A Guitar Teacher Reacts to Ghost River by Nightwish | Live at Wacken 2013
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Theatrical and Dramatic are Tuomas middle names :-)
Ok, Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean from Buenos Aires, Yours Is An Empty Hope from Wembley, Song Of Myself from Wacken - and I think you still never heard Troy? Nope, you didn't. So strike all that, you need to listen to I Want My Tears Back from Bueons Aires first!! You can also see the new drummer Kai Hahto there after Jukka had to quit for health reasons (he's still CEO of the band though)
CEO? What? I'm pretty sure if there was a CEO for a band (never heard it in that context before) it would be Tuomas.... he makes all major and final decisions. Jukka's role would probably be closer to band manager.
On the status of drummer Jukka Nevalainen, who stepped down from the band in 2014 due to chronic insomnia:
Tuomas: "He's still very much involved with the band. He's the CEO of our company.
www.blabbermouth.net/news/tuomas-holopainen-on-why-nightwish-took-a-year-off-the-passion-just-wasnt-there/
There are multiple sources for that, this is just one example.
@@user-jy1bc3gw2q Tuomas doesn't care about the business side, and Jukka does, so that's why he is the CEO of the band's company. :)
Bri CEO for band’s company.
Sergey: "Is there more theatrical or dramatic songs like this?"
Me: ":D" (Making the popcorn ready)
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@Dominik Zaire Instablaster :)
She can growl !!! Listen to Nightwish - Your's an empty hope live wembly. It's also an amazing guitar riff trough the song.
Even more so on her ReVamp work, that's quite a step more towards simply metal, rather than the symphonic variant.
You should check out Ever dream from this same concert, Your's is an empty hope from Wembley, then Devil and the deep dark ocean from Decades :)
She can sing, dance, perform, groooowl, move sexy... She is one paradigm of sensuality.
Marco found the perfect match on stage.
Please check Nightwish cover of Pink Floyd's High Hopes.
So some fun facts. 1. Floor was not even an official member of the band during this concert. The band parted ways (in typical dramatic Nightwish fashion) in the middle of their North American tour. Floor was brought in to finish the NA &SA shows and then the European summer festival circuit. This was I believe the last festival of the summer so you could say this was a job interview although to be honest the job was going to be hers after the first couple of shows. There is a documentary about it (Please Learn the set list in 48hrs.) 2. While Floor was Flying over from Europe Elize from Amaranthe who was touring with Kamelot ,the opening act, filled in for one night so they didn't have to cancel the show (The Denver Debacle). Elize only had a couple of hours notice and was singing off of sheet music on stage. 3. You mentioned Devin I'm not aware of a Devin Nightwish connection but Anneke who frequently collaborates with him was one of Floors biggest influences. 4. I'd be fine with you reacting to the entire NW catalog but when you said this was epic I immediately thought it was time to introduce you to Epica If you check out "Santa Terra" or "Sabat Mater Dolorossa" from the retrospect show Floor is performing with them. 5. Lastly this brings me to what we like to call the Dutch Metal Maidens (Anneke, Sharon, Floor, Simone, Charlotte, & Dianne) for a country of its size the Netherlands has an insane amount of uber talented female fronted metal leads.
Small correction, Floor and Troy was asked to join band as full members back in June, which both happily did, so they already were official members in Wacken. But they (Nightwish) did not wanna make announcement while on tour(for obvious reasons). So they waited few months after the tour before the official announcement.
My understanding was that Elize's one night fill-in was prior to the firing of Annette. Annette was ill, so Tuomas asked Elize to fill-in. It was right after that show that Annette completely flipped out about being replaced rather than the show being cancelled that they let her go and had to scramble to find a replacement. Luckily Floor was available and the rest is history.
Let's not forget Floors sister Irene, who is a damn good singer in her own right, showed up regularly at her After Forever shows and also particated on the Ayreon albums (and shows). @Sergey: you might want to check out Floors earlier work, for instance ReVamp. I personally love 'Sweet Curse', but haven't seen a good live version YT so far. But Wild Card, the Live version at Bloodstock might be a good starter. Agree with Jack on pretty much all his points though :)
Thats the thing with Nightwish. You think you heard the best song and then the next one blows you away again. It's catchy, yet unique every time. And so versatile
From the same Wacken 2013 show: Song of Myself, Everdream and I Want My Tears Back. For a song that out-epics Ghost Love Score, try The Greatest Show On Earth from live at Tampere. For something COMPLETELY different, try The Islander from live at Tampere. And for dramatic...definitely The Poet and the Pendulum live at Wembley. I would recommend checking out the lyrics for The Greatest Show On Earth and The Poet and the Pendulum prior to listening to those two.
Nice one!. Theater and Drama?
- "Dark Chest of Wonders", "Song Of Myself" @Waken 2013
- "7 Days to the Wolves", "Yours Is An Empty Hope" @Wembley 2015
- "Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean", "Slaying the Dreamer" @Buenos Aires 2018
Yeah, the entire album Imaginaerum ('Storytime' and this are both from that album) has that kind of 'dark whimsical carnival' vibe on purpose so you'll probably enjoy 'I Want My Tears Back', 'Last Ride of the Day' and 'Song of Myself' from this show a lot. :) There's also the *very* theatrical 'Scaretale' -- though many say it's more Anette's wheelhouse than Floor's.
Darnaguen I wish every reactor actually watched imaginaerum...
@@danzansandeev6033 I don't know if that's exactly necessary when you're just getting into the band. Maybe once you're decided you're actually a fan since it can be a bit much for a newbie to absorb and not necessarily everyone's cup of tea.
Emppu rocks on Guitar !!!
One of my favorites for sure. Everdream from this concert is excellent as well.
Hey.....Don't say, " I'm going to watch this again", and not let us see it as well. You want Theatrical and Dramatic = Yours Is An Empty Hope at Wembley. Enjoy !
Seconded.
You must watch Poet and the Pendulum from Wembley. The most incredible, dramatic performance. There is a back story to the song and the performance. Some will say that knowledge of it will enrich the song. But it isn’t essential if you just want to be swept away in the glory of it all. The choice is yours sir! Thank you for another great reaction 😃👏🏻
Every song from this concert is fantastic. Try - Song of Myself , Last Ride of the Day, She is My Sin, Dark Chest of Wonders from Wacken 2013
Most guitarist favors this one :)
The guitar riff is a tribute to Van Halen's "Aint talking bout love" but it fits so perfect to this song
Song of myself and yours is an empty hope next please! Great reaction as always!
i personally think "the gratest show on earth" (live at Tampere) and "poet and the pendulum" are very epic ;) but im not sure if ur ready for it now :D
Every new Nightwish song you hear: That's my favorite one! :)
Nice reaction as always, thanks
Beauty!! Nice setup! Time for some "Song of Myself" (Same concert)
Theatrical and Dramatic is Nightwish for the most part. even the softest of songs is in its own way.
Try 7 Days to the Wolves (Wembley). The song is slower but definitely dramatic. The sound of the song is softer than Ghost River, but towards the end you get a grand finale...
Each new song you hear from them is the new best of them :-) Welcome to nightwish
You'll keep discovering new favorites as you keep digging.
In this song Marko plays part of devil and Floor is Gaia (mother Earth). In similar way,, Marko is again devil and this kind dialogue goes on "Devil and The Deep Dark Ocean", best would be Buenos Aires 2018. It is crazy performance! You haven´t yet seen ANY similar from them!
Another super dramatic song where they also have great harmonies is 7 Days to the Wolves live from Wembley.
Must watch "Song of my Self" and "Ever Dream" Wacken 2013...
Dark Chest of Wonders... The show opener for this Wacken performance. Similar energy.
My favourite Nightwish song and version
It looked like you were in awe during the whole song. :D
I'm gonna make a couple more suggestions. For these two songs Emppu actually wrote all the guitar parts himself, riffs AND solos. Nothing extreme, but perfect for the songs. :)
Nemo live in Buenos Aires 2018: th-cam.com/video/XqIKKrddEAk/w-d-xo.html
Alpenglow live in Wembley Arena 2015: th-cam.com/video/FrJvKZNEh7g/w-d-xo.html
If you want to watch a nice interview with the keyboard player where he talks about the songwriting process and a little bit about Emppu and the guitars, here is a link: th-cam.com/video/49L6WqxBE98/w-d-xo.html
You haven’t seen ‘the greatest show on earth’ live in Tampere. That will be your favourite
great react again sergey,hmmm i think this is goming also very high my favorite nightwish songs. great day there and keep going.
"He will go down he will drown drown, deeper down"
I mean you, and this Nightwish rabbit hole =P
How the hell you have so few subscribers?!
Well, he had around 10,000 and then he reviewed Annette's version of Song of Myself..... LOL
You will find that Nightwish does have a touch of musical theater in their music. Floor has also had some musical theater training. Floor has done some work with Devan. He sang on one of her CD's and she also sang on one of his. If you like this one you need to check out an older song performed more recently. Check out "Devil and the Deep dark Ocean" live from Buenos Aires 2018. th-cam.com/video/t26r_vAYQ0Q/w-d-xo.html Or maybe "10th Man Down" from the same show. th-cam.com/video/Px1YJ0EdNAI/w-d-xo.html
nice to see that you can enjoy this as much as we do!
But if you want even more theatrical, you should look at;
"devil and the deep dark ocean", "kinslayer" and "slayer the dreamer" from their Decades tour in Buenos Aires 2018 ..
Another, but very good one, was performed in Wembley arena 2015, "7 days to the wolves".
That is also the concert, where their greatest theatrical piece is performed "Poet and the pendulem"
All fantastic good and beautiful songs, but would consider to do my all time favorite "Song of myself" of the same concert as this (Wacken 2013)?
Master passion greed with Marco on vocals 🙏🙏🙏
"That's my favourite one". You're going to say that a lot :)
Ty do all from wacken they are all gems
Alike, take a look at the Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean from Buenos Aires 2018.
From the same concert e.g. Slaying the Dreamer, 10th Man Down, Dead Boy's Poem, The Kinslayer.
And for the heavy side: Yours Is An Empty Hope, Wembley 2015. From the same concert alike e.g. 7 Days to The Wolves or While Your Lips Are Still Red for the softer side of them.
And slowly towards the 2 long, epic ones.
Poet and The Pendulum, Wembley 2015.
The Greatest Show on Earth, Tampere 2015. And for this one, pick the right version i.e. the longest one you can find. Some cut the end off. And watch until the very end.
For sure some good next steps are:
"Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean" (Buenos Aires): Uptempo and really nice heavy
"Yours an Empty Hope" (Wembley): Here you heared a first short growl by Floor. Be prepared for more!
Two songs very similar to the theatrical feel of this one can be found on the 2018 Buenos Aires set list - check out Slaying the Dreamer and Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean. I guarantee both will blow you away. Floor’s vocals are brain-melting
Poet and the Pendulum is a must do.
For sure! Everyone keeps saying that one!
@@LetsPlayMrK please learn the backstory for that particular song before you do. Its important. With context its their most emotional song.
You noticed the distortion...check out Yours is an Empty Hope from Wembley
Floor backing Marco is so cool. Empu is great too.
So, as a Guitar Teacher you have recognised that this is a Van Halen Riff? Tuomas is doing a lot of that little credit parts for his heroes. In The Gratest Show On Earth you will find a 20sec. part of the music hisiory ending with Enter Sandman. The older live versions of Whishmaster ends with The Trooper by Iron Maiden.
Greatest show on Earth. Live in Tampere. It is mega!
🤘🤘 LOVE IT 🤘🤘
My suggestions would be the Poet and the Pendulum (this song is for me the definition of "theatrical and dramatic, you'll love it. It has a lot of meaning for the band, a lot of people will tell you to dig about it before listning, but I don't tink it's necessary to appreciate the musicianship in this), Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean, Yours is An Empty Hope or Song of Myself :)
No distortion! Growling!
Song of myself, Seven days to the wolves, Weak fantasy and the two big ones, Poet and the pendulum and The greatest show on earth. And Pan from the new album.
I've been playing guitar since I was 4yrs old...got to play with Elvis when I was 7yrs and many, many artists over the years...I'm 64 this year and I have been listening to Nightwish since Floor came in 2012...I must say that Tuomas is a musical genius along side with Marco and Epu...the marriage of skills has impressed me more than most of today's bands....try listening to an old band called My Sleeping Karma...being a guitar player you will find their early genius quite impressive...
Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean live in Buenos Aires
The Poet and the Pendulum live in Wembley
The Greatest Show on Earth live in Tampere
3 very dramatic songs by Nightwish 🤘
You have to do Song of Myself but live in Wacken 2013, this same concert, very different than the version you reacted to.🤟🤟✌️✌️
well, i've enjoyed your reactions, you've gained another sub from the Nightwish Army
Still recommending Ever Dream and Song of Myself, both from Wacken 2013.
Song of Myself is going up tomorrow, but not from Wacken 2013. The one with Annette! Do you want me to do the Wacken 2013 version, too?
@@LetsPlayMrK Absolutely. Annette was not very good live. I know people say Nightwish is best served live, but that really only applies to the Tarja and Floor eras. Annette was only good in studio. You will likely be disappointed in a live version with Annette, and I've seen it before where it puts a sour taste of the song in your mouth (ear). Plus the sound engineering in Wacken 2013 was so superb that if there is a live version of a song from Wacken 2013, even if there's one from another show, always do Wacken 2013. Also even though Annette was good in studio, nearly every song sung by her, but later performed live by Floor, is better with the live Floor version (except maybe Scaretale, which is quintessentially Annette). For example, Storytime is originally an Annette song, and the studio version was good with Annette, but the live version with Floor is better.
@@LetsPlayMrKYes please !!!!
Greatest show on Earth is a great song to from them. One of the best symphonic metal bands.
Emppu has pinch harmonics down cold. It's very impressive.
Greatest Show on Earth and Poet and the Pendulum. Read up on them first and read the lyrics. They are sort of like mini concerts. IMO, the best versions were from the Tampere 2015 show.
Emmpu and his D tuned ESP EV-1. Hes a seriously professional player. He never overplays a song. Hes always in the groove right where he needs to be. Nightwish has a plethora of songs in a similar vein like Ghost River. Maybe check out Yours is An Empty Hope. Also Planet Hell, Stargazers, 10th Man Down, Master Passion Greed.....
Definitely similarities with Devin Townsend. He often does orchestral and theatrical as well as has male and female vocals trading parts.
Btw Floor has done a song or two with Devin with her old band Revamp. Neurasthemia is really cool. Devin plays a sort of devil/demon in the song. th-cam.com/video/m0DaNBcrIMQ/w-d-xo.html
I am sure many others have asked for “Romanticide” Same concert 2013 Wacken
Like the play between vocalists and the theatrical, almost whimsical elements? Try Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean live.
Floor got the best voice control I have ever heard. You must check out Beste Sangers tv-shows. She can sing everything and make better version every time🥴.
With this one, it's definitely worth going back and listening to the album version with Annette as well. As awesome as the energy of this live version is (along with Floor's vocals, goes without saying), there are a lot of subtleties that you can't really hear in the live version. They get drowned out in the mix.
If you liked this one - check out Yours Is An Empty Hope (please do the Wembley version). I also would like to recommend you some others to hear more different "colours" from Nightwish:
Sahara - live at Tampa
Shudder Before The Beautiful - live at Wembley
My Walden - live at Tampere
Last Ride Of The Day - live at Wacken
Weak Fantasy - live at Tampere
Devil and the deep dark ocean dramatic fantastic
Just watch the whole show. :)
And Epica ft. Floor Jansen with Sancta Terra.
This is a repeat in case you missed it.You need to listen to Neurasthenia, a song by Revamp Floor's old band featuring Devin Townsend. Floor has been featured on other artists albums. Another one is "Orbit" with Evergrey. She has also done some songs for Ayreon (Arjen Anthony Lucassen)projects. "Song of Myself" is my favorite Nightwish song. At Wacken 2013.Thank you!
Slaying the dreamer is problem the closest thing i can think of that you are describing.
If you really want more of Floor's dancing, go an check out "I want my tears back" from Live at Buenos Aires 2018
I love this song, but personally I still prefer Storytime, but cannot fault you for loving this one. 😀
You could do 7 days to the wolves next :D
,Nope, when floor growls she didnt use a distortion, In her former band Revamp she growls a couple songs..
Because you said you like theatrical performences i do request "The Phantom of the Opera" by them. (It is with their first singer Tarja)
you will be surprised how many times Floor actually growls in songs.... not distortion but actual growling !!
Theatrical..."The Poet and the Pendulum" from London Wembley, very rare song and difficult for Tuomas to play as he decided to kill himself in a song than in the real-life...! Following the departure of Tarja, Tuomas was literally crucified. I think the band said it a number of times as if Floor leaves - that would be the end of Nightwish...Enjoy!
I think 'Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean' is theatrical too.
For theatrical, check out Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean, live in b Buenos Aires
still waiting till some1 will make reaction on full 1h 40 min Wacken live from 2013... Btw not sure if you checked this two already, but two songs were guitar is more pronounce in music than usually in Nightwish songs are from the old ones: wishmaster (which is live in decent quality only with Tarja, 1st singer) or Slaying the dreamer, you can check both Tarja and Floor versions.
Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars live rehearsal at Sonic Pump studio. Please and peace 🙏🏼😎✌🏼
are there more theatrical dramatic Nightwish songs? well, hmmm - How long you got?
Nightwish is ever evolving.. or really Tuomas writes the songs to suit the lead singer. none of these songs were written for Floor, she is just putting her flare on them and turning them up.. @ Wembley you'll see a change as he writes for Floor and you can just since that now he realizes he can write song lyrics from growls to outer space. The new Album is another complete change.. Very cool, but there are no live performances to watch, so you have to imagine what they will do with it in a live performances.
They're pretty much all very theatrical, lol. You'd probably enjoy everything from Imaginaerum. Trouble is, Floor hasn't sung it all. It was written when they had Anette Olzon, who wasn't quite as capable live.
OK, you're forgiven for wearing that hideous Evil Empire t-shirt, just never do it again (hopefully by now you know I'm kidding, wear whatever you like, not that you need my permission LOL). Another reactor I follow and I have become friends, but I like to kid him that he's painful to watch because he wears an Ohio State cap in every single video. We trade good-natured zingers, all in fun.
When I first heard this song, I couldn't get that damn chorus out of my head, especially the way their voices play off one another. Easily one of my favorite Nightwish songs as well. As far as the lyrics, thematically they remind me of Stephen King's "It" and Metallica's "Enter the Sandman," the way they talk about kids being drawn to their doom in the "Ghost River." Makes the song that even more eerie after you've read them. Since no one else has suggested it, I'll go with "7 Days to the Wolves." Very dramatic as well.
"7 Days to the Wolves": th-cam.com/video/XvsfwAPbWXc/w-d-xo.html
THEE Ohio State University? I have friends who are hard-core fans and alumni and they insist that it's THEE Ohio State University, not just Ohio State University. As for me, eh, who cares. LOL
Marco is a beast, has been since the start of 80's when Tarot was made, btw you should check them out :) (Tarot - wings of darkness) there is old (official)video from the 80's of that and the new one from 10 years ago about.
I go through phases where I have different favourites by them. I think you’ve only just scratched the surface so far.
Please watch Ever dream at waken open air 2013!
Devil & deep dark ocean Live Buenos Aires
Has anyone mentioned checking out Floor on the show Best Zengers, doing Phantom of the Opera?
Devin Townsend actually had Floor Jansen as a guest on the song "Pandemic" from his Deconstruction album. That song is absolutely bonkers, sounds like nightwish on REALLY heavy drugs, LOL
I'm going to suggest for you 'The Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean' - live at Buenos Aires 🤘 something very unique !
You need to listen to the new album (Human:Nature) There are a lot of harmonies with Floor, Marco and Troy (Multi instumentalist who you haven't seen yet).
It's very different but still Nightwish.
"Are there other Nightwish songs in this kind of theatrical style?"
Me: Gestures around broadly at literally every Nightwish song.
Seriously tho, you need to give The Greatest Show On Earth a listen as well as The Poet and the Pendulum.
Some background on The Poet and the Pendulum: Tuomas, the keyboardist and man who writes almost all of Nightwish's music and lyrics, fell into a very bad depression after a very bad falling out with the band's original vocalist, Tarja. The song is done in 5 parts, each a different feel from the others. In the song, Tuomas ends up killing himself. He's been cited in an interview saying that he did this in the song so he didn't have to in real life. It was a way for him to cope and reconcile with what happened. In the 5th part of the song, many of the lyrics are words his mother said to him during this time. It is one of the heaviest songs (emotionally) that I've ever heard. You can see Emppu (guitar) and Marko (bass) occasionally walk over to Tuomas during the performance in support. This song is rarely ever played, so when it is, it's a real treat for the fans. If you do react to this, the live version at Tempere is the one you want. There's another version that has the lyrics overlayed on the video. Either way, having the lyrics close at hand is necessary. And probably a box of tissues.
Great reactions. Keep them coming!
Similar style would be I Want My Tears Back, superior version would be Decades in Buenos Aires or Wembley Arena.
The Clock showed 2.13 in the background when you started watching it for the second time. When you had finished watching it again it showed 2.14.😅
Check out "Greatest Show on Earth" from the Tempere show. Epic! IMO the NIghtwish live recordings are much better than their studio album stuff. Also, "Poet and the Pendulum" is very dramatic.