The Presocratics and Republic 1, October 8 [second meeting]
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- This lecture is about the world's first scientific revolution [Ionian physics] and its cultural consequences. This new science destabilized the polis and demanded a new response that was intellectually respectable in this new context. Socrates and Plato and Aristotle took up the challenge of creating a new rational monotheism that modified all of the human sciences.
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Thank you, professor. Rest in peace.
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Read the Republic 10 times. I swear, I learn something new from it every time. BTW, looking strong and healthy, Professor. God bless.
Please tell how your understanding has evolved, Ty!
Grateful with your teaching. Very grateful.
A philosophy professor who dons a Laphroaig shirt, with the framed cover of Coltrane's Blue Train hanging on the wall, talking about Plato and presocratics. This is what I call quality education! Thanks! And cheers!
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Michael Sugrue is arguably one the most influential and accessible of 21st century Philosopher-Educators, and his lectures are certainly one of the great achievements of western culture.
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Yeah that jam it opens the older videos is crucial. it's quite mellifluous . A club banger. do you know that what it's called
Thanks again Mike, we are all very grateful for your time. Please take care and we look forward seeing you again next week 🙏🙏🙏
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Imagine Dr. Sugrue narrating the Republic audiobook
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I've watched for a few years now and I wish I had this channel 20 years ago, since I've never seen presentations so effectively condense years of reading philosophy. These days I recommend this channel to anyone who's getting started with philosophy
Even for those who aren't doing anything philosophy related should atleast listen to Prof. Sugrue's talks twice/thrice they'll get hooked up to it, i myself am doing my masters' in astrophysics yet I'm here rn at 3:35 am. & If you're observant, you'll see that mike teaches us a lot overall about our own humane psyche, the way he expresses his own thoughts vs actual facts, the way he delivers the specific point of his talk in each of his lectures etc. if i had to take one of his earlier lectures myself, 80% sure I wouldn't be able to analyze all these points in one go thank God for this channel and the constant uploads.
Your look better micheal.
Hope you are feeling well.
Thank you for your videos and lectures you are a an amazing soul and mind
I've known Dr Sugrue since the late 1980's
Still the best
@Michael sugrue i would love to here a lecture strictly on how to read a book
Your abilities to recall information is great
This guy is is awesome; If I may put it so colloquially .
As a survivor of religious abuse and literalism, I really appreciate you sharing the long tradition of questioning religious dogmatism. ‘1 question is worth more than ten answers’. I know we have never met but I love what you do and think you dwarf popular “intellectuals” like Jordan Peterson. I quote you daily. So keep up the great work! Stay enthusiastic! That’s my motto
I'm sure he would not have agreed with you about Jordan Petersen. Each was/is a specialist and expert in their field.
When we arrive at a wrong answer to a question, often that's the correct answer to a different question. I think Thrasymachus' assertion that justice is the advantage of the stronger, is on the basis that he believes justice and conflict to be the same thing. Peace is the advantage of the stronger.
2 * pi * r is the circumference of a circle. If you answer your math teacher with 3 * pi * r, they'll say WRONG. But the formula still calculates *something*, in this case, going 1.5x round a circle.
You may enjoy the book "Infinite powers" from Steven Strogatz, in which its shown that Archimedes was a precursor of Newton and Leibnitz by using an infinite number of infinitesimal slices of areas and volumes counterbalancing in an "imaginary scale" to calculate things. He used this method to guess the answer and then proceded to prove it by "proper means" because he didn't considered it rigorous. Newton and Leibnitz proved Archimedes intuition right inventing calculus.
Zeno asked, "if space is something, inside what it should be?" A Greek friend, Demetrios. Great professor Michael, many Greetings!
I’ve been studying up in the pre-Socratics over last couple of years and I find some of their theories interesting. While they came up with ideas that we would find comical today because we have centuries worth of science to work with; these guys were literally inventing science and technology more or less out of necessity. It shows that even thousands of years ago people had intelligent ideas but struggled to find ways to make their theories fact. We as a society need to encourage individuals to ask questions and look for answers to those questions without taking everything at face value or simply accepting a tradition at face value without weighing it against the weight of Socratic inquiry.
What a great man...
I feel like you are right here in the room. This is a fantastic format and I love every minute of it. Thank you so much Professor.
I'm not a PhD or formally educated on philosophy, so I can't describe it so eloquently, but I agree that Republic is one of the most important books in philosophy. Individuals may more highly value other texts, but Republic is so foundational to the realm of philosophy that you can't ignore it. Like how a quantum physicist couldn't deny the foundational importance of Newton. I like to read the writings of trailblazers in various fields, because seeing people trying to explain subjects without an established lexicon gives me a perspective that you can't get from working within established frameworks. I think in a lot of ways most of the "boom" in philosophy was from times where this was the case, most likely because there weren't any "rules" yet to limit people's thinking, so it's a good book to get people in the mindset of discovery, whether that's self-discovery or discovery of the external world
I just began to watch you on this.
I think you are right. Plato's Republic is the best book of all. I read for a few times. One of my greatest sorrows is that what he said is still applicable to our days.
His theory of form has become a social contract.
Their main argument had become public consent. And the astonishing definition of virtue. And above all Justice. yet he had played the sleight of hand. because the time was not right.
.I finished with this.
There are days that I contemplate that since the man had invented the wheel, he had been distracted by the noise.
I think of the experience of the time that no intentional sound had ever been made. Wow. I know the level of being supposed to be inferior to us, but with the enjoyment of one's existence, I can not begin to think what it is like to not be distracted by distractions from distraction! That is why the form is what it is.
The world is all that is the case. Form.
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Super grateful for these lectures. Thank you professor Sugrue. I hope you are feeling well.
Dr. Sugrue, in one of your videos these days, I’d love to hear your personal thoughts on what might serve as a better alternative to democracy.
I agree 100% on The Republic. Jist finished reading it
How rare and refreshing it is to hear a teacher say, let me tell you about this awesome thing
when the student is ready, the master shall appear. thanks professor. -cole
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I've actually started reading the Republic thabks to you dr. Sugrue! Thanks for the years of education!
Love that vase he swigs from
I was literally read Plato Republic 5 minutes ago! Coincidence 🤔 I think not !!! This will be a treat.
Thank you for your ongoing service to humanity Mike. It is greatly needed and appreciated.
Dr. Sugrue, thank you for positively impacting my philisophical journey
Brilliant preamble leading up to the republic.
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Laphroaig is my favorite. That is an absolutely wonderful shirt.
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Thanks! Always ask a better question!
Hello Professor,
I've been enjoying your lectures and teachings for some time now. I'm in education myself (much lower level than yourself, mind you), and everyday it feels like I'm Sisyphus.
Your teaching is one of the few things keeping me sane these days!
As a request, I'd love to hear an unplugged talk from yourself, Darren, and Peter on the current conflicts going on in the world and how they're shaping history. That is to say, the Ukrainian Conflict and the escalating war in Israel/Palestine. I know you've mentioned the Ukraine war in previous talks, albeit briefly. I think such a talk would be most intriguing.
Have a blessed day.
I am deeply grateful for the profound insights and knowledge I've gained from your TH-cam channel. Your philosophical teachings have been enlightening and enriching. However, I am intrigued by the absence of exploration into Islamic philosophy within your content. I believe integrating Islamic philosophical perspectives could further diversify and enhance the depth of philosophical discussions you provide. Thank you for the continuous inspiration and intellectual growth.
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Sophism: a reversion to "PPP, pure predatory parasitism"! Love it
Thank you Mr. Surgue. Timeless knowledge presented properly , thank you
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Professor I began reading philosophy a few years ago because of you. Im so thankful for your videos.
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Now I wonder what the good professor was drinking this time? Thank you for your work and time
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Never read it but excited to Learn. The English language is not my native one so it's great to be able to rewatch this over and over, excited for this journey Mr sugrue!
Pythagoras… the main presocratic influence, without a doubt
Looking strong prof. Sugrue🥂
Thanks for the lecture. It's good to review the "roos" from time to time #presocratics
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Hi Michael, long time viewer and fan and really enjoyed this lectures as with all your others. Was wondering what your thoughts were on blooms western canon and the opinions he has on the newer schools of literary theory as I know you studied under him at some point. Hope all is well!
I like to think of the Greeks turning the Goddess into a mathematized number, being the culmination of thought during that period, but perhaps also the fall into totalizing materialism.
So thankful for your wisdom sharing professor, I pray for your continued instruction, truly a privilege to know your work.
Thank you very much, Professor. It was very interesting as a talk. Keep them coming whenever you have the time.
Love the Laphroaig!
thank you Professor. i appreciate this course work more than I can say; in the written word at least ;)
Great lecture as always, professor. Please, take a look to your emails, I sent you an srt with the spanish subtitles for your video about Saint Augustine some time ago.
Great, I have been following you for years. You are a gift to many. Where do I find the lectures in this series? Thanks!
The Guru of Philosophy, Mr Sugrue, I have been listening to your enlightening lectures over the last few years, trying to understand philosophy emanating from the western civilization, encapsulating the real world we experience today. There are 2 lectures I am missing in your collection available on youtube, one was on the FORM idea of Plato, and the criticism of it, and there was another lecture given on Parmenides. They are no longer available on youtube, these were the lectures when you were very young and handsome, and was wearing a Khaki jacket. I hope you know which lectures i am talking about. Please upload them if you have them, because they are the Gem of GEMS. God Bless you.
Permenides' philosophy reminds me of Advaita Vedanta
Slàinte!
there's a sign near my neighborhood that says that. I feel insulted every time I have to read such a gross word.
"climbing the logical ladder to heaven" Outstanding! Ultimately Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were rationally grounded theists, battling contemporary pagan religious, mythical, and skeptical dogma.
Wat's the deal with the zoom links? Video posted to TH-cam 20 minutes after it is scheduled to start, who is invited, how do they get the invite in advance, etc...
GREAT POINT😊
Pretty sure the phone numbers listed are so you can get a text alert beforehand
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When the master appears, the student is out back smoking with the cool kids. Alas, alack
Great lecture. Is there a place to find a list of the extra readings?
I love how much he loves plato
RIP professor 😢😢😢
It’s a fascinating possibility that being is…
Oh no. I heard early today. He'll be missed. So he passed some time ago. Love to friends and family. Rip.
New higher concepts
Ah darn I missed the boat! Is there a schedule for the Plato classes?
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