Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1.4 - Memento Mori
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Sean, not to knock anything, but there was something you gave a down to that I disagree with. You gave a down to the Starfleet officer giggling at the other's being startled by the dog. I can tell you from firsthand experience, clearing a room with weapons out and very much on guard looking for threats, I had a situation where I was doing the very same thing, and someone got startled by a life-sized cardboard cutout of a character in a shopping mall. The person was startled thinking it was a burglar and there were a few giggles. But then you get over it, move on with your game face. And when it's all over, we laugh about it. When you're dealing with intense stress, you have to find humor in things, it's how you cope. I found that part to be very realistic as I've lived it. And in the episode, guy was startled, someone giggled, and they moved on. I found it to be realistic. You can't be distracted; you have to be focused.
You nailed it. Have done room-clearing on multiple occasions, and this was basically spot on, or as much as it could be within the ST universe. This is how these things happen. Can't go with Sean on this one.
I second this! 😂
That's what happening when someone give opinion base only by his thoughts not by experience
I agree with Blue...👍🏼
I totally agree. I thought this was actually well done and a very “real” moment.
That scene where Captain Pike thinks Uhura and Hemmer are dead worked so well for me. Not because of tension around whether they lived or not, but because of Anson Mount's amazingly genuine performance. Seriously he's quickly becoming one of my favorite captains.
We knew Uhura would be okay, but we weren't completely sure about Hemmer.
We knew they would be fine, but I still welled up a little seeing Pike's reaction and relief just as he's about to give an order. Anson Mount's acting is amazing.
Every single time Uhura is on I cringe. She is truly one of the worst actresses ever. And Ortega with her little quips? If an officer on the bridge did that all the time she would be kicked off. Being on the bridge is not like being in the high school cafeteria. And that engineer? Whose idea was that? He is a cartoonish jerk. And this series had so much potential.
I think Anson Mount deserves an up because you can see that he feels every loss, and that while he's thinking tactically, you can see how much he hates giving the order to close those bulkheads. That to me, is what a true captain is supposed to be. I think Captain Pike could actually become my favorite captain, Sisko still has him beat, but those moments of humanity are making him a close second.
that sigh of relief at the end when he learned about the whereabouts of those crewmembers it just hit me to the core
It also really falls in line with what was established about his character the pilot, in that the burdens of choosing who lives and dies weighs very heavily on Pike’s soul.
He is such an excellent actor.
SEE? HE is much LIKE Hunter's Pike! Takes every loss personally, and is FULL of self doubt! Hunter's Pike had a lot of self doubt!
Absolutely agree. His acting is so on point in this episode. I love the very subtle interactions, oftentimes silent, with his bridge crew in this episode. Especially Ortegas.
The humor is like when Odo asked Garak, "You'd shoot a man in the back?" and without missing a beat, Garak responds, "Well it's the safest way".
Everything Garak says is brilliant. I also love when comments on the boy who cried wolf.
@@MrTbk1701 never tell the same lie twice
Garak, plain and simple
@@stipe3124 Garak, simple Tailor.
Or sew it would seam...
@@tetravega567 And very good tailor, with just a few more skils than all other tailors 😁🤔
This episode is all about submarine culture and combat. The Puget Sound area of the Pacific North West is home to many Submarines and submariners. The tracking of the enemy ships was strait up a Sonar tracking analog. The crushing of the hull is always a risk when diving deep to avoid enemy vessels. Even to the seemingly unimportant reference to filters, was very relevant to folks who work on submarines. A very cool episode, I absolutely loved it!
I agree... they called it radar, but wasn't it actually sonar?
Formerly stationed in Bremerton, Puget Sound Area, I second your comment 😊
it does remind me of a futurama episode. to paraphrase; "how much atmospheres of pressure can the hull take?" - "well, this is a spaceship, so one"
@@darmal8770 it had the familiar "ping" noise and other "submarine vibes", but "SOund Navigation And Ranging" doesn't work in the vacuum of space. Nor was it a radar either, as it didn't work with sending out radiowaves, but with certain sensors automatically picking up oscilliating gas turbulences something something. What we got, as far as I remember, was just Pike saying to Spock something like "you turned a compass into a radar", which makes sense, but strictly speaking the Enterprises navigational systems have nothing to do with a compass, nor did Spock's modification to the navigational scanners have much to do with radar/sonar ...apart from the really cool display and the "ping" noise.
I came here to say the same thing. The whole episode reminded me of “RUN SILENT RUN DEEP”
Strange New Words is the Trek I’ve been craving for the last 20 years. Don’t get me wrong I love lower decks and prodigy and Picard had its moments but SNW just really hits the spot in the way the others could not.
Absolutely! I actually felt a little relaxed watching this episode that Trek was going to survive and be ok
I couldn't agree more. You hit the nail on the head.
I had a massive issue with Prodigy in the first two episodes and it was niggling through my brain throughout the rest of the season. The first two episodes were to me, Star Wars. It isn't until they were visiting planets that I got a Star Trek vibe from it.
Really love Prodigy
@@vapoet I agree
On Up number 5, I really like there is a point where Ortegas is freaking out and Pike doesn't say a word. He looks at La'an and lets her do her job as Acting XO.
Little nitpick, Kyle is not a Lt. He's a non-com Transporter Chief like Chief O'Brien or the various other Kyles in TOS/TAS
Pike: “Yes, let’s take the ship down to crushable depths! Thanks Spock!”
Spock: “That is not what I suggested.”
A scene which illustrates how neither actor is that memorable. Except Pike's very high hair.
“The Aenar believe the end only comes once you have fulfilled your purpose.”
“What was your purpose?”
“To fix what is broken.”
That gives me *all the feels!*
It's a great bit of dialog. The episode has a few scenes that hit you in the feels.
My father passed away quite recently. The last conversation I had with him was quite normal, we made small talk, he asked if I was watching any good TV. I mentioned there was a new Star Trek. It was literally one of the last things I said to him.
My father was a handyman. He was always working on one more thing around the house. The hood was still open on his old 1930's Ford he was slowly fixing up because he was going to get back to it to install a water pump when he had the energy.
That line hit me so hard. I just can't even explain.
The death of the crew member was more than your typical redshirt demise. We didn't know his name but we saw him dying heroically while saving another's life. Thanks for the review.
Not only that but they actually took the two seconds to introduce him earlier in the episode to make a tiny story arc.
I was kinda hoping that would be Uhura. The show would improve dramatically.
@@trhansen3244 Well, I guess everyone is entitled to their bizarre opinion. Personally, I don't see why the show needed James Kirk and I'm happy to consider this an alt-universe so they can kill him off.
@@zainabamadahy9918 I haven't gotten there yet but obviously James Kirk should not be on this show. Neither should Sam '70s Porn Star' Kirk. Or M'Benga. Or Chapel. Or Ortega. Or that British security chick. They basically got rid of every character from The Cage except two. Wow, what a throwback!
I get the clicking. The sounds we have had before where a lone Gorn acting in an intimidating manner to a mammal enemy. We never heard them "talking" to each other. Also Gorn could also be using it as code on the hunt like the lights
Yeah, I was going to say. The sounds in Area could just as well not be how they talk for all we know.
@@GPsarakis yeah it could be like their basal sounds they made prior to developing a Language
Hey as SOON as I heard the clicking from that girl, I'd guessed it WAS the Gorn straight away! It SOUNDS reptilian! Snakes click vocally as well as hissing!
I think it's the sound the hatchlings make, not the adults; like alligators on Earth. It was the hatchlings hunting them for food.
@@avrahamishshalom1799 but hatchlings usually only hunt things their own size like insects or small fish not something the size of adults so assuming that it is similar for the gorn as earth crocs and alligators the hatchlings wouldn't have been hunting the colonists who are roughly equal in size to adult gorn maybe slightly smaller
Up to Ethan Peck for his stoic “I’m not crying. You’re crying.” Look to La’An during the mind meld. I felt Spock’s loss in my guts. Love your vids.
It was also a great opportunity for La'An to be vulnerable while not being afraid. That brief moment when she felt Spock's pain and empathized with him from having known that kind of grief.
I loved that too
This show continues to impress. This episode was the best one yet.
The giggle about the dog was great. It felt so real. The guy didn’t laugh at the other guy, he laughed because that bit of unexpected humor released tension. It was realistic. As for M’benga’s daughter, Una gave him a separate power supply for that, that’s not tied into the ship’s systems. So it wouldn’t have been affected.
Yes, from my military experience the giggle felt very authentic.
Yeah I stopped watching when he downvoted that. It was perfect save for what he would have called him once he stopped giggling, and that would not be for TV, lol.
@@bradwoodard8289 From mine, Sean's observation of 'kinda dicks sometimes' also felt very accurate :P
Reptiles make a variety of vocalizations like clicking, chirping, and barks as well as hissing. Each has specific meanings. Clicking makes sense for the Gorn, an intelligent species, because they use a Morse code like system to communicate. Which can be encoded in clicks. The writers obviously did their research and were able to give the Gorn intelligent vocalizations beyond the played out Hollywood hissing sounds.
When you give your reasons for a down sometimes I agree, sometimes I don’t, but sometimes they are just uninformed like your down for the clicking.
I thought it was the best episode so far, and loved that it was clearly inspired by Balance of Terror and Disaster. SNW is easily the best of the current era of Trek shows.
also inspirised by Wrath of Khan in regards to having a tense submarine battle in a blinding equalizing cloud of whatever
Completely agree with your last statement, Nomen, would even go so far to say that it the best Star Trek that I have seen in many, many years! As far as best episode of SNW, for me, it has to be “Q&A” from Short Treks, which features Spock & Una, (“My name? It’s Number One!”) when Spock first arrives onboard the Enterprise (In case you haven’t seen it yet) If you haven’t seen it (or even if you have, I HIGHLY recommend it!)?
@@23hughmann Yep. I've seen Q&A and I loved it too. The part where they sang "Modern Major General" was absolutely brilliant. :D
and das boot
Being the best of the current Trek shows means it's the 6th best Star Trek series. I do not believe actors know how to act anymore. It's all about these magic 'quips' that are supposed to be humorous but almost always land with a massive thud. None more so than those by Uhura.
Four episodes deep, and SNW is rapidly becoming my favorite ST series, ever. ❤
I think you may have missed a fun moment with Spock! After Uhura told Pike they were ok, the camera focused on Spock and he let a smile creep onto his face, I assume out of relief or joy that they were safe! He allowed a little bit of his humanity bleed out, but he did so knowing no one would see it but the camera audience! I thought it was a great touch!
Well said.
Spock is not Spock. And the actor is not good. Why go to all the trouble of making this series if all they do is crap all over the original.
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Nice 1 Sez!
Agreed, feels so friendly and welcoming.
@seanferrick, I quite liked the way the security officer laughed at the other that jumped at the dog. As a former soldier it's probably something I would have done as soldiers use humour (usually quite twisted) to put themselves at ease in sometimes very dangerous situations. Also PTSD affects everyone very differently. I myself have never been diagnosed with it (although my wife is sure I suffer from it). I was involved in an incident 24 years ago as an 18 year old that at the time shocked me and I managed to block it out in my younger years but it now haunts me and I can see in my mind the aftermath of said incident as clear as if it was yesterday.
I completely agree: laughing at the things that terrify us is how most of us in the military get through the messed up things we've seen.
I suffered a bit of PTSD after what happened to me at age 13 being on a sinking ship. I got over it with a ride on the Woolwich ferry the next week. My Grandad a WW2 survivor since he could not join the army due to eye sight so had to fight on the home front in London. Which was just as dangerous. So if I could go on a ferry I was over the sinking and I must say I have no problems with ships now but I always listen to the Safety Briefing before putting to sea.
Also I have found things that should have hurt like falling over. If I am laughing when I fall on my arse it does not hurt if I don't laugh as I fall it hurts. So people find it weird I am falling and laughing.
@@hublanderuk when i burn myself(cook) i laugh every time i cant even say why . its not a fun or a funny situation, humans are pretty weird under certain conditions
I concur with your take on this.
Agreed, i felt the laugh made the scene more believable in my experience and opinion.
There's a moment that I loved from this episode. Ortegas says they are going to I think prepare to engage the enemy ship as it approaches and the Captain looks at La'an and gives them this look. La'an then tells Ortegas to relax. Pike didn't want to reprimand Ortegas for getting ahead of herself so he had La'an do it. So very well done. Great episode.
My issue is that how exactly was she going to 'engage them'? They had already established they had no weapons.
Ortega has no business being in Starfleet.
Big up for Ortegas. I like her banter with the captain. This week with “bombs away” and “dive, dive dive”… i think she plays the cocky pilot well. Yes she brings up the negatives like flying into the brown giant that the science expert says will crush the ship… but she is cocky enough to make those comments out loud to her captain…
And the captain probably appreciates it in a small way
I get Tom Paris vibes from the character for sure
Ortega deserves an up based on her banter and one liners
But does it without being subordinate or obnoxious or self righteous.
She has really grown on me in a way I didn't expect (and in which Tom Paris certainly never did).
I just love Strange New Worlds. I think Pike looking at the dead crew members must have him think of the crew members he'll save in the future.
Yes, I feel that those moments will become omnipresent, but not necessarily spelled out as the series continues.
Love the way this episode used the sound of the hull creaking, just like in movies where its used on a submarine as a point of high tension.
Keep up the grand work Sean!
This episode did definitely have a das boot feel to it
@@levismith8816 I totally agree with your “Das Boot” reference!
Totally!
There's also the "skipper" comment and "Dive, dive, dive"
@@levismith8816 It was 100% a submarine type battle, that much was clear. Honestly if we did have space battles between ships irl they'd mirror underwater submarines fighting each other.
I swear, every week it's a contest between Jess Bush and Celia Rose Gooding for MVP of Strange New Worlds. This whole cast is so, so good, but these two are just on another level.
I feel ortega isn’t that far behind..i love her quirky humor lol
@@cptkirk1978 She's probably my favorite in the show.
@@wearwolf2500 kind of reminds me of jadzia a bit
It's a really strong cast overall.
Peck saying sensors like Nimoy (“sense-oars”) was very appreciated by me.
I caught that, I never thought about it till that one episode of Lower Decks made fun of it.
*dramatic theatre voice
THAT! Is the mark... of an ACT-OAR! *raises clawed hand
Good catch.
Just when I think I can't enjoy this show more it impresses me. This episode directly went back to the original idea that space combat would more be like naval combat than anything else. The direct references, "Aye sir! Dive! Dive! Dive!" just had me grinning. Also GOD Anton is showing how awesome he is! His speeches are legit inspiring! Also his depiction of relief when Uhura responds was equal parts, "Thank GOD!" and "I needed that win". This is worth the $5 a month alone.
The writing is generic, at best. The effects are great. The acting is below average. I am glad I am not paying to watch this. But I did make a promise to watch this entire series. I already know there is a musical episode. I will watch that on an empty stomach.
Re: The mind meld: You mentioned that we usually see it as thoughts only flowing one way, but I can think of two big examples of mind melds that are more of the two-way street you describe. First Picard and Sarek in the TNG episode "Sarek," when Picard takes on Sarek's emotional burden and imparts some his stoicsm so the Ambassador can get through a difficult negotiation without breaking down. Then in the fantastic VOY episode "Meld," you have Tuvok and Suder, where each of them take on characteristics of the other.
The scoring for the memorial of those lost was beautiful
That clicking sounds was exactly like the sound made by the aliens in ST TNG Schisms. Really loved this episode. Strange New World is fast becoming the best of the new Star Treks
Anson Mount is playing Pike so well...his reaction when Uhura and Hemmer respond after the escape and explosion is marvelous! His humanity shines through as his Leadership. His moment and face while he is amongst his lost crew's caskets...Pike is becoming my Favorite Captain and I watched the original series when it was brand new!!!
It reminded me of "Balance of Terror" in a very good way with the tension of the battle. I'm loving the series so far.
random Ensign hides behind Uhura
Captain Pike "What are you doing?"
Ensign "Deploying plot armor, sir."
Seán, what is "thank you for putting up with me in general" supposed to mean, seeing you on screen is a delight as always!! You're one of my most favourite people on trek culture, along wit Marcus and Ellie. Thank you for your hard work!! Watching new episodes of Star Trek doesn't feel complete without watching your ups and downs afterwards!!
I recall while I was watching episode one, thinking, “Wait- is CHAPEL gonna be my favorite character?? CHAPEL???”
Four episodes in, and the answer is still yes. Yes she is.
Chapel gives me the same grin as Reno (Tig Notaro) in Discovery... I just love both of them
Sean - DS9 - The Defiant fought a battle in a Gas Giant dealing with so many of the same issues - how are you not referencing “Starship Down?” ❤️
I was thinking the same thing!
Oh, I think I got a reference you missed! When the cargo ship originally didn't respond to the hail, Pike ordered the ship to yellow alert and the shields up. Saavik would be proud!
This has been an amazing show. At this point I think I'm ok if they only use Canon as a guideline and not a law. Seriously, Uhura, Chapel, even Spock, and others are clearly being given opportunities to be more than TOS depicted them as. I'm ok with that. It would not be fair that such a competent officer such as Uhura gets stuck as a communication officer with no other relevance. Let this show grow organically with the characters
Felt like Balance of Terror, which is a pretty great thing. Classic submarine warfare stuff. Really liked it.
Remembrance day for the federation reminds me of memorial day which is this coming Monday for us here in the states. Great timing and great episode
I was going to make this point.
@@Gery1214 great minds think alike
Remembrance Day in the UK is AKA Armistice Day 11th November is the day to remember the fallen of our armed forces.
Remember, Kirk fought the Gorn captain. Perhaps there is more than one species of Gorn. Many hierarchies in nature and science fiction have workers, drones, soldiers etc.
Good good point💯💯💯
We have a planet with over 7,100 languages. To imagine one Gorn group clicks where another hisses isn’t even a stretch.
Idk if you’ve read the novels, but the second book in the typhon pact series (forget the actual title) established this. Books aren’t technically canon but it makes sense
When the Gorn communicate with each other, they use a clicking code (but is that the only communication possible?) and when the Gorn Captain is speaking to Kirk; #1 it's verbal and #2 it is being translated by the Metrons so that Kirk and the Gorn can understand one another.
Uhura was great. Her, "Get fine with it" reminded me of her later in life: "you wanted adventure, how's this? Got the old adrenaline going? Get in the closet!"
Actually, the clicking could be another vocalization from the Gorn, maybe it’s their “stealth” form of communication used while hunting.
Also, while running from Khan in the Mutara Nebula, Spock did have semi-partial sensors since he picked up a faint signal from Reliant turning under impulse, which gave him the idea that Khan was fighting 2-dimensionally in 3D space.
The Doctor's Daughter was provided an independent power supply as referenced in the episode in which we find out that Una isn't human... Which is another thing in which suggests that there must be some sort of adaptation in process for the blood transfer.
Also an adaption to transfuse through her shirt....
@@jamisonedwards8162 there were rips in her uniform, so we could give that a pass... But that's been an issue from TOS on when certain directors ignored injection issues. Some did well, but others "Just use their shoulder. Doesn't matter they have a uniform and/or armor on." Most noticeable when drawing blood to check for Changlings on DS9.
@@jamisonedwards8162
In the Star Trek tradition of never rolling up their sleeves to get a shot. Lol
This was such an intense episode! I'm really loving Strange New Worlds and it's probably my favorite Trek series of all the Paramount + shows
I have a big UP for the use of space in this whole series so far, the way they use the cgi and the choreographer, the fact that the ship is shown dodging and weaving in previous episodes, and then the brown dwarf and black hole visuals, mwa! **chef's kiss**
I love this series so far! Thanks for the content TrekCulture team!
Sean, it's called a mind 'meld'. There is no door that also works the other way, no 'could be both ways'. It's a fusion of two minds, becoming one. The Vulcan chant often recited in different variances says as much: 'Your thoughts to my thoughts. Our minds are merging, our minds are becoming one'. And when Tuvok melds with Suder (VOY ep: Meld) it is clear that both paries have access to the others mind. Picard melds with Sarek (TNG ep: Sarek) and they exchange parts of their personalities and emotions. Mind melds have always been both ways, but sometimes depicted as being one reading the mind of the other, I'll give you that. Still great episode, keep it going!
I honestly thought this was the best episode of Star Trek in YEARS!!! THIS is Trek!
I caught some TOS background music (from the Tholian Web and probably others) being played during this episode. That made me so happy. This series is really being lovingly done. And can I just say those little displays at the top of the bridge stations that call back to the TOS bridge displays really need their greens and blues back. Make it happen, guys.
There was one part that I was curious about. I couldn't help but notice Spock sweating. I don't know why this stood out for me. I was just remembering that T'Pol on Enterprise and Tuvok on Voyager both mentioned the conditions needed for Vulcans to sweat. So, I guess maybe the conditions were met with power down and no environmental systems working and that Spock is half human. I don't know. I just don't recall Spock sweating anywhere else. Also, did anyone catch Spock smile a little during the end scene when Pike thought that Hemmer and Uhura were killed, and Uhura called out, and Pike was relieved? They panned to Spock who did a little half-smile before turning away.
Spock is half-human so his tolerance for heat might be less
I agree. From what we know, Spock’s Vulcan traits are definitely dominant. Vulcan’s sun is so bad that they even developed a second eyelid to be protected, they must’ve be able to withstand much higher temperatures. I don’t mind Spock sweating, but they should at least showed the difference between Spock vs the human crew. As a matter of fact, Spock’s sweat is more prominent than La’an, which is very odd.
I saw that smile!
Those little smirks and smiles is something you see him do often in TOS at times. Along with the classic eyebrow raise.
@@GPsarakis Yup! I love it! He's doing such a good job channeling his inner Nimoy!
I am loving this series as being old enough to have watched the original as a girl. This hits all the right chords, and it is a real love letter to Gene Roddenberry and his vision for the show. Same trope setups but beautifully done.
Such a good breakdown, as always, Sean. I cannot express how impressed I am with Christina Chong, even though some of the La'an stuff didn't feel earned to me. Yet, Chong is absolutely brilliant. She is acting to the hilt and it's fantastic.
Anson Mount's acting was absolutely stellar in this episode. We all knew that they would be alive but the relief that hit Pike when he heard it hit me hard.
the fight in the brown dwarf also reminded me of the DS9 episode Starship Down.
I really liked the scene at the beginning where they spot the Gorn ship while the away team is on the planet. It all unfolds in seconds like it should. they see an unidentified ship, Captain says bring back the away team, and a second later, they report that the away team is on board. Thank you transporters. Too often in all of the series, this kind of thing is carried out with all of the leisure of a stroll in the park.
Forget the "Pike Maneuver", for all intents and purposes, this captain just effectively defeated the "Kobayashi Maru"!
Allow me to play the Vulcan Advocate…… Interesting
Now that you mention it, it kind of fits, though there's no gas planet or nebula near in the test for you to run and hide in. But point made, it was looking like your no win situation for sure.
Except the Kobayashi Maru is a no win scenario. Defeating it wouldn't be the point, even if it were possible. The idea is to test how a Starfleet officer handles a no win scenario. In other words, Starfleet wants to see how officers meet their death, because that shows if they have what it takes.
I think this is the best episode yet and I was surprised you didn’t give it a perfect score like you gave the first episode love your show
Yeah I guess I'm just not a big nitpicker but some of his downs are just ridiculous I thought this channel was less toxic and while it is more positive than most it's still the usual lets find flaws and try to pick every little detail apart which to me doesn't work I'm more about enjoying things than knocking them down.
He has a down quota to meet.
@@Lavadog11 Lol still the up vote should have been way higher. He seems like a cool guy but I think this is the the last video I'm watching this episode was amazing not sure what else he needs.
I've really been enjoying SNW. I also love Jess Bush. I feel like the relatively large cast has been so well balanced.
The whole series deserves an Up! Love it! Love it! Love it !!!!!
Memento Mori: Ingredients:
A heaping pile of “Balance of Terror”
A dash of “The Wrath of Khan”
A pinch of “Starship Down”
Mix and serve at room temperature.
Also mix in a healthy amount of “Disaster” and a pinch of “It’s Only a Paper Moon”
@@tanman99 Uhura and Hemmer are totally like Geordi and Beverly.
And also in The Expanse Drummer and Ashford, i love those kind of stories
Must include a drop of "Arena"
Slightly above room temperature. Remember, the environmental systems were being overwhelmed by the brown dwarf.
I remember waiting for the premier episode of TOS and how much I enjoyed each new episode. As much as I have enjoyed every enteration of Star Trek over the years it has never felt quite the same, until now.
About the latinum up: I love the part where the Gorn ship is in interception course and Pike orders to stay still, Ortegas then say "initiating evasive maneuvers" and La'An, as acting number one, puts her in place instead of Pike
After Pike gives La'an the look to do her job as acting number 1. Didn't even need to say anything, just a look.
@@GPsarakis Nice callback to the TNG ep where Picard & some aliens were captured n replaced to study command structures/hierarchy. Picard got the crew to capture them with a nod.
Cetacean Obs: The blind, injured engineer talking someone through a task is very reminiscent of TNG with LaForge and a Romulans "Commodore".
It's official...I got a crush on Captain Pike. 😂
yep
Same here 😂😂😂
Same. I mean, how could you not?
... are there even people who don't???
I LOVE this series so far. I love the stories in each episode, the development of individual characters, the camaraderie of the crew. I must also say that my husband has not been impressed with the latest Star Treks, but really likes the two episodes he’s seen so far.
Underlying theme of this episode was Memorial Day, I think. Perfect time for this time of year. A tragedy for those who became part of the memorial.... 😑
I thought about that too. I also wonder how far in advance the airing schedule is put together and if it was planned or just sort of a coincidence.
/Grabs your face
*REMEMBER!*
Uhura and Hemmer become my favorite duo on the show and quickly developed a father daughter vibe that was just precious ❤.
The Gorn do make clicking sounds along with their hisses. See the Star Trek: Enterprise for which they make an appearance
I thought the clicking might have also been how their claws sound when walking along the deck, or their scales rubbing. Either way, it isn't against canon.
We've also never really seen Gorn people communicating between each other. So perhaps clicking is their way as interpersonal communication.
LOVED Remembrance Day! Brilliant concept, thank you Trek. Also loved the teamwork and technobabble in this episode. This show feels like the Trek we've been waiting for, once again, thank you to everyone working on this show
It is a shame that we couldn’t see more of the remembrance pins. Seeing them in Chicago (where they were displayed) there were pins for the Europa, the Shenzhou, and for Discovery (which I assume Pike was wearing)
Hey hey guys!! LOVING these ups and downs, and absolutely LOVING SNW!! OK, so while watching, I noticed what I thought was a cetacean observation you guys might have missed: when the away team are walking through the remains of the colony and just as the camera shows the overhead shot of the blood smears, I'm 99.9% sure that the music cue was a snippet of James Horner's Khan Theme from Star Trek 2. It happens again when La'an is watching the Gorn ship appear through the window of the transport tube!! Something seems afoot....or I might just be going mad. Either way, keep up the sterling work!
With Pike this episode, I thought back to his concerns that he had in episode 1 about knowing the future and I kinda felt that they were taking place here. He was putting the Enterprise in a dangerous position, assured that it would hold. Granted it had to because they were dead either way but it still because he knew he was going to live past those events he took actions that, did save the ship but it is one that someone else might've not done.
I've been so happily surprised by the quality and sheer heart of this show!
Love how Pike has faith in the Enterprise in surviving the pressure of the brown dwarf and black hole, showing how Enterprise is also an heroic character in Star Trek!
Always.
Loved the original bridge computing sounds that were used for a few seconds
They throw in lots of those. Adds a homey touch. I also noticed a tricorder scanning sound effect in one scene.
I want to talk for a second about the sound design and music.
After watching Episode 4 "Memento Mori" I am convinced that the sound design and score teams have to be filled with massive fans.
I watch the show early in the morning and watch with noise canceling headphones, so I hear a lot of the nuances that go into the sound design.
The team has done an amazing job of bringing effects from all of Star Trek into the sound of SNW.
While I have heard sounds from all of the shows, they have intentionally made the effects from TOS to be the most prominent.
It really brings a sense of audio continuity to the show, it also helps with the immersion and is part of what makes SNW so familiar even though it's the first season.
On to the music, the quality of the score is film worthy in my opinion.
I am usually hyper critical of a show or movies score, as it can really make or break a story (see James Horner's score for Wrath of Khan).
The use of score elements from TOS as well as parts that evoke the Star Trek film lineage are incredibly on point.
Solid agree.
In fact one of my favorite bits from this episode was the half second flourish of music when La'an smirks at the destruction of the second Gorn ship.
It had to have been a tribute to Jame's Horner's _Surprise Attack_ from Wrath of Khan, just the tiniest hint of Khan's blaring trumpet leitmotif.
This was one of the greatest episodes of any television show ever. It was perfect in every which way. It was suspenseful, had great action, beautiful to look at, the acting was terrific. The story was awesome. It felt like we were watching a submarine battle take place (which was the point though)
Anson Mount is becoming my favorite captain. He knows his weaknesses, so he on has Spock tell him about his black holes and gas giants. But he still controls everything around him. I would follow this man everywhere.
Arent the hisses and growls made by the adults? Why would that mean their young would also make those noises instead of clicking, especially since she survived a gorn nursery planet full of their young?
Best Trek series in a long time and a great episode! I give it all UP'S!
I can't believe no one's mentioned Spock's smile at the end when he's turning back to his station. I honestly feel like that's a noteworthy moment.
My view on the Gorn clicking sound was an up. I thought, this is clever we are learning something new about the species. Maybe this is a sound they use in hunting parties for communication or even a kind of excited purring.
My down for the dog scene was a little different. My first thought was 'why don't Gorn eat dogs?' my second part to the down was the janky aluminum patio door with what looked like a key lock that the dog was behind.
Fantastic episode. Strange New Worlds has brought back a lot of the classic weekly excitement we all love from Trek. We are only four episodes in and I feel like we are really bonding with the crew. All led by Pike who makes a perfect Captain.
The dog had probably staid hidden until the initial assault stopped.
I found a lot to like about this episode. Some of my favourites:
- how they handled the exchange between Una and M'Benga as she wakes up. These two characters simply giving each other a smile spoke volumes without making a big deal out of it.
- Uhura is fast becoming one of my favourite characters. No disrespect to Nichelle Nichols, but Uhura in TOS was underused. In SNW the character is finally given the chance to shine.
- Anson Mount's performance was great, imho. Pike's leadership style really worked for me this episode and the tension and relief in that final scene on the bridge especially made me appreciate Mount's acting skills as he made it believable. To be honest, when he appeared in Discovery, I wasn't really sure about the character, even though I knew from canon that he was a good captain.
So far I'm really enjoying this series and its format. I am anticipating more to come!
I am loving the series so far, it is amazing. I loved this episode, I think everyone did an excellent job...but I believe it was Christina Chong who deserves the MVP award for this one.
Also, this situation is a classic submarine cat-and-mouse plot reminiscent of "Balance Of Terror" from TOS. The tension and pacing are perfectly executed. Thumbs up.
La'an was great in this. She is good in the number one spot. It feels right. Her character is becoming more likable to me. I love the bridge crew. Great episode
With this episode, Star Trek is back !!!!! This episode was the bomb, I loved it. It reminded me of how I felt watching Capt Kirk in my 20's..
IM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW I COULD JUST SPIT......THERE I SAID IT.
Please Star Trek, start writing that Gorn Movie now, we all know you can deliver a masterpiece.
if you did, you would make a old man happy one more time, Gods knows i love my Star Trek.
On the Gorn sounds, someone brought up the interesting point that the hissing and growling in _Arena_ could have just been an intimidation display, and the clicks described here are their actual means of communication. Which is some good worldbuilding. Personally, I think it's just that the production decided it would've been too silly to have this little girl growling and hissing at La'an. 😏 Also, if TNG Season 6's _Schisms_ taught us anything, it's that alien clicking sounds are creepy af. (That scene on the holodeck where they recreate their shared abduction experience gives me chills every damn time.)
I have a down of my own regarding the Gorn 'morse code' though... Why, why, WHY, is it in English? Like, I'd understand if La'an's brother worked out the meaning attached to certain patterns and THAT'S what was in his notes...but why would they have an entire morse code alphabet that is literally the English alphabet, and used to spell English words?
SNW is fast becoming my favorite Star Trek Series. The writing, performing, and direction has been close to perfect.
Nurse Chapel has study archeological medicine. She knows how to treat people without the advanced equipment. Loved it.
Shouldn't that be more historical medicine as opposed to archaeological? Unless there was some literal digging into the past of human medicine. You'd think manual first aid and field surgery would be covered at some of the medical schools.
I love the TARDIS and weeping angel on the shelf!
Absolutely loved this episode. For moments, I forgot this was set before TOS, and I was genuinely fearing for Uhura life.
I really thought when the young girl was clicking, it was going to be a reference to the aliens in TNG: Schisms. My mind didn't go, "Ohhh the Gorn".
I loved the sounds and rumbles, also the call to the sounds and rumbles of the hull pressure. It really felt like the ship, was a ship.
I was definitely remembering “DS9: Starship Down” in this episode when they’re in the brown dwarf. Not only with the ships looking for each other inside the gases but also with the radar on the view screen to monitor where the enemy ship is too.👏😀
Ever since Futurama, I giggle every time Spock uses the “Spock-o-scope” & he used it a lot in this episode.
I love their definition of pacifism. It involves defense.
I will say, I think this episode would have been better had I not known who had “plot armor” & who didn’t. It will be interesting to see how future generations react. This show feels like it will be like Star Wars where do you watch in production order or chronological order? Like with Wars I’ll probably be a production order purist, but I don’t have kids yet so who knows.
Spock looks Bender in the eye.
It was very funny to have La'an sent on a super dangerous mission only to have Spock say "actually I'll go too" and make sure they couldn't die.
Tbh I don’t really mind this. I’m relatively a newer generation (in my 20s). Back when I first watched the old treks, TOS etc. I always know the plot armour exists and always have the mindset the major characters won’t possibly die, at least until end of series. I had a few surprises along the way, but that’s mostly due to real life reason between actor/actress and production instead of in-universe reasons.
So, in essence it’s no different than knowing Spock and Uhura won’t possibly die because they were in TOS. Hell, Michael miraculously survived all that crap in Disco like a freaking god, why can’t someone.. say Hemmer survive a normal day on the Enterprise.
Honestly with how the writers handled the show, plot armor works to it advantage. As is the case with Chief Kyle - we know he'll survive but not his friend, it adds a sort off impending doom and tick to the episode, or when we see Una on the operating table and another semi-blink if you miss it in the background the communication officer (idk her name but the white eastern asian com officer) was lying on the operating room in the background. We know who'll live but we wont know who will die and the writers use the plot armor to their advantage by showing us how the plot armored characters will react and shape their future aspects.
There is so much unmined material in the Star Trek universe. You guys could do a series digging into the minutiae of every single episode and I'd watch it. Content for years. Good work on the channel. A+
La'An and Ortegas. Wow.
5:34 Seán.. I LOVE your Captains voice and posture from the "command chair" as it were... BRILLIANT! :) I'd serve under you ;) anytime.. anywhere!!
Bit unfair to give a down for the Gorn clicking but later say you're not about to pick apart canon...
I have to agree. And maybe the clicking is a thing Gorns do when they're deliberately trying to screw with prey to make them more panicked. Might not be anymore a natural sound then me whistling when messing with people when playing hide-and-go-seek.
@@andrew-johnbowman7480 isn't the clicking thing similar to the morse code they were using? A visual representation, per se?
@@andrew-johnbowman7480 I think clicking noises in general are just more unnerving than the other sounds. More menacing. I think about both the aliens in Signs and the subspace aliens in the TNG episode Schisms.
@@coltigh4232 Humans just get the heebie-jeebies when animals make clicking noises I guess
I like that this review is just in your house. Makes me feel like Im not doing so bad
All their torpedoes were destroyed when they got hit with shields down? That would have destroyed the ship. Dumb reason for them to only have 1 torpedo to fire.
I justify that be thinking they'd only blow up if they were armed.
@@kevboss1592 It's a matter/anti-matter reaction; they are literally always armed. When they say, "arm the torpedoes" they are referring to the photon launch system, not the torpedoes themselves. Not to mention that Enterprise has multiple torpedo bays, and its highly unlikely that they were all damaged to such an extent in a single attack.
I didn't really understand why the enterprise couldn't attack with phasers.
well, there is always the possibility that the antimatter is only added just before firing or more specifically when arming the torpedos how else would you be able to adjust the yield of a torpedo. and to make sure your ship won't end in a giant fireball if the torpedo magazine is hit.
Could be that they weren’t destroyed, but there was damage keeping the torpedoes from getting near the launchers
Gotta say there is much more reference to DS9 “Starship Down” in this episode than "Year of Hell" Over all I think it's the best yet. Loving all of them. BTW Sean, I loved you owning up to last week :)