Is anyone else thinking what I’m thinking? Financial troubles, missing passports, phones turned off, medication and food left behind, and a stressed out male family member could equal a terrible fate for the entire family.
Family annihilator was my first thought too. But if that's what happened, he was very careful about how he did it, considering that the family is still considered to be missing.
Agreed@@cubbi2789. Everything Dark Curiosities mentioned seems to point to that one outcome but where their bodies are I have no clue. If only the phones hadn’t been switched off and the data scrubbed. If he was looking up what I suspect he was he probably wanted to remove any traces of his plan. By the Tuatha de Dannan where are the bodies? Are they John and Jane Does somewhere in Germany, unidentified because of missing identification? I feel like Germany is the key but which part of Germany? Mecklenburg? Saxony? Brandenburg? Do we know which part of Germany their friends lived in?
True@@jacksonstarky8288. Then again the dad was said to be a tech wiz so he probably knew how to scrub out a web browser’s history. I need to ask my dad how complex the process is.
It sounds like the father killed his family and then went on the run. He set up a series of alibis that would (he hoped) explain the family’s absence, thus giving him time to get away. He might still be out there somewhere, but sadly, I think the rest of the family was murdered long ago.
This is my theory as well. Too many of the details add up to this scenario. I know if I went on vacation I would never leave my medication behind so the fact the son’s medication wasn’t taken raised an immediate red flag. Well that and the food.
Thank you for this episode, I was pretty surprised to find something about Bogdanski family on the non-Polish channel. Greetings from Poland, you did a great job as always❤
Father being alone in the house givng excuses on where his family is and painting the attic... The daughter's diary was left there. If she would run away for sure she would take it as a first thing. I'm just wondering how did he manage to hide the bodies so well?
Daddy-O is dirty. The wiped hard drives & financial woes tell me the father is involved. They are likely in the hereafter and I hope I am wrong. Thank you DC.
Quite the opposite- it was swept under the rug. This case is only remembered by those who become fascinated with true crime. If the father murdered his family inside the home, the police probably ruined their initial days of investigation and overlooked evidence of the crime. Gaining a new identity, hiding four bodies, and getting a new ID are challenging endeavors. However, it was easier to achieve that 20 years ago, before the rise of digital era. Early 2000s in Poland were quite dark times in terms of unresolved murders and disappearances. In 2003, one million zlotych was an unthinkably large sum of debt. If he is still alive, he is most likely in Western Europe, where he may even be posing as an immigrant from a country other than Poland.
At first I thought that maybe the family left together to start anew elsewhere.. until the sister and father turned up to the house and dad was visibly stressed and wouldn’t allow them inside the home. Unfortunately I believe he annihilated his family and then disappeared himself into obscurity or offed himself shortly after. It’s very peculiar that the family members bodies were never found and zero evidence of a crime happening at all. The other cases like Robert fisher and the DuPont case the family members were found.. very very strange.
It is SO Peculiar that none of 5 bodies were found that I'm inclined to believe that they got hew identities and just ran away to start a new life. It is MUCH Easier to acquire fake identity documents than Police would have you believe.
@@MikeBreen-v7f This case is NOTHING Like the List case because in that case they found all the bodies. You really can't call this a case of family annihilation if you can't even prove that ANYONE was annihilated.
this reminds me so much of the French family the Dupont de Ligonnès. they were killed by the father and he fled, I think he is still missing to this day. ok and looking until the end you mention it as well ;)
I truly think that Mr. Bogdanski killed his family and stayed to clean up. I think he probably killed them in the room he cleaned and repainted. Not sure if he is still alive or not. He may have killed himself or went on the fun but as far as his family they are most likely dead. Because those grandkids would have reached out to family after they became adults.
Such a great point. Why take all that time to clean everything up. Unless you are trying to make a getaway and don't want anyone to figure out what you have done. @@marion5198
They are likely all dead. It is difficult enough for one person to disappear and assume a new identity, let alone a whole family. If they left as a family, at the very least the boy would have had his asthma medication with him. If the father strangled or suffocated them it would be quiet and “clean.” During the many days that he was at home alone, he could have been somehow disposing of their bodies. If any of them are alive, it’s just him…like that American family killer John List.
Thank you for covering this case. I'm from Łódź and it's interesting to hear about Bogdańskis on a foreign channel, especially since there was not much covered about them in Polish media.
You'd think this case would've had more international coverage but it hasn't. For their families' sake, I hope the truth comes to light, and sooner rather than later.
There was a similar case in the USA. I can't remember whether is was in the 1950's or 60's. The man was financially strapped (he was an accountant). He had his mother and two kids living with him and his wife. The only difference was that he killed the whole family and took off.. They found him 20 years later living a quiet, "decent" life. They arrested him, and put him away.
This is my theory - the father lied about a trip, took the passports as a red herring, took his family away, killed them (medications left behind?) and went off on his own. Or he may have killed his family and then himself. All that debt is an awful escape motivator.
You can't really take much account of small amounts of blood. People do cut their fingers, have menstrual accidents, etc. I test for blood sugar and though I take care, sometimes a recent puncture will break open again. It's something to note, but in very small quantities indicative of nothing but living. That said, I believe the family is dead, possibly at the hands of the father.
Exactly, especially since there are a lot of things you do in the garage that can cause you to get hurt. The same as when renovating the house or taking care of the garden.
I don't want to accuse the father as it's entirely possible that he didn't do anything. This reminds me of the disappearance of the McStay family, and they were all victims. Just tragic all around.
I will accuse the father. He stayed alone in the house for several day. Why? Where was his family at the time? Why didn't he raise alarm that they're missing, rather than give conflicting stories where they all were? Innocent man doesn't do that. Either he knows where they all went (under fake identities), and then followed them himself, or more likely, he killed them all and vanished himself under assumed name. My money is on the last hypothesis.
....................the truth will out..............eventually! If you have X amount of people and all but 1 disappears, the question sort of answers itself?
Seems to me that the man of the house was having problems keeping food on the table, so he eliminated a few of the mouths that needed feeding, he either moved to a different country and changed his name or went into the forest alone and ate a bullet, regardless of his end he most likely "lightened the load" when it comes to the family.
Imo, the family, less the dad, are at the bottom of a fairly large body of water or buried in some remote wooded area somewhere. As for the father, he either went on the run or later off'd himself in a separate location. My first guess would be that he went on the run, although the length of time he's been missing with no trace gives me considerable pause in that opinion. In any case, it's almost certain that foul play was involved. It's atypical for individuals, let alone whole families, to drop off the face of the earth (especially for 20 years! 😳) with no apparent hint as to what happened to them. How tragically heartbreaking! 💔😭
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@@johndennisespinola probably. Some people who get kidnapped no longer surface again. And so it’s left up to our imagination as to what happened to them.
Ok first of all they were living above their means,then still trying to live that lavish life style when he knew he couldn't Afford to.this reminds me of the John List case,that should sum it up.
Wow! Well done Poland on what I think have to be the BEST and most REALISTIC age-progression photos I've EVER seen! Obviously, (duh! 😂) I'm not harbouring the family so I can't say for absolute certainty of how accurate they are... But usually age-progression photos are generally cartoon looking, and probably hinder the investigation (imo) rather than help. The least realistic one I felt, was of the daughter, in the sense of, you can tell it had been edited, something about the nose - mouth area seemed unrealistic, but the others are incredible! Particularly the Mother. (wife) Interesting case regardless, beautifully narrated as always, and your foreign pronunciations are getting ridiculously impressive at this point too, well done! It's so respectful and professional of you to take the trouble to learn how to pronounce so many languages correctly. My daughter is married to a son of a Polish man, so her surname is Polish. That doesn't make me an expert btw, even my son in law is not an expert! 😂 Actually nor is his Father as far as I'm aware! 🙄 Their surname is Jurczynski, pronounced YOO TRINCE KEY. One Polish tradition I think is sweet, is that Jurczynski is their married family surname, (Mr & Mrs Jurczynski, or The Jurczynski Family) and is also her husband's and four son's surname in their own right. BUT, in documents concerning my daughter and their only daughter on their own, their surname is Jurczynska, pronounced YOO TRINCE CAR. Polish males end in "i" and females end in "a". I think that's cute! I guess similar to the French using masculine or feminine words...although I've still never figured out how a book or chair or table have genders! 😳 😂😂😂 (To be clear...NOT the age-progression photos towards the end of the video! 😮 Yeah, they are about as good as a chocolate teapot and the more typical photos seen in these cases! 😂)
They really should be checking all water.areas...lakes. But if he had access to a boat..he could have possibly taken them all.out to sea. Caves also should be an option...or even a very hidden bunker..
That's another weird thing, people feel a little too comfortable with over sharing their life with me. Really personal stuff that i really don't want to know.
14:00 Always pay attention to those gut feelings - esp given his aggressive reaction. He could have borrowed money from the wrong people. Sounds like authorities did too little too late. For all we know, they didnt want it solved.
Comes to mind that he killed Her Mother, and ran away with the rest of the family. Maybe She even died by accident. Probably the Mother was aggainst escaping, as the oldest person and with a rather characteristic appearance (right eye), She was also the greatest threat when hiding. He had taken too much time and effort to hide the traces of his plans, if he planned to kill everyone, including himself - he didnt have to take any of these steps. One interesting thing: they had debts, but the house + land which they left behind, exactly one year after these events, rapidly increased in value, this was related to Polands accession to the UN, when real estate prices in Poland skyrocketed. In my opinion he knew about it. DC, thank You for the case from Poland.
It really seems like the dad killed the family and then disappeared on his own. There is a term for this unfortunately: family annihilators. It’s usually triggered by economic issues and the dad being a psycho who couldn’t cope with losing their socioeconomic status.
If they were borrowing money here, there, and everywhere, I'm sure people already knew they were struggling. Also why the big coverup? If you're all dead who cares what other people think. And if dad is still alive the law is probably still on the look out for him. Just an odd case.
I'm just amazed that they would ask family for money to get by because they didn't want to give up any part of their lifestyle. I would tell someone like that to get a hold of themselves and pick their needs over their wants. I can't believe the amount of rude in some people, and I'd bet that the rest of the family wasn't living so high on the hog either. They would get a big fat NO along with some other words, but they wouldn't get a single dime from me. They could live in their new car and eat their expensive junk. I've honestly never heard of anyone even thinking to ask such a barbaric thing. He obviously was really bad at investing and should have stopped while he still had his head above water. 3 generations living in one house would probably cause me to kick the other 2 generations to the curb. I couldn't stand that much family or anyone living with me. Maybe mooching is a common practice over there I suppose that's why they had no shame in asking for money because they couldn't give up their money for the necessary things in life the things you need to live they just wanted people to see money when they looked at them. Start missing meals, and people will have something to look at, their skeletons.
Yeah family anihalaters seem to occur with financial collapse,I believe the family are dead and Kristov is living the high life overseas in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with Poland 😢😢😢😢
Someone might have enticed then away somewhere and then murdered them if a struggle happened in the house i feel evidence of some sort would have been found but its as if they magically disappeared so the most likely outcome is that they were elsewhere and murdered and then their bodies were disposed of
Classic family annihilator. Some or all were lured to the attic & killed. I might believe they were alive if it weren't for medications & favorite items being left behind. Research into the psychology of family annihilators shows that they are often failing at their perceived duty to take care of their family "properly," so they kill them & start over. Some think that some of them possibly think they're putting people out of their misery. I personally believe they're embarrassed & angry & just want to selfishly start with a clean slate.
Very confused about how much time passed between the phone call and the sister actually going to the house?? A week before Easter (day of call) would've been the 13th... but you said the house visit was the 11th. That's negative 2 days 🙃😒
They've gotten away clean, which may be a good thing for a family that was dragged into something they didn't expect. I won't give away the clues I heard because the remaining family that are alive deserve to be protected. If the daughter's diary can be de-coded then there may be some understanding of this case. She's not that ditsy, she's her father's daughter. The adults in the family got involved with the wrong people trying to maintain their lifestyle and those people took it too far. The father got his family out quickly and stayed behind as a decoy until all were safe. He shooed away relatives to keep them safe also and to put any blame on himself afterwards. Then, he got out, maybe safe, maybe not. He cleaned up the mess and did a crackerjack job of it to protect those he loves! What he did would not be possible now because there's too much Big Brother in the Internet, so they are lucky. I wish them well.
@@gary-rr7jp possibly. There are other things that go through that part of the world as well but drugs are a huge possibility. Especially with his knowledge of the Internet. I'm not pursuing it further because if I'm right, I don't want them found. If I'm wrong, I pray that they are found and justice catches up.
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Is anyone else thinking what I’m thinking? Financial troubles, missing passports, phones turned off, medication and food left behind, and a stressed out male family member could equal a terrible fate for the entire family.
I was thinking it the minute he was mentioned being alone in the house. He could have also willingly disappeared, but is also unlikely.
Family annihilator was my first thought too. But if that's what happened, he was very careful about how he did it, considering that the family is still considered to be missing.
It's certainly happened before..
Agreed@@cubbi2789. Everything Dark Curiosities mentioned seems to point to that one outcome but where their bodies are I have no clue. If only the phones hadn’t been switched off and the data scrubbed. If he was looking up what I suspect he was he probably wanted to remove any traces of his plan. By the Tuatha de Dannan where are the bodies? Are they John and Jane Does somewhere in Germany, unidentified because of missing identification? I feel like Germany is the key but which part of Germany? Mecklenburg? Saxony? Brandenburg? Do we know which part of Germany their friends lived in?
True@@jacksonstarky8288. Then again the dad was said to be a tech wiz so he probably knew how to scrub out a web browser’s history. I need to ask my dad how complex the process is.
It sounds like the father killed his family and then went on the run. He set up a series of alibis that would (he hoped) explain the family’s absence, thus giving him time to get away. He might still be out there somewhere, but sadly, I think the rest of the family was murdered long ago.
This is my theory as well. Too many of the details add up to this scenario. I know if I went on vacation I would never leave my medication behind so the fact the son’s medication wasn’t taken raised an immediate red flag. Well that and the food.
The 'father' was a fugit!
@@barneyronnie exactly.
Oh he’s definitely still in Poland or Germany. Family Annihilators don’t kill themselves, they don’t have the balls to do that.
Quite plausible, wouldn't be the first time a husband/father has done this.
Thank you for this episode, I was pretty surprised to find something about Bogdanski family on the non-Polish channel. Greetings from Poland, you did a great job as always❤
Thank you 💙
Thank you so much for sharing this fascinating story
Father being alone in the house givng excuses on where his family is and painting the attic... The daughter's diary was left there. If she would run away for sure she would take it as a first thing. I'm just wondering how did he manage to hide the bodies so well?
Probably hide them in a forest. He was definitely hiding something.
He probably didn’t even hide them very well, Polish police just didn’t do a thorough investigation.
Not just the diary, they would have taken their medications with them.
I hope I'm wrong, but every bit of this story is screaming "family annihilator" to me
Daddy-O is dirty. The wiped hard drives & financial woes tell me the father is involved. They are likely in the hereafter and I hope I am wrong. Thank you DC.
Thank you from Warsaw, Poland. This is one of the most interesting and most talked about dissappearances in Poland.
Quite the opposite- it was swept under the rug. This case is only remembered by those who become fascinated with true crime. If the father murdered his family inside the home, the police probably ruined their initial days of investigation and overlooked evidence of the crime. Gaining a new identity, hiding four bodies, and getting a new ID are challenging endeavors. However, it was easier to achieve that 20 years ago, before the rise of digital era. Early 2000s in Poland were quite dark times in terms of unresolved murders and disappearances. In 2003, one million zlotych was an unthinkably large sum of debt. If he is still alive, he is most likely in Western Europe, where he may even be posing as an immigrant from a country other than Poland.
@@magdam8290 I wrote now, not recently afther it happened...I am from Poland and I hear and see about the case very week somewhere.
@@mb123tdt hear where? On youtube crime channels? Sure. But not anymore in the mainstream media, it happened 20 years ago.
This smacks of JOHN LIST
You should come visit Oakland if you want more of this in your life
At first I thought that maybe the family left together to start anew elsewhere.. until the sister and father turned up to the house and dad was visibly stressed and wouldn’t allow them inside the home. Unfortunately I believe he annihilated his family and then disappeared himself into obscurity or offed himself shortly after. It’s very peculiar that the family members bodies were never found and zero evidence of a crime happening at all. The other cases like Robert fisher and the DuPont case the family members were found.. very very strange.
It is SO Peculiar that none of 5 bodies were found that I'm inclined to believe that they got hew identities and just ran away to start a new life.
It is MUCH Easier to acquire fake identity documents than Police would have you believe.
Check out the List family.
@@MikeBreen-v7f Another unusual family disappearance that super interesting is the Jack family. That one really gets under my skin.
‘Annihilated’ is an interesting word to use
@@MikeBreen-v7f This case is NOTHING Like the List case because in that case they found all the bodies. You really can't call this a case of family annihilation if you can't even prove that ANYONE was annihilated.
this reminds me so much of the French family the Dupont de Ligonnès. they were killed by the father and he fled, I think he is still missing to this day. ok and looking until the end you mention it as well ;)
I truly think that Mr. Bogdanski killed his family and stayed to clean up. I think he probably killed them in the room he cleaned and repainted. Not sure if he is still alive or not. He may have killed himself or went on the fun but as far as his family they are most likely dead. Because those grandkids would have reached out to family after they became adults.
If he was to kill himself too no point of cleaning and renovating I suppose.
Such a great point. Why take all that time to clean everything up. Unless you are trying to make a getaway and don't want anyone to figure out what you have done. @@marion5198
I commend you for your Polish pronunciations!
They're pretty tough!🤗👍🏻
Thank you 🥰
I agree- ż is very difficult to pronounce.
@@bozena6526 Just put a "ski" on the end of everything, and you should be good. 😅
@@loveforeignaccents 🤣When my grands came to America, they changed their ending ska to ski.
It sounds like dear old dad is an ODB and annihilated the family, has been super careful to cover his tracks and somehow hid/disposed of the bodies.
They are likely all dead. It is difficult enough for one person to disappear and assume a new identity, let alone a whole family. If they left as a family, at the very least the boy would have had his asthma medication with him. If the father strangled or suffocated them it would be quiet and “clean.” During the many days that he was at home alone, he could have been somehow disposing of their bodies. If any of them are alive, it’s just him…like that American family killer John List.
Unsolved cases are always unsettling. We can all take a guess at what happened, but none of us really know. 💔
Always good to hear about clases from countries that aren't covered much elsewhere
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Thank you for covering this case. I'm from Łódź and it's interesting to hear about Bogdańskis on a foreign channel, especially since there was not much covered about them in Polish media.
You'd think this case would've had more international coverage but it hasn't. For their families' sake, I hope the truth comes to light, and sooner rather than later.
I’m polish and never heard of this case. Fascinating
Same here, although it turns out that there is a lot about this case on the Internet.
I was in poland for a layover and now i am shook that i was there in a country where a murder has happened.
@@sew_gal7340 Are you dumb? Murders have happened in literally every country.
Maybe is all made up by a ghostwriter.
There was a similar case in the USA. I can't remember whether is was in the 1950's or 60's. The man was financially strapped (he was an accountant). He had his mother and two kids living with him and his wife. The only difference was that he killed the whole family and took off.. They found him 20 years later living a quiet, "decent" life. They arrested him, and put him away.
John List comes to mind.
This is my theory - the father lied about a trip, took the passports as a red herring, took his family away, killed them (medications left behind?) and went off on his own. Or he may have killed his family and then himself. All that debt is an awful escape motivator.
You can't really take much account of small amounts of blood. People do cut their fingers, have menstrual accidents, etc. I test for blood sugar and though I take care, sometimes a recent puncture will break open again. It's something to note, but in very small quantities indicative of nothing but living. That said, I believe the family is dead, possibly at the hands of the father.
also one of them had a stroke. Some of the medicine that you take for heart attacks/strokes will make you bleed a lot.
Exactly, especially since there are a lot of things you do in the garage that can cause you to get hurt.
The same as when renovating the house or taking care of the garden.
Painting the attic...I'd start looking there.
They investigated
@@JulieRushworthdid they tear down the walls
I don't want to accuse the father as it's entirely possible that he didn't do anything. This reminds me of the disappearance of the McStay family, and they were all victims. Just tragic all around.
Yeah, it's best not to jump to conclusions. Innocent until proven guilty is an important principle.
Ok. Then, I'll accuse him!
@@barneyronnie It's possible he and others were collectively murdered by someone else.
I will accuse the father. He stayed alone in the house for several day. Why? Where was his family at the time? Why didn't he raise alarm that they're missing, rather than give conflicting stories where they all were? Innocent man doesn't do that. Either he knows where they all went (under fake identities), and then followed them himself, or more likely, he killed them all and vanished himself under assumed name. My money is on the last hypothesis.
Weren’t they murdered by the business partner?
Thanks for the story. Really appreciate the effort you put into these videos. Job well done. Keep up the good work ✌️❤
Sounds like a family annihilation by the father to me.
Thanks so much, great channel!
Jeez it’s obvious by 4 minutes in that he’s a family annihilator and took off after murdering his family.
Thank you DC🙏🏼💔🕊️🦌
I feel so much better today, listening to you all. Many thanks
I really appreciate how informative your videos are, and I think you have a very lovely voice.
Sounds like another male freak-out, Dad Bogdanski unaliving himself and taking his whole family with him
But why go to all the trouble of hiding all the evidence? If they're all dead no one is going to prison.
Nah he unalived all of them, but not himself imo... On the run...
@@C-Here True, he's probably enjoying life in Spain or somewhere with his new, unknowing, family
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It wouldn't be the 1st time either- several men have been found after many years! 😢
This is a very interesting case indeed. When a whole family goes missing its really baffling that's for sure. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Why paint the attic? I would be dismantling that whole attic
Distraction
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@@nancyholcombe8030 could be
I hope they checked behind the boards and walls in the attic.
Very interesting case. Thanks!
Narcissistic Family Annihilator. That poor family
Interesting channel. Live long and prosper.🖖
....................the truth will out..............eventually!
If you have X amount of people and all but 1 disappears, the question sort of answers itself?
Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès remains missing, there is no known evidence of suicide
I never believed he committed suicide… especially with how carefully he hid their bodies.
Seems to me that the man of the house was having problems keeping food on the table, so he eliminated a few of the mouths that needed feeding, he either moved to a different country and changed his name or went into the forest alone and ate a bullet, regardless of his end he most likely "lightened the load" when it comes to the family.
Our German Shepherd is terrified of thunder. I sit up with her on the couch until it stops
He killed everyone and vanished. This happened with American John List. He killed his mother, wife, and kids and then disappeared.
Imo, the family, less the dad, are at the bottom of a fairly large body of water or buried in some remote wooded area somewhere. As for the father, he either went on the run or later off'd himself in a separate location. My first guess would be that he went on the run, although the length of time he's been missing with no trace gives me considerable pause in that opinion.
In any case, it's almost certain that foul play was involved. It's atypical for individuals, let alone whole families, to drop off the face of the earth (especially for 20 years! 😳) with no apparent hint as to what happened to them. How tragically heartbreaking! 💔😭
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What is the probability of them being alive in 2023?
Slim to none. No matter what the details of cases are, the chances of them being alive in this year are always slim to none.
@@kokuhakuqiun4215 Most likely someone they knew and trusted kidnapped and killed them all. 😥
@@johndennisespinola probably. Some people who get kidnapped no longer surface again. And so it’s left up to our imagination as to what happened to them.
Realistically? 0%. As I heard the first 48 hours are critical in finding missing people and it’s been 20 years so I doubt they are still around.
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Yup this screams murder suicide
Why would he paint the attic???
He got tired of beige.
Exactly.
Ok first of all they were living above their means,then still trying to live that lavish life style when he knew he couldn't Afford to.this reminds me of the John List case,that should sum it up.
I bet the mom knows.
Wow! Well done Poland on what I think have to be the BEST and most REALISTIC age-progression photos I've EVER seen!
Obviously, (duh! 😂) I'm not harbouring the family so I can't say for absolute certainty of how accurate they are... But usually age-progression photos are generally cartoon looking, and probably hinder the investigation (imo) rather than help.
The least realistic one I felt, was of the daughter, in the sense of, you can tell it had been edited, something about the nose - mouth area seemed unrealistic, but the others are incredible! Particularly the Mother. (wife)
Interesting case regardless, beautifully narrated as always, and your foreign pronunciations are getting ridiculously impressive at this point too, well done! It's so respectful and professional of you to take the trouble to learn how to pronounce so many languages correctly.
My daughter is married to a son of a Polish man, so her surname is Polish. That doesn't make me an expert btw, even my son in law is not an expert! 😂 Actually nor is his Father as far as I'm aware! 🙄
Their surname is Jurczynski, pronounced YOO TRINCE KEY.
One Polish tradition I think is sweet, is that Jurczynski is their married family surname, (Mr & Mrs Jurczynski, or The Jurczynski Family) and is also her husband's and four son's surname in their own right.
BUT, in documents concerning my daughter and their only daughter on their own, their surname is Jurczynska, pronounced YOO TRINCE CAR.
Polish males end in "i" and females end in "a". I think that's cute!
I guess similar to the French using masculine or feminine words...although I've still never figured out how a book or chair or table have genders! 😳
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(To be clear...NOT the age-progression photos towards the end of the video! 😮 Yeah, they are about as good as a chocolate teapot and the more typical photos seen in these cases! 😂)
They really should be checking all water.areas...lakes. But if he had access to a boat..he could have possibly taken them all.out to sea. Caves also should be an option...or even a very hidden bunker..
That's another weird thing, people feel a little too comfortable with over sharing their life with me. Really personal stuff that i really don't want to know.
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This reminds me of Dupont de Ligonnès case
14:00 Always pay attention to those gut feelings - esp given his aggressive reaction. He could have borrowed money from the wrong people. Sounds like authorities did too little too late. For all we know, they didnt want it solved.
Exactly my thoughts. Ther's a lot of Red flag and they just dismissed it SMH
Comes to mind that he killed Her Mother, and ran away with the rest of the family. Maybe She even died by accident.
Probably the Mother was aggainst escaping, as the oldest person and with a rather characteristic appearance (right eye), She was also the greatest threat when hiding.
He had taken too much time and effort to hide the traces of his plans, if he planned to kill everyone, including himself - he didnt have to take any of these steps.
One interesting thing: they had debts, but the house + land which they left behind, exactly one year after these events, rapidly increased in value, this was related to Polands accession to the UN, when real estate prices in Poland skyrocketed. In my opinion he knew about it.
DC, thank You for the case from Poland.
Sounds like a family anihilator
It really seems like the dad killed the family and then disappeared on his own. There is a term for this unfortunately: family annihilators. It’s usually triggered by economic issues and the dad being a psycho who couldn’t cope with losing their socioeconomic status.
If they were borrowing money here, there, and everywhere, I'm sure people already knew they were struggling. Also why the big coverup? If you're all dead who cares what other people think. And if dad is still alive the law is probably still on the look out for him. Just an odd case.
Oh they are dead, it totally reminded me of the duponts. And that isn't the first time this has occurred
Yep it’s common especially in potentially volatile situations…. It doesn’t take much to push someone into that path.
Hope, wherever they are, they have managed to hide themselves and are living a peaceful life
I'm just amazed that they would ask family for money to get by because they didn't want to give up any part of their lifestyle. I would tell someone like that to get a hold of themselves and pick their needs over their wants. I can't believe the amount of rude in some people, and I'd bet that the rest of the family wasn't living so high on the hog either. They would get a big fat NO along with some other words, but they wouldn't get a single dime from me. They could live in their new car and eat their expensive junk. I've honestly never heard of anyone even thinking to ask such a barbaric thing. He obviously was really bad at investing and should have stopped while he still had his head above water. 3 generations living in one house would probably cause me to kick the other 2 generations to the curb. I couldn't stand that much family or anyone living with me. Maybe mooching is a common practice over there I suppose that's why they had no shame in asking for money because they couldn't give up their money for the necessary things in life the things you need to live they just wanted people to see money when they looked at them. Start missing meals, and people will have something to look at, their skeletons.
Well weird.
I am sure he killed them and moved on because the owners of the credits were catching up..
Wherever they are, May they be found.
behind a false wall in the attic i guess
Check the waters 😢🥺
Another family annihilator😢
Yeah family anihalaters seem to occur with financial collapse,I believe the family are dead and Kristov is living the high life overseas in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with Poland 😢😢😢😢
Ordinary families dont have debts of a quarter million euros
Dad did it I am 100% certain
This is so sus
I grew up with the Czech pronunciation of Bozena, hearing the Polish pronunciation drives me nuts.
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Perhaps they did manage to make a clean getaway, and are missing because that's exactly what they want.
Someone might have enticed then away somewhere and then murdered them if a struggle happened in the house i feel evidence of some sort would have been found but its as if they magically disappeared so the most likely outcome is that they were elsewhere and murdered and then their bodies were disposed of
John List anyone!!!
Did police check the attic? Seems like he killed everyone and then himself..
In the video it said cadaver dogs were deployed.
Classic family annihilator. Some or all were lured to the attic & killed. I might believe they were alive if it weren't for medications & favorite items being left behind. Research into the psychology of family annihilators shows that they are often failing at their perceived duty to take care of their family "properly," so they kill them & start over. Some think that some of them possibly think they're putting people out of their misery. I personally believe they're embarrassed & angry & just want to selfishly start with a clean slate.
Very confused about how much time passed between the phone call and the sister actually going to the house?? A week before Easter (day of call) would've been the 13th... but you said the house visit was the 11th. That's negative 2 days 🙃😒
They are all dead.
It sounds like they deliberately left.
Both sister have the same first name? Isn’t that a bit odd? This poor family… After all this time and they have not been found… 😢
Daughter and sister of the mother (in other words the girl's aunt) have the same name.
Wow, seems like they may have driven into the ocean or something along the lines. 😢😢😢.
I think they have escaped. In 2003 it was much easier. There is no evidence of murder.
They've gotten away clean, which may be a good thing for a family that was dragged into something they didn't expect. I won't give away the clues I heard because the remaining family that are alive deserve to be protected. If the daughter's diary can be de-coded then there may be some understanding of this case. She's not that ditsy, she's her father's daughter. The adults in the family got involved with the wrong people trying to maintain their lifestyle and those people took it too far. The father got his family out quickly and stayed behind as a decoy until all were safe. He shooed away relatives to keep them safe also and to put any blame on himself afterwards. Then, he got out, maybe safe, maybe not. He cleaned up the mess and did a crackerjack job of it to protect those he loves! What he did would not be possible now because there's too much Big Brother in the Internet, so they are lucky. I wish them well.
Drugs - it's always drugs.
@@gary-rr7jp possibly. There are other things that go through that part of the world as well but drugs are a huge possibility. Especially with his knowledge of the Internet. I'm not pursuing it further because if I'm right, I don't want them found. If I'm wrong, I pray that they are found and justice catches up.
Idk but I think the lady in the thumbnail all the way to the right ate them
Have they checked Israel?
He murdered them, cremated them and mixed them into the attic paint
The way You butcher polish names is insulting. Next time use google translate.
We did.
Dude nobody can pronounce polish words
Funny polish speaking folk have commended translation.
I think her pronunciations were commendable given the difficulty & her possibly not speaking Polish.
@@stacyrussell460with a Scottish accent ,Dundee maybe??
He killed them all..that's why he was so jumpy...and left with a new identity
JON LIST CASE
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Never a good or bad result from these videos
Unfulfilled answers and always open to speculation 😂