrong time as Overwatch and battle royale games ate its lunch, much like how a lot of shooters in the late 90s got overshadowed by the mad success of Half-Life 1. That, and the trend of free-to-play online multiplayer made it hard to make the argument of a pay-up-front multiplayer-only game in such an environment. If it was free-to-play to start with, but you could unlock a massive amount of cosmetic options for a flat price, I reckon that would have given it more legs.
That's the kind of monetization that makes sense and makes one feel really sad about the lootbox frenzy nowadays.
Well that and Cliffy decided to follow it up with Radical Heights. A game literally unfinished, to the point where you had bots disguised as players in the game. Where it was possible to drop into areas that hadn't been textured yet. Where it was possible to clip through the floor of the map and be perfectly fine. Suffice to say, it was not a good followup.
@@TheAdmantArchvile bots disguised as players is common in battle royal games, though that doesn't take away from your point. Radical hights was hardly even a tech demo when they released it as 'early access'
It was a combination of market competition, overconfidence that people would want to pay for a multiplayer game, and overestimating people tolerating learning new mechanics they have never experienced before.
@Golden Robodude Here's the thing with creative mechanics: You have to teach people how to use them.
From what I heard, as I never had any interest in playing a game like Lawbreakers, the tutorial was awful and failed to explain how different it was. Things like the gravity mechanic and why you would shoot backwards.
And as for your Fornite example, you forget that the primary gameplay loop wasn't building, it was the BR shooting mechanic. People already were familiar with what that was from the get-go and the building was something they were at least willing to try as the other option was PUBG.
And as for the sale price, I'm kinda back and forth as there are multiplayer games that charge an upfront fee that still sell: Call of Duty, Battlefield, Overwatch, Among Us. Its kinda back and forth.
"Molyneux-esque mendacities"
I've been craving a Molyneux joke forever.
He's never gonna forgive him lol
I was just thinking "hey, he hasn't worked a jab at Molyneux in a while..." and then he did.
I like when he keeps his Peter molyneux jokes to a minimum.
It makes it so much more special when you get to hear them
There was a Jim Sterling episode recently and Him mentioned Molyneux.
All I could think was, "Larry would be proud."
What exactly did Molyneux do (or not do)? I want to laugh at these jokes so badly 🥺
Wasn't there some bug in Sonic 3 that caused you to get permanently stuck, with the manual suggesting that these are "traps set by Robotnik that can only be escaped by resetting the console" or some such?
@bikegirl2 tell me more? I played that game a bunch and never got stuck except for that forest level with the spikes being too hard
I was looking for a comment to mention this while reading about the Superman 64 manual excuse.
Of course, docking it with Sonic and Knuckles patches out the glitches.
@@TomNobody631 In Sonic 3, I think you got stuck if you went way too fast and shot pass the camera.
@@Linklex7 yeah I believe you're right, you could break the collision detection and get trapped. I believe speedrunners exploit the engine in this way in some instances, because the same glitch that can trap him can throw the character vast distances in a second.
@@TomNobody631 this is why orbot and qbot exist
Things that you make you feel all warm inside: Larry's "Hello you"
Eww
He's such a relatable dude. I've lost count of the years that I've been watching his videos.
I work night shift and it's one of the guaranteed pick-me-ups that come through my notifications.
Its losing power tho
You forgot the but
I was a Beta tester for Lawbreakers. It would have succeeded if they actually made any of the changes that the Quake players they desperately marketed towards asked for.
At that point, why not just play Quake Live? Which, RIP Quake Live. You will be sorely missed.
What did they ask for?
I have a friend who worked on the Wii port of Tony Hawk: Ride. He hated the Ride controller with a burning passion, especially since even debugging features like a free camera had to be used with the Ride controller
Company who failed: *WE DON'T SUCK!? .... Y-YOU SUCK! YES!*
Gamers: You Cowards!
when larry says “hello, you” i feel complete.
Yes lol
When Larry says “hello, you” I feel like he’s speaking directly to me.
Feels as if he is patting you on the back :)
Get all tingly inside. And it rubs off on you. I've said this to friends I havnt seen in over a month.
"Hello you. Ahh... I would have give anything for that Egg salad sandwich"
Ummm I do not remember ever hearing anything about Lawbreaker being "woke"...
I do remember seeing the game and telling to myself "Oh great, another multiplayer fps, pass..."
Oh, it was definitely a thing on some parts of the internet.
Even before it was released, people kept comparing it to Overwatch. That right there was already a problem.
I do. He went as far as making an ass of himself wearing a shirt that looked like it spelled "CUCK"
@@AgentDanielCross CliffyB is the John Romero of our generation
@@n0m4nic I would say he was dormant longer before his crazy showed. He was involved with game development in the early 90s after all as was Romero but nobody ever remembers Jazz Jackrabbit...
A ex cowoeker was back than on a event where he could play THPS Ride. He done a actual Trick with the board Controller just because he was said that "its like a real Skateboard". The board broke in Half. And everyone was pissed at him.
A few NEW copys are sold now for 10 bucks (including the board) at my favorite shop.
Wow. Just... wow...
"Good, old-fashioned incompetence."
The best kind of incompetence. Kids these days don't know what real incompetence is.
Like how Larry doesn't know what "bricked" is.
One of my absolute favorites was when Bioware's executive producer, Mark Darrah, attempted to shift blame of Mass Effect Andromeda's poor sales and lower-than average review scores on...Breath of the Wild.
Yes, that's right! A game in a completely different genre not released on any of the consoles Andromeda was on is clearly to blame for the game's lackluster performance, and not the game itself!
No, that makes sense, because literally no one ever buys two or more different consoles. Ever. You either buy a PlayStation, Xbox, or a Nintendo product. Never more than one of them. That doesn't happen, at all. Nope. No one does that, ever. Therefore, if they buy Breath of the Wild, it means they'll NEVER buy Mass Effect Andromeda! It's so obvious!
Lawbreakers was actually set to do rather well until ol' Cliffy put his foot in it and decided to be open vitriolic towards gamers. Which pretty much spelled doom for the fucking game XD
The game was supposed to be free. Then 29.99. Then he shit-talked the Xbox crowd despite already being hated by PC gamers. I mean it's pretty ballsy to try to compete with Overwatch that was already established and had players, and Paladins which is an arguably much superior game to either at the low, low price of Free!
I'm surprised how many media producers have the attitude of "we don't want you as our audience", only to be shocked when they realize no one's buying into their product.
PROTIP: never insult your customer base, potential or otherwise. Unless you hate earning more money from customers.
Yeah, his excuse wasn't exactly wrong per se, but mostly because he was trying to accomplish a herculean task and he was shooting himself repeatedly in the foot at the same time.
@@NotAGoodUsername360 he recognized his flaw in that regard, so I can appreciate that at least. He recognized the way he acted played a large part in ruining his game
Just comparing it to Overwatch was a bad move. It played like an arena shooter, with complex movement (rocket jumps, bunny hopping, different ways to carry momentum) and its two main modes were capture the flag style. Comparisons were bound to happen no matter what, but instead of distancing from it, Cliffy...ahem sorry "DudeHuge" , just dug his heels, and took shots at Overwatch.
Cliffy B just entered my shit list for blaming being 'woke' for the game's failure instead of insulting gamers with nothing that has anything to do with being 'woke'. People are getting killed in the streets by racists and that's how he tries to excuse his failures?
So, Cliffy B essentially said: "I am so woke that it is only natural that I go broke." His excuse is a meme.
It's weird. If I'm honest, I thought the game got so little attention that nobody got to go "REEEE SJW AGENDA IN MY VIDDY GAME REEEE TWO GENDERS REEEEEEEEE" over it. It's not like Overwatch hasn't had its share of people who go "pshhh it's an sjw game raggleraggle", but I never saw anything like that for Lawbreakers.
I thought you were shoehorning in politics. OMG SMH Cliff went full bitch.
Cliffy _"None of that 60 dollar multiplayer-only bullshit"_ B. blessing us once again with his inane predictions and opinions that only serve to blow up in his face after.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN As Larry alludes to, Overwatch has a “diverse” cast and is a smashing success. Diversity in itself is not what anyone has an issue with. You assume any opposition to the woke agenda must be bigotry, but you’re fighting phantoms, friend.
@@taffysaur What are you even talking about? That's literally what I said.
I remember LawBreakers. Bought the game on release day. Had fun with it for a few weeks but gave up on it shortly after. Cliffy B being Cliffy B surely didn't help this game's lifespan.
I don't think this game even had team deathmatch. It was so bare of functionality.
@@arnox4554 It didn't have it on release, but it did get team deathmatch later in it's life cycle, basically as a last ditch effort to bring back old players. People were asking for it during free weekends and open beta, and the response was always "It wouldn't be balanced". Game didn't really have the time or playerbase to really prove if that statement was true or not.
I know more than a couple actual skaters that love the board controller. I think the real issue with it was it was an enthusiast product, built for enthusiasts, marketed to the masses. None of the reviewers were skaters themselves, so they didn't have the muscle memory real skaters have. You just can't release a game for whatever percent of real pro skaters are out there that will buy it and be able to make it perform. That's just not a viable product. You see this sort of thing happen a lot. The reason things like guitar hero worked was that 1) it isn't actually a guitar, it is way easier to learn than that and 2) there are a LOT of real guitar players out there with transferable skillsets.
This is why Tony likes the controller. It was built for people like him. All tens of them.
Realistically, they should have had a team working on the board controller, and another working on basic gamepad controls. That way, they could sell two versions of the game - casual with the game alone, and pro with the included board controller. I get the idea of giving players a more authentic skateboarding experience, but as a tubby middle-aged guy with inner ear damage, hell no I'm not going to balance on a piece of plastic on a carpet in front of my television, game console, and a bunch of very solid and angled furniture.
Surprised there was no mention of Bethesda's infamous "It Just Works" quote on this list.
Apparently "It Just Works" actually comes from Todd Howard playing Fallout:76 while being interviewed and as he we placing things around his base camp or something (I believe it involved connecting things through power lines) he said "and it just works". Then the meme took off on its own.
That’s because he said it at the E3 reveal when there was no beta for us to mess around with.
"It's better than nothing." - Keiji Inafune
That's because, somehow, Bethesda can't not make money. No matter how buggy an Elder Scrolls or Fallout game is it will still bust sales records.
Complicated / innovative periferals should always be an OPTION.
Something the players could see as a "plus".
Not being forced to use it.
Yeah, forced periferals are a detriment to every game or console, that's the reason why the Wii U failed, had Nintendo release the console with the pro controller, it could have been sold cheaper and saved it to the end of the generation. I don't think the problem was bad marketing, unless really people are that stupid to think that it was a periferal, it was that it looked unnecesarily complicated, required two power bricks (one for the console and other for the controller) and that many gamers were alienated by what the Wii ended up being.
@@javierortiz82
Super true.
Disagree. Standard controllers ruined the first person shooter genre.
@@noop9k KB+M all the way!
joke aside, it should be like how Mario Kart has done it; you can steer with the motion controls, but you don't need to.
I kind of think that skateboard game would've had a better chance as a spinoff mini game.
i think we should add "molyneuxque" to the urban dictionary.
ohh but i cant imagine a definition that includes sex so nevermind...
Including sex is easy: _fuck up_ everything
We have finally evolved enough as a species to use Molyneux as an adjective. Happyness.
I can.
To Molyneaux (sex): making outlandish promises of multiple orgasms and they finish in less than a minute.
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You and KJ are superb,, thanks for all the great videos.
Kim sent me here.
I would but i don't wanna take attention from the comment(s) you certainly left on her videos already.
Larry, can you please cover the disaster that was the Roll 20 clusterfuck? It's an online table top platform that a LOT of people use to play D&D whose co-founder had such an epic PR disaster that after someone on r/dnd called him out on his bullshit (he banned them because they had a vaguely similar name to someone else that he banned because they both DARED to criticize Roll 20) he responded.....that response got to be one of reddit's top 100 most downvoted posts of all time in less than day, and got memed shitless. This even got into the news a few times as well as prior news articles being linked exposing the co-founder as even a larger asshole than previously established.
If you are curious, I did document the first 24 or so hours of this clusterfuckastrophe pretty thoroughly including screen caps and numerous deleted posts that I saved copies of.
Brb about to leave a comment
Hey Larry. You may want to fix the time codes for your episode.
5:23 - Jet Set Willy
9:09 - Lawbreakers
13:00 - Tony Hawk: Ride & Shred
Hope this helps.
"They didn't like my game because it's not a (insert popular genre)!"
~Hideo Kojima, David Cage, Peter Molyneaux...
Ironic considering David Cage's type of "gameplay" was super mainstream after the sucess of Heavy Rain
Kojima was right lmfao, most people went into Death Stranding thinking it was a third person action stealth game
@@Mokujo except he wasn't because quite a number of *not shooters* are quite successful.
But hey, can't convince the cult.
@Black Chandelier Mirage in all fairness, Kojima is good at what he does, just not as much as his fans think he is. Or he thought he was before Death Stranding.
Sure, he was behind Snatcher, Metal Gear up to 5 and others, but he also had a ton of blunders even in MGS itself. And well... he was behind the one Castlevania game/series we don't speak of.
@@shis1988 How did he manage to screw up Castlevania?
I'm still waiting for *"Tony Hawk's Existential Nightmare"* to drop.
I think they called it "Pro Skater 5"
A whole game where you play as Tony Hawk, and people walk by asking if he knows Tony Hawk?
Ugh Tony Hawk Ride. I remember how I was actually sent a copy of it to "review" where I gave it one of my most scathing reviews ever. The even sadder part was I was able to sell the game online afterwards, and nearly got the full asking price for it! I really want to know who was sadistic enough to want to pay full price for a USED copy of that game, let alone brand new!
The answer: dumb people or those who have to know.
As an example of the latter, I remember a streamer I watch who got a copy of Contra: Rouge Corps and played it because he had to know, because he was a hardcore Contra fan. On top of that he enjoyed playing bad games as he would riff on them MST3000-style.
Long story short, I have never heard a man sound so sad in my life.
Who cares man you got lucky as hell! Good job
doesnt that make you a even more shitty person you got a review copy tried to make money of your review and wanted to make even more money selling it after when you could of easily gave it away
Awww I thought Cliffy B’s excuse was gonna be poisonous gas.
He did mention his smug farts at least.
@@Alchenaut Yeah I thought that qualified. Ha, ha!
Being woke is pretty much the equivalent of getting a dose of poison gas..
@@williamsmith666 Being into politics in general*
Imagine not being able to kill your enemy because of poisonous gas lmao
I mean, I agree with Tony that the board was ahead of its time but only in terms of it's concept. It is genuinely a pretty neat idea, but I don't think there will ever be a good physical version of the idea ever.
I think it's been done in arcades with better results, but I'm not sure how it could be done as a home product.
@@mistertagomago7974 i can confirm that, i played on an arcade machine with a board it worked almost perfectly.
Thats why at first it was really weird for me to hear that the home versión sucked
Tony Hawk's board would have been great for virtual reality. If they had waited maybe about 5 years, maybe 10, then they might have something. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some VR Dev manages to hack a board to work in VR especially given how cheap they can be now. That said, the board by itself outside of virtual reality is clearly worthless.
A good physical version is an actual skateboard
@@nickfifteen that sounds like a great idea on paper... But the motion sickness people would feel with a game moving that fast and with all the tricks would be an issue.
Cliffy B: The game failed because it was woke.
Also Cliffy B: Conveniently ignores the fact that his game was already showing signs of dying, even before people made that discovery.
The Ps1 Spiderman game had a story reason for why he couldn't go down to streets, and it actually worked quite well even though basically being rather similar to superman's excuse.
Yeah, I was gonna to mention that. Thats the reason why I kinda of disagree with that dev quote there.
What was the reason?.
@@toumabyakuya3498 iirc the manual mentioned that Peter's _crippling_ homophobia would cause him to pass out at the sight of the city's ongoing Pride Parades on street level.
@@Orpheusftw Hilarious.
@@toumabyakuya3498 Doc ock released a poison gas into the streets below the skyscrapers.
*Cliff Blazinski goes over his notes after watching this episode and realizes that the whole time, he had been reading the negative reviews about The Last Of Us II the whole time and indeed, LawBreakers didn't have any reviews to read at all, negative or otherwise.*
BTW, for those who want some laughter, check out Tony hawk's twitter. the skateboarder, not the british guy.
his experience with people only Semi-recognizing him is HILARIOUS.
There's a British Tony Hawk? I've learned something. Though to be fair, when I saw him in an advert on TV at like 8, I thought Skater TH was British. Because it was on British TV XD
@overclockeador Completely fair. I guess the games named after him aren't sold there?
I was helped in learning he was American when he made a one-episode cameo in the CG cartoon Max Steel, the original version of the show. I've only just remembered that.
@overclockeador Ah, yes, of course. Excuse me for misunderstanding.
Lolol how do they barely recpgnozr tony hawk always confused mee lol
@@Roadent1241 Yeah there's a British comedian called Tony Hawks
When I cook dinner and I go outside to grill, I always say "Hellooo Youuuuu" to my grill. Weird?
No, not at all.
I talk to inanimate objects all the time. I only worry when I have a meaningful back and forth conversation with one.
Does your grill respond with "Aw sh*t, here we go again"?
Superman 64 was truly ahead of its time. now its industry standard to release a broken buggy unfinished shell of a game.
15:20 that analogy made me weak in the knees...
17:59 Gotta love those ridiculous old trailers.
For years now I've been getting such comfort from this series, your intro is so welcoming, Larry. Absolutely one of my favourite web series. Keep on king.
I've seen those Tony Hawk Ride boards a few times at my local GoodWill for the Wii, and thought about picking one up since they were so cheap, but then thought to myself, na I highly value my dignity, and quickly passed.
That 8 bit version of Superman by Goldfinger is so rad hahaha. Love it!
Thanks, yeah had to iunclude it :P
TH-cam dropped the “Red”. It is now called “TH-cam Premium.”
You also have to remember the plot of Superman 64 is that Lex has trapped Superman in a Virtual Reality version of Metropolis.
That's why there is kryptonite fog, and very few, if any, civilians in the world.
Tony Hawk should have teamed up with Tech Deck to make a smaller motion sensitive skateboard controller you still use with your hands. At least, that might have sold better since the vast majority of people don't know how to actually skate.
So... A wiimote?
Or any other motion controller or something?
4:30 Thank goodness it never happened again. ISn't that right, fog in malf of the Silent Hill games? Isn't that right, "cinematic" 30fps framerate in absolute majority of peasant games in the last 2 generations? Isn't that right, forced "depth of field" that makes image more realistic by blurring everything past 10m ahead of you, so console can just render a rectangle instead of a complex model? Thank goodness all this hackery stayed contained in the Superman 64 and didn't infect the entirety of console market for the next 2 decades and counting...
You laugh at "Kryptonite Fog", but that excuse has been used successfully. In Silent Hill, the reason that the town is all foggy was due to draw distance limitations.
Atleast Silent Hill worked regardless of the lack in draw distance.
@@rho-starmkl4483 some people were saying that the remastered version doesn't catch the same vibes as the original for this very reason. Makes sense for it.
It works for atmosphere in a horror game.
Superman is not horror. Maybe. Well intentionally.
Yeah superman is not a horror game is it?
Superman 64 is a horror game after all.
Except Silent Hill doesn't spent 95% of its game flying though rings.
Some ten years before the first licensed copy of a game was sold in our parts, there was a pirate localisation of fallout, which had no sound. The disc came with a note by the pirates on the lines of "well, there used to be sound, but after we decoded it, replaced the voice lines and encoded it again it turned to be too much to fit on a disk, so we had to cut it out altogether".
" Superman does not do... "
They actually think it's real lol.
Obviously a character has to have certain parameters to them or they wouldn’t BE a character, just an empty shell.
@@taffysaur I mean that didnt stop MAN of Steel supes to do all of those things (most by accident but still)
@@ironmaster6496 True. That’s Zack Snyder not understanding the character, which kind of reinforces my point.
I wouldn't think that, but this was around the time Warner Bros were making bad decisions on a regular basis (AOL merger anyone?). So it's not far off that they would hinder a project for no good reason.
I love that there is a chiptune version of Superman playing in the background during the Tony Hawk segment xD.
Superman has been punching people since 1938...wtf was the license holder thinking?
You know it's going to be a good one when there's a Molyneux jab within the first 50 seconds
The sad thing is, Lawbreakers was actually a pretty good time. Just came out too late, with the market already owned purely by a couple highly popular games.
4:16 - Yeah, at least one game did that. This little known game called Silent Hill.
You could argue that we do have modern equivalents of 'kryptonite fog', for instance; The Animus in the AC series that can sometimes be used as an excuse for the buggy nature of Ubisoft's otherwise engaging franchise. There is even a trophy in AC Valhalla titled 'it's not a bug, it's a feature' that you get for completing all the 'Animus glitch' side quests. All very meta.
Don't forget the C64 version of Shadowfire. It had a bug that you occasionally took damage for no reason. The manual described this as an "additional challenge" caused by "General Zorf's Invisible Dog".
LawBreakers WAS pretty fun. I'm actually genuinely upset it didnt really get the chance to get off the ground
I LOVE Chapters/sections in videos! Thanks so much for including them, Larry!
My pleasure!
Jesus I forgot about Cliffy B. Good to see he’s still as mental as ever 👍🏻
"Our CEO is Randy Pitchford" And I would accept that as an excuse.
i used to work at a thrift store and there was two games we would see new in box all the time: tony hawks ride, and DJ hero. those two basically killed the peripherals market.
Yeah they milked the ever loving hell out of the "music rhythm game" genre. All was good up until about Rock Band 2 came out. Then the competing companies clearly were still money hungry but out of ideas. That's when they released crap like Guitar Hero Aerosmith/Green Day/Why is this happening? Also Beatles Rock Band. As much as I love the Beatles, it just became oversaturated wayyy too quickly. By the time DJ Hero came out, everyone was already over the fad. I didn't know a single person who owned it, and honestly, that genre had run it's course. There was a sharp decline of quality in favor of quantity, and I'm kind of glad it died out.
ITS ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL THAT LARRY ONLY HAS 392K SUBS. SHOULD BE WELL OVER A MILLION.
I wonder if Tony Hawk actually liked the game, and could pull off some sick gameplay (assuming he ever actually sat down to play it)
Maybe he really is clueless as to why the game failed
I feel like Tony Hawk's attitude towards it was half paid, but half legitimate. I really think he believed in the product but at the same time, was contractually obligated to keep a good face on in public despite whatever misgivings he had during its development. Like I'm sure he clashed with the devs and overall disagreed with how it should have been done, but otherwise ultimately still believed in the project. Maybe he recognized that he wasn't a developer so he trusted the actual devs on how it should be done, even though in his heart he knew something wasn't right. At least that's what it looks like to me, if that makes sense.
Superman 64 never ceases to amaze. I still try and imagine what could have been, hilariously enough.
“Don’t buy Tony Hawks RIDE unless you want to be taken for one” 😂😂 absolutely savage review
I'm not sure what he means. I'm gonna assume he means a ride to the hospital. Still, I love that line. LoL
@@WillieManga getting taken for a ride is British slang for a situation where someone wastes your time for money and implies a bit of a scam/game.
And a fitting one at that.
Makes me think of the theme song for Guru Larry's mates videos.
"I'm going to take you for a ride".
I was having a shit day but sitting down and hearing that "hello you" made me feel so comfortable and at ease. Mans a legend
2:40 *starts off with one of the most infamous games in history*
Me, aloud: OOF! This is gonna be good!
I'm still very sad that lawbreakers was released with such bad timing going head-to-head with Overwatch, Realm Royale, PUBG, Warframe, Battleborn, The Culling, Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex (another awesome game that got canned), and a bunch of others. Too many looter shooters released in a 2yr time frame, with many being f2p, some games just don't get the attention they deserve due to oversaturation of the market.
I had an alpha key to Lawbreakers and I loved it, insanely fast gameplay, very good programming & graphics, was just difficult finding games with so few concurrent players and not being able to have bots in it.
The kryptonite fog reminds me of the smoke that covered the streets in Spider-Man on the PS1. Can't see all the people because of the smog, and it's totally not because rendering an entire city won't be viable for another couple of decades. Still, it wasn't like anyone expected them to pull off something that crazy. Being able to see six feet in front of you, however...yeah. I can see why Superman's excuse didn't land.
True, but at least in spiderman on the PS1 they actually made it part of the story and including it in the cutscenes, they recognised the limitations and overcame it, no different to silent Hill 2 being foggy because of the ash.
But to put it as text only in the manual implies it was an after-thought
@@gincairn8763 Silent Hill 2 isn't foggy because of ash, you're thinking of the movie Silent Hill.
I forget how many Bay Area game developers from back in the day used San Francisco's fog as an excuse for the crappy draw distances.
@@CodyHeredia my mistake, I thought the game had a similar reason, was it just fog then? Must admit I never played SH2
God that Superman game pissed me off, it came out when I was 16. I walked down to the local rental shop brought it home played for 15 mins and took it back...I was so disappointed...
2:38 to skip the advertisement bs
I used to have a small store where I sold anything from antiques to video games, and every time someone wanted to purchase a copy of Superman 64, I'd always downsell it - I would highly recommend NOT purchasing it, I'd exclaim that it was literally the worst game on the console, but people still bought it... Some folks must've thought I was a complete nut, and absolute shit salesman... lol... I just couldn't live with myself selling a copy of Superman 64 without highlighting the disclaimer...
Oh god, imagine being told that Battleborn has more players than your game.
I'd quit and beg Blizzard for a job.
Kinda funny that earlier on, WB and DC were very restrictive of their properties, but today, they let their games be anything the devs want/need. Mostly.
Cliffy B lost all coherency a while ago. Along with these statements, he seemed to confuse the Pendulum Wars and the war against the Locust Horde, two fictional conflicts he helped create himself!
Hell, even I know the difference between the two, and my investment into the series is rather subdued. I played the first one, but never really got to grips with it. I read a few of the comics though, because they were a fun ride.
The Pendulum Wars were basically the in-universe Cold War-gone-hot, between the two Superpowers of COG and the UIR, and ended just a short time before Gears of War 1. It was a mostly conventional war, so no chainsaw bayonets yet, though some Maori-inspired island tribes, the ones Tai Kaliso came from, apparently fought with shields, swords and spears against the Machine Guns and Tanks of the UIR. Most of the playable Characters in the main Trilogy participated in the conflict in one way or another.
The Locust War meanwhile is the Human vs "Aliens" conflict the series is centered around, and needs no explanation.
Can't believe pendulum summoning in yu gi oh started such a large conflict
The swinging in LawBreakers actually looked pretty cool. Don’t play battle royale games, but it looks like it would’ve been dope to swing round buildings like Spider-Man.
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the motion control tony hawk games are some of those rare big name games that not even speed runners touch
I was about to check the fact hunt playlist when this gem dropped
9:27 my mom had to go talk to one of my teachers before as a kid because my puppy at the legit ate my homework
I participated in the LawBreakers beta, it was a good game. It had fun game play, the mechanics were great, the characters were as interesting as any in Overwatch, but there was just no one playing it. I think they failed to advertise the beta and the game was just not noticed.
You had me at "Hello You”
“It’s not a bug it’s a feature” was first said by john carmac about strafe jumping in quake
Poor Tony Hawk. He's a legendary skater, a legendary man who looks like Tony Hawk but he's a pretty lousy game developer.
A lot of the Jet Set Willy room names would make great names for bands
"It's not a bug, it's a feature"
There should have been a 5th entry on this video, showing Lance Barr's nonsensical explanation as to why the American SNES looks ugly.
It does look ugly
One particular excuse I like is how the creators of Bubsy 3D blamed the success of Mario 64 for their failure.
I mean, they weren't WRONG, I guess. SM64 showed the world that 3D platforming can be done well, and was released a whole 4 months before! If I had to play one or the other, I'd pick the one where I get cake at the end.
That Tony Hawk board is accurate. When you land a trick all day you end up raging and breaking the Damn broad.
Cliffy B’s response “Get woke, go broke”?!
Surprised he didn't blame Trump
@@adamphillip5305 “Trump shuts down mediocre game” now that’s a headline
For me personally Lawbreakers being another online-only shooter and costing money upfront was enough to keep me away. The bathroom thing made me laugh, but if I skipped every piece of media that didn't align with me politically 100 percent I would never play any games or watch movies.